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Microsoft Unveils First New Company Logo In 25 Years

Barence writes "For the first time in 25 years, Microsoft has issued a new company logo to usher in the Windows 8 era. Made up of a newly square Windows symbol alongside grey Microsoft logo type, it's been designed to closely match the logos for other products in Microsoft's portfolio, including Office and Xbox. The logo takes pride of place on Microsoft.com from today, and will be used in Microsoft's retail stores and on all future TV ads."

378 comments

  1. poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    there is no dollar sign in there.

    1. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh god who gives a crap about a new logo!

    2. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well I would think AVG would since it is ripping them off. Same colors, same square design, just placed in different corners. http://aa-download.avg.com/filedir/promo/press/press_logo_avg.png

    3. Re:poor by jhoegl · · Score: 4, Informative

      It does seem pretty lazy. I mean I could put 4 squares in front of a 4 year old and get better results.

    4. Re:poor by xevioso · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One of the interesting things about this is the amount of money spent to create this logo. It probably runs into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Internally, they probably went through multiple design revisions, followed by multiple meetings on how the logo should look and what the brand "evokes", followed by multiple meetings at the very top of the company to confirm these findings. And that's if it was done internally; if they hired an agency to do this it could easily have cost them millions.

      All for something I could have done with Powerpoint.

    5. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One might say AVG did the ripping off of colours some years ago.

    6. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're implying that the GP was implying that AVG ripped off Microsoft, then you suck at reading.

    7. Re:poor by sapgau · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or done in Paint.

    8. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      I was expecting an umbrella

    9. Re:poor by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Good simple logos are hard to do. Look at FedEx. That needed an all new font just to get the subtle symbolism.

      And simple is the right direction. If you look at art or old magazines, the designs of illustrations go from a type of baroque, all curvy and overdetailed to ever more simplified.

      The problem with the new logo isn't that it's simple, it's that it's generic. The four colors always were. Google and eBay has similiar colors by now (although they incorporate it into the name itself). I think Microsft has the most generic logo out there for a major corporation and without the "Microsoft" next to it, most people wouldn't be able to place it -- unlike, say, a Mercedes Star or some such.

    10. Re:poor by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good simple logos are hard to do.

      Bad simple logos are easy to do. Like this one. Or do you see something good about it?

      Once again, major props to Steve Ballmer for keeping that impressively steady hand on the tiller, straight towards the rocks.

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    11. Re:poor by arth1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      My thoughts go to Ludo, which also uses less vibrant versions of RGBY, just like Microsoft does.

      But what I thought the most funny was how the logo doesn't work well with jpeg. Look at the two version of the logo on the pcpro page linked to, and there's horribly visible jpeg artifacts on the logo. This is a well-known problem when trying to use right angles between differently colored fields.
      Of course, png would work better, but so many web sites still use jpg even for logos that Microsoft might face a small problem here.

    12. Re:poor by Jeng · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All for something I could have done with Powerpoint.

      Piece of chalk $0.05
      Knowing where to make the mark $5000

      The tools used does not determine the difficulty of the project.

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    13. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, there was a glitch in the organization: developers ended up designing the logo and designers ended up developing Windows 8.

    14. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh the FedEx logo is not for simplicity, it's a graphical depiction of the company name forming a right-pointing arrow. The arrow is the white spacing inside of the "Ex".

    15. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Microsft has the most generic logo out there for a major corporation and without the "Microsoft" next to it, most people wouldn't be able to place it -- unlike, say, a Mercedes Star or some such.

      You say that, but I've been watching season three episodes of "The Mentalist" and every episode features views of bright white windows logos on the fronts and backs of the agents' monitors. Apparently someone thinks the shape is recognizable.

    16. Re:poor by ozmanjusri · · Score: 0

      You've just described the development process for Windows 8, just with more squares.

      And if you think I'm kidding, read this.

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    17. Re:poor by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      The old 'flying windows' sort of logo, which was stupid, was much more identifiable with Microsoft.

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    18. Re:poor by schlpbch · · Score: 1

      The FedEx logo is made from the classical Helvetica with some extreme between "E" and "x".

    19. Re:poor by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      Come now, doing even something as simple as this "logo" in Paint is far too self-abusive. It would probably take half an hour just to get the squares equal.

      Also, I'm curious how this would look to a colorblind person. At least before, the design was distinctive. Now it's like looking at stoplights.

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    20. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talk about sucking at reading...

    21. Re:poor by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 1

      there is no dollar sign in there.

      And they forgot to remove Mondrian's copyright from the EXIF data.

    22. Re:poor by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. I'm sure they spent much more than that on Windows 8, and look what that looks like. It's not much more complex than the logo.

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    23. Re:poor by anomaly256 · · Score: 1

      I actually thought this was the case when I looked at the Windows 8 controls and window elements - that they were designed by devs drawing them programmatically, and Microsoft had fired the entire design group to shave costs. Then I installed Visual Studio 2012 to check it out and realized it was designed by/for anything but devs and suspected they just swapped teams in some abhorrent experiment gone wrong.

    24. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't you just trace around the bodies? how hard can that be?

    25. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean your 4 year old kid could do a better job drawing 4 squares?

      Well, at least they made very good use of their Paint application! Who needs Illustrator or Photoshop!

    26. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Powerpoint?! Isn't that a bit of a overkill.
      Since Windows 3.0 there is the Paint application which should be more than sufficient to design these kind of logos.

    27. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or done on an Atari 2600 - the blocky letters would have been more apt.

    28. Re:poor by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      Once had a guy at work do an entire engine system schematic for the E-2C in Paint because the project manager was too cheap to buy an Autocad seat. It was very impressive, but took four times as long to complete, and was a bitch to edit.

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    29. Re:poor by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Some image consulting marketing company probably made a few million off of this one.

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    30. Re:poor by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1
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    31. Re:poor by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      Paint.net is to Paint what VB.Net is to VB. Only with less downside.

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    32. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is clean and simple though. While it won't blow people away, it doesn't need to. There's nothing wrong with it, and the way the f and t join subtly add style without degrading smoothness or readability. (a four year old wouldn't have done that) Having right angles, the four squares won't have anti-aliasing issues, and the solid colors won't invite artifacts or use more than a minimum amount of memory. I thought the poor anti-aliasing seen at startup with older versions of Windows immediately screamed of crudeness. Little things matter.

      This logo is simple, clean and efficient. I give it a thumbs up. Hopefully clean and simple will be seen in other areas too. Speed and usability would likely improve if that's the mindset.

    33. Re:poor by humanrev · · Score: 1

      I admit that after spending about 30 seconds staring at all the FedEx logos I could find on Google Images, it took your post before I realized what I was supposed to be seeing. :)

      Then again I don't live in the US so I'm not used to seeing the logo anyway, and as such any subliminal symbolism was probably going to take longer to notice

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    34. Re:poor by drkstr1 · · Score: 1

      You should try eclipse, it's really a great IDE these days. There are plugins (centrally managed repo) for just about any language or platform imaginable. The greatest part is how customizable it is. Disclaimer: I'm a fanboy.

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    35. Re:poor by anomaly256 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't particularly care for eclipse. I mean it's ok, it does it's job and I have no particular gripe with (although I find that when I go to install some domain specific SDK with eclipse integration it's a nightmare to find the right versions of the right plugins it expects..) I'm just not a fan of IDEs in general really. When I do C# work however I find VS2010's object browser, intellisense documentation, and winforms designer pays off (mainly because I'm not as familiar with it as other langs/APIs). VS2012 on the other hand.. ugh. I'd rather use acme on rio and plan9. Looks about the same as that anyway! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Acme.png

    36. Re:poor by DThorne · · Score: 1

      You know, it's a little disappointing to see the snide comments suffixed with variations of 'my 8 year old could have done that'. It just shows an ignorance of the design process, which has nothing to do with the simplicity or complexity of the final result. I'm not a big fan of the final result - there's nothing wrong with expressing a love or hate for the direction - but please don't belittle the difficulty of the challenge of taking a very old, established identity and updating it after a quarter century of imprinting itself on the public consciousness. It's hard work. Not only do you have to distill numerous directions from the client and please yourself, but I can imagine navigating the labyrinth of MS approvals must have been a nightmare.

      I think that compared to the complete misfire that is Win8, the new logo is a blinding success.

    37. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have done it in Inkscape. Five minutes, three of them spent choosing "Myriad Apple" as the font.

    38. Re:poor by dontclapthrowmoney · · Score: 1

      This is a well-known problem when trying to use right angles

      Surely you aren't suggesting that they should have used...gasp! rounded corners?

    39. Re:poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or done in Paint.

      Or, better yet, GIMP under Debian.

    40. Re:poor by R3d+Jack · · Score: 1

      LOL!

  2. Looks like Metro tiles by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next best thing to putting Clippy in there, I guess.

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    1. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by overmoderated · · Score: 5, Funny

      Paint is such a nice program.

    2. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by fm6 · · Score: 1

      You're right, and it's obviously not a coincidence. I for one, welcome our new Metro Overlords!

    3. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      MS Paint is indeed a nice program, but I have some harsh words for the person who thought that giving the canvas a drop shadow was a good idea.

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    4. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Vanderhoth · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're right, and it's obviously not a coincidence. I for one, welcome our new Windows 8 Style UI Overlords!

      FTFY

    5. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by infodragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      “People liked NASCAR because the constant crashes made it exciting, and this gave me an idea...”
                  -- Bill Gates on Microsoft Windows

      Another brilliant idea, change the look of your brand as the exciting crash of the company begins.

      For those of you not able to tell, this is my terrible attempt at humor.

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    6. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My local telecom came out with new branding with pastel colors and sharp squarish logos right before it was sold off.

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    7. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Next best thing to putting Clippy in there, I guess.

      "No, wait, this one goes to the mouth..."
      - some Win8 UX designer who thinks Win8 is an upgrayedd.

      (Personally, I'm not sure.)

    8. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by infodragon · · Score: 1

      M$ has too much cash on hand to be sold off. They'd have to hemorrhage quite a bit before they could be bought out. Either that or they could get rid of Ballmer!

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    9. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They had to change because Apply has the property rights for round corners...

    10. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      LMAO more proof of how prophetic Idiocracy was! XD

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    11. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Either that or they could get rid of Ballmer!

      Hey, shut up! Don't give them any ideas! I'm personally enjoying watching this trainwreck unfold.

    12. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a scary fact: Apple's cash reserves amount to almost half the market valuation of Microsoft.

    13. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, to me, it looks like the OS/company/logo version of Simple Jack.

      Microsoft, you just went full retard.

    14. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paint got ribboned as of Windows 7, so it isn't as usable.

    15. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "People liked NASCAR because the constant crashes made it exciting, and this gave me an idea..."
                              -- Bill Gates on Microsoft Windows

      "You Can't Believe Most of the Quotes You Read On the Internet"
                  -- Abraham Lincoln

    16. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This guy would agree with you ;-)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2sPl_Z7ZU
      How to paint the MONA LISA with MS PAINT

      The artist also "draws" with Cheetos ... no joke. He is *good*
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IoqpXQ_dpA

    17. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      Actually this is clippy 2.0 . How can you tell? The logo wasn't even changed.

      Check out our new logo! astonishingly similar to our old logo! but it's new!

      *waves hands*
      these are not the logos you are looking for

    18. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by omnichad · · Score: 4, Funny

      I prefer "The UI formerly known as Metro"

    19. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LMAO more proof of how prophetic Idiocracy was! XD

      Pot, kettle.

    20. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Surak_Prime · · Score: 2

      Hey, maybe they could bring back Clippy in their new line of phone OS software, as their answer to Siri!

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    21. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by wukka · · Score: 1

      Metro ^Sexual^ Overlords

    22. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by jd2112 · · Score: 0

      Microsoft innovation at work:

      Windows phone user: "Clippy, call me an ambulance! "
      Clippy: "Ok, you are an ambulace."

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    23. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Silly idea. As far as I can tell, nobody at Microsoft knows how any sense of fashion,.

    24. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Wake me up when they get their own symbol that has no name or pronunciation. :)

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    25. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Most of us don't think that subways are all that sexual.

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    26. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So what, is your joke that they copied Apple? Because before it was fixed, Siri did exactly this if you asked it to call you an ambulance.

    27. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by wukka · · Score: 1

      heyoh!

    28. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      So does M$ now stand for Metro $exual?

    29. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I'll be here all week. Enjoy the veal. Don't forget to tip your waitress.

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    30. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Good point.

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    31. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by GonzoPhysicist · · Score: 1

      hmmm, so Apple has round corners and MS is all sharp corners now, looks like I should get a design patent on bevels.

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    32. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Did they ever get a new name for that? It was supposed to be renamed weeks ago, as I recall.

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    33. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I usually leave the "user" part out and call it "The Interface Formerly Known As Metro" or "TIFKAM". God knows Microsoft left the user out when they put it together.

    34. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

      It's pronounced "tit".

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    35. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They're using the term Modern UI as kind of an interim name.

    36. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      Maybe that's the secret to this. MS paid the advertising firm to come up with a new logo, with the stipulation that it be created using only MS tools. With that in mind maybe this doesn't look so bad.

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    37. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      They don't have to hemorrhage. If their price drops, they could be bought up and asset stripped.

    38. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Richy_T · · Score: 2

      I thought hipsters don't carry cash.

    39. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      "640 crashes a week ottah be enough for anybody."
                    --Bill Gates on MS Windows

    40. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note to the gullible: you can tell the Lincoln quote is false because, even though largely self-educated, Lincoln knew to only capitalize the first letter of a sentence. And, of course, the "I" in "Internet."

    41. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Abraham Lincoln is Well Over a Century Ahead of His Time"
                        -- Christopher Columbus

    42. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      Actually, Clippy would call an ambulance after taking the users complete medical history and description of the injury in minute detail.

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    43. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      Didn't anyone in their focus groups point out how quaint the word 'modern' sounds?

      They should also rename Windows 8 to Windows 8000. Then it'd all make sense.

    44. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He painted the Mona Lisa by hand?!? Why, when he could've just downloaded it?

    45. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Or they could hemorage Ballmer out their ass. He's like the worst case of rectal bleeding MS could have. They need to send in a stainless steel probe and pull him out.

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    46. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Or they could hemorage Ballmer out their ass. He's like the worst case of rectal bleeding MS could have.

      True

      They need to send in a stainless steel probe and pull him out.

      Why? M$ are never going to be a good influence and their time is over anyway. Ballmer will run the company to death and the open source world will be better off because of it.

    47. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by tolkienfan · · Score: 1

      Brilliant!

    48. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by tolkienfan · · Score: 1

      I'm going to steal that.

    49. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by R3d+Jack · · Score: 1

      Another LOL!

    50. Re:Looks like Metro tiles by R3d+Jack · · Score: 1

      LOL! #3

  3. Launched? Unveiled? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty sure I've already seen this exact logo out in front of their Microsoft Store at University Village for quite some time now (maybe a year?).

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    1. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      I've seen this logo everywhere

      (Browsing with Noscript gives a nice white, blank box).

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    2. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      That's not the logo. This is. You can see it clearly just a few lines below (and yes, I'm using noscript myself)

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    3. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      That was my reaction as well. This is the logo used at the store since it opened last year. Now its just the official logo and will show up more and more as they update their various products.

    4. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by Lord+Lode · · Score: 1

      Hmm, the rightmost t touches the right side, that is a bit ugly, there should be some padding on the right imho

    5. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by kiwimate · · Score: 2

      According to the Microsoft blog (which wasn't linked in the PC Pro article), you're correct.

    6. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by nschubach · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Damn, there's some awful optical illusions going on there... Gray dot in the middle, faint lines of off colors equidistant from the white separator bars in each of the color boxes.

      Maybe it's just the poor quality of JPG?

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    7. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by omnichad · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's definitely overcompressed.

    8. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by dalleboy · · Score: 2

      Too bad even Microsoft cannot keep the colors in sync on their own homepage.

      Of the four logos on the first page, plus the "official print" (in jpeg, mind you) logo, each of them used different colors. The green was most apparent (of course) and it is easy to see the difference between the images, but even the other colors differ.

    9. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by matrim99 · · Score: 2

      The original Microsoft logo had the 'f' and 't' touching as well; this is a design decision for nostalgic purposes.

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    10. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

      That's a standard typographic convention. It's called a ligature. Most desktop publishing apps will even connect those letters; word certainly does it. It would look worse if they forced a space in there. And, it was present in the previous logo.

      Logotypes don't always look right when blown up on screen, especially when subject to bad compression. I think the font looks great, someone obviously spent the time getting the logotype right.

    11. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      to reflect how S. Ballmer must be feeling with all the pressure.

    12. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

      Cum on your monitor, maybe?

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    13. Re:Launched? Unveiled? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gray dot in the middle...Maybe it's just the poor quality of JPG?

      No, that's the Hermann Grid illusion: http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/lum_herGrid/index.html

  4. Stop laughing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The designer must of taken a whole lunch break to create it.

    1. Re:Stop laughing by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Probably had to eat with only one hand too.

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    2. Re:Stop laughing by tiberus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The designer must of taken a whole lunch break to create it.

      Mayhaps but, you know it went something like..

      Hey we need a new logo
      Send out the RFP
      Receive hundreds if not thousand of submissions, most of them decidedly silly
      Spend hours upon days upon weeks of LSERs (Logo Submission Evaluation Reviews) to narrow the field
      Toss that into the pot and go with an Execs 5yo did in crayon

    3. Re:Stop laughing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      have. It's "must HAVE". "of" makes no sense.

    4. Re:Stop laughing by Jeng · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is Microsoft you are talking about here.

      This was designed by multiple committees each of which would only support their own design.

      After 3 months of deliberations Balmer sat in on a committee meeting and determined the winner by lining up the different executives that ran each committee and then started throwing chairs at them. The last one standing won.

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    5. Re:Stop laughing by mooingyak · · Score: 4, Funny

      have. It's "must HAVE". "of" makes no sense.

      The best response of that nature that I've seen read something like "Do you of any idea how annoying that is?"

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    6. Re:Stop laughing by Ashenkase · · Score: 2

      We have a video of the kickoff meeting with Microsoft and that designer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5WQLMwHHk

    7. Re:Stop laughing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have. It's "must HAVE". "of" makes no sense.

      The best response of that nature that I've seen read something like "Do you of any idea how annoying that is?"

      yes that's why I intentionally with the grammar.

    8. Re:Stop laughing by dacut · · Score: 1

      May have taken a bit longer. He was required to use MS Paint.

    9. Re:Stop laughing by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Are you sure that's not something related to the GNU project?

    10. Re:Stop laughing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was me. Maybe I should log in.

    11. Re:Stop laughing by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      Nah, the heads of the committees realized it would end that way, got together with their four competing logos for a game of darts - last one hit wins. They started to put them on the bulletin board, with a colored sheet behind each, in the teams' colors. Once they got the colored sheets up, the committee heads said, "Wait a minute..." and here we are.

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    12. Re:Stop laughing by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

      I'm not too cunning of a linguist but I think what happened there (in American English at least) is that "have" when spoken has morphed to sound more like "huv" which is then erroneously rendered in text as "of" by the semi-literate.

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  5. Oh my God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's so beautiful I wept!

    1. Re:Oh my God! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Wow, oh wow! Whoa! A square rainbow! WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!? T_T

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    2. Re:Oh my God! by Nerdfest · · Score: 0

      With their 'Metro Market' lock-in, I figured the new logo would be a stylized graphic of Balmer bending a customer over a table and shoving an apple up the customers ass. Of course, I did poorly at marketing.

    3. Re:Oh my God! by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      The new logo for the gay Republicans.

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    4. Re:Oh my God! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      No, even their gays are boring and uncreative:

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Logcabinlogo.jpg

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    5. Re:Oh my God! by Jeng · · Score: 3

      I figured the new logo would be a stylized graphic of Balmer bending a customer over a table and shoving an apple up the customers ass. Of course, I did poorly at marketing.

      The apple goes in the mouth, Balmer is shoving something else up the customers ass.

      Squeal!

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    6. Re:Oh my God! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      I figured the new logo would be a stylized graphic of Balmer bending a customer over a table and shoving an apple up the customers ass. Of course, I did poorly at marketing.

      The apple goes in the mouth, Balmer is shoving something else up the customers ass.

      Squeal!

      Presumably, a $500 office chair.

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    7. Re:Oh my God! by mellyra · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow, oh wow! Whoa! A square rainbow! WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!? T_T

      The video linked in the Technet announcement is interesting:

      blue: Windows
      red: Office
      green: XBOX
      yellow: ???

      Maybe Microsoft is planning a new product line ... (if yellow was Server or dev tools there would be no reason not to include it in the video)

    8. Re:Oh my God! by Teun · · Score: 1
      Whow fanboy, ease up and save your tears!

      This is not the rumoured cubistic Apple logo!

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    9. Re:Oh my God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think there's supposed to be a "PROFIT!!!!" in there somewhere...?

    10. Re:Oh my God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DOUBLE RAINBOW!!! Wow man. Like ....WOW! *crying from joy*

    11. Re:Oh my God! by LoP_XTC · · Score: 3, Funny

      The video linked in the Technet announcement is interesting:

      blue: Windows
      red: Office
      green: XBOX
      yellow: ???

      Maybe Microsoft is planning a new product line ... (if yellow was Server or dev tools there would be no reason not to include it in the video)

      Hmm I would have thought ...

      Blue - Windows (For BSOD)
      Red - XBox (For RROD)
      Yellow - ASP/.NET (Yellow screen of death)
      Green - ... Okay stuck on this one.

      Aaron

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    12. Re:Oh my God! by goeken · · Score: 2

      Green is for Money

    13. Re:Oh my God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      envy?

    14. Re:Oh my God! by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Yellow is for the frosty piss you would rather drink than use Microsoft products.

    15. Re:Oh my God! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A chair let perhaps.
      ducks...

  6. Better Article by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article shows a history of Microsoft's logos.

    1. Re:Better Article by jason777 · · Score: 1

      Whoa I never even saw the Metallica-like one before!

    2. Re:Better Article by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Hahaha quite funny to imagine them having that logo. I can just see a younger Steve Ballmer playing air guitar with a long wig on XD

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    3. Re:Better Article by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, and let me be the first to say, I think they went backwards.

      That logo belongs in the 80s. I'm saying this as a graphic designer too; The colors are flat, solid. It uses simple geometric shapes. The only thing that tells me that this isn't vintage is the kerning on the text at the end (they overlapped the crossbar on the 'f' and 't'), which wasn't terribly common in that day. And yes, I am saying this knowing the design house that created the logo (very disappointed, Pentagram... you're supposed to be the best here. Da fuq happened?).

      I know it was designed to evoke feelings of openness and friendliness, but to me it just comes off as dated. But maybe I'm jaded because I know that Microsoft OS' follow the same rule as Star Trek movies: Every other one sucks. And maybe I am being harsh on Pentagram; I mean, it's hard to design a logo for something you know is going to explode on the launchpad.

      But still guys, it's pretty 80s. You could have at least... I don't know... tilted the squares a little? Something. Anything. It's very boring.

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    4. Re:Better Article by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      If it makes you feel any better I temp-allowed their site and it still didn't work.

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    5. Re:Better Article by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      What I find really interesting is that the logos have gotten progressively simpler.

      But what's really disturbing is that if you look at the voting results on that page, the newest logo (which people are mocking here, rightfully) is easily the most popular. We could theorize that MS has gotten lots of their employees to go stuff the ballot box on that website, but personally, seeing how American society is these days and what people's tastes are, I think that survey is probably pretty accurate.

    6. Re:Better Article by gman003 · · Score: 1

      Dude, I was just about to say that.

      Hell, if the whole "Windows" thing fails on them, they should just fall back on their Xbox/gaming division (who seem at least decently competent (and profitable)), and re-use that logo.

      Now what's interesting is that that logo predates Metallica (or at least their first album) - "Kill 'em All" was released in 1983, while that Microsoft logo was dropped in 1981.

    7. Re:Better Article by Lord+Lode · · Score: 1

      I like the 1980-1981 on the most! Why did they keep that one only the shortest time?!

    8. Re:Better Article by sam_paris · · Score: 5, Funny

      Call me crazy but I think this is really a case of "different strokes for different folks." And in general it seems that anything Microsoft does gets criticized at Slashdot. I mean. I've been a member here since 2006 and lurked long before then and I don't recall many instances of people praising anything they've done, so this comment is very unsurprising.

      That said, I actually like this logo (yes, feel free to mod me +funny). I think that simple and flat shading evokes modernity and that trying to be fancy and use gradients or otherwise trying to make things pop-out or use 3D-ish looking elements is on its way out.

      As far as boring goes, we are talking about a large software company that makes most it's money of licensing software for big business, it's not a games studio or a high-octane energy drink company, the logo was never going to be neon green with a lightning flash. I wouldn't call Apple, Google, or Facebook's logos exciting either, they are functional. These companies live or die based on their products, not their logos.

    9. Re:Better Article by Hatta · · Score: 2

      That logo belongs in the 80s.

      Have you noticed women's hair styles lately? The synth-pop dance music? Hell, even the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are back on TV. I'll bet you anything we're in for a punk revival soon.

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    10. Re:Better Article by Lord+Lode · · Score: 1

      I don't see anything 80s in the logo personally... If the colors were CGA colors, then maybe...

    11. Re:Better Article by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, I completely disagree. You're right about how simple and crappy it is. But go back to the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s; a lot of things were simply better back then, and aesthetics are part of it for many things (maybe not cars in the 70s and 80s though, those sucked). There's been a clear trend towards minimalism I think, and MS's new logo reflects that. Just look at how UI designers are tripping over each other in a mad rush to de-feature everything, and make things as utterly simple as possible, even if that means removing useful functionality.

      I don't think there's anything dated at all about the new logo. It's in keeping with everything else these days. There was a lot more eclecticism in prior decades; back then, everyone was worried there'd be a big nuclear war at any time, so people were frequently less conservative as they thought they might as well enjoy life as much as possible since any day might be their last. Nowadays, that threat is gone and America at least seems to be going into ultra-conservative mode. So even adorned typefaces are out; how often do you see any kind of serif-using typefaces used in print? We've all moved to Arial for some time now. Heck, I remember back in the mid-90s when Windows was new, and everyone was downloading all the fonts they could find and playing around with them. Sometimes the results were pretty horrific, but there was a lot of experimentation going on. Now, no one does that, they just use the most basic sans-serif one they can find (which is usually Arial) and leave it at that for everything they ever write. It's no surprise to me that new company logos are reflecting this trend.

    12. Re:Better Article by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      The funny thing about your comment is that the only thing that you think looks modern and not from the 1980s is the part they kept from the logo they adopted in 1987

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    13. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. If you want to go retro, bring back the 1980 - 81 logo.

    14. Re:Better Article by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 1

      agreed. this is the most boringest logo they could have possibly come up with. absolutely zero creativity at that company...

    15. Re:Better Article by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bah. Pentagram made a Windows 8 logo. Look at the one on their own homepage by Paula Scher, their lead designer and goddess in the design world -- monochrome, baby blue, sans serif font, angled rectangles. That looked modern.

      Logos are supposed to look simple, they're symbols; and should be easily recognizable and (ideally) capable of being used in black and white. Anyone who's taken a semester of graphic design classes could tell you that much.

      And don't say companies don't live or die based on their logos: Brand identity is what separates Pepsi from Coke. I won't get into the research and market data that says how important this is, but it is and you're making a huge mistake to think otherwise.

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    16. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh god, and aviator glasses ... why?

    17. Re:Better Article by NJRoadfan · · Score: 1

      Too bad Saul Bass is dead. His work was timeless.

    18. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you squint, that looks like a proto-goatse for 1982-1986.

    19. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here; temp permission for nearly everything on the page, still nothing. What kind of crap is this?

    20. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing that tells me that this isn't vintage is the kerning on the text at the end (they overlapped the crossbar on the 'f' and 't')

      That's a nod to typographic tradition, where typesetters used a single block for certain pairs or triples of letters including "ff", "fi", "ffi", and "ft". Steve Jobs was a noted fanatic on font quality; Microsoft may or may not have followed his lead as far as the logo was concerned (I noticed their old logo also had an f-ligature).

    21. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised Metallica didn't go all 'Napster' on M$

    22. Re:Better Article by A+Friendly+Troll · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm saying this as a graphic designer too ... kerning on the text at the end (they overlapped the crossbar on the 'f' and 't')

      I don't want to be a dick, but that's not kerning, that's a ligature, and it's been present in various scripts for about five thousand years (seriously). Furthermore, neither 'f' nor 't' have crossbars; they have cross strokes.

    23. Re:Better Article by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      You can click a link on the page to see the logos, but no images load on the page itself.

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    24. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But still guys, it's pretty 80s. You could have at least... I don't know... tilted the squares a little? Something. Anything. It's very boring.

      So this is why the 2012 Olympics logo/theme looks like it was designed by a high school yearbook staff. You guys are making your own standards for good design.

    25. Re:Better Article by GoblinKing · · Score: 1

      IS it just me or does the logo (when rotated 45 degrees) resemble a HazMat sign?

      http://www.compliancesigns.com/nfpadiamonds.shtml

    26. Re:Better Article by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      The colors are flat, solid. It uses simple geometric shapes ... I know it was designed to evoke feelings of openness and friendliness

      I take it you haven't seen Win8. Because if you did, you'd know why the logo looks the way it does, and that has nothing to do with "feelings of openness".

    27. Re:Better Article by sam_paris · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not saying you are wrong about the logo, it's a matter of opinion of course. However, I think it's somewhat specious to compare the logos of drinks companies and software companies. When it comes to drinks companies, let's be fair, there's basically no difference between any of the 100 different types Coke, so, in this this case branding is hugely important. In the end, all the drinks have the same "functionality" which is to quench your thirst, taste sugary, and provide you with caffeine. So all Coke can really do is push their name and history and "secret" formula and it's famous logo.

      However, when it comes to Microsoft Server software and say Linux server software, these are two very different products with a vast array of differences and relative positives and negatives. The people in charge of choosing whether a database server gets Windows Server 2008 and SQL Server or Linux and MySQL is going to be looking at up-times, security, compatibility, and so on. The point I'm trying to make is that the branding of a company is definitely more important for some companies than others and soda especially is an example of where branding is hugely important, business software, not so much.

    28. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brand identity is what separates Pepsi from Coke.

      Well, and that they taste different.

    29. Re:Better Article by brainzach · · Score: 1

      To be fair, none of the old Microsoft logos were that great to begin with.

    30. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they overlapped the crossbar on the 'f' and 't'

      If you're truly a designer I hope to hell that you know that's a ligature...

    31. Re:Better Article by styrotech · · Score: 1

      Whoa I never even saw the Metallica-like one before!

      Am I evil? Yes I fucking am!

    32. Re:Better Article by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      Yeah, well, I failed typography three times. :) But when I said kerning, I meant it; the f and t are so close together they overlap, and it's only two letters instead of three, otherwise it would be tracking. As far as the crossbar / cross strokes thing... yeah, well, ya got me there. POINT, BLUE!

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    33. Re:Better Article by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      So all Coke can really do is push their name and history and "secret" formula and it's famous logo.

      I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. Software patents, source code versus machine code, etc., all contribute to say that software has just as much right to claim it has a "secret sauce" as a bottled beverage does.

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    34. Re:Better Article by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      But it's somewhat evocative of the much-imitated Iron Maiden font which was out-and-about much earlier.

    35. Re:Better Article by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      MS wasn't responsible for Lars not being able to afford a third mansion.

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    36. Re:Better Article by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I agree. I'm not a designer, but still. What is a 'Microsoft'?

      Personally, their old logo worked for me. We recently designed our company logo and decided "no we're not doing a stupid logo", and by that we meant one with graphics in it. We wanted to make our logo unique and 'styled' but at the same time we needed to have it be self-identifying.

      Why? Because everyone does that. Shell, BP, Coke/Coca Cola, Pepsico, Microsoft (before this announcement), Dove, IBM, Veritas, AT&T, T-mobile, and even Apple, to a large degree, use a styled company name or a logo in place of it (less common and primarily if they're better known - eg. Apple).

      Their old logo was simple, elegant, and unique. That 'o' with the inverted 'Q' tick/"s" taking a bite out of it? That alone identifies "Microsoft" to many people.

      This new logo looks about as generic as possible. Underwhelming is a good word for it. Is it supposed to make me feel comfortable? With software, you're selling image as much as anything. They could have at least made their image not look retarded (though that is in keeping with what they're doing, so it was probably an easy win in 5 minutes for Pentagram).

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    37. Re:Better Article by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      there's basically no difference between any of the 100 different types Coke,

      You mean there is no difference other than taste? I can't stand drinking cola's that aren't Coca-Cola. I also don't care for any of the other flavored Coca-Cola's either. Branding is HUGE for products, look at Red Bull. But saying the only difference between Coke and Pepsi is their branding is entirely inaccurate.

    38. Re:Better Article by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      I really like the 1980-1981 logo, although it would be better with a liberal application of umlauts.

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    39. Re:Better Article by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      The final choice would have been made by soulless M$ drones, not Pentagram.

      You try doing good work while a monkey in a suit throws chairs at you.

    40. Re:Better Article by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Maybe this time cyberpunk fashion will come around and we'll have the look to match the world. Good, I could do with some more functional clothes.

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    41. Re:Better Article by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      (maybe not cars in the 70s and 80s though, those sucked)

      WAAAAT?

      IMO the best looking cars were built from the early 70s to the early 90s. The 80s was the golden age of good-looking Japanese sports cars. But I think an AW11 MR2 is a really good-looking car.

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    42. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you noticed women's hair styles lately? The synth-pop dance music? Hell, even the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are back on TV.

      No, and I don't have to until they pry my mouse and keyboard out of my dead cold hands

    43. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting points. But it doesn't explain Pepsi's $150M logo redesign, which I think looks a lot like a vag.

    44. Re:Better Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's mostly the Apple fans that give Microsoft unjustified and often hypocritical hate.

    45. Re:Better Article by R3d+Jack · · Score: 1

      "But still guys, it's pretty 80s"

      Seriously? I've seen more creativity from the 1880's. B.C.

  7. Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, rounded corners make all the difference. You should know that by now.

    2. Re:Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they rolled out this new logo because the old Windows logo had rectangles with curved sides in it. And curved sides are just rounded corners for the straight parts!

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    3. Re:Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by Ziggitz · · Score: 1

      True, but I don't think they wanted to risk litigation.

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    4. Re:Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by KalvinB · · Score: 1

      http://toastytech.com/guis/win31logo.png

      I'd say it was the other way around. Microsoft has just adapted a variation of the Windows Logo as their company logo.

    5. Re:Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by Zordak · · Score: 4, Funny

      And curved sides are just rounded corners for the straight parts!

      What's really screwed up is that this is not the most nonsensical statement on Slashdot. It's probably not even the most nonsensical thing I've personally seen on Slashdot today.

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    6. Re:Either Microsoft stole it from this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It kind of reminded me of the Univision logo the first time I saw it.

  8. One of the linked story's comments was right by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    It really does look like the image used on a Quatro can: http://www.canmuseum.com/Staging/Images/Cans/22681.jpg

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  9. too boring for /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a mechanism one can use for pushing stuff below an interest threshold?

    1. Re:too boring for /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a mechanism one can use for pushing stuff below an interest threshold?

      Yes, it's that little wheel-shaped object between your mouse buttons.

    2. Re:too boring for /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can also vote stuff in http://slashdot.org/recent.

  10. I find it okay by ZeroSumHappiness · · Score: 2

    I don't like the spacing between the f and t, aesthetically, but I like clean lines and simple designs so it works pretty well for me.

    1. Re:I find it okay by jgrahn · · Score: 1

      I don't like the spacing between the f and t, aesthetically, but I like clean lines and simple designs so it works pretty well for me.

      The ft ligature looks more and more weird the more I look at it. I'm not sure it's a good idea to have those in a logo.

    2. Re:I find it okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I don't like the spacing between the f and t

      Such a thing is a cognitive trick used in logo design. The fact you noticed it, means it works. Now you remember it (the visual pattern) and it is distinguished.

    3. Re:I find it okay by ZeroSumHappiness · · Score: 1

      But it's an intentional /flaw/? I thought logos tried to introduce subconscious connections like the famous FedEx arrow?

  11. What I see... by Gertlex · · Score: 4, Funny

    So is the average user going to think that the logo is the app for the game Simon? Artistic brilliance, aye! Should make that playable while computer boots...

  12. Simple, but probably expensive. by rajanala83 · · Score: 1

    Doesn't look to fancy. Simplicity can be very expensive.

  13. zZZ by monstercoo · · Score: 1, Funny

    *crickets*

  14. Yeah, it's a crap logo by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To be expected. What I want to know is:
    a) How much time did they spend on this?
    b) How much money did they spend on it?

    Anything north of 12 months and $50 mil, I'll be suitably disgusted and impressed. 24 months and $100 mil, they deserve some kind of fail award.

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    1. Re:Yeah, it's a crap logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can feel the share-holder value increasing as a result of this....

    2. Re:Yeah, it's a crap logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be expected. What I want to know is:
      a) How much time did they spend on this?
      b) How much money did they spend on it?

      a) A long enough time so the graphics company had enough spare time to properly enjoy all the money spent on it (see answer b).
      b) More money than you would ever see in thirty lifetimes.

    3. Re:Yeah, it's a crap logo by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Anything north of 20 minutes of some graphic designer's lunch break, and they massively overspent.

    4. Re:Yeah, it's a crap logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're FAR more generous than I am. Balmer's youngest daughter spending anything more than a couple of hours using MS Paint would be fail award worthy in my opinion.

    5. Re:Yeah, it's a crap logo by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      Using any graphic program (GIMP, Photoshop, MS Paint, etc) to draw anything has been utterly baffling to me for 20 years. However, I could draw this in less than 5 minutes:

      1. Select the "square" tool.
      2. Select the color you want.
      3. Lather, rinse, repeat 3 times
      4. Select the text drawing tool
      5. Select a big font size like 32 or 48
      6. Type "Microsoft"

      Actually, I think the last step is the hardest. "Microsoft" is actually kind of hard to type. Perhaps they should have gone to Hatchwise.com to get a good logo.

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  15. already leaked, perhaps? by Urza9814 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Interesting...a few weeks ago I recall seeing an article somewhere about supposedly leaked designs for new Microsoft devices -- I think it was a portable mouse and some other things, can't remember where I saw it. But one of the comments pointed out that it was probably fake, because the Microsoft logo on the devices didn't have their usual slant, didn't have the notch in the o.....it basically looked like this one. Perhaps they weren't fake after all?

    1. Re:already leaked, perhaps? by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Oh, it was the 'wedge' mouse, and it's already official. Well, guess that clears that one up!

  16. Boring by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 2

    Worse than the flag, that's an achievement.

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    1. Re:Boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Design a worse logo than the one you've got. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!

  17. Dodged a bullet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank goodness their logo doesn't have any rounded corners.

    1. Re:Dodged a bullet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Apple-Microsoft Nonagression Pact specifically states that Apple gets the round corners, Microsoft gets the sharp corners, and the two of them team up to sue anyone else out of the market.

  18. Ligature by nxcho · · Score: 3, Funny

    The ft ligature looks a bit like its standing out. Like they want their name to be stressed MicrosoFT and you get spit all over your screen.

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    1. Re:Ligature by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      While I see what you mean, the logo does personally give me that impression.

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  20. Unimaginative by ReptileQc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apparently this is the "less is more" philosophy... but at the same time, it is plain and unimaginative. Isn't it bad for a company that aims to prove that they can reinvent themselves?

    1. Re:Unimaginative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange, the mobile company, has an orange square on a black background.

    2. Re:Unimaginative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      plain and unimaginative

      That sums up MS's entire history. It represents them well.

    3. Re:Unimaginative by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Isn't it bad for a company that aims to prove that they can reinvent themselves?

      Microsoft has absolutely no interest in re-inventing themselves, they are trying to re-invent their customers.

      Their customers of course have no interest in being re-invented.

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    4. Re:Unimaginative by ksandom · · Score: 1

      It's recognisable, and it's easy to put on a letter head/thing, which helps it be recognisable. While it's not that pretty, it is doing what a logo is supposed to do.

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    5. Re:Unimaginative by ReptileQc · · Score: 2

      Actually, unless you already know the company, neither the logo nor the writing is especially recognisable imho. The logo look like a cardboard color print test and because now the writing is in a simple font, it could be anything. Hardly recognisable to me. At least the previous logo and font were unique (or at least somehow distinctive). It almost seems as if after trying to copy iOS from Apple, they were now after the Google logo and color branding.

    6. Re:Unimaginative by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      Apparently this is the "less is more" philosophy...

      You mean "more is more" since this logo has more than the previous logo.

    7. Re:Unimaginative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft is gigantic and the company has the negative perception of being the "big brother." They're trying to look "smaller" and more approachable. GE is doing the same with their branding by emphasizing people and everything is lower-case on the tagline (just go to their website if you don't believe me.)

      The problem with humongous companies is that they don't want to look too big and intimidating (unless you're a bank I think). The small guys, on the other hand, want everything fancy with cool splashes and laser background and whatnot to look like they have a big budget to burn - in essence, look like they're big.

      Sure, MS's logo is plain and I suppose unimaginative, but it's better to be neutral than a negative mark.

    8. Re:Unimaginative by ksandom · · Score: 1

      You make some good points. But dude! That's a fascinating site you linked to right there.

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  21. Love the current comments on that page by BorgAssimilator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It must have took around 5 minutes in paint to come up with that design..."

    "I can't help but think of windows 3.11 for some reason."

    "Does my monitor need calibrating again, or do those four colours in the panes look curiously sickly?"

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  22. Return to fomer glory by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Not.

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  23. Re:A bold new direction for Microsoft. by Teresita · · Score: 1

    And the jagged diagonal lines on "MICROSOFT" are so retro Win3.1. Flying toasters are out. Flying chairs are in.

  24. ... and made with MS Paint by schwep · · Score: 5, Funny

    Really? This looks like the last thing you drew before you thought, "I should try out the circle brush."

    1. Re:... and made with MS Paint by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 1

      I bet Steve Ballmer made it himself!

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    2. Re:... and made with MS Paint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, it was made with MacPaint.

  25. How much did that actually cost? by MonkeyPaw · · Score: 3, Funny

    Four squares and some basic typeset.

    I can't even imagine how much they actually paid for this with all the different designs submitted, numerous meetings going over designs, tweaks to it.

    I can imagine the comments in the meeting though.

    "Yeah Bob. What we're looking for is something that says simple and not over thought. Go back and try AGAIN."

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    1. Re:How much did that actually cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Graphics people have to be kidding me. In the internet age, we have billions of colors to display, and this is all they could come up with? I'm sorry, but whatever happened to art that you would actually want to look at for more than a microsecond?

      http://scripophily.net/clevdiscom.html

      (Yes, I'm sufficiently knowledgeable about computer graphics to know that engraving does not reproduce well on computers. But dang people! No company logo produced in the last 20 years looks like anything but CRAP!!)

  26. It looks juvenile by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, this is the best they could do?

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    1. Re:It looks juvenile by zlives · · Score: 2

      just wait till sp1 for better colors

  27. Another fugly design from the marketing droids by Anomalyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Looks very Metro. (Tha'ts not a compliment)

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  28. Oh yeah. by DaveyJJ · · Score: 1

    A new logo. That's gonna help a lot.

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  29. Boring! by onyxruby · · Score: 0

    How completely utterly boring. Are they /trying/ to be the old fashioned square to Apples new and chic demeanor? Seriously, Microsoft, why are you committing corporate suicide lately?

    1. Re:Boring! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you really want Windows to be exciting? Metro is supposed to be exciting, and look how that's turning out. Windows is at its best when run in an incredibly boring fashion - the backdrop to an office job or to whatever game is playing.

  30. Paint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New Microsoft logo looks like it was designed in Paint

    1. Re:Paint by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Well imagine the irony if the new logo was created with a competitor's image manipulation tool? They eat their own dogfood, gotta give 'em that.

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    2. Re:Paint by tepples · · Score: 1

      Well imagine the irony if the new logo was created with a competitor's image manipulation tool? They eat their own dogfood

      Not always. Sometimes Microsoft even uses audio editors distributed by the prohibited-copying group Radium for files included with Windows.

  31. Anyone else notice this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So that font they're using looks suspiciously like another one I've seen before. A font associated with a certain "fruit company," one might say. Good to know that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

  32. slashdot by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

    how long before /. updates their logo then?

    1. Re:slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully soon since its usually an indicator of a failing company. Slash Dot is a mean nasty judgmental site. This logo looks like poo. Remember Kodak changed their logo not too ago.

  33. It's like the Polaroid logo turned 45 degrees by Animats · · Score: 1

    Compare with the Polaroid logo.

    This tiled-rectangle thing is getting completely out of hand. Even on phones it looks stupid.

    1. Re:It's like the Polaroid logo turned 45 degrees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This tiled-rectangle thing will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

    2. Re:It's like the Polaroid logo turned 45 degrees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, it's patented now.

    3. Re:It's like the Polaroid logo turned 45 degrees by vsync64 · · Score: 1

      Just saw this today with a friend of mine in response to an insane client of ours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emdzsz_XvfA

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  34. 10,000 Hours in MSPaint by TraumaFox · · Score: 2

    I bet the designer got paid more for that logo than I make in a year.

    1. Re:10,000 Hours in MSPaint by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      More than both of us combined :-(

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    2. Re:10,000 Hours in MSPaint by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      More than both of us combined :-(

      I disagree. It looks like he made it in 30 seconds. And earned the right for a reference on his free internship at Microsoft

    3. Re:10,000 Hours in MSPaint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i doubt it, they probably paid more for it then all of us make in an entire year, but the designer probably only wishes they made that kinda scratch.

    4. Re:10,000 Hours in MSPaint by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Nah, it was a team of graphic designers, their managers, project managers, resource planning managers, and probably a few VPs. And in the end, they farmed it to an intern.

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    5. Re:10,000 Hours in MSPaint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet that's true. I also bet many Fortune 500 CEOs could say the same thing.

  35. Simon says... by otaku244 · · Score: 1

    return your logo to the 1980's...

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    1. Re:Simon says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe we should be able to theme the logo as well. Choose 1 of the logos. Even the first logo looks better if you add a little color to the lines.

    2. Re:Simon says... by RevGregory · · Score: 1

      1980s? Heck...the logo Apple adopted in 1976 had two more colors than the new Microsoft logo!

  36. Do want...it to stop by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Oh boy! Instead of a flying window of its me too windowing environment, it's the me too of the giant smartphone tiny touchscreen square buttons paradigm transparently the future of the giant multimonitor desktop!

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  37. 25 years worth of work... by Cyko_01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and, much like vista, it is a huge disappointment

    1. Re:25 years worth of work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeings as where you're offsetting it with a 5 year old joke, I guess they're not doing too bad. Right, neckbeard?

  38. Is it me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or does their new logo look far less futuristic than their old one?

    I mean seriously, it's 2012 and they're putting out a logo reminiscent of the 80s? Actually that's insulting the logos that various companies in the 80s WERE putting out!

    Regardless it looks plain and 'old' to me.

    Microsoft! It's time for a mutiny!

    1. Re:Is it me... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      The definition of "futuristic" has changed, to childish ultra-simplicity.

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    2. Re:Is it me... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      As I said in a lengthy post above, this IS futuristic, and has nothing to do with the 80s. As you said yourself, various companies (including MS) were putting out much more detailed or extravagant logos in the 80s. It was only the cars back then that were plain and ugly and boxy, mainly due to economics I think. There's been a clear trend towards minimalism over the last 20 years; we've seen it in music, typefaces, and user interfaces recently. Music in the 70s and 80s was far more complex and detailed than what we have now. Remember in the 90s when everyone was going nuts downloading tons of fonts? Now everyone just uses Arial. This logo doesn't surprise me at all, it's a sign of the times.

      The old MS logo (80-81) that looks like Metallica's old logo (the one they used in the 80s, not the minimalist one they have now), that looks "old". But it also looks good. But people these days don't like stuff like that; they like ultra-simple stuff.

    3. Re:Is it me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The old MS logo (80-81) that looks like Metallica's old logo (the one they used in the 80s, not the minimalist one they have now)

      FYI Metallica changed back to their original logo.

    4. Re:Is it me... by acid_andy · · Score: 1

      As you said yourself, various companies (including MS) were putting out much more detailed or extravagant logos in the 80s. It was only the cars back then that were plain and ugly and boxy, mainly due to economics I think.

      Really? I think almost all contemporary cars are ugly now, except for some with genuinely retro styling (Dodge Challenger is nice) and some super cars.

      I also think that, in general, cars have got visually less and less attractive over the decades since the 1930s.

      Now they're designed around protecting jaywalkers above most other considerations.

      Oh, and to get back on topic, I hate all this touch screen / tablet / (not) Metro / plain squares / no shading / bland logos / ribbon stuff Microsoft is doing! Yes the logo looks crap and Windows 8 looks so much like Windows 3.1!

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    5. Re:Is it me... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Really? I think almost all contemporary cars are ugly now, except for some with genuinely retro styling (Dodge Challenger is nice) and some super cars.

      Maybe you're an older person. At nearly 40, I think today's cars are mostly pretty boring, not ugly, and they've gotten more boring. Except for Fords; those are mostly very ugly with those horrible chrome grilles. To me, cars were most attractive in the 1990s; they finally shed the horrible boxiness of the 80s, but they hadn't gotten so boring as they are now. There were lots of great Japanese sports cars in the 90s; then, those disappeared, and have only recently been making a comeback. Cars were ugliest in the 70s, when they were generally huge gas-guzzlers with horrible handling, though the Datsun 280ZX was a giant exception. I'll grant you that there were a lot of great-looking cars in the 30s and even 40s, but the 60s had a lot of nice cars too, except they were mostly made in Europe. There's still a few really nice-looking cars these days with a non-supercar price; the Hyundai Genesis (coupe) is quite attractive IMO, and Suburu/Scion have a new rear-drive sports coupe that's quite affordable.

      But you're right about the Metro/plain squares/no shading/bland logos stuff. As I was saying before, this is all part of the new trends toward extreme minimalism.

    6. Re:Is it me... by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

      It was only the cars back then that were plain and ugly and boxy, mainly due to economics I think.

      No, it's just fashion. It costs the same to make a boxy car or a curvy car. These things tend to go in cycles and also get dictated by the technology available to design them - in the 70s cars were designed on paper and with clay models, now it's all CAD so more complex shapes are achievable. But once people get bored with a certain look, one of the big manufacturers will strike out in a new direction and everyone follows.

      The two biggest design influences on cars in the late 1970s were Guigaro and Bertone. They came up with the sharp-edged "folded paper" look that prevailed in the 80s (it usually takes 3-4 years for a new design to come to market, or at least it did back then). It might seem hard to believe, but these boxy shapes seemed fresh and exciting at the time, just as big shoulder pads, ra-ra skirts and leggings seemed fresh and exciting once. It's just fashion.

      Personally I like Italian-influenced european cars of the 1970s, far more than most models today, and far more than American-styled cars of the 1970s (with a few exceptions). What appeals depends on your local culture as much as anything, but it's still all fashion.

    7. Re:Is it me... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      There's one other factor I believe: headlights. Prior to around 1990, in the USA (but not Europe, because they're much more advanced) there was a stupid DOT requirement that all cars had to use "sealed beam" headlights. This greatly constrained the styling on the front ends of cars at the time. Remember back in the 80s, most of the cars had those ugly rectangular sealed-beam headlights. Some cars went to lengths to try to get around this; this is where the pop-up headlight craze came from, the idea being that at least during the daytime your car could look sleek and attractive, and it'd only look ridiculous at night. Somewhere around 1990, they changed the requirement to be like Europe's, where you just had to use a standard halogen bulb that was easily replaced, so manufacturers switch very, very quickly to the new plastic headlight housings (with interior lenses or reflectors) that are still used today; with these, they had an enormous amount of flexibility in how they could style the front end of the car while not having to resort to pop-up headlights. One holdout was the Corvette, which has had pop-ups (or something like it) since the 60s, and finally switched to fixed headlights with the C6 model in the early 2000s, but most other cars (including high-end ones) switched to fixed plastic-housing headlights back in the 90s.

    8. Re:Is it me... by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

      Wandering well off-topic now, but ne'mind....

      You're right, local regulations will have an effect on design. I'm assuming you're in the US and looking at things from a US-based perspective. As such it might not be so obvious to you how design influences cross the Atlantic (very much in both directions).

      Pop-up headlights originated in the 1960s on Italian sports cars because they improved aerodynamics, or least that's the perception - a smooth body looks faster. Later, by having pop-up headlights, your design acquired a sporty look by association whether it was actually sporty or not. So another fashion was born. I'm not quite sure whether this was really driven by the need to get around sealed-beam regulations, after all, pop-up lights were everywhere even where sealed-beam units were not mandated. The ugly rectangular headlights were not just in the US in the 1980s, look at the ultra-boxy Citroen BX which as far as I know never made it to the US.

      Glass covers were another fashion, which reached a high point on the Ferrari 365 "Daytona". The design was largely copied by the Rover SD-1 but where that model was exported to the USA the glass covers were not allowed so it ended up with some rather ugly-looking dual headlamp units instead. For the same reason the strongly US-influenced GM/Vauxhall Firenza HPF could not be exported to the USA, though an export model was prepared. I assume that the "glass cover" rule came in in about 1975 because otherwise both of these designs from slightly earlier would have probably been a bit different. For example, the later GM/Pontiac Transam had a very similar nose design to the HPF but did not have glass covers.

      I believe the real influence on headlights for today's cars is the improvements in aerodynamic design and also moulding/design technology that allows complex shapes to be made, but if regulations didn't allow separate bulbs that would make life difficult for the manufacturers. I expect they lobbied for the rule change which was hampering design.

    9. Re:Is it me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also look at movie sets depicting the interiors of homes in the '80s. Clutter everywhere. Minimalistic and no clutter in most modern sets depicting home interiors.

  39. so am I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the only one to see a swastika?

    1. Re:so am I by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      Yes you are.

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  40. Logo Designer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The logo designer company is going to clap hands and open the bottles... 5 minutes work, 350.000 $ made. Yeah, Baby!

  41. Logo is fine, font is wrong. by Erikderzweite · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given the latest developments, the font should've been MS Comic Sans.

    1. Re:Logo is fine, font is wrong. by metamatic · · Score: 1
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  42. What does this mean??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its a double rainbow... omg

  43. Logo for Microsoft, not MS by tepples · · Score: 5, Funny

    there is no dollar sign in there.

    Of course there isn't. The logotype part is "Microsoft", not "MS". The dollar sign, an homage to Microsoft's roots as a BASIC interpreter publisher, comes in only when you abbreviate it as M$.

    10 M$ = "Microsoft"
    20 PRINT M$;" is a monopolist"

    1. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by hodet · · Score: 2

      you forgot 30 goto 10

    2. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by ACE209 · · Score: 2

      why not to 20?

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    3. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no! You have to save that change for later. You change the GOTO 10 to GOTO 20 and release it in the new version as a "performance enhancement".

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    4. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by rk · · Score: 1

      operagost gets the MS developer job. Congratulations! :-)

    5. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by leromarinvit · · Score: 1

      operagost gets the MS developer job. Congratulations! :-)

      Wouldn't that rather be the M$ developer job?

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    6. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by ACE209 · · Score: 1

      brilliant :)

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    7. Re:Logo for Microsoft, not MS by hodet · · Score: 1

      lol, because I suck at coding. :-P

  44. That does it! by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2

    I'm totally upgrading to Metro now!

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    1. Re:That does it! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Keep your filthy hands off my squares!

  45. Spin-outs by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    M$ has too much cash on hand to be sold off.

    How much cash would Microsoft have to hemorrhage before having to spin out pieces of itself? Would Xbox be the first to go?

  46. Sweet Jesus by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    That thing is so bad the f is molesting the t out of sheer despair.

    1. Re:Sweet Jesus by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 2

      Don't kid yourself. The t likes it.

    2. Re:Sweet Jesus by imikem · · Score: 1

      Is it "legitimate" molesting?

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    3. Re:Sweet Jesus by ramsun · · Score: 1

      That thing is so bad the f is molesting the t out of sheer despair.

      Yes, but the body of the "T" has ways of shutting down that sort of thing, you know.

      "F"s are always like that. Always effing something.

    4. Re:Sweet Jesus by BlkRb0t · · Score: 1

      I think it looks like the symbol "pi", a subtle geeky touch perhaps? Though I might be looking a bit too deep into it.

    5. Re:Sweet Jesus by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Only if it looks back.

  47. Now that's something i would expect from FOSS by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

    Now that's something i would expect from FOSS lol not MS. Who will not let Apple out innovate them. Not a very good start ide say.

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  48. Windows 7 lame too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows 7 was a bad OS too. XP wins hands down as Win 7 is just Vista SP 2

  49. Why was this necessary? by poisonborz · · Score: 1

    It's one thing they want to emphasize a new design formula - they can create a Surface brand around that, and even standarize the Windows/Office logos to match this change... but to change one of the most known corporate logo in the industry? All just to reflect and match a visual layout that will necessarily be replaced in 3-6 years?

    1. Re:Why was this necessary? by doodlebumm · · Score: 2

      The first thing you do when you find your company is getting ready to spiral into the toilet is to introduce a new logo. Right?

  50. Holy Roman War Flag by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 0

    Yeah, like I don't recognize the War Flag of the Holy Roman Empire when I see it. Come on..

    Fool me wunce, shame on me. Fool me again, and.......how's that go?

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  51. A minority of one... by Dr+Modesto · · Score: 1

    Am I really the only one here who prefers this over the old logo?

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    1. Re:A minority of one... by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      It has a certain simplistic charm, which is overwhelmed by the stink of the pathetic.

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  52. Google Chrome == Simon by tepples · · Score: 1

    So is the average user going to think that the logo is the app for the game Simon?

    No, you're thinking of the first logo for Google Chrome.

    1. Re:Google Chrome == Simon by Gertlex · · Score: 1

      Nah. I'd forgotten that Simon wasn't square. Sparkfun's DIY version has supplanted my mental image. And indeed, exact same ordering of colors in both.

  53. It's a... by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 1

    Well, it looks like a rectangular technicolor yawn to me.

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    1. Re:It's a... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Thanks, I just spent 10 minutes reading about vomiting.

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    2. Re:It's a... by cffrost · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I just spent 10 minutes reading about vomiting.

      Don't feel too bad... Think of it as reading a chapter from your hardware/wetware operations & specifications manual.

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  54. How many MS designers does it take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...to screw a light bulb?

    Nobody has the answer to this mystery yet. The room is still dark.

  55. There have been lots of different logos... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ones from Windows 3.1, 95, XP, Vista, and 7 all look different... why would anyone say it's the first time in 25 years?

  56. i like the logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Agreed about the revival. Or look at the more trendy clothing companies out there in the mall with the sans serifs. Fitted pants and skinny ties....or "skinny'-anything for that matter.

    We're in a 'Less is More' period. My only criticism is that Microsoft jumped on this bandwagon kind of late and I foresee this minimalism only lasting another 5 years or so.

  57. ligature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ligature, not kerning, you mean.

  58. Missed Opportunity by carrier+lost · · Score: 0

    I've sort of always hoped they would change their name to "Macrohard"

  59. Myriad vs. Segoe by tepples · · Score: 2

    Yes, both Apple's Myriad and Microsoft's Segoe (rhymes with ego) are inspired by Frutiger.

  60. Bad idea by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    It could look good enough in smartphones and maybe tablets, but have you tried to see that logo in a desktop?

  61. Are you kidding me? by epp_b · · Score: 2

    This logo looks like it came out of a middle-school art contest in the 80's.

    Do they even realize how hokey it is or have they just all drank the Metro kool-aid?

  62. Looks like a tombstone by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    with an X on it. Looks like it was created in a 1985 copy of MacPaint.

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  63. It's ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks ugly, doesn't invite and provokes no emotion.

    Out of creativity, Microsoft?

    1. Re:It's ugly by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Indeed. While simplicity is okay, the logo speaks absolutely nothing.

  64. cubism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It looks like a cubist version of the rainbow Apple logo.

  65. Don't believe a thing from Microsoft by surfdaddy · · Score: 0

    Well, we had a browser that was "part of the OS" that they removed from the OS; we had a start button that didn't start anything, their Plays for Sure music doesn't play any more, and now Windows doesn't have any windows. I say they're a bunch of liars!

  66. Am I the only one here.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who sees 'google' colors all over it???

    I mean, red-green-blue-yellow......yeah, yeah, I know MS used them before. I know is 'almost RGB + CMYK (well, RGBY for that matter)' and is not new, but that logo screams '80's google' that 'ehy I'm super-cool future metro-man'. I'm just saying.....

  67. Ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It makes me think Balmer's primary purpose is to destroy the Gates' fortune. He's such a nutcase.

  68. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the tenth time in twenty years, Microsoft has reworked the menu and short cut layout requiring everyone relearn how to use their crappy software.

  69. The Logo is Fine by zifn4b · · Score: 1

    I'm fine with Microsoft's new logo. It certainly looks much better than any of their previous logos. However, their new flat gray color scheme with 80's era upper case menu items is crap. It is painful to look at. I've been thinking a lot about why Microsoft moved to such crap color scheme and the only thing I can come up with is they are trying to distinguish themselves from Apple and maybe Google. Apple has a similar color scheme but the difference is they make tasteful use of shiny buttons, bevels and drop shadow. It seems like Microsoft didn't want to copy them so they decided to go with the exact opposite. Now, I'm definitely not an Apple fan boy but seriously, Apple's site looks 100x better than Microsoft's. In fact, I think Microsoft's new color scheme and branding strategy widened the gap. If I didn't know better, I'd say a decree came down from the top that the next branding/marketing strategy had to differentiate Microsoft from their competition. Microsoft definitely accomplished that... in the worst way possible.

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  70. Very fitting by Drunkulus · · Score: 1

    Microsoft. We're the box you can think in.

  71. I still feel this is the BEST Windows logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/startupshutdown/splash/winnt351.png

    * The one from Windows NT 3.51...

    APK

    P.S.=> I have always liked "3d-ish" design in things is why... apk

  72. False... by gwolf · · Score: 1

    MacPaint was only available in black and white in 1985 (and until the advent of the Macintosh II)

  73. pure math by miles+zarathustra · · Score: 1

    The window 7 logo was #65535 and then it cycled back to zero.

  74. Hurrah! by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    Appropriately ugly.

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  75. logo breakdown by wukka · · Score: 1

    who even has such hokey stained-glass windows? why are the f & t engaged in intercourse? it reads MicrosoA...MicrosoAp? subliminal microsoFT Windows, FTW!

  76. In an era of Unprecedented Detail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...we decided to go with something that looks like someone's FAVICON.ICO.

  77. Is it just me? by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or are those basically the same primary colors as Google?

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    1. Re:Is it just me? by ramsun · · Score: 2

      Is it just me, or are those basically the same primary colors as Google?

      Primary colours are all the same. That's why they're called primary colours.

  78. Windows, Inc. by Dusthead+Jr. · · Score: 1

    That logo looks rather bland. Might as well change the name of the company to Windows.

  79. Logo - Live Journalism At Its Best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't seen it yet. But I have no doubt it's rounder and swirly. Like the old logo after running a swirly side effect. Let's go see...

    Wow, was I wrong! Can't say I really like the new logo. Guess the old one was fine.

  80. Should have dropped the text. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should have dropped the text, IMO. Or at least did something about that "r" that's about to poke a hole in the "o".

  81. Seems familiar. by mugetsu37 · · Score: 1

    I guess I'll now refer to them as M&S Block.

  82. Most of you are wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I talked with Steve once, and he described four squares "powerful". It is because it represents the analytical character of the company and Ballmer himself. Steve didnt spent any money on this logo, he just said to make it like this, so it's as powerful as garther quadrant.

    Do you get the link? Analytical minds (Ballmer and programmers), magic quadrant, 4 microsoft divisions?

    It is one of the best logos in IT business with long history (as for IT), have some respect guys.

    The difference from companies like Apple is that Microsoft is a pure software company, like purely analytical and not even a bit hardware. This is changing and if successful, they will become like apple, and they will change their logo again, because in fact these squares should be in different size one the company hits the hardware business.

    These are important messages to investors, and taken very seriously. That's why Ballmer did design it himself.

    1. Re:Most of you are wrong. by crutchy · · Score: 1

      "powerful" my ass... the old one projects more of a corporate power image (especially the italicising and the "os" thing)

      look at lockheed martin's logo... now THAT'S a logo (the italics is what makes it seem powerful)

    2. Re:Most of you are wrong. by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      Damn, you set of the Shill Alarm... guess I'll have to go sort it out... *skulks to the control box*

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  83. Brought to you by the designers of Microsoft Paint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I meant brought to you by designers *using* Microsoft Paint, but that didn't fit into the subject line.

  84. Comic Sans? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    Why didn't Microsoft use Comic Sans for their new logo? After all, this typeface is most commonly associated with Windows, even by people who have no idea what fonts are.

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  85. reminds me of Gap logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing immediately reminded me of the failed new Gap logo from a way back... sans-serif with less letters and more squares. The Gap logo black on blue was really bad. The MS logo doesn't really offend any of my sensibilities.

    I like that they made ft into a ligature (the old logo did that too, but the word Microsoft in the Windows logo did not).

  86. Such a complex logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    4 Square of different color -- my eyes are blinded.

  87. Windows Logos for next 20 years by solidtransient · · Score: 1

    Related, here's the last 25 years of Windows logos and my take on the next 20 lol: http://firestream.net/images/posts/msnext20.jpg

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  88. This is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ballmer's attempt at being cool and hip :)

  89. i like the old one by crutchy · · Score: 1

    new logo... epic fail

  90. Whoop-de-doo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares.

  91. Worst logo EVER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worst logo EVER!

  92. Yes there is... by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Funny

    there is no dollar sign in there.

    If you watch the video introducing the logo, you'll note that three of the colors represent broad categories of Microsoft - Blue is Windows, Red is Office, and Green is XBox.

    So what's the color remaining they didn't provide an explicit mapping for in the video?

    Gold.

    Well played, Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Yes there is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Blue is Windows, Red is Office, and Green is XBox.
      So what's the color remaining they didn't provide an explicit mapping for in the video?"

      Yellow is for Microsoft Bob.
      - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob

    2. Re:Yes there is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Yellow is for Bing,

  93. The only warning label you'll ever need! by mmell · · Score: 1

    Just sayin'

  94. H&R Block (Re:poor) by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    H&R Block is even simpler: 1 green square ( http://www.hrblock.com/ ).

    H&R could claim MS copied them 4 times and sue for 4x infringement.
       

  95. NeXT box? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    MS always copies Apple.....poorly. MS stole the NeXT logo and removed a dimension.

  96. Lipstick, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meet Pig.

  97. So they *really* can't let go of the Windows brand by AaronLawrence · · Score: 2

    For years, Microsoft has been stuck on making everything "Windows". "Word for Windows". "Windows Live Messenger". "Windows Phone". Their marketing department seems convinced that it's their strongest brand and needs to be spread to absolutely everything, no matter how irrelevant.

    They clearly now have committed the whole company to it, building the Windows logo into the company logo.

    Personally, I think it's tedious and repititive and of little value. But they clearly aren't going to let go now...

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  98. might as well by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    If they're so adamant that their tiles aren't the worst UI decision in human history, might as well get married to it, lol.

  99. Phallic FT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was hoping for something ingenius like the FedEx arrow. All I can see is something sort of phallic going on with the f and the t at the end. It's like a squirting penis, or a penis wearing a broken condom. Think about it. Once it comes into focus (no pen intended) you'll think of it as the penis logo. Without that, it really is a bland wasteland of nothingness with some boxes that Sheldon piled up next to it in anal retentive fashion. That's it! Anal retentive on one end, penis on the other. There's not enough epic for this fail.

  100. Re:So they *really* can't let go of the Windows br by BlkRb0t · · Score: 1

    I think you have a valid point. Aside from Windows and Office, I think the only MS product without Windows incorporated into it and succeed is Xbox.

  101. My 2 cents being an independent UI designer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The design pushes the importance to the Microsoft by using that join on the f and t. It's almost trying to downplay the actual 4-square logo.

  102. Ugly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I first looked at it I thought it was a joke!

  103. Dumb and childlike by 1s44c · · Score: 1

    There are some very successful con-men selling crappy logos to companies.

  104. sad by pbjones · · Score: 1

    sadly it may have taken many days and many dollars to produce a logo that will look OK on the default low res startup graphic that was greeting me with Win95, but this is 2012 and I just can't believe that that is the best that could be done, so very lame, which matches Win 8.

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  105. ha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The definition of "futuristic" has been challenged

  106. The Designer was forced to use Windows 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and only squares and text are allowed, so this is what the came up with. Entirely predictable and makes sense to me.

    In future news:
    - Microsoft announces licensing agreement with Apple to be able to use rounded corners in the UI formerly known as Metro.

    ~3 months later:
    - Microsoft announces new logo (the squares use rounded corners).

  107. AVG Lawsuit in 3, 2, 1. . . by JSBiff · · Score: 1

    Check out the logo for AVG antivirus. Even though they aren't exactly identical, they are so close that I predict a trademark lawsuit. I don't know if AVG would actually *win*, but I bet they try.

    1. Re:AVG Lawsuit in 3, 2, 1. . . by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I wish they would, but I suspect if they did, Microsoft could string it out until AVG was out of money. Microsoft has more lawyers than AVG has employees.

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  108. Re:Ballmer by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Nah, they will never get rid of Ballmer. He gave us one of the top 100 internet memes of all times!
    Join me in a round of Developers! :: )
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    AudioSurf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3m8e0Un_Jc

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  109. was the guy working on the new logo hung over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After looking at this very UN-inspiring logo.. I imagine it went something like this....

    Manager: "Johnson, is that new logo ready?"...
    Johnson: "Umm... yeah... sort of. ", [pulls out some colored blocks he started one night, but never got any further]
    Manger: "That's brilliant! Looks like windows 8"
    Johnson: [eyes dart around] "ummm.. yeah! ... right.. that's what I was going for..."

  110. Wonder what they paid for it. by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    I happen to know that a Federal Government Agency in the early 2000s paid $75 grand for a sucky logo. It looked like a kid with a Mac "designed it", in two colors and about 10 minutes. That agency has an art department that I'm sure could have done a better job. It has since been replaced. No telling what a company like Microsoft paid for theirs.

  111. "The Next Microsoft" looked better by slacka · · Score: 1

    This guy did a personal MS re-branding exercise a few months ago. His combination of rhomboids looks much more modern and appealing to me.
    http://www.minimallyminimal.com/blog/2012/7/3/the-next-microsoft.html
    The new 4 colored squares in a square doesn't do it for me.

  112. Looks ugly and oldfashioned by gay358 · · Score: 1

    The new logo looks ugly and oldfashioned. Just like Windows Phone or Windows 8.

  113. downgraded logo by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    I know the article has been posted for awhile, but this just hit me. It's an epiphany.

    This is a downgraded logo. It's the logo of a once puissant company that is on the decline. It's an admission that "we're still going to be around, but in a reduced capacity". It's Microsoft marketing... giving up.

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  114. Misaligned due to LCD pixel structure by Sparohok · · Score: 1

    The small version of the logo (for example in the upper left corner of their home page) appears significantly misaligned. The red box will appear to be 2/3 of a pixel to the left of the blue box on most LCD panels due to the structure of the RGB elements in each pixel. The strong vertical lines and narrow gaps in the logo, along with the vertically aligned primary colors, makes this a really glaring problem. How embarassing for Microsoft, inventors of ClearType some 15 years ago, who should have known all about this issue.

    It took me about 10 seconds to notice this and another 10 seconds to figure out why. Microsoft spent how long and how much money coming up with this logo?