I would have agreed with you a few months ago, but just recently many Dallas suburbs instituted automated red light ticketing cameras. There's been hardly a peep of protest.
Being able to show probable cause, when you ALREADY have evidence that the suspect has committed a crime, isn't fascism.
Yes, but normal activities as a crime (i.e. using the appropriations process to get funds for government projects) and using that reason to prosecute every member of Congress is.
I'm not saying that congresscritters shouldn't be prosecuted for committing criminal acts.
Someone "reports sounds of gunshots." Rayburn building shut down, with no one allowed to enter or leave. (Most House offices are there.) Entire building searched.
A conservative national talk show host has a prescription drug problem.
A conservative national talk show host who constantly rails about the evils of drug abuse and how worthless drug addicts are has a prescription drug problem. Your point?
A liberal Senator has a prescription drug problem
Um. He's a Representative.
The story in mentioned on the day it happened, and pretty much disappears after that.
Now, ignoring partisanship for a bit longer: Which of these is actually more important?
I dunno, maybe a conservative talk show host who has been railing against drug addicts for DECADES having an illegal drug problem is news. Ya think? At the very least it makes a good story. And that, sadly, is what the news is all about these days.
Can any of you older men/women actually sit there and imagine doing something at home outside of school time, and then getting in trouble for it in school...
Well, I'm not in school, but if I smoke a joint on the weekend and my employer decides to give me a pee test any time in the next six months, I'll be fired. They can do it at any time, and it's perfectly legal for them to do so.
Companies have directly plotted to murder a percentage of the population in some towns and gotten away with paying less in fines than it would have cost them to avoid killing the people in the first place.
There's a difference between killing a few unimportant villagers and messing with the government's stuff.
The whistle-blower, Klein, so far doesn't seem to have produced any evidence that AT&T and the NSA are actively spying without court orders, just that they could.
So, what's all the fuss about? Why was there a gag order on this information?
Seems that somebody thinks that this information reveals something important, and I figure they know a lot more than you...
just look up his call records for the last couple of weeks and they can find out for themselves.
Oh, I'd love it if the government would use it's secret domestic spying ability to intervene on behalf of a private corporation in a lawsuit. That'd be keen.
The Democrats are just as evil as the Republicans.
Bullshit.
Name one period in history where this has happened when the Democrats held all od the power.
Yes, there are craven power seekers in the Democratic party. They're politicians, after all. But there is one essential thing lacking on the Democratic side: absolute party unity. Republicans have it, Democrats don't.
I consider myself to the left of the spectrum. I have been a registered Democrat at times. Today I learned that a Democratic representative took a bribe. You know what my immediate reaction is? Prosecute the bastard. When it comes to criminals I have no party loyalty. More often than not (and we've seen it in the whole Abramoff debacle) the reaction of Republicans is to circle the wagon, no matter how despicable the behavior. This is not something I see nearly as much on the Democratic side.
This is so far the lone voice of truth in a herd of anti-Java zealots. The guy obviously asked this question to get reinforcement for his objections to the switch. I mean really? What other answer did he expect from/. ?
An anonymous reader writes "Businesses and individuals in Britain may soon have to use clear, non opaque envelopes when using the postal service or face imprisonment. The UK government has said it will bring in the new powers to address a rise in the use of opaque mail transport methods by criminals and terrorists." From the article: "I mean really!" exclaims one patriot, "A postcard or plastic envelope should be fine for any law abiding citizen. What do these perverts have to hide, anyway?"
You wouldn't let a government agent swing by every morning and look at all the mailing addresses on letters going to/from your house, why the hell would you let them do the same to your phone records?
How about some other examples:
* You're interviewed once a week to see who you've talked to. (polygraph not optional...) * All of your trash is tagged and sent in for inspection. * Cameras and microphones are installed outside your front door to record your activity.
These would be considered unacceptable. (Except for the last one in the UK, apparently.)
But consider where things are going. In about a decade it will probably be possible to process all phone audio in real time. In about 20 years active brain scan technology should make foolproof real time lie detection possible. (It's almost there now, just not real time.) In 50 years it should be easy to robotically sift through everyone's trash, recognize, categorize, and catalog the contents.
The question is whether we'll want to do these things, not whether we'll be able. How we react now will affect the decisions of future generations...
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I would have agreed with you a few months ago, but just recently many Dallas suburbs instituted automated red light ticketing cameras. There's been hardly a peep of protest.
China has 35 people for every one of ours, so they could invade with nothing but chopsticks and probably win.
It also means we could do 35x more human damage with a single nuclear strike.
Being able to show probable cause, when you ALREADY have evidence that the suspect has committed a crime, isn't fascism.
Yes, but normal activities as a crime (i.e. using the appropriations process to get funds for government projects) and using that reason to prosecute every member of Congress is.
I'm not saying that congresscritters shouldn't be prosecuted for committing criminal acts.
I want them expanded by several hundred agents and to have what happened to Jefferson to happen to the entire Congress.
Seems like you've gotten your wish.
Someone "reports sounds of gunshots." Rayburn building shut down, with no one allowed to enter or leave. (Most House offices are there.) Entire building searched.
All a false alarm, apparently.
...and the FBI could show probable cause if they wanted to.
Hence my fascism comment.
A conservative national talk show host has a prescription drug problem.
A conservative national talk show host who constantly rails about the evils of drug abuse and how worthless drug addicts are has a prescription drug problem. Your point?
A liberal Senator has a prescription drug problem
Um. He's a Representative.
The story in mentioned on the day it happened, and pretty much disappears after that.
Really?
Now, ignoring partisanship for a bit longer: Which of these is actually more important?
I dunno, maybe a conservative talk show host who has been railing against drug addicts for DECADES having an illegal drug problem is news. Ya think? At the very least it makes a good story. And that, sadly, is what the news is all about these days.
Are you seriously suggesting that Congress is above the laws they themsleves enact?
Um, no. I think it's unreasonable to search the offices of every member of congress, like the post I replied to advocated.
He is admittedly addicted to prescription drugs. That was quietly swept under the rug.
If it was "quietly swept under the rug" why do you know about it? National media sttention: not exactly the definition of "quietly" to me.
I'd consider that some of the best $18 I've ever spent.
$18 to permanently impose a fascist state in the US.
Yep. Money well spent!
In what way does a post on a website that probably can't be visited on school property disrupt classroom activity?
Or, as my daddy used to say, "If there was a pile of shit in the middle of the road, would you walk over and sniff it?"
If there's a pendulum that needs to swing back, it would seem to me that it would swing back on the people that actually did something wrong.
Actually, it should swing back and smack the grandparent poster in the head. That'll learn 'em.
Rich people are actually good for the economy, while poor people are a liability.
And who exactly would make the things the rich people would buy with their money if poor people didn't exist?
Money is nothing without people. Money does not make an economy. People do.
Is it really that hard to move your finger two keys over?
Ys.
Can any of you older men/women actually sit there and imagine doing something at home outside of school time, and then getting in trouble for it in school...
Well, I'm not in school, but if I smoke a joint on the weekend and my employer decides to give me a pee test any time in the next six months, I'll be fired. They can do it at any time, and it's perfectly legal for them to do so.
Type in a sentence you're thinking about. Highlight part of it and bold it. Highlight a different part and hit escape seven times.
ON, I did that. Where's my damn easter egg?
Companies have directly plotted to murder a percentage of the population in some towns and gotten away with paying less in fines than it would have cost them to avoid killing the people in the first place.
There's a difference between killing a few unimportant villagers and messing with the government's stuff.
Sadly.
The secret CIA prisons in Eastern Europe, Carnivore, and Echelon all existed under Clinton.
I look forward to the day when "...but...CLINTON DID IT!" is not a warcry of right wing nutcases.
The whistle-blower, Klein, so far doesn't seem to have produced any evidence that AT&T and the NSA are actively spying without court orders, just that they could.
So, what's all the fuss about? Why was there a gag order on this information?
Seems that somebody thinks that this information reveals something important, and I figure they know a lot more than you...
just look up his call records for the last couple of weeks and they can find out for themselves.
Oh, I'd love it if the government would use it's secret domestic spying ability to intervene on behalf of a private corporation in a lawsuit. That'd be keen.
The Democrats are just as evil as the Republicans.
Bullshit.
Name one period in history where this has happened when the Democrats held all od the power.
Yes, there are craven power seekers in the Democratic party. They're politicians, after all. But there is one essential thing lacking on the Democratic side: absolute party unity. Republicans have it, Democrats don't.
I consider myself to the left of the spectrum. I have been a registered Democrat at times. Today I learned that a Democratic representative took a bribe. You know what my immediate reaction is? Prosecute the bastard. When it comes to criminals I have no party loyalty. More often than not (and we've seen it in the whole Abramoff debacle) the reaction of Republicans is to circle the wagon, no matter how despicable the behavior. This is not something I see nearly as much on the Democratic side.
Just the fact that we know their names means that, by definition, they're NOT the "World's Top Cybercriminals."
The best would remain unknown.
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Hmmmmm... High userID, only 28 comments in history, starting less than a month ago.
Lots of detailed description of Creative products in post.
Paid shill for Creative?
That's sad. Hope you're making a decent buck.
This is so far the lone voice of truth in a herd of anti-Java zealots. The guy obviously asked this question to get reinforcement for his objections to the switch. I mean really? What other answer did he expect from /. ?
This just in:
An anonymous reader writes "Businesses and individuals in Britain may soon have to use clear, non opaque envelopes when using the postal service or face imprisonment. The UK government has said it will bring in the new powers to address a rise in the use of opaque mail transport methods by criminals and terrorists." From the article: "I mean really!" exclaims one patriot, "A postcard or plastic envelope should be fine for any law abiding citizen. What do these perverts have to hide, anyway?"
You wouldn't let a government agent swing by every morning and look at all the mailing addresses on letters going to/from your house, why the hell would you let them do the same to your phone records?
How about some other examples:
* You're interviewed once a week to see who you've talked to. (polygraph not optional...)
* All of your trash is tagged and sent in for inspection.
* Cameras and microphones are installed outside your front door to record your activity.
These would be considered unacceptable. (Except for the last one in the UK, apparently.)
But consider where things are going. In about a decade it will probably be possible to process all phone audio in real time. In about 20 years active brain scan technology should make foolproof real time lie detection possible. (It's almost there now, just not real time.) In 50 years it should be easy to robotically sift through everyone's trash, recognize, categorize, and catalog the contents.
The question is whether we'll want to do these things, not whether we'll be able. How we react now will affect the decisions of future generations...