Well, I just thought that having to call a plumber to repair a toilet is a silly regulation, no reflection on you:) Toilets are pretty simple and screwing one up isn't likely to cause injury; no, that sounds like a union lobbied regulation to me. Plumbing is actually one of the most simple non-structural DIY repairs one can do. (The increasing use of Pex for plumbing is going to make that tougher, tho; but there's still CPVC, which is danged hard to screw up;) but overall Pex is pretty neat technology.
OTOH, while fixing existing plumbing is fairly easy, for insurance purposes it's a good idea to have a plumber install new stuff, unless you're certain that what you're doing will pass an inspection...
Electricity tho I have a very healthy respect for, and electricians absolutely should be licensed; I also agree with electrical codes. Ditto with General Contractors.
Um, no. The worst thing you can do if you mess up the electric work is to burn down your place and possibly the houses on either side of you (or the apartment building if you live in one).
The worst thing you can do with plumbing is to flood the guy downstairs (or ruin your new finished basement)...the chances of screwing up your sewage lines to the point of making the neighbors sick are pretty small:)
Yes, teflon tape will work. Shut off the house water, remove the supply line going to the toilet, unscrew the valve and clean the threading out, then wind teflon tape around the threads in the same direction you screw the valve on.
Well, technically, here in the US in most towns plumbing requires one to be licensed if you are running new lines to the vanities in question. It does not apply to simple fixture repair, however ( at least where I'm at, jurisdictions vary, I'm city licensed, which is somewhat unusual in the States)
That said, the teaching part I spoke about comes from my main job, which is a hardware monkey in a local hardware store. I have over a decades experience working as a Handyman in three states, each with varying laws. I like this one:)
The nice part about my job is the back and forth between us and the local contractors - we teach each other, and we all learn. For example, there will be times when I'll teach a plumber how to replaster a wall that he had to open up, and he teaches me a trick or two about how master plumbers do their job (I'm a JOT, but a master drywall finisher).
That is how it should be. My point was share and share alike is what benefits the most people... and there are places in the US where the specialties have monopolies too. In my opinion this contributes to the general ignorance, but what the fuck do I know:)
Sorry if that comes across a little offensive, but it's a pet peeve of mine. Contrary to some opinions, I don't feel I'm in danger of losing my job by teaching the proper way of doing things to the average Joe. On the contrary, I might get to take a vacation someday... Guess I'm old fashioned, without being old (only middle aged):)
1) Out of the valve, and not out of the bottom of the toilet tank (water is or is not running down the supply line) 2) Assuming 'yes' to 1); you have to replace either the valve or supply line running to the toilet:
2a) Leak coming from the toilet side of the valve, or the pipe/line coming from the floor/wall?
3) If toilet side, likely you need to replace the supply line, it has a bad gasket. There are some instances where it might be the valve connection itself, but that depends on the valve type (old chrome non-flex style?)
4) Leak coming from the supply line side, that will depend on what kind of supply line; copper compression fitting, Pex, Polybut, iron threaded, ?
5) Valve leaking from the valve stem: that's easy, valve needs replacement. It's a lot cheaper to replace most of those valves than it is for the average DIY to try to dismantle the valve and replace the internals.
Come on, give me a challenging one. I do this every day, and although most people can give me more info than you do, I've solved it on less info (other than the cracked toilet tank scenario, those are cheaper to solve by just recommending a new tank - commercial toilets are outside of this discussion, as they most often involve custom parts, other than Sloan flushers)
So how is this any different than a open source software author(s) diagnosing software? Differing degrees and levels of diagnosis, but troubleshooting is troubleshooting. I've done both of those, and motors, and many others. They all have the same basis, if differing details.
Your soul searching (and quest for *any* accurate analysis of slew of reports coming in) echoes mine.
Here is something interesting... and I'll say that I'll trust a 40 year Marine General's word over the evasions and half-truths I hear coming out of the press and Washington.
If it really had been self-defence then I wouldn't be having this debate with myself.
Ditto wrt to Iraq. Not Afghanistan, tho...if our government had stuck to that war, at least finished it up before committing us to another one, well...
Delving a bit deeper into that; if you're sufficiently motivated, you can learn to fix your plumbing for free; and not only is plumbing knowledge essentially free ( if you are willing to look for it ) but the standards on how to do so are published in the books available for a small cost.
Oh, and there are many people who will teach you about plumbing if you are willing to learn (it's part of my current job).
That's why the money to be made (and that is being made all over) thru open source belongs to the service trade. (There's no shame in being a software maintenance guy; the nice thing about open source vs. closed is that you have a lot more options open to you, whether you are a programmer or DIYer:)
Sharp added that there are several myths surrounding open source. People tend to believe it is free, he said, but even companies that support open source are just as motivated by commercial interests as any other commercial software vendor. Apparently undermining his initial assertion about open-source ruining local software efforts, he pointed out that open source giants such as Red Hat and IBM are still after a return on their investments. "They are not for the greater good of the community; they are also after the money," he said.
So what he's saying is that doing both is no better than just doing the one?
He then contradicted himself again, adding that without getting back any commercial returns, a software company will find it difficult to invest in developing new software products. Intellectual property rights fuel sustained innovation, was his point. "With open source, there is no way to make more software."
WTF? He at least has to have heard of Mozilla...
This aggressive if confused approach comes after months of determined effort by the software giant to prevent Linux taking over as the de facto operating system in the world's largest expanding software market.
Prevention of an immoral act via another immoral act is still immoral, regardless of magnitude
Pardon me, but that's crap.
If you are saying that we can't apply logic to ethics, then I'd like to know WTF WWI and WWII (and other wars, FTM) were about.
"He's demonstrated that he wants to kill me, therefore I have to kill him, so that he doesn't kill me."
That's simply binary logic; it's also known as survival. Put another way, there's Evil, and there's Necessity. Necessity is not "just as immoral" as Evil - some people (me included) would call them apples and oranges.
Larry Niven demonstrated this quite well in Ringworld; where he postulated that to save the hundreds of billions on the RW, they had to kill hundreds of millions; and he wasn't even considering war, in which the dividing lines are much more distinct.
If one follows what you said, one can argue morality right up to the point of extinction.
So let me ask *you* micromoog; which would you choose?
Actually I'd consider it likely that the sarin shell found was probably smuggled in from elsewhere. Makes more sense, considering the Jihadic fighters streaming in from everywhere to fight us in Iraq (interesting how it took them a while to get that organized, is it not?)
Not that this invalidates anything you said, just thought I'd throw it out.
Sometimes I think we should just beef up our forces in Iraq and wait until every Islamic fanatic who wants to go there to fight us has done so, and we've decimated them.
But then there's been a few times when I've thought that nuking the entire ME until it's green glass might not be a bad idea either (it would certainly fit in with our slide into Imperialism \sarcasm:-)
One way, it's a lose-lose proposition; the other way it's a win_over_generations/lose_civ proposition.
Basically, it's either being fucked in the court of public opinion now, or fucked in the court of history later. Basically, fucked. There are a few military commanders who realize that.
The people still fighting in Iraq have chosen their tactics for the same reason. They know that Americans will (justifiably) hesitate before attacking an area with civilians, and so they're taking advantage of it. They think they're right, we think they're wrong... but they're also saying: "fuck the rest".
Exactly. "fuck the rest" is precisely what a lot of the fanatics think. They think that their particular version of Islamic religion/views should dominate the rest of the world.
"How is this different from the US?" I can hear some people say...
Well, it's this; these people are willing to deliberately target and kill civilians (even and especially their own) who don't agree with them; these terrorist idiots are willing to use their own civilians as shields against the military forces opposing them; and furthermore, these particular assholes think that it's their fucking destiny that everyone else bows down to them and are slaves to their every whim, because they misconstrue their religious teachings in such a way as to convince them that the whole world exists for them, and their ilk, solely, and it doesn't matter to them who they kill, as long as they get their way.
Now, there's a lot of craziness in the US (and similar in other countries, BTW) but even our government is not willing to murder civilians en masse for the sole purpose of that sort of conquest.
Malc: Nothing really to do with your post, it was the "fuck the rest" statement that set me off.
While I don't agree that our government is entirely innocent (Rumsfeld apparently knew about the sanction given our intelligence forces carte blanche in anti-terrorist interrogations, and then (arguably) lied about it) the parent post is still spot on with respect to many of the arguments above it in this thread.
I agree completely with the opinion that terrorists - and insurgents in Iraq who don't follow the GC themselves - have no rights under the GC.
Leaving Iraq aside for a moment, let's consider this: EVERY CIVILIZED COUNTRY in the WORLD is "at war" with terrorism. Terrorists - those who would kill, en masse, unarmed and innocent civilians to make a POLITICAL POINT - are as the above AC pointed out, murderers and criminals.
Perhaps they should have trials. Ok, they should at least have an independent body or bodies consider the evidence against them. Unfortunately the WC is so busy examining it's own navel that it's unlikely anything would come of it.
To slow down terrorism, we have to punish those who commit *immediately* - because it's the only deterrent that the civilized world has against this particular kind of scum. Unfortunately some innocents will fall, even with that process, NO MATTER WHO IS DOING THE JUDGING, be it the US, the coalition, or the World Court.
Was the Dresden bombing justified? The Dresden bombing is a strongly debated decision, and the action is still widely perceived as lacking military justification, even within the context of the controversial area bombing policy pursued against Germany by Britain's Bomber Command in 1942-1945. The city has never regained its pre-war population of 630,000.
One popular charge against the bombing is that the city was not a military target. However, other evidence suggests otherwise; The city contained the Zeiss-Ikon optical factory and the Siemens glass factory (both of which were entirely devoted to manufacturing military gunsights). The immediate suburbs contained factories building components of radars and electronics, and fuses for anti-aircraft shells. Other factories produced gas masks, engines for Junkers aircraft and cockpit parts for Messerschmitt fighters. After the attack, Germany was to claim that Dresden's industry was only making civil goods, a notion which much of the world accepted, and still accepts, as true.
Nearly all the major cities in Germany had at least one industry that could be legitimately considered a military target, and Dresden had more than one.
Otherwise I agree with you, you use whatever weapons you can, against whatever targets you have to, and you do it before they kill *you*.
Sorry, no, the Tusken Raiders are wearing suits now, and working in Hollywood. As much as they bemoan the death of their desert culture, they realized the benefits involved in becoming Corporate Raiders.
While these web pages say that they re-entered the Earth's atmosphere, my understanding was that they were pushed out of Earth orbit by solar forces, due to their low mass/area ratio.
Interesting. I would think that molecular diffusion thru the Echo's "skins" would have deflated them long before they were pushed out of orbit thru interaction with the solar wind - also, as the Echo sats orbited in a nearly equatorial orbit, the forces on them wouldn't have necessarily accelerated them at all times.
Have any references for your thought there? Curious mind wants to know...
SB
PS - Solar wind particles can also act as an accelerative force, it just depends on which direction your sail is headed. Oh, and the whole Thomas Gold spectacle was hilarious:-)
Well Bah Humbug to you, too, Mr. Scrooge. If you think that dreams aren't important, you've lost sight of the true meaning and goals of science.
Research doesn't *have* to have practical offshoots, you know. If that policy was canon thruout history, we'd still be at the level of chipped stone knives.
Experimentation is what has brought us to where we are right now - if we kill it (and the attempts are being made by people who want to keep the status quo, not saying you are one, but your rhetoric belongs in that category) then how will we advance? Where do the discoveries come from?
Oh, if it has no goal other than life extension, it's useless?
CPU time sharing is voluntary; As you put it, most of those other projects have some or another company doing it because they see potential profit. I've found it interesting and infuriating that people argue "But you should be running *this* instead of *that*. What I do on my computer is *my* choice. Whether or not, and how, it benefits the human race is entirely a subjective opinion.
Often I think that it'll be some amateur analysis that finds an important signal. Not to put the SETI research group down, but they are necessarily limited to a limited set of filters. It's entirely possible that there are signals out there that don't fit their criteria.
I'm sure you know how comet detection has become an amateur industry.:)
I don't have time to do the analysis you do; but thanks for the link - hadn't seen baudline nor had time to play with it. Questions:
Is there a simple script one could build on for analyzing.sah files?
Have you found peaks at the obvious lines? In that respect I wonder if another civ with a different approach to astrophysics might not be using other bands to communicate.
By trough at 1.4 I assume you're talking about cellphones?
By all means, if you can find the time, make that webpage.
SB (An amateur with little time to play, but seriously interested - forgive me my ignorance?:)
I always hated those Step Up, Step Down tests. So damned hard, and you're exhausted at the end; then they want you to *work* even! Sheese, what a cruel universe...
I hope so. It might give the Western world (aka the US) a sorely needed kick in the pants.
If we leave aside exploration - which is important for it's own sake - there's the fact that domination of space would be a military trump card; witness the huge impact that just intelligence satellites have made.
Treaties or no, a solid launch/travel capability in space has been and is going to be one of the next contentions for superpower status. Having weaopnry in orbit that can strike within two hours of an alert, with little danger of retaliation, is an absolutely priceless military asset. We may not be able to do that economically now, but we certainly will be able to do so within the next few decades.
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Well, I just thought that having to call a plumber to repair a toilet is a silly regulation, no reflection on you
OTOH, while fixing existing plumbing is fairly easy, for insurance purposes it's a good idea to have a plumber install new stuff, unless you're certain that what you're doing will pass an inspection...
Electricity tho I have a very healthy respect for, and electricians absolutely should be licensed; I also agree with electrical codes. Ditto with General Contractors.
Cheers!
SB
Um, no. The worst thing you can do if you mess up the electric work is to burn down your place and possibly the houses on either side of you (or the apartment building if you live in one).
The worst thing you can do with plumbing is to flood the guy downstairs (or ruin your new finished basement)...the chances of screwing up your sewage lines to the point of making the neighbors sick are pretty small
SB
Sorry, fell asleep
Yes, teflon tape will work. Shut off the house water, remove the supply line going to the toilet, unscrew the valve and clean the threading out, then wind teflon tape around the threads in the same direction you screw the valve on.
Rescrew valve. Should be done
SB
You're kidding me, right? No...
Well, technically, here in the US in most towns plumbing requires one to be licensed if you are running new lines to the vanities in question. It does not apply to simple fixture repair, however ( at least where I'm at, jurisdictions vary, I'm city licensed, which is somewhat unusual in the States)
That said, the teaching part I spoke about comes from my main job, which is a hardware monkey in a local hardware store. I have over a decades experience working as a Handyman in three states, each with varying laws. I like this one
The nice part about my job is the back and forth between us and the local contractors - we teach each other, and we all learn. For example, there will be times when I'll teach a plumber how to replaster a wall that he had to open up, and he teaches me a trick or two about how master plumbers do their job (I'm a JOT, but a master drywall finisher).
That is how it should be. My point was share and share alike is what benefits the most people... and there are places in the US where the specialties have monopolies too. In my opinion this contributes to the general ignorance, but what the fuck do I know
Sorry if that comes across a little offensive, but it's a pet peeve of mine. Contrary to some opinions, I don't feel I'm in danger of losing my job by teaching the proper way of doing things to the average Joe. On the contrary, I might get to take a vacation someday... Guess I'm old fashioned, without being old (only middle aged)
Cheers!
SB
Just ask. :)
Troubleshooting:
1) Out of the valve, and not out of the bottom of the toilet tank (water is or is not running down the supply line)
2) Assuming 'yes' to 1); you have to replace either the valve or supply line running to the toilet:
2a) Leak coming from the toilet side of the valve, or the pipe/line coming from the floor/wall?
3) If toilet side, likely you need to replace the supply line, it has a bad gasket. There are some instances where it might be the valve connection itself, but that depends on the valve type (old chrome non-flex style?)
4) Leak coming from the supply line side, that will depend on what kind of supply line; copper compression fitting, Pex, Polybut, iron threaded, ?
5) Valve leaking from the valve stem: that's easy, valve needs replacement. It's a lot cheaper to replace most of those valves than it is for the average DIY to try to dismantle the valve and replace the internals.
Come on, give me a challenging one. I do this every day, and although most people can give me more info than you do, I've solved it on less info (other than the cracked toilet tank scenario, those are cheaper to solve by just recommending a new tank - commercial toilets are outside of this discussion, as they most often involve custom parts, other than Sloan flushers)
So how is this any different than a open source software author(s) diagnosing software? Differing degrees and levels of diagnosis, but troubleshooting is troubleshooting. I've done both of those, and motors, and many others. They all have the same basis, if differing details.
SB
Your soul searching (and quest for *any* accurate analysis of slew of reports coming in) echoes mine.
Here is something interesting... and I'll say that I'll trust a 40 year Marine General's word over the evasions and half-truths I hear coming out of the press and Washington.
If it really had been self-defence then I wouldn't be having this debate with myself.
Ditto wrt to Iraq. Not Afghanistan, tho...if our government had stuck to that war, at least finished it up before committing us to another one, well...
Cheers, and be well.
SB
Delving a bit deeper into that; if you're sufficiently motivated, you can learn to fix your plumbing for free; and not only is plumbing knowledge essentially free ( if you are willing to look for it ) but the standards on how to do so are published in the books available for a small cost.
:)
Oh, and there are many people who will teach you about plumbing if you are willing to learn (it's part of my current job).
That's why the money to be made (and that is being made all over) thru open source belongs to the service trade. (There's no shame in being a software maintenance guy; the nice thing about open source vs. closed is that you have a lot more options open to you, whether you are a programmer or DIYer
SB
Sharp added that there are several myths surrounding open source. People tend to believe it is free, he said, but even companies that support open source are just as motivated by commercial interests as any other commercial software vendor. Apparently undermining his initial assertion about open-source ruining local software efforts, he pointed out that open source giants such as Red Hat and IBM are still after a return on their investments. "They are not for the greater good of the community; they are also after the money," he said.
So what he's saying is that doing both is no better than just doing the one?
He then contradicted himself again, adding that without getting back any commercial returns, a software company will find it difficult to invest in developing new software products. Intellectual property rights fuel sustained innovation, was his point. "With open source, there is no way to make more software."
WTF? He at least has to have heard of Mozilla...
This aggressive if confused approach comes after months of determined effort by the software giant to prevent Linux taking over as the de facto operating system in the world's largest expanding software market.
Months? Try years....
FUD.
SB
Dude, you oughta be a comedian.
Um, nevermind
Keep it up!
SB
Prevention of an immoral act via another immoral act is still immoral, regardless of magnitude
Pardon me, but that's crap.
If you are saying that we can't apply logic to ethics, then I'd like to know WTF WWI and WWII (and other wars, FTM) were about.
"He's demonstrated that he wants to kill me, therefore I have to kill him, so that he doesn't kill me."
That's simply binary logic; it's also known as survival. Put another way, there's Evil, and there's Necessity. Necessity is not "just as immoral" as Evil - some people (me included) would call them apples and oranges.
Larry Niven demonstrated this quite well in Ringworld; where he postulated that to save the hundreds of billions on the RW, they had to kill hundreds of millions; and he wasn't even considering war, in which the dividing lines are much more distinct.
If one follows what you said, one can argue morality right up to the point of extinction.
So let me ask *you* micromoog; which would you choose?
SB
Actually I'd consider it likely that the sarin shell found was probably smuggled in from elsewhere. Makes more sense, considering the Jihadic fighters streaming in from everywhere to fight us in Iraq (interesting how it took them a while to get that organized, is it not?)
:-)
Not that this invalidates anything you said, just thought I'd throw it out.
Sometimes I think we should just beef up our forces in Iraq and wait until every Islamic fanatic who wants to go there to fight us has done so, and we've decimated them.
But then there's been a few times when I've thought that nuking the entire ME until it's green glass might not be a bad idea either (it would certainly fit in with our slide into Imperialism \sarcasm
One way, it's a lose-lose proposition; the other way it's a win_over_generations/lose_civ proposition.
Basically, it's either being fucked in the court of public opinion now, or fucked in the court of history later. Basically, fucked. There are a few military commanders who realize that.
SB
The people still fighting in Iraq have chosen their tactics for the same reason. They know that Americans will (justifiably) hesitate before attacking an area with civilians, and so they're taking advantage of it. They think they're right, we think they're wrong... but they're also saying: "fuck the rest".
Exactly. "fuck the rest" is precisely what a lot of the fanatics think. They think that their particular version of Islamic religion/views should dominate the rest of the world.
"How is this different from the US?" I can hear some people say...
Well, it's this; these people are willing to deliberately target and kill civilians (even and especially their own) who don't agree with them; these terrorist idiots are willing to use their own civilians as shields against the military forces opposing them; and furthermore, these particular assholes think that it's their fucking destiny that everyone else bows down to them and are slaves to their every whim, because they misconstrue their religious teachings in such a way as to convince them that the whole world exists for them, and their ilk, solely, and it doesn't matter to them who they kill, as long as they get their way.
Now, there's a lot of craziness in the US (and similar in other countries, BTW) but even our government is not willing to murder civilians en masse for the sole purpose of that sort of conquest.
Malc: Nothing really to do with your post, it was the "fuck the rest" statement that set me off.
SB
Please.
While I don't agree that our government is entirely innocent (Rumsfeld apparently knew about the sanction given our intelligence forces carte blanche in anti-terrorist interrogations, and then (arguably) lied about it) the parent post is still spot on with respect to many of the arguments above it in this thread.
I agree completely with the opinion that terrorists - and insurgents in Iraq who don't follow the GC themselves - have no rights under the GC.
Leaving Iraq aside for a moment, let's consider this: EVERY CIVILIZED COUNTRY in the WORLD is "at war" with terrorism. Terrorists - those who would kill, en masse, unarmed and innocent civilians to make a POLITICAL POINT - are as the above AC pointed out, murderers and criminals.
Perhaps they should have trials. Ok, they should at least have an independent body or bodies consider the evidence against them. Unfortunately the WC is so busy examining it's own navel that it's unlikely anything would come of it.
To slow down terrorism, we have to punish those who commit *immediately* - because it's the only deterrent that the civilized world has against this particular kind of scum. Unfortunately some innocents will fall, even with that process, NO MATTER WHO IS DOING THE JUDGING, be it the US, the coalition, or the World Court.
\end rant
SB
http://www.fact-index.com/b/bo/bombing_of_dresd
Was the Dresden bombing justified?
The Dresden bombing is a strongly debated decision, and the action is still widely perceived as lacking military justification, even within the context of the controversial area bombing policy pursued against Germany by Britain's Bomber Command in 1942-1945. The city has never regained its pre-war population of 630,000.
One popular charge against the bombing is that the city was not a military target. However, other evidence suggests otherwise; The city contained the Zeiss-Ikon optical factory and the Siemens glass factory (both of which were entirely devoted to manufacturing military gunsights). The immediate suburbs contained factories building components of radars and electronics, and fuses for anti-aircraft shells. Other factories produced gas masks, engines for Junkers aircraft and cockpit parts for Messerschmitt fighters. After the attack, Germany was to claim that Dresden's industry was only making civil goods, a notion which much of the world accepted, and still accepts, as true.
Nearly all the major cities in Germany had at least one industry that could be legitimately considered a military target, and Dresden had more than one.
Otherwise I agree with you, you use whatever weapons you can, against whatever targets you have to, and you do it before they kill *you*.
SB
They forgot to mention the steady 20-50mph+ crosswinds containing copious amounts of dust/soil from the Rockies :)
SB
Sorry, no, the Tusken Raiders are wearing suits now, and working in Hollywood. As much as they bemoan the death of their desert culture, they realized the benefits involved in becoming Corporate Raiders.
pool of Huttese
*cough* Rosie? *cough*
SB
While these web pages say that they re-entered the Earth's atmosphere, my understanding was that they were pushed out of Earth orbit by solar forces, due to their low mass/area ratio.
:-)
Interesting. I would think that molecular diffusion thru the Echo's "skins" would have deflated them long before they were pushed out of orbit thru interaction with the solar wind - also, as the Echo sats orbited in a nearly equatorial orbit, the forces on them wouldn't have necessarily accelerated them at all times.
Have any references for your thought there? Curious mind wants to know...
SB
PS - Solar wind particles can also act as an accelerative force, it just depends on which direction your sail is headed. Oh, and the whole Thomas Gold spectacle was hilarious
Well Bah Humbug to you, too, Mr. Scrooge. If you think that dreams aren't important, you've lost sight of the true meaning and goals of science.
Research doesn't *have* to have practical offshoots, you know. If that policy was canon thruout history, we'd still be at the level of chipped stone knives.
Experimentation is what has brought us to where we are right now - if we kill it (and the attempts are being made by people who want to keep the status quo, not saying you are one, but your rhetoric belongs in that category) then how will we advance? Where do the discoveries come from?
Oh, if it has no goal other than life extension, it's useless?
SB
Damn, that was well put; that's exactly it.
CPU time sharing is voluntary; As you put it, most of those other projects have some or another company doing it because they see potential profit. I've found it interesting and infuriating that people argue "But you should be running *this* instead of *that*. What I do on my computer is *my* choice. Whether or not, and how, it benefits the human race is entirely a subjective opinion.
Hey - Thanks, NanoGator.
SB
Often I think that it'll be some amateur analysis that finds an important signal. Not to put the SETI research group down, but they are necessarily limited to a limited set of filters. It's entirely possible that there are signals out there that don't fit their criteria.
:)
.sah files?
:)
I'm sure you know how comet detection has become an amateur industry.
I don't have time to do the analysis you do; but thanks for the link - hadn't seen baudline nor had time to play with it. Questions:
Is there a simple script one could build on for analyzing
Have you found peaks at the obvious lines? In that respect I wonder if another civ with a different approach to astrophysics might not be using other bands to communicate.
By trough at 1.4 I assume you're talking about cellphones?
By all means, if you can find the time, make that webpage.
SB
(An amateur with little time to play, but seriously interested - forgive me my ignorance?
Perhaps we need a distributed computing project that parses election year rhetoric for hypocritical statements.
SB
The real advances in astronomy came out of more advanced mathematical structures that could accurately describe observations.
Who's to say that isn't the case here? Ptolemy, Newton, Einstein, Bohr...??
SB
50% Informative, 50% Funny
I'll take Funny for the grandparent post for a karma hit, Alex.
SB
I always hated those Step Up, Step Down tests. So damned hard, and you're exhausted at the end; then they want you to *work* even! Sheese, what a cruel universe...
SB
I hope so. It might give the Western world (aka the US) a sorely needed kick in the pants.
If we leave aside exploration - which is important for it's own sake - there's the fact that domination of space would be a military trump card; witness the huge impact that just intelligence satellites have made.
Treaties or no, a solid launch/travel capability in space has been and is going to be one of the next contentions for superpower status. Having weaopnry in orbit that can strike within two hours of an alert, with little danger of retaliation, is an absolutely priceless military asset. We may not be able to do that economically now, but we certainly will be able to do so within the next few decades.
SB