My point was irony, but that is usually lost on moderators.
I am interested in your decision to buy new CDs. If you had actually lost them (not sold or gave them away), could you have just grabbed them from a p2p?
I make the assumption that you could have lost them under the couch and haven't looked there yet. If you lose something, you don't give up ownership - you've just lost the ability to use the original. Fair Use dictates that you should be able to use your backup (mp3) or space shift it (ogg from p2p).
Is part of the new 'crazy' Russia making me a 'foe' because of a half-baked joke? No offence to Russian people was intended, and I hope you clicked the link - where only an American (me) was harmed in a reference to 80's pop culture.
I don't think that is necessarily the songwriter's 'fault', more likely the producer.
Compare 'I Saw the Sign' and "All That She Wants" by Ace of Base. Most likely there was a push for the second since the first did well. That (I hope) also explains movie sequels like 'Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit'.
However two versions of the same song can sound substantially different or wholly unlike if performed by different artist. Example : Sonic Youth/The Carpenters - 'Superstar'.
Why can't we have a sliding scale, where if a corporation wants to hold onto copyright longer than the default, they pay some nontrivial amount of money every few years past the default time in order to renew.
Because the 'nontrival' amount would end up being trivial after the lobbyists have done their job on our oh-so-easily swayed congress. That's the way it works, sadly.
I had an aluminum RC10 for awhile - great fun, but comparing the pro RC/ with these cars is like comparing an Audi TT with a Geo Metro. The Audi will whup the metro, but when all you want to do is go to the grocery store and buy cheese, the Geo will do fine.
Besides, just a motor for an RC10 approached the price of one of these cars. (However, when I broke a steering link on my RC10, I could actually replace it!)
I have some track from the old Aurora *slotless* race set (I still have some cars, but the tires rotted away - damn 70's disintergrating foam). These look like they would work great on this track (the track has a retaining wall on both sides).
Probably not as manuverable as the old cars (the old cars would drive the opposite wheel of the lane that they were in, pinning them to that wall.)
Had to be one of the more fun pursuits of my childhood. I recall racing with the Star Wars set - an X-wing fighter and Darth Vaders Tie Fighter. If the Tie rear ended the X-wing, the top would pop off and the Dark side won the day. I still have those cars..x-tra fun with the 'Jam Car' a Corvette that would drive around and randomly change lanes.
Does anyone know the dimensions of these cars? My idea wouldn't work if cars can't pass each other. Either that or a parts source for the old cars..;)
OT?: Does anyone remember the Fat Wheels? An RC car with inflatable wheels that would bounce like hell. Great fun.
I'm sorry to tell you this story is a scam. This is what happens when you beat the Russians at Cribbage. They're just trying to repay their gambling debts.
Well, I was on the International Space Station playing cribbage with one of the Russian guys when he decided to get a snack.
"LUNCH, NOT LAUNCH!" I yelled as he absent-mindedly pushed the button that freed the living quarters from the rest of the station.
....um, right now I'm falling. Yup. Falling fast. It's pretty warm in here. Whew. Better put on a t-shirt.
Ok. I'm looking out the window. Hey! I see clouds! Cool. That looks like mountains over there... I wonder if 3pojjaet8rj['[545$YW#$#..
sw245ll./// ./#%.
Ok. I seem to have crashed. I can't move my legs. Could someone please get me an asprin? I'll try to walk. Oh God! The pain... it's excruciating! Ow. I think my leg just snapped. Ow. Ow. Ow.
Ironically I made money by playing cover songs. But that's just between you and me.;)
So you are for the complete freedom of intellectual 'property' (for lack of a better word).
Now the Devil's Advocate in me asks what you do for a living, since I can't help but think you might feel differently if you were an 'author'...
To be fair, I personally saw the end of copyright when Napster was just starting up and I heard you could pretty much find whatever you wanted on there. My idea of the music 'buisiness' took a sharp turn on that day. I realized that mp3s and p2p were going to shake things up and mess with a lot of wallets. (not mine, at the time)
Of course, when you are deeply involved with biz and study up on that whole scene, it's tough to let some ideas go.
Entertainers should get paid for entertaining. That doesn't mean they should own the entertainment they produce.
Do you mean to say that when a writer writes a book and publishes it himself, that he no longer owns the story? Granted, the purchased book is yours to do with what you will, but copyright prevents me from slapping my name on it and calling it mine. I wrote about this earlier..here
I DO think I should be able to 'own' a song I write. I wrote it! I labored over it, was not under contract ('write a jingle for Goldfish crackers for us'), and created it out of nothing. If someone wants to share it online, I don't care (talk to me when I'm a rock star, I may feel differently.;) But the song is mine and attributed to me, not the Doobie Brothers or Elliot Smith.
I appreciate the 'twilight zone' confusion of copyright, especially now that it has been pushed into things that it was never meant to deal with, and situations that were not forseen (instant mass publishing) however, I believe copyright is a useful thing for what it was originally intended to do: Protect an authors work from plagarism and allow the author of a work exclusive use of it for a *limited* amount of time.
A quote I read the other day was, "Copyright in America seems to be extended whenever Micky Mouse is about to fall into public domain." That's what I hate.
BTW; I have not sued anyone for copyright infrigement, nor been sued, but there is always hope - bad artists borrow, good artists steal.:)
whenever I see stuff like this: Instead of using blowers, natural wind could be used to generate the airflow. If the laminar unit and fog nozzles are suspended over a bridge or such constructions, enormous vertical and/or horizontal fog screens become possible under suitable weather conditions.
C'mon, get a job? Is that to say that actors, comedians, writers, and freakin' jugglers don't work? Or that they should 'get a job' too? Or that if they do these things they should not get paid? What constitutes a job? Coding software? Digging ditches?
I 'worked' for two years as a musician(only - no day job), and it was hard work and rewarding ($$ and otherwise).
Fun is fun, but people should get paid for entertainment. It's their time and talent in exchange for your money.
Hmm. That sounds a lot like my day job.
Forgive me, but when I hear 'get a real job' I about have to smack the person (who most likely has never even attempted what I do - drunken kararoke doesn't count)
To respond to the body of your post, I have purchased one cd in the past 3 years. The mp3 'revolution' has pretty much been ignored by yours truly.
However, I do buy records. Will you argue that the RI has lost a sale because I didn't go out and purchase a new CD? None of that money I spend at thrift stores and garage sales finds its way to artists, labels, or distributors. Yet I get to hear lots of great music for 50 cents an album. Would I have purchased the same album on CD for 9-17 dollars? No.
CDs ARE too expensive. Recent 'Big Label' music is for the most part uninspired and focus group driven. Radio has been taken over by a marketing company. Whether or not you agree with me doesn't change the fact that the RIAA is trying to remove my ability to create and distribute my own music. They are trying to kill first sale rights (allows used cd/record stores.) and fair use (my ability to copy a CD FOR MY OWN USE).
They are extending copyrights far longer than most people live. They are looking out for their OWN interests, yet still want me to eat up the insipid pap they ram down the public's throat.
I make music. So do many others. The RIAA would have it that I would have to go through them (certificates, licencing, copy-restrictions) no matter what I want for the music I create.
To answer your subject's question: "What is wrong with Copyrights?"
Nothing. Copyrights were 'invented' to give an author of a work exclusive use of his/her work for a *limited* amount of time. The copyright would expire after the author had had ample time to make money from their creation. The work would then be placed in the public domain and others could use it as they saw fit. The work could be changed, reworked and released as a wholly new creation. Copyrights prevented someone from taking a work, placing their name on it, and calling it their own. These are the things that copyright was intended for. Your subject and the post that follows are two separate issues.
Copying a CD is not the same as shoplifting a CD. It is the difference between removing a physical item and duplicating a physical item.
(Simile time) The first is like stealing a dollar. The second is counterfeiting a dollar.
I agree that either one denies the author of the work his/her due payment for making the work available. (They didn't have to)
Long winded rant over. Mod to your heart's content.
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I am interested in your decision to buy new CDs. If you had actually lost them (not sold or gave them away), could you have just grabbed them from a p2p?
I make the assumption that you could have lost them under the couch and haven't looked there yet. If you lose something, you don't give up ownership - you've just lost the ability to use the original. Fair Use dictates that you should be able to use your backup (mp3) or space shift it (ogg from p2p).
Or does it?
Incidentally, this should be on the front page...
Oh yeah, before I forget, stop killing the old people right before I get old. Thanks.
It was called the Big Trak, and I think that's what was used to host the (currently /.ed) website.
Is part of the new 'crazy' Russia making me a 'foe' because of a half-baked joke? No offence to Russian people was intended, and I hope you clicked the link - where only an American (me) was harmed in a reference to 80's pop culture.
Compare 'I Saw the Sign' and "All That She Wants" by Ace of Base. Most likely there was a push for the second since the first did well. That (I hope) also explains movie sequels like 'Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit'.
However two versions of the same song can sound substantially different or wholly unlike if performed by different artist. Example : Sonic Youth/The Carpenters - 'Superstar'.
Pop will eat itself, then crap all over.
Because the 'nontrival' amount would end up being trivial after the lobbyists have done their job on our oh-so-easily swayed congress. That's the way it works, sadly.
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Besides, just a motor for an RC10 approached the price of one of these cars. (However, when I broke a steering link on my RC10, I could actually replace it!)
Probably not as manuverable as the old cars (the old cars would drive the opposite wheel of the lane that they were in, pinning them to that wall.)
Had to be one of the more fun pursuits of my childhood. I recall racing with the Star Wars set - an X-wing fighter and Darth Vaders Tie Fighter. If the Tie rear ended the X-wing, the top would pop off and the Dark side won the day. I still have those cars..x-tra fun with the 'Jam Car' a Corvette that would drive around and randomly change lanes.
Does anyone know the dimensions of these cars? My idea wouldn't work if cars can't pass each other. Either that or a parts source for the old cars..;)
OT?: Does anyone remember the Fat Wheels? An RC car with inflatable wheels that would bounce like hell. Great fun.
Space is only for the elite, for now.
I'm sorry to tell you this story is a scam. This is what happens when you beat the Russians at Cribbage. They're just trying to repay their gambling debts.
"LUNCH, NOT LAUNCH!" I yelled as he absent-mindedly pushed the button that freed the living quarters from the rest of the station.
Ok. I'm looking out the window. Hey! I see clouds! Cool. That looks like mountains over there... I wonder if 3pojjaet8rj['[545$YW#$#..
sw245ll.///
./#%.
Ok. I seem to have crashed. I can't move my legs. Could someone please get me an asprin? I'll try to walk. Oh God! The pain... it's excruciating! Ow. I think my leg just snapped. Ow. Ow. Ow.
So you are for the complete freedom of intellectual 'property' (for lack of a better word).
Now the Devil's Advocate in me asks what you do for a living, since I can't help but think you might feel differently if you were an 'author'...
To be fair, I personally saw the end of copyright when Napster was just starting up and I heard you could pretty much find whatever you wanted on there. My idea of the music 'buisiness' took a sharp turn on that day. I realized that mp3s and p2p were going to shake things up and mess with a lot of wallets. (not mine, at the time)
Of course, when you are deeply involved with biz and study up on that whole scene, it's tough to let some ideas go.
Do you mean to say that when a writer writes a book and publishes it himself, that he no longer owns the story? Granted, the purchased book is yours to do with what you will, but copyright prevents me from slapping my name on it and calling it mine. I wrote about this earlier..here
I DO think I should be able to 'own' a song I write. I wrote it! I labored over it, was not under contract ('write a jingle for Goldfish crackers for us'), and created it out of nothing. If someone wants to share it online, I don't care (talk to me when I'm a rock star, I may feel differently. ;) But the song is mine and attributed to me, not the Doobie Brothers or Elliot Smith.
I appreciate the 'twilight zone' confusion of copyright, especially now that it has been pushed into things that it was never meant to deal with, and situations that were not forseen (instant mass publishing) however, I believe copyright is a useful thing for what it was originally intended to do: Protect an authors work from plagarism and allow the author of a work exclusive use of it for a *limited* amount of time.
A quote I read the other day was, "Copyright in America seems to be extended whenever Micky Mouse is about to fall into public domain." That's what I hate.
BTW; I have not sued anyone for copyright infrigement, nor been sued, but there is always hope - bad artists borrow, good artists steal. :)
It's the choice of an old and tired generation!
Chew on this!
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oh I forgot...
2. ???
3. Profit!
Instead of using blowers, natural wind could be used to generate the airflow. If the laminar unit and fog nozzles are suspended over a bridge or such constructions, enormous vertical and/or horizontal fog screens become possible under suitable weather conditions.
Madison Ave has just creamed their Calvin Klines.
Please mod this down to -2. It hurts me to see my parent post suffer.
I 'worked' for two years as a musician(only - no day job), and it was hard work and rewarding ($$ and otherwise).
Fun is fun, but people should get paid for entertainment. It's their time and talent in exchange for your money.
Hmm. That sounds a lot like my day job.
Forgive me, but when I hear 'get a real job' I about have to smack the person (who most likely has never even attempted what I do - drunken kararoke doesn't count)
when the phones go to a single chip. In our head.
That would be fast as hell, secure (no hard drive) and (free, free and free). You can type all you want in the notepad on Yahoo.
All hail AC!
Why exactly would these people want to spend money on a win95 licence for each machine?
Otherwise it be great except for the security holes and virus propagation.
Why did you recommend 95 again?
He would love it more if it was powered by cocaine. He will of course veto the prezel powered fuel cells.
However, I do buy records. Will you argue that the RI has lost a sale because I didn't go out and purchase a new CD? None of that money I spend at thrift stores and garage sales finds its way to artists, labels, or distributors. Yet I get to hear lots of great music for 50 cents an album. Would I have purchased the same album on CD for 9-17 dollars? No.
CDs ARE too expensive. Recent 'Big Label' music is for the most part uninspired and focus group driven. Radio has been taken over by a marketing company. Whether or not you agree with me doesn't change the fact that the RIAA is trying to remove my ability to create and distribute my own music. They are trying to kill first sale rights (allows used cd/record stores.) and fair use (my ability to copy a CD FOR MY OWN USE).
They are extending copyrights far longer than most people live. They are looking out for their OWN interests, yet still want me to eat up the insipid pap they ram down the public's throat.
I make music. So do many others. The RIAA would have it that I would have to go through them (certificates, licencing, copy-restrictions) no matter what I want for the music I create.
To answer your subject's question: "What is wrong with Copyrights?"
Nothing. Copyrights were 'invented' to give an author of a work exclusive use of his/her work for a *limited* amount of time. The copyright would expire after the author had had ample time to make money from their creation. The work would then be placed in the public domain and others could use it as they saw fit. The work could be changed, reworked and released as a wholly new creation. Copyrights prevented someone from taking a work, placing their name on it, and calling it their own. These are the things that copyright was intended for. Your subject and the post that follows are two separate issues.
Copying a CD is not the same as shoplifting a CD. It is the difference between removing a physical item and duplicating a physical item.
(Simile time) The first is like stealing a dollar. The second is counterfeiting a dollar.
I agree that either one denies the author of the work his/her due payment for making the work available. (They didn't have to)
Long winded rant over. Mod to your heart's content.