So someone has given you something to use, for free. And you're saying that it's a problem because you don't want to return the favour? If you're going to be so selfish, then don't use it in the first place. Their condition for you to use it was that you help increase the amount of free software available in the world, and you're refusing to do that, and then blaming them because they want to do good, but you don't want to.
If you're going to do that, you might as well just go buy some proprietary libraries and use them and stay away from this whole free software world entirely, you don't really fit in at all.
Right, but since no one else can relicense your software and make a real project using it, it's only non-GPL'd software that's useful to working people. It's the non-GPL stuff that's more free in real usage.
Sorry, but that's stupid and wrong.
Where I work, we can only use free and open source software, preferably GPL. So by releasing your software as proprietary software, you're making it not useful to people like me who earn money by doing things with software.
It's just that if you give the software to someone else, you have to also pass on the same rights that you got with it. How is that possibly a bad thing? To do anything else is selfish and antisocial.
Last I heard (quite some years ago) the JVM didn't do it by default, as it was considered more important to keep stack traces intact. This might have changed now.
The Turing Test is a thought experiment. It's just saying "if you can talk to this, and can't tell if it's a person or a computer, then it doesn't matter: it's intellegent." It's not a method for a scientific, practical process. It's just something to think about when considering what might constitute intelligence.
I'm in the... 2nd or 3rd largest city in NZ (it changed a while ago, I think) and have 50Mb cable for NZ$75/mo (I think it's US75 to the NZ$1 at the moment, roughly.) I could pay $10 more and get 100Mb, but I actually don't have a need for that. This is all without the data cap that are still common here, but decreasingly so.
Now, I only have one provider I can use via that cable, and they're not terrible. However I also have DSL as an option, and by law the copper and infrastructure provider can't be in the telecoms retail business. As such, I have no idea how many ISPs I could chose from. Dozens maybe.
The country is also getting fibre put down all over (the central city here has had it for years now through another provider, but now it's coming to houses), but it'll be a fair while before it gets to my place, just due to location. But, 50Mb cable will keep me happy until then.
Really? How about you set your goalposts to be "whoever is stopping you getting the updates." Sometimes it's the carrier, sometimes it's the hardware provider, sometimes (if you're on a nexus) it's Google. Blaming the appropriate party isn't moving goalposts, it just not being stupid.
Because TI don't support some of the hardware in it, so they can't get new drivers for it. That hardware contract should have had more of a support length built into it.
I've used Uber a lot recently as it's just arrived here. The cars are either the same or better than taxis, the drivers tend to be friendlier, and they don't have loud music at all. My several anecdotes trump your one:)
In seriousness, that is what the rating system is for, to give passengers an avenue to pressure drivers to not be dirty, creepy, and annoying.
Yeah, I use it a lot too. Plenty of communities with interesting discussions going on. I don't get the "I had a bad day, sympathise with me" posts that I got sick of on facebook. Also, a lot of friends of mine use it, posting photos of what they've been doing on their travels, etc.
Bah. The argument was that there are security flaws that will be used as attacks if the code is on view of the public. It's the classic (meaningless) anti-open source argument. If the code was good then it wouldn't matter if it is viewed or not.
It's not a real argument, but I bet that opening it would expose many vulnerabilities. The code has never seen the outside world before, it's not hardened from experience like other engines.
This said, it's probably the most tested by exploit writers, so maybe it cancels out.
The batteries typically last for 6+ months at a time.
For the other two points, if you can't use a mouse, you have bigger problems than wired or wireless.
The main pro is that there is no cable to catch on the other crap that's on my desk. Also, I use the mouse left-handed, but usually games are set up with a right-handed configuration by default, so I just pick up the mouse and move it for those cases, without having to sort out a cable.
In a pinch, they double as a wireless presentation clicker too.
AIUI, the Monument Valley stats are incredibly badly done. For example, me buying it, installing it on my phone, tablet, upgrading my phone and installing it there, and so on would count as one purchase and multiple installs, and so a large inaccurate piracy rate.
I am aware that the Linux market is small, but it does have steadily accelerating support from vendors.
Personally, I won't buy it if it doesn't run on Linux (or android depending on the game), as it would be a waste of money. But I'm a fairly small demographic in that respect.
It has happened, there used to be a site called (something like) jailbreakme that would escape the safari sandbox and jailbreak your iphone. In this case, you had to press a button to confirm, but I think that was simply politeness. I'd bet there were malicious uses of it in the wild too.
Firefox on Android has got really good in the past year or so, I use it exclusively now. The only issue, and this rarely comes up, is that really heavy javascript sites can get sluggish.
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So someone has given you something to use, for free. And you're saying that it's a problem because you don't want to return the favour? If you're going to be so selfish, then don't use it in the first place. Their condition for you to use it was that you help increase the amount of free software available in the world, and you're refusing to do that, and then blaming them because they want to do good, but you don't want to.
If you're going to do that, you might as well just go buy some proprietary libraries and use them and stay away from this whole free software world entirely, you don't really fit in at all.
Right, but since no one else can relicense your software and make a real project using it, it's only non-GPL'd software that's useful to working people. It's the non-GPL stuff that's more free in real usage.
Sorry, but that's stupid and wrong.
Where I work, we can only use free and open source software, preferably GPL. So by releasing your software as proprietary software, you're making it not useful to people like me who earn money by doing things with software.
There's no forcing to give back anything.
It's just that if you give the software to someone else, you have to also pass on the same rights that you got with it. How is that possibly a bad thing? To do anything else is selfish and antisocial.
I make money of GPLv3 software.
What was your actual point?
Last I heard (quite some years ago) the JVM didn't do it by default, as it was considered more important to keep stack traces intact. This might have changed now.
The Turing Test is a thought experiment. It's just saying "if you can talk to this, and can't tell if it's a person or a computer, then it doesn't matter: it's intellegent." It's not a method for a scientific, practical process. It's just something to think about when considering what might constitute intelligence.
Wow, that sounds bad.
I'm in the ... 2nd or 3rd largest city in NZ (it changed a while ago, I think) and have 50Mb cable for NZ$75/mo (I think it's US75 to the NZ$1 at the moment, roughly.) I could pay $10 more and get 100Mb, but I actually don't have a need for that. This is all without the data cap that are still common here, but decreasingly so.
Now, I only have one provider I can use via that cable, and they're not terrible. However I also have DSL as an option, and by law the copper and infrastructure provider can't be in the telecoms retail business. As such, I have no idea how many ISPs I could chose from. Dozens maybe.
The country is also getting fibre put down all over (the central city here has had it for years now through another provider, but now it's coming to houses), but it'll be a fair while before it gets to my place, just due to location. But, 50Mb cable will keep me happy until then.
People aren't perfect all the time, all it takes is one slip-up.
Really? How about you set your goalposts to be "whoever is stopping you getting the updates." Sometimes it's the carrier, sometimes it's the hardware provider, sometimes (if you're on a nexus) it's Google. Blaming the appropriate party isn't moving goalposts, it just not being stupid.
Because TI don't support some of the hardware in it, so they can't get new drivers for it. That hardware contract should have had more of a support length built into it.
It is the hardware provider in much of the world. If you have shitty carriers, blame the shitty carriers. Otherwise, blame the hardware providers.
I've used Uber a lot recently as it's just arrived here. The cars are either the same or better than taxis, the drivers tend to be friendlier, and they don't have loud music at all. My several anecdotes trump your one :)
In seriousness, that is what the rating system is for, to give passengers an avenue to pressure drivers to not be dirty, creepy, and annoying.
Yeah, I use it a lot too. Plenty of communities with interesting discussions going on. I don't get the "I had a bad day, sympathise with me" posts that I got sick of on facebook. Also, a lot of friends of mine use it, posting photos of what they've been doing on their travels, etc.
Bah. The argument was that there are security flaws that will be used as attacks if the code is on view of the public. It's the classic (meaningless) anti-open source argument. If the code was good then it wouldn't matter if it is viewed or not.
It's not a real argument, but I bet that opening it would expose many vulnerabilities. The code has never seen the outside world before, it's not hardened from experience like other engines.
This said, it's probably the most tested by exploit writers, so maybe it cancels out.
The batteries typically last for 6+ months at a time.
For the other two points, if you can't use a mouse, you have bigger problems than wired or wireless.
The main pro is that there is no cable to catch on the other crap that's on my desk. Also, I use the mouse left-handed, but usually games are set up with a right-handed configuration by default, so I just pick up the mouse and move it for those cases, without having to sort out a cable.
In a pinch, they double as a wireless presentation clicker too.
If it's any consolation, my stats for Civ 5 count towards linux :) Also the X-COM game that I'm terrible at...
You're changing your point.
> and you Linux guys are all about the free?
Demonstrably not true.
AIUI, the Monument Valley stats are incredibly badly done. For example, me buying it, installing it on my phone, tablet, upgrading my phone and installing it there, and so on would count as one purchase and multiple installs, and so a large inaccurate piracy rate.
I am aware that the Linux market is small, but it does have steadily accelerating support from vendors.
Personally, I won't buy it if it doesn't run on Linux (or android depending on the game), as it would be a waste of money. But I'm a fairly small demographic in that respect.
Humble Bundle per-platform stats would disagree. Linux users tend to pay the most, followed by OSX users, with Windows users in the rear.
No Linux support? What is this? 2014?
It has happened, there used to be a site called (something like) jailbreakme that would escape the safari sandbox and jailbreak your iphone. In this case, you had to press a button to confirm, but I think that was simply politeness. I'd bet there were malicious uses of it in the wild too.
I guess everyone forgets about the internet archive sometimes:
http://web.archive.org/web/201...
That won't solve everything. What happens if it explodes on the launchpad, or shoots off in the wrong direction?
Firefox on Android has got really good in the past year or so, I use it exclusively now. The only issue, and this rarely comes up, is that really heavy javascript sites can get sluggish.
As will the people who it risks landing on if it doesn't escape orbit for some reason.