Would you rather: A) More companies enter into a similar patent agreement with Microsoft. B) Have a hot poker shoved up your ass.
Would you use Linux more if: A) More companies paid Microsoft to prevent Microsoft from bringing a harassment law suit against users. B) Had a hot poker shoved up your ass.
Would you feel more confortable: A) Doing business with companies who have partnered with Microsoft B) Having a hot poker shoved up your ass....
"Like it or not, these ARE weaknesses, at least in the eyes of many. The whole business of, "Well, this distro sucks but THAT distro is way better" is a very dodgy one for anybody making architectural decisions. Lots of companies stick with Solaris, HP and others because they just aren't interested in navigating that minefield."
Yep, what you said about "navigating that minefield" is pretty obviously intended to imply the use of Linux. On the off chance that I was wrong about you being a pro-Microsoft fuddster I went back and read some of your previous posts. I stand by my assessment.
Yep, these ARE untruths and have been for MANY years. I have had an easier time installing many versions of Linux on my hardware than installing Windows. Is Linux perfect? Nope. Is Windows perfect? Hell no...
And BTW using Linux isn't "navigating that minefield" and only a pro-Microsoft FUDSTER would suggest that it is.
"Through Google's focus they've gained a tremendously strong position," he said. "[Microsoft] must respond quickly and decisively . . . It's clear that if we fail to do so, our business as we know it is at risk."
Respond "decisively?" And there you have the embodiment of Microsoft's narcissistic need to utterly destroy any competition.
Don't underestimate the power of Microsoft's money to buy laws not just in the United States but other countries as well. They are bribing.. I mean lobbing government officials from many countries to get the laws they want to use to make Open Source competition illegal as a matter of practicality.
FOSS should avoid "Open" XML because Microsoft has encumbered it. Their game is now on. Offer code and protocols that they claim is "open" but, when push comes to shove, they alone control.
Down the road a bit they will begin strategic law suits and try to make FOSS programmers look like a bunch of thieves for implementing the "open standards" they pushed through without paying royalties.
Microsoft is not even a bit interested in competing on a level playing field. For a very long time they have used their monopolies to gain unfair advantages; antitrust laws be damned. Now they want to use their monopoly muscle in their Office package to control a "standard" that they feel will lock out their greatest competition. They know that GPL'd software CAN NOT be encumbered by patents.
They have no intention of real cooperation.
The solution: EVERYONE must work to make them irrelevant. Put them into a position where they either start playing fair or die. Not an easy task. We must press our Justice department to hold them accountable for breaking antitrust laws. The Courts MUST break Microsoft into a least three separate companies. This can easily be justified by their continued disregard for the law.
We should only support protocols and "standards" that are truly free. No unacceptable licenses, no royalties etc. As Linux gains market share there will come a time when Microsoft's insistence on being incompatible with OSS will begin to work against them.
We should push for laws that force standards and protocols to be truly open and available to everyone including Open Source.
"There's a bit more to it than that. SUN didn't win. SUN and Microsoft settled."
There is a bit more to it than that also. They didn't settle because they believed that they wouldn't win big if the carried the lawsuit out to its end. They settled because it was becoming too much of a financial burden. The 800 pound gorilla used its enormous wealth to broker a deal it didn't deserve. Just one more example to prove that illegal activities are not off the table for Microsoft if they are profitable enough. Yet another reason to break Microsoft into three separate companies so they can't ignore the law.
You are correct. JavaScript aka LiveScript is not Java. However its syntax is very close to Java which makes it a natural.
The important thing is that Mono and.NET needs to die. Microsoft has already beat the patent war drums while pointing to Mono. Novell claims that there is no patent infringement in Mono and they're probably right but the deal they made with Microsoft will cast doubts.
Microsoft has shown over and over that they aren't interested in playing fair or giving any quarter so the OSS community along with all IT companies that have management worth their weight in salt need to come to the realization that it's time to stop trying to deal with Microsoft and simply make them irrelevant. The only way to deal with bully is to punch him square in the nose.
Microsoft wants to control standards and the Internet. We must take those away from them. Any standard that Microsoft (or any company) encumbers with patents we should avoid. If they feel that they own the.NET technology then fine let them alone have it. We should create and push real open standards. The time for being nice guys is over.
We should also put the Justis Department to bring another anti-trust suit against Microsoft. God knows they haven't changed and continue to break the law. This time we need follow through and bust them up into at least three companyies.
It is no surprise that Sun put Java under the GPL2 for now. Sun didn't want to wait for the GPL3 license to become final. The Novell/Microsoft deal puts a dark cloud over Mono (The Linux implementation of.Net) which is in direct competition to Java. If ever there would be a better time to free the Java code, I don't know when.
I think the entire OSS community owes Sun a big thank you.
We should now embrace Java and incorporate it into Linux. We should push away from ASP.net and move toward making Java the defacto standard for web applications and Java script the standard for dynamic web pages.
It seems to me that we all want to be kept safe from terrorist attacks but are unwilling to allow profiling. I can't help but believe that if you use profiling you will be getting better results with the limited resources you have. The fact is that ALL of the 9/11 terrorists were radical Muslims. How does it help to pretend that this isn't so? I'm not being prejudice just realistic. If there were a militant hristian movement complete with suicide bombers I would hope that for my safety Christians would be profiled.
It seems to me that there is no way to get data coming right after the big bang unless you assume that matter was thrown out faster than the speed of light. I'm just a layman but wouldn't that data have passed us by a loooong time ago?
"Wrong! Price is irrelevant; the only consideration is that the device must be hackable by the user."
Whose ass did you pull that out of? Of course price is relevant. They made a big point of the low cost which would allow many, many units to be placed into the hands of children. Cost was a PRIMARY concern. If cost wasn't a consideration they would just buy regular laptops and install Linux instead of going though the pain of designing the cheapest system they could.
Some people will never "get it" because some people don't want to. You are one of those people.
Your sig speaks volumes about your lack of understanding as well as your zealotry against Linux. I'd call you a Microsoft butt-boy but that might get this otherwise insightful post modded down as a troll.
How many people buy Windows and then expect to "make money" directly from that purchase?? Answer: None.
You may use GPL'd code for free (as in beer) and because it's free (as in speech) you can modify it to exactly fit your needs and share it with others with out the license cops breaking down your door and hauling away your computer equipment.
I had wondered what Microsoft was getting for its 384 million bucks. Now I wonder how many more OSS projects Novell will dump. Just the ones that provide competition to Microsoft's cash cows perhaps?
Mark said something a little brassy that needed to be said.
Each of us must decide if the Novell/Microsoft deal changed the way we fundamentally view Novell and Suse. That is even more true of anyone developing a platform that is a part of this deal.
"... but teenagers settling out of court? That reeks of RIAA/MPAA tactics to me."
Why? What would you do if you found a teenage phisher? Just say "oh, it's a bad thing to try to con people out of their life savings but... it's a kid... Let's just tell him "no, no, no" and let it go at that... I hope he hasn't ruined too many lives..."
Give me a break! Not only does this NOT "reek" or RIAA/MPAA there isn't even a scent. Being a teenager isn't a get out of jail/juvi free card! Their still are consequences for actions.
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Would you rather:
...
A) More companies enter into a similar patent agreement with Microsoft.
B) Have a hot poker shoved up your ass.
Would you use Linux more if:
A) More companies paid Microsoft to prevent Microsoft from bringing a harassment law suit against users.
B) Had a hot poker shoved up your ass.
Would you feel more confortable:
A) Doing business with companies who have partnered with Microsoft
B) Having a hot poker shoved up your ass.
"Like it or not, these ARE weaknesses, at least in the eyes of many. The whole business of, "Well, this distro sucks but THAT distro is way better" is a very dodgy one for anybody making architectural decisions. Lots of companies stick with Solaris, HP and others because they just aren't interested in navigating that minefield."
Yep, what you said about "navigating that minefield" is pretty obviously intended to imply the use of Linux. On the off chance that I was wrong about you being a pro-Microsoft fuddster I went back and read some of your previous posts. I stand by my assessment.
Yep, these ARE untruths and have been for MANY years. I have had an easier time installing many versions of Linux on my hardware than installing Windows. Is Linux perfect? Nope. Is Windows perfect? Hell no...
And BTW using Linux isn't "navigating that minefield" and only a pro-Microsoft FUDSTER would suggest that it is.
Nice try.
"Through Google's focus they've gained a tremendously strong position," he said. "[Microsoft] must respond quickly and decisively . . . It's clear that if we fail to do so, our business as we know it is at risk."
Respond "decisively?" And there you have the embodiment of Microsoft's narcissistic need to utterly destroy any competition.
Don't underestimate the power of Microsoft's money to buy laws not just in the United States but other countries as well. They are bribing.. I mean lobbing government officials from many countries to get the laws they want to use to make Open Source competition illegal as a matter of practicality.
Give me a break. They'll figure it out!
Thank you Lisa Hoover AKA Microsoft... We know the thought of millions of children growing up learning about OS products keeps you up at night.
FOSS should avoid "Open" XML because Microsoft has encumbered it. Their game is now on. Offer code and protocols that they claim is "open" but, when push comes to shove, they alone control.
Down the road a bit they will begin strategic law suits and try to make FOSS programmers look like a bunch of thieves for implementing the "open standards" they pushed through without paying royalties.
Microsoft is not even a bit interested in competing on a level playing field. For a very long time they have used their monopolies to gain unfair advantages; antitrust laws be damned. Now they want to use their monopoly muscle in their Office package to control a "standard" that they feel will lock out their greatest competition. They know that GPL'd software CAN NOT be encumbered by patents.
They have no intention of real cooperation.
The solution: EVERYONE must work to make them irrelevant. Put them into a position where they either start playing fair or die. Not an easy task. We must press our Justice department to hold them accountable for breaking antitrust laws. The Courts MUST break Microsoft into a least three separate companies. This can easily be justified by their continued disregard for the law.
We should only support protocols and "standards" that are truly free. No unacceptable licenses, no royalties etc. As Linux gains market share there will come a time when Microsoft's insistence on being incompatible with OSS will begin to work against them.
We should push for laws that force standards and protocols to be truly open and available to everyone including Open Source.
"There's a bit more to it than that. SUN didn't win. SUN and Microsoft settled."
There is a bit more to it than that also. They didn't settle because they believed that they wouldn't win big if the carried the lawsuit out to its end. They settled because it was becoming too much of a financial burden. The 800 pound gorilla used its enormous wealth to broker a deal it didn't deserve. Just one more example to prove that illegal activities are not off the table for Microsoft if they are profitable enough. Yet another reason to break Microsoft into three separate companies so they can't ignore the law.
Probably not the only error... I do that when I get on a roll...
You are correct. JavaScript aka LiveScript is not Java. However its syntax is very close to Java which makes it a natural.
.NET needs to die. Microsoft has already beat the patent war drums while pointing to Mono. Novell claims that there is no patent infringement in Mono and they're probably right but the deal they made with Microsoft will cast doubts.
.NET technology then fine let them alone have it. We should create and push real open standards. The time for being nice guys is over.
The important thing is that Mono and
Microsoft has shown over and over that they aren't interested in playing fair or giving any quarter so the OSS community along with all IT companies that have management worth their weight in salt need to come to the realization that it's time to stop trying to deal with Microsoft and simply make them irrelevant. The only way to deal with bully is to punch him square in the nose.
Microsoft wants to control standards and the Internet. We must take those away from them. Any standard that Microsoft (or any company) encumbers with patents we should avoid. If they feel that they own the
We should also put the Justis Department to bring another anti-trust suit against Microsoft. God knows they haven't changed and continue to break the law. This time we need follow through and bust them up into at least three companyies.
It is no surprise that Sun put Java under the GPL2 for now. Sun didn't want to wait for the GPL3 license to become final. The Novell/Microsoft deal puts a dark cloud over Mono (The Linux implementation of .Net) which is in direct competition to Java. If ever there would be a better time to free the Java code, I don't know when.
I think the entire OSS community owes Sun a big thank you.
We should now embrace Java and incorporate it into Linux. We should push away from ASP.net and move toward making Java the defacto standard for web applications and Java script the standard for dynamic web pages.
It seems to me that we all want to be kept safe from terrorist attacks but are unwilling to allow profiling. I can't help but believe that if you use profiling you will be getting better results with the limited resources you have. The fact is that ALL of the 9/11 terrorists were radical Muslims. How does it help to pretend that this isn't so? I'm not being prejudice just realistic. If there were a militant hristian movement complete with suicide bombers I would hope that for my safety Christians would be profiled.
It seems to me that there is no way to get data coming right after the big bang unless you assume that matter was thrown out faster than the speed of light. I'm just a layman but wouldn't that data have passed us by a loooong time ago?
"Wrong! Price is irrelevant; the only consideration is that the device must be hackable by the user."
Whose ass did you pull that out of? Of course price is relevant. They made a big point of the low cost which would allow many, many units to be placed into the hands of children. Cost was a PRIMARY concern. If cost wasn't a consideration they would just buy regular laptops and install Linux instead of going though the pain of designing the cheapest system they could.
Some people will never "get it" because some people don't want to. You are one of those people.
Your sig speaks volumes about your lack of understanding as well as your zealotry against Linux. I'd call you a Microsoft butt-boy but that might get this otherwise insightful post modded down as a troll.
How many people buy Windows and then expect to "make money" directly from that purchase?? Answer: None.
You may use GPL'd code for free (as in beer) and because it's free (as in speech) you can modify it to exactly fit your needs and share it with others with out the license cops breaking down your door and hauling away your computer equipment.
Quit whining... :-)
I had wondered what Microsoft was getting for its 384 million bucks. Now I wonder how many more OSS projects Novell will dump. Just the ones that provide competition to Microsoft's cash cows perhaps?
We must forfeit many of our freedoms so that the "terrorists" can't take them away!
May I be so bold as to suggest that the term "expert" is rather subjective?
"The article looks in some detail at the engineering problems that will need to be overcome before this technique is practical."
For get the engineering problems, what about the financial problems. Mr. Bubble ain't cheap ya know...
I think his message went beyond that...
Mark said something a little brassy that needed to be said.
Each of us must decide if the Novell/Microsoft deal changed the way we fundamentally view Novell and Suse. That is even more true of anyone developing a platform that is a part of this deal.
"... but teenagers settling out of court? That reeks of RIAA/MPAA tactics to me."
Why? What would you do if you found a teenage phisher? Just say "oh, it's a bad thing to try to con people out of their life savings but... it's a kid... Let's just tell him "no, no, no" and let it go at that... I hope he hasn't ruined too many lives..."
Give me a break! Not only does this NOT "reek" or RIAA/MPAA there isn't even a scent. Being a teenager isn't a get out of jail/juvi free card! Their still are consequences for actions.