There are no mid-level jobs advertised for people with no/little experience. I'm in the same boat as you are, except I didn't get the job out of college.
If you don't have a network of friends/contacts looking for a job for you, you won't get a mid-level job.
You're going to have to start at the bottom; currently I'm working for temp agencies. Sure, sometimes I'm stuffing envelopes, but right now I'm doing Access/Excel development. They brought me in to do someone's brain-dead job while they were in the hospital, and I asked them every day for extra work to do. Now is my chance to show them what I can do. If I get lucky, I might be able to get a job out of this. If not, I'll have developed my skills by working.
You can't hack an M1 Abrams for running 40Mph at %75 degree climbing. Or cant pump moore air to better controls for helicopters.
Oh really? Why not? The helicopters I worked on in the Air Force used Jet engines for power. Those are designed to work at certain altitudes. You CAN have them adjusted, or replaced with high altitude versions. If the atmosphere is too thin, what's wrong with replacing the rotor blades with bigger ones? This is the core of Engineering, finding your way around problems to get the results you want.
Afgan Mucahits shotdown more than 400 helicopters. Most of them Hind class
Then we won't send in our helicopters in until we have a countermeasure that works against the missiles they're using. How will they replace their supplies anyway? No one will sell them replacement rockets or guns while the US is there.
If they're smart, they won't fight us at all, just run and hide and wait for us to go away.
This situation is unlike anything we've ever done before. I hope for the best, for everybody.
1-) More than %75 percent of land mass is mountain. Means your Abrams's, Bradley's, hummers wont work there.
2-) Altitude is too high. Mean your Cobras, Apaches, Comanches is useless. They like turkey. Easy to shot down.
So? You think the US military won't get as much equipment working as they can? They will make modifications, discard things that don't work, bring in stuff that does. The hummers pretty much go everywhere we want to go.
2-) For most Afghan noting to loose. Look the US troops. They had Families, Homes, Cars, Food, Money etc. Losing USA troops rises the Anti War efforts in USA. Losing Afghans rises the revenge efforts in all Muslim Country's. Day by day Your troops lose their concentrate. They thinks "Whatta hell around here, why I'm fighting here?".
It's called being a PROFESSIONAL soldier. Afghans have nothing to loose, the Americans do, yet they keep on going to far off countries, fighting, and dying there.
They don't do it because God told them to either.
What is the main religion of Iraqi forces again? Didn't they surrender by the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS?
3-) Afghanistan is not paradise area. Everything is enemy. They come in night hit your bases, kill your troops. And retreat.
Then your troops counter attack, but they did not found anything to destroy. Mucahit's hide. Then next night.....
Really? You might look up the concept of "Night Vision" Not only are these "Night raiders" going to be plainly visible, but they are going to be blind in comparison to the US troops. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the drug trade could be shut down completely if they enforce a night curfew.
4-) Sending Elite forces is mean less. Because there are no real Target. No base, near noting.
Yeah, except those terrorists. You know, the whole reason the US is going there to begin with?
The problem is that this country is fertile ground for terrorists. I think the only way to prevent that is to actually go in and BUILD up the area. You were talking about how they have nothing to loose and would fight to the death.
Who knows, maybe the US military will give them something to live for. Teach them how to farm again or something.
Um, easy. Look up flight times. Have all 16 guys in the same room. Break them up into 4 groups and tell them what to do. Give them cash to buy plane tickets and get pilot trained.
Ta da. They didn't do this in a day. By planning way in advance you can avoid using communication tech.
I had the same trouble after my fancy computer desk got destroyed in a move. After looking around and seeing the cost for substandard desks, I just went to the office supply store. I bought an 8' folding table, like the kind you use in school or government functions. TONS of room underneath it also. When I move again, I won't have to disassemble anything, just fold up the legs and I'm good to go.
Sturdy.
60$.
I bought a second one for a workbench. The office stores deliver for free also.
Here's a bizarre idea. How about having a few cheap "ENTRY LEVEL" positions? That way you can fill them with smart capable people who don't have the experience for cheap. Then when you're experienced person leaves/dies/explodes you're not left in a lurch.
Sheesh. You're treating people like machines (Find person with skill X, insert into tab B) instead of biological systems that can grow into a worthwhile employee.
It's amazing how almost all other career fields have something like this, and IT doesn't.
I second that vote! Those books are excellent and I'm surprised that, ugh, Harry Potter, won a Hugo.
Oh, wait; did you see the author of the Harry Potter series? Whoa, hot, young, curvaceous blonde. Maybe she'll bounce up and down in her excitement.
After all the fuss, I went and bought a Harry Potter book. Aimed at a 5th grade reading level, and kind of boring. I'm surprised how popular it was with adults though.
It's embarrasing that Harry Potter now ranks up there with books like Hyperion and Ender's Game.
I don't think this is like the railroad system at all. When they built those railroads, you could actually buy a train ticket and USE them. I'm curious as to how anyone could use the Dark fiber that we now have a glut of.
Without the equipment on both sides lighting it up, dark fiber is useless.
Bush was struggling with the political fallout from^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the difficult moral question of eggs which were fertilized in laboratories.
This is pretty much it. I think it was one of his platform promises to prevent stem cells from being used. What's that? Stem cells may provide miracles of medical science? And the Baby boomers are getting older?
Give me a break. If there are layoffs and they want to get rid of you, they'll come up with something. Be it email or the time you punched in 1 minute late. The email rules are there to protect THEM, and to put you in your place if needed.
When the DCMA eventually is challenged in court, the good guys will need all the ammo they can get.
If you say the DCMA squelches free speech, you're going to need examples, proof, like this situation. I hope many more researchers announce that they fear to publish because of the DCMA.
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Damn free market system!
I'll kill the poster that made you mad for 10$
So, doesn't IIS install as default when you install Windows?
Wouldn't the ultimate security be: Don't install it with the OS as default?
Sheesh.
Move? Last I checked, I sit on my ass all day in front of the computer.
What a bunch of snobs. Nsync sells a ton of CDs, though not to the average slashdotter.
I'm curious to see how long this takes to get ripped and distributed.
Heh, I maybe go out and do it just to point out to these guys. They are throwing away their money on these "Copy Protection" schemes.
There are no mid-level jobs advertised for people with no/little experience. I'm in the same boat as you are, except I didn't get the job out of college.
If you don't have a network of friends/contacts looking for a job for you, you won't get a mid-level job.
You're going to have to start at the bottom; currently I'm working for temp agencies. Sure, sometimes I'm stuffing envelopes, but right now I'm doing Access/Excel development. They brought me in to do someone's brain-dead job while they were in the hospital, and I asked them every day for extra work to do. Now is my chance to show them what I can do. If I get lucky, I might be able to get a job out of this. If not, I'll have developed my skills by working.
Of course. EVERYONE has a set of morals and ethics. In this paticular case, mine would involve lying and stealing.
Eh? Develop a skill that's in demand? Ok, so you grab a book on VB, learn it pretty well, and try to get a job.
"You have HOW many years of experence? None? Get the hell out of my office."
How about Peoplesoft, or Oracle? Got a mainframe I could borrow?
You can't hack an M1 Abrams for running 40Mph at %75 degree climbing. Or cant pump moore air to better controls for helicopters.
Oh really? Why not? The helicopters I worked on in the Air Force used Jet engines for power. Those are designed to work at certain altitudes. You CAN have them adjusted, or replaced with high altitude versions. If the atmosphere is too thin, what's wrong with replacing the rotor blades with bigger ones? This is the core of Engineering, finding your way around problems to get the results you want.
Afgan Mucahits shotdown more than 400 helicopters. Most of them Hind class
Then we won't send in our helicopters in until we have a countermeasure that works against the missiles they're using. How will they replace their supplies anyway? No one will sell them replacement rockets or guns while the US is there.
If they're smart, they won't fight us at all, just run and hide and wait for us to go away.
This situation is unlike anything we've ever done before. I hope for the best, for everybody.
1-) More than %75 percent of land mass is mountain. Means your Abrams's, Bradley's, hummers wont work there.
2-) Altitude is too high. Mean your Cobras, Apaches, Comanches is useless. They like turkey. Easy to shot down.
So? You think the US military won't get as much equipment working as they can? They will make modifications, discard things that don't work, bring in stuff that does. The hummers pretty much go everywhere we want to go.
2-) For most Afghan noting to loose. Look the US troops. They had Families, Homes, Cars, Food, Money etc. Losing USA troops rises the Anti War efforts in USA. Losing Afghans rises the revenge efforts in all Muslim Country's. Day by day Your troops lose their concentrate. They thinks "Whatta hell around here, why I'm fighting here?".
It's called being a PROFESSIONAL soldier. Afghans have nothing to loose, the Americans do, yet they keep on going to far off countries, fighting, and dying there.
They don't do it because God told them to either.
What is the main religion of Iraqi forces again? Didn't they surrender by the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS?
3-) Afghanistan is not paradise area. Everything is enemy. They come in night hit your bases, kill your troops. And retreat.
Then your troops counter attack, but they did not found anything to destroy. Mucahit's hide. Then next night.....
Really? You might look up the concept of "Night Vision" Not only are these "Night raiders" going to be plainly visible, but they are going to be blind in comparison to the US troops. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the drug trade could be shut down completely if they enforce a night curfew.
4-) Sending Elite forces is mean less. Because there are no real Target. No base, near noting.
Yeah, except those terrorists. You know, the whole reason the US is going there to begin with?
The problem is that this country is fertile ground for terrorists. I think the only way to prevent that is to actually go in and BUILD up the area. You were talking about how they have nothing to loose and would fight to the death.
Who knows, maybe the US military will give them something to live for. Teach them how to farm again or something.
I don't understand how you stacked motherboards on a rod. Got any pics?
Of course not. You never need a "Round of Layoffs" when so much of your workforce is comprised of temps.
Um, easy. Look up flight times. Have all 16 guys in the same room. Break them up into 4 groups and tell them what to do. Give them cash to buy plane tickets and get pilot trained.
Ta da. They didn't do this in a day. By planning way in advance you can avoid using communication tech.
I had the same trouble after my fancy computer desk got destroyed in a move. After looking around and seeing the cost for substandard desks, I just went to the office supply store. I bought an 8' folding table, like the kind you use in school or government functions. TONS of room underneath it also. When I move again, I won't have to disassemble anything, just fold up the legs and I'm good to go.
Sturdy.
60$.
I bought a second one for a workbench. The office stores deliver for free also.
Here's a bizarre idea. How about having a few cheap "ENTRY LEVEL" positions? That way you can fill them with smart capable people who don't have the experience for cheap. Then when you're experienced person leaves/dies/explodes you're not left in a lurch.
Sheesh. You're treating people like machines (Find person with skill X, insert into tab B) instead of biological systems that can grow into a worthwhile employee.
It's amazing how almost all other career fields have something like this, and IT doesn't.
Just graduated, very frustrated,
Erik Z
Most recently, Kodak
I second that vote! Those books are excellent and I'm surprised that, ugh, Harry Potter, won a Hugo.
Oh, wait; did you see the author of the Harry Potter series? Whoa, hot, young, curvaceous blonde. Maybe she'll bounce up and down in her excitement.
After all the fuss, I went and bought a Harry Potter book. Aimed at a 5th grade reading level, and kind of boring. I'm surprised how popular it was with adults though.
It's embarrasing that Harry Potter now ranks up there with books like Hyperion and Ender's Game.
I don't think this is like the railroad system at all. When they built those railroads, you could actually buy a train ticket and USE them. I'm curious as to how anyone could use the Dark fiber that we now have a glut of.
Without the equipment on both sides lighting it up, dark fiber is useless.
Bush was struggling with the political fallout from^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the difficult moral question of eggs which were fertilized in laboratories.
This is pretty much it. I think it was one of his platform promises to prevent stem cells from being used. What's that? Stem cells may provide miracles of medical science? And the Baby boomers are getting older?
Ah well, politics is compromise.
Wouldn't it be very difficult to keep the panels oriented to towards the sun? Just an amature project after all.
uh, that doesn't fly with me. How many times have you loaned someone your car WITHOUT GIVING HIM THE KEYS?
Give me a break. If there are layoffs and they want to get rid of you, they'll come up with something. Be it email or the time you punched in 1 minute late. The email rules are there to protect THEM, and to put you in your place if needed.
Guys! This is GREAT news.
When the DCMA eventually is challenged in court, the good guys will need all the ammo they can get.
If you say the DCMA squelches free speech, you're going to need examples, proof, like this situation. I hope many more researchers announce that they fear to publish because of the DCMA.
I've never seen a PCMCIA NIC card with LEDs on it.
Unless your work for a company that produces computer games, I don't see this as a problem. The BSA is targeting businesses.
As to the learning curve, when people realize that they can loose their business or their jobs because of this, they pay attention.