I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Bush fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of http://www.georgewbush.com (blocked outside of the U.S) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to explain to me that Bush is doing a great job, the economy is stronger than ever, that he has never made a mistake in judgement, and that America is safer under his fascist rule. 20 minutes. At home, I can see one hundred reasons [thenation.com] why Bush is unfit for duty, which by all standards should be reason for his impeachment. If not worse.
In addition, during this fear driven propaganda-fest, free speech is confused with anti-Americanism. And everything else that has made the US a great place to live has ground to a halt. Even the ill-conceived 'freedom zones' are getting further and further away from this war-happy candidate as I type this, and that is ignoring the massive vote fraud, and voter intimidation.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while listening to mouth-breathers spouting Republican talking points, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Republican machine that has run faster from the truth, all the while tossing 'loyalty pledges' and cease and desist orders at anyone who may disagree, despite the millions of people who share the need to be rid of this administration. My Tandy 102 with 32k of RAM demonstrates more resolve and better judgment than Bush most times. From a leadership standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Bush is a superior candidate for president.
Bush addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to vote for Bush over other more truthful, reasoned, smarter and stable candidates.
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This reminds me of when Apple removed the ability to share songs over the net via iTunes.
Rather than restrict sharing to say, 3 network MAC addresses, they removed the feature altogether.
This seems to be another annoyance for users who just want to stream their iTunes from home to a pals house, or musicians who use the iPod to listen to their own music.
Again, no trouble for those who would like to bypass such restrictions, just a pain in the ass for those who use(d) these features legitimately.
(This comes from someone who has never played an MMPORG, as I've got enough subscription-based services to take care of, like electricity, food, web access, and smokes.)
Of course, like every other non-american, I'm desperately hoping Bush loses
This guy is not from the US, and details the reasons why he is *for* Bush winning. I may not agree with everything he has to say, but it is well reasoned and not a generic, "FOUR MOR YEARS!!!" post or a rabid response to my admittedly trollish post. (It certainly brought out more useful discussion than I thought it would.)
There are several posts worth looking at there; just thought I'd point out one of the more articulate 'pro-Bush' posts I've seen on/.
Actually, I got this link off Bush's site. Went there and started laughing. I seriously would not put it past Rove to get this 'vote' fixed. For some people, hearing these 'predictions' are enough to decide their vote.
Bush wins because he's got a brother in one of the most contested states in the country, Diebold is counting and tabulating, and the 'lost ballots' are ever-increasing.
Bush is cheating - and this fraud screws up the natural order of things.
This looks to be reverse cause and effect? The Redskins lost *because* Kerry wins. It makes perfect sense when coupled with Hawking's views on gravitationally depressed chronospaces.
I find this to be intriguing - yet dangerous, as it is not wise to play with local cosmic areola.
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Kerry's honest? he's a politician! Bush is no Honest Abe, but "honesty" isn't what I see in either of these two.
By all means, never have I suggested that any politician was honest. I think maybe ever.
And didn't I just say that I thought Iraq was the right thing to do? Persisting in Iraq is not "persisting in a wrong".I would say it is wrong, as it was a war waged under false pretense, then rationalized with 'we're better off'. So, I should be cool, then. Right?
Who's remaining silent about Tyranny now? Is PATRIOT tyranny? Kerry voted for it. IF he had real objections to it, he'd have voted against it. Like i said to point one, he's a politician. You believe Kerry but not Bush?
I never should have brought up Kerry, as I'm not real hot about defending him; I will say that the mis-named PATRIOT act is not tyranny, but it is a good start. It is a framework that could be readily built on, and what is there makes that process even easier. Kerry has said he'll 'revisit' the PATRIOT act. Bush has basically spilled his wad over it as is, and wants to add to it. I believe both of them.
Furthermore, Bush has painted himself as someone who will never (publically) change his mind, even when wrong. I have heard Kerry say he's made a mistake, and that he was wrong about some things.
Thanks, but the world's got enough Gods in the sky, without encouraging a self-styled one here on earth. Point to not-Bush.
I am sure you aren't lying - why would you bother? My comment referred to those who put us in Iraq.
I truly wonder if the end result of all this will be a freer Iraq. This is a war we can't win, because it won't ever end. The 'results' we've gotten are suspect and perhaps transitory - you mentioned nation building, and how Japan and Germany worked, Somalia didn't. How long were Japan and Germany occupied? Will Bush have the stamina and ethic to stay in Iraq, for *their* people and not his personal gain? Does the US?
And what happened to Afgahnistan? Where's our freedom bringing presence there, and why hasn't the Bush administration pushed all the good works we're doing there?
It's a very different world now, with very different people, and maybe that's why.
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1. 'War of Choice' + dollar amount = wasted money. You ignore the important part.
2. I'll give you the Humvees, but there is certainly discretionary funds for body armor. See 1 and 9.
3. The people that are IN Iraq are the ones most stridently saying they are 'understaffed'. Wouldn't they know by now?
4,5.I read it. I think it is a well written account of one guy's experience, but kind of reinforces the whole 'why are we there' issue.
6. I can't speak to the 'every ship' statement, as I have never before seen a such a banner on a ship, nor heard of the practice . Not that I've looked at hundreds of ship pictues or anything. Considering what a major photo-op that whole thing was, I'm going to say that it was planned just like every other thing that happened that day.
7. I can't dispute the casual relations, nor find a compelling source to confirm this. I guess I'm still waiting for us to go after the Saudis, as the actual people who bit it in the WTC attack were Saudi. Osama is Saudi. Where's Encyclopedia Brown when you need him? Perhaps he can find out what happened to the investigation into the people who yanked out tons of $$$ out of the stock market in the days before 9/11?
8. I read it, and two other articles and it seems that it is still up in the air.
9. I don't get it either. They got the $$$, why not spend it? What are they waiting for? Iran?
10. Well, there's this, which came out today...I obviously have no access to the Sat images, so am unable to check for myself.
Yes, it goes on and on. And on
1, 2, 3. They're terrorists. That's what they do, I guess.
Frankly, I know that terrorists et al are not caused by the policies of GW. However, It would be pretty hard to argue that he hasn't exacerbated conditions that were preexisting, and perhaps caused in no small measure by his father.
I hope you appreciate the fact I've actually responded to your post, even though you may argue that I didn't answer your concerns. You did manage to suck the life out of me, though, so this round goes to you, sir. Excellent work!
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You might be interested some other quotes by good ol' Thomas Jefferson:
"Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom."
"It is more honorable to repair a wrong than to persist in it"
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to = remain silent."
....a certain amount of obligation to the Weak to help them out of oppression. Pick them up and stand them on their own two feet.
Fine. Be honest about it. Don't manufacture reasons. Admit when you're wrong, and stop trying to create here what you propose to destroy elsewhere. That said, Bush had four years to prove he could make the country better and failed. Badly. And Kerry has said that it is time to scale the Patriot act back, unlike the current admin, who thinks it should be stronger. (Not that I'm advocating Kerry.)
You might want to re-evaluate your vote. Or not. Don't make your decision based on a/. post.
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Isn't that like getting stung by a wasp, then destroying a honeybee's nest to keep you safer from stings? The honeybees didn't sting you, but you have to attack them, because they *could* sting you!
Not to mention there is delicious honey inside! Mmmm, Honey.
What the hell, they all sting, don't they. Question Mark.
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I could go on for hours, but these will do for now. What is it about Bush that has you pitching a tent?
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I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Bush fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of http://www.georgewbush.com/ (blocked outside of the U.S) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to explain to me that Bush is doing a great job, the economy is stronger than ever, that he has never made a mistake in judgement, and that America is safer under his fascist rule. 20 minutes. At home, I can see one hundred reasons why Bush is unfit for duty, which by all standards should be reason for his impeachment. If not worse.
In addition, during this fear driven propaganda-fest, free speech is confused with anti-Americanism. And everything else that has made the US a great place to live has ground to a halt. Even the ill-conceived 'freedom zones' are getting further and further away from this war-happy candidate as I type this.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while listening to mouth-breathers spouting Republican talking points, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Republican machine that has run faster from the truth, all the while tossing 'loyalty pledges' and cease and desist orders at anyone who may disagree, despite the millions of people who share the need to be rid of this administration. My Tandy 102 with 32k of RAM demonstrates more resolve and better judgment than Bush most times. From a leadership standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Bush is a superior candidate for president.
Bush addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to vote for Bush over other more truthful, reasoned, smarter and stable candidates.
You know, the reality-TV driven, oh,oh,oh who's winning on 'The Bachelor' tonight, did you hear about 'Survivor' last night person.
2000 was the first time I ever cared about politics, and I got that feeling then, too.
Is everyone in the US *truly* this dumb to vote for a guy who has done nothing *for* us and everything *to* us?
The 2nd Amendment is looking better every day.
It's Giant Douche v.s. Turd Sandwitch.
It looks like Turd Sandwitch may take it right now, but it's really going to be up to the Washington Racist Football Team.
In addition, during this fear driven propaganda-fest, free speech is confused with anti-Americanism. And everything else that has made the US a great place to live has ground to a halt. Even the ill-conceived 'freedom zones' are getting further and further away from this war-happy candidate as I type this, and that is ignoring the massive vote fraud, and voter intimidation.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while listening to mouth-breathers spouting Republican talking points, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Republican machine that has run faster from the truth, all the while tossing 'loyalty pledges' and cease and desist orders at anyone who may disagree, despite the millions of people who share the need to be rid of this administration. My Tandy 102 with 32k of RAM demonstrates more resolve and better judgment than Bush most times. From a leadership standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Bush is a superior candidate for president.
Bush addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to vote for Bush over other more truthful, reasoned, smarter and stable candidates. --
Oh, wait. That was last time.
I thought about hiring Giuliani to say, "He meant Mac serial numbers", but I know I would have busted by the /. Truth Squads for sure. ;)
Rather than restrict sharing to say, 3 network MAC addresses, they removed the feature altogether.
This seems to be another annoyance for users who just want to stream their iTunes from home to a pals house, or musicians who use the iPod to listen to their own music.
Again, no trouble for those who would like to bypass such restrictions, just a pain in the ass for those who use(d) these features legitimately.
If Turd Sandwitch wins, that'll be 'Freedom Rinse' to you.
(This comes from someone who has never played an MMPORG, as I've got enough subscription-based services to take care of, like electricity, food, web access, and smokes.)
So sayeth the Book of Wisdom!
So, like, get going. You've got like 12,795,020,360 eyes to cast away...
Flavor Flav called. He wants royalies.
This guy is not from the US, and details the reasons why he is *for* Bush winning. I may not agree with everything he has to say, but it is well reasoned and not a generic, "FOUR MOR YEARS!!!" post or a rabid response to my admittedly trollish post. (It certainly brought out more useful discussion than I thought it would.)
There are several posts worth looking at there; just thought I'd point out one of the more articulate 'pro-Bush' posts I've seen on /.
Actually, I got this link off Bush's site. Went there and started laughing. I seriously would not put it past Rove to get this 'vote' fixed. For some people, hearing these 'predictions' are enough to decide their vote.
Everyone wants to be right.
Bush is cheating - and this fraud screws up the natural order of things.
This looks to be reverse cause and effect? The Redskins lost *because* Kerry wins. It makes perfect sense when coupled with Hawking's views on gravitationally depressed chronospaces.
I find this to be intriguing - yet dangerous, as it is not wise to play with local cosmic areola.
So what is Microsoft's internal corporate license key?
You were robbed. That was a good one. You win!
The first person to fix the exploit will get a FREE GMAIL INVITE!
By all means, never have I suggested that any politician was honest. I think maybe ever.
And didn't I just say that I thought Iraq was the right thing to do? Persisting in Iraq is not "persisting in a wrong".I would say it is wrong, as it was a war waged under false pretense, then rationalized with 'we're better off'. So, I should be cool, then. Right?
Who's remaining silent about Tyranny now? Is PATRIOT tyranny? Kerry voted for it. IF he had real objections to it, he'd have voted against it. Like i said to point one, he's a politician. You believe Kerry but not Bush?
I never should have brought up Kerry, as I'm not real hot about defending him; I will say that the mis-named PATRIOT act is not tyranny, but it is a good start. It is a framework that could be readily built on, and what is there makes that process even easier. Kerry has said he'll 'revisit' the PATRIOT act. Bush has basically spilled his wad over it as is, and wants to add to it. I believe both of them.
Furthermore, Bush has painted himself as someone who will never (publically) change his mind, even when wrong. I have heard Kerry say he's made a mistake, and that he was wrong about some things.
Thanks, but the world's got enough Gods in the sky, without encouraging a self-styled one here on earth. Point to not-Bush.
I am sure you aren't lying - why would you bother? My comment referred to those who put us in Iraq.
I truly wonder if the end result of all this will be a freer Iraq. This is a war we can't win, because it won't ever end. The 'results' we've gotten are suspect and perhaps transitory - you mentioned nation building, and how Japan and Germany worked, Somalia didn't. How long were Japan and Germany occupied? Will Bush have the stamina and ethic to stay in Iraq, for *their* people and not his personal gain? Does the US?
And what happened to Afgahnistan? Where's our freedom bringing presence there, and why hasn't the Bush administration pushed all the good works we're doing there?
It's a very different world now, with very different people, and maybe that's why.
2. I'll give you the Humvees, but there is certainly discretionary funds for body armor. See 1 and 9.
3. The people that are IN Iraq are the ones most stridently saying they are 'understaffed'. Wouldn't they know by now?
4,5.I read it. I think it is a well written account of one guy's experience, but kind of reinforces the whole 'why are we there' issue.
6. I can't speak to the 'every ship' statement, as I have never before seen a such a banner on a ship, nor heard of the practice . Not that I've looked at hundreds of ship pictues or anything. Considering what a major photo-op that whole thing was, I'm going to say that it was planned just like every other thing that happened that day.
7. I can't dispute the casual relations, nor find a compelling source to confirm this. I guess I'm still waiting for us to go after the Saudis, as the actual people who bit it in the WTC attack were Saudi. Osama is Saudi. Where's Encyclopedia Brown when you need him? Perhaps he can find out what happened to the investigation into the people who yanked out tons of $$$ out of the stock market in the days before 9/11?
8. I read it, and two other articles and it seems that it is still up in the air.
9. I don't get it either. They got the $$$, why not spend it? What are they waiting for? Iran?
10. Well, there's this, which came out today...I obviously have no access to the Sat images, so am unable to check for myself.
Yes, it goes on and on. And on
1, 2, 3. They're terrorists. That's what they do, I guess.
Frankly, I know that terrorists et al are not caused by the policies of GW. However, It would be pretty hard to argue that he hasn't exacerbated conditions that were preexisting, and perhaps caused in no small measure by his father.
I hope you appreciate the fact I've actually responded to your post, even though you may argue that I didn't answer your concerns. You did manage to suck the life out of me, though, so this round goes to you, sir. Excellent work!
"It is more honorable to repair a wrong than to persist in it"
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to = remain silent."
....a certain amount of obligation to the Weak to help them out of oppression. Pick them up and stand them on their own two feet.
Fine. Be honest about it. Don't manufacture reasons. Admit when you're wrong, and stop trying to create here what you propose to destroy elsewhere. That said, Bush had four years to prove he could make the country better and failed. Badly. And Kerry has said that it is time to scale the Patriot act back, unlike the current admin, who thinks it should be stronger. (Not that I'm advocating Kerry.)
You might want to re-evaluate your vote. Or not. Don't make your decision based on a /. post.
Not to mention there is delicious honey inside! Mmmm, Honey.
What the hell, they all sting, don't they. Question Mark.
Perhaps you'll find that one reason yet.
I have karma to burn as well. And I want to hear the truth. So tell me: What's the truth?
This?
this?
this?
or this?
I could go on for hours, but these will do for now. What is it about Bush that has you pitching a tent?
In addition, during this fear driven propaganda-fest, free speech is confused with anti-Americanism. And everything else that has made the US a great place to live has ground to a halt. Even the ill-conceived 'freedom zones' are getting further and further away from this war-happy candidate as I type this.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while listening to mouth-breathers spouting Republican talking points, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Republican machine that has run faster from the truth, all the while tossing 'loyalty pledges' and cease and desist orders at anyone who may disagree, despite the millions of people who share the need to be rid of this administration. My Tandy 102 with 32k of RAM demonstrates more resolve and better judgment than Bush most times. From a leadership standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Bush is a superior candidate for president.
Bush addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to vote for Bush over other more truthful, reasoned, smarter and stable candidates.
Hopefully, he'll make it a permanent one.
That is to say a uninformed decision.
Anyone who votes based just on what they find on the websites is an idiot. It's like taking a rapist's word for it that he won't do it again.
The submitter's 'Neither' is telling. Does he know that there are other parties?
Yeah, It's Funny. Laugh.
I would, but I'm sick to my stomach of this fucking election, the 'major' candidates, the rhetoric, and lies.
ha ha.