I come at it from the opposite direction: I'm no fan of LulzSec, but Sony deserves to have its toenails removed for being so bloody sloppy about security.
Dead right, I don't know how you got modded down.
This was a SQL injection attack. Sony didn't follow that little rule about validating user input and should have known better. I'm not saying they deserved it because they didn't, but I'm saying it was bound to happen sooner or later.
I'm no fan of Sony but I hope this guy is banged up for a long time for stealing all that private data. And before any wannabe heros mod me down you might want to consider that YOUR data could be part of it.
Well that's the thing. If he is proved guilty in a fair trail he should be punished but isn't 15 years too long?
He didn't kill anyone, he didn't physically hurt anyone, nor did he do anything terribly bad with that data. All he did was embarrass a company that should have been taking better care of the data. Sony was going to leak all that data anyway if they hadn't already.
You think paying taxes for civil servants and police is thieving?
I never said that, nor do I believe it. My point was that just because the government takes our money under threat of force doesn't mean we get to tell them what to do with it. The government serves themselves first and the rest of the population second. That's all political parties in all countries by the way.
If that meant "we" owned the infrastructure, not the media companies. One requirement would HAVE to be net neutrality.
I'm happy to pay income tax. One requirement is that the police and all other civil servants are polite and respectful to me whenever I deal with them..
Oh, we are not in happy dream land? Guess I don't get to make demands on the thieving government then.
Are you saying it takes 3000 Windows servers to do the work of 1 Unix server? Although Windows sucks it's not that bad. Or are you saying the same number of people could support 30000 Windows servers or 1 Unix server? That makes even less sense.
In fact. Linux is plenty vulnerable to a targeted attack.
That's nonsense. Although Linux is far from perfect windows is hacked together and goes though major changes every few years. I've seen cascade windows failures on huge scales and can tell you that incidents like this one are really fairly common. Multinationals put one hell of a lot of effort into covering these things up because it looks bad on the company. Don't take my word for it, find a windows administrator for any multinational and talk to them.
But like I said twice before they should have split the network into compartments regardless of what OS they use, at the very least it will slow crap down and most likely it will stop crap dead in its tracks.
And if the company used all Linux workstations, they would have coded up something that ran on that.
Maybe but if you start with a good design it's harder to abuse. Don't try to tell me windows which has a radical redesign every few years is anywhere near as solid as unix.
But the lack of network segregation was a major factor in this.
It's been the same for many years, you use windows it's just a matter of time. Most companies cover up these incidents for the good of the share price.
Having said this company appears to have one big armadillo network that was wide open to this attack. They want to get some decent IT people in and let them do their jobs.
What "Microsoft tax"? The manufacturer recoups the Windows license cost entirely by bundling pre-installed bullshitware, which gets removed at the same time as Windows when you wipe the hard disk and install Linux.
Is that really the case?
Microsoft still gets money from the bullshitware vendors in that case, I don't want Microsoft making anything out of me although I'm happy to see the crapware vendors lose money.
I do exactly that already but you try building a laptop that way.
And it's really not reasonable to expect every computer user who wants to use ubuntu instead of windows to build their own computer from parts, most people want off the shelf with no decisions they can't understand.
Or they could hemorage Ballmer out their ass. He's like the worst case of rectal bleeding MS could have.
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They need to send in a stainless steel probe and pull him out.
Why? M$ are never going to be a good influence and their time is over anyway. Ballmer will run the company to death and the open source world will be better off because of it.
Knowing about how Australia likes to regulate home electrical work and even plumbing (I'm talking water, not gas here)..
That's not as nuts as it sounds. Large parts of Australia have a very limited amount of water to pump and losing any from leaks is a senseless waste of a vital resource. Sure the householder gets the bill for the excess water usage and maybe a fine too but that doesn't help the rest of the street who don't get anything to drink for the next few months.
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I come at it from the opposite direction: I'm no fan of LulzSec, but Sony deserves to have its toenails removed for being so bloody sloppy about security.
Dead right, I don't know how you got modded down.
This was a SQL injection attack. Sony didn't follow that little rule about validating user input and should have known better. I'm not saying they deserved it because they didn't, but I'm saying it was bound to happen sooner or later.
I'm no fan of Sony but I hope this guy is banged up for a long time for stealing all that private data. And before any wannabe heros mod me down you might want to consider that YOUR data could be part of it.
Well that's the thing. If he is proved guilty in a fair trail he should be punished but isn't 15 years too long?
He didn't kill anyone, he didn't physically hurt anyone, nor did he do anything terribly bad with that data. All he did was embarrass a company that should have been taking better care of the data. Sony was going to leak all that data anyway if they hadn't already.
US traffic injuries and fatalities will increase sharply in 2016, and again in 2025.
Not in 2025.. The oil would have run out by then.
This adds to the requirement that 2016's new cars must average 35.5 miles per gallon.
I hope they mean AT LEAST 35.5 miles per gallon, or my 60 miles per gallon super-car is doomed..
You think paying taxes for civil servants and police is thieving?
I never said that, nor do I believe it. My point was that just because the government takes our money under threat of force doesn't mean we get to tell them what to do with it. The government serves themselves first and the rest of the population second. That's all political parties in all countries by the way.
If that meant "we" owned the infrastructure, not the media companies. One requirement would HAVE to be net neutrality.
I'm happy to pay income tax. One requirement is that the police and all other civil servants are polite and respectful to me whenever I deal with them..
Oh, we are not in happy dream land? Guess I don't get to make demands on the thieving government then.
Things I'd support the money being put into:
You misunderstand, this is a tax.
That means the government takes the money and keeps it. You don't get to make a list of things you will get in return.
Time Warner Cable CEO Glenn Britt earned a $16.4 Million salary last year.
I fail to see any innovation from my Internet provider.
He got paid 16.4 Million. I doubt he _earned_ that much money for any normal definition of the word.
Whats 30000 Windows in Unix server skill terms?
Like 1 server?
That doesn't even make sense.
Are you saying it takes 3000 Windows servers to do the work of 1 Unix server? Although Windows sucks it's not that bad.
Or are you saying the same number of people could support 30000 Windows servers or 1 Unix server? That makes even less sense.
In fact. Linux is plenty vulnerable to a targeted attack.
That's nonsense. Although Linux is far from perfect windows is hacked together and goes though major changes every few years. I've seen cascade windows failures on huge scales and can tell you that incidents like this one are really fairly common. Multinationals put one hell of a lot of effort into covering these things up because it looks bad on the company. Don't take my word for it, find a windows administrator for any multinational and talk to them.
But like I said twice before they should have split the network into compartments regardless of what OS they use, at the very least it will slow crap down and most likely it will stop crap dead in its tracks.
And if the company used all Linux workstations, they would have coded up something that ran on that.
Maybe but if you start with a good design it's harder to abuse. Don't try to tell me windows which has a radical redesign every few years is anywhere near as solid as unix.
But the lack of network segregation was a major factor in this.
It's been the same for many years, you use windows it's just a matter of time. Most companies cover up these incidents for the good of the share price.
Having said this company appears to have one big armadillo network that was wide open to this attack. They want to get some decent IT people in and let them do their jobs.
But even if you use those opt outs on your new computer you still pay the Microsoft tax.
I know a way around that...
Come off it. I don't want to pay 100 USD to Microsoft so you think I want to pay a whole lot more to Apple?
I've noticed that Acer is pretty good about service in general. But then again, maybe Dell has lowered my expectations too much.
They better be efficient with servicing, everything I've ever brought from Acer fell apart or stopped working within in year.
What "Microsoft tax"? The manufacturer recoups the Windows license cost entirely by bundling pre-installed bullshitware, which gets removed at the same time as Windows when you wipe the hard disk and install Linux.
Is that really the case?
Microsoft still gets money from the bullshitware vendors in that case, I don't want Microsoft making anything out of me although I'm happy to see the crapware vendors lose money.
I do exactly that already but you try building a laptop that way.
And it's really not reasonable to expect every computer user who wants to use ubuntu instead of windows to build their own computer from parts, most people want off the shelf with no decisions they can't understand.
Just firewall it off.
What's such software worth if you have to explicitly firewall parts of it from doing stupid things.
Actually heavy firewalling Windows is necessary to keep it secure. Necessary but sadly not sufficient.
Just firewall it off.
That's not reliable when MS can change the source port and the destination IP and port or bundle it in the update process in some messy way.
Yes, when you configure your privacy settings on first run you can turn it off.
Most people won't know how to do that, what setting to change, or what effect it will have.
Does Windows 8 have an opt-out feature?
Yes, they do.
But even if you use those opt outs on your new computer you still pay the Microsoft tax.
The final choice would have been made by soulless M$ drones, not Pentagram.
You try doing good work while a monkey in a suit throws chairs at you.
Yellow is for the frosty piss you would rather drink than use Microsoft products.
Or they could hemorage Ballmer out their ass. He's like the worst case of rectal bleeding MS could have.
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They need to send in a stainless steel probe and pull him out.
Why? M$ are never going to be a good influence and their time is over anyway. Ballmer will run the company to death and the open source world will be better off because of it.
There are some very successful con-men selling crappy logos to companies.
Knowing about how Australia likes to regulate home electrical work and even plumbing (I'm talking water, not gas here)..
That's not as nuts as it sounds. Large parts of Australia have a very limited amount of water to pump and losing any from leaks is a senseless waste of a vital resource. Sure the householder gets the bill for the excess water usage and maybe a fine too but that doesn't help the rest of the street who don't get anything to drink for the next few months.