There is a phenomenon called "Covert Oral Behavior" which is similar to this. Basically, when you think words, (but do not speak them) the nerve signals which would normally move your mouth and vocal chords are not completely dampened. They are suppressed, but not completely eliminated.
See the work of this research group, based on the research of F. J. McGuigan
The "less than 2MB of ROM, 1MB of RAM..." just gives you a basis to extrapolate the absolute size.
Yep. And, you have to extrapolate DOWN, because this is an upper limit. True, this limit may be increased in future specs, but I doubt it will be anywhere near the sizes you quoted in your first post.
Why?
PersonalJava is targeted for small devices. The two larger JDK's you used as examples were targeted for PCs.
The two JDK implementations you used as examples were BETA versions, not optimized for much of anything, let alone size.
"Arming the enemy" ... "It's high time the security community stopped providing the blueprints for building these weapons,"
It's high time Microsoft stop using inflammatory, mitilaristic sounding rhetoric at a time of national crisis. There are too many actual terrorists about for Microsoft to be irresponsibly crying "terrorist."
To me this incident shows that there's no such thing as reliable intelligence, and even if there was it'd probably be impossible to prevent something like this from happening again.
How could this change society? The rosiest scenerio I can think of is the death of the major city. The internet now makes it possible to work, albeit in an inconvenient manner, from almost anywhere. Distributed forms of power generation (fuel cells, and related technologies) also make larger, spread out cities more possible. Smaller cities, highly spread out urban areas, will make point attacks like those today much less devastating, and thus less desirable for terroists to execute.
If there's a mass movement for people to leave cities, or radically spread them out, it's now possible to give that movement an outlet. Where there's pressure (with a corresponding outlet) there's bound to be flow, and I think people will flow out of the cities once all the implications sink in.
This would be the best thing to quell all of the "make the internet safe for children" BS. It would confine all of the censorship battles (about that issue, at least) to that TLD. We wouldn't have to worry about it elsewhere.
It's funny that this Slashdot piece was posted today. I just read chapter 12 of 'Nonzero' before coming in to work today. In fact, the first time the phrase "technology of trust" showed up in the text, my first thought was "Dude...Open Source..."
You can become a computer programmer anytime. It's like carpentry, you learn on the job.
I wouldn't go quite that far. You can't learn everything on the job. At least minor in CS. That way you get some theory under your belt.
I say this from experience. My undergrad degree was in psychology. Out of college my only jobs have been in the IT field. I eventually got a masters in CS because I felt it was necessay. It wasn't necessary to program, but it was necessary to program _well_ and to understand the big picture.
But definately focus primarily on stuff besides CS. Computers are an empty bowl. You've got to fill them with something. Fill your mind first and the computer will follow.:-)
As a long-time radon inhaler, I can honestly say that there is nothing that bothers me more than having some right-wing tree hugger complain about my "second-hand radon".
While YOU, personally, might not like inhaling radon, there are others of us who CHOOSE to consume this highly radioactive gas and you should have the courtesy to respect their needs as well.
Art is about conveying beauty and/or a message to an audience (sometimes just the artist himself).
And programming is about conveying a message to the machine and to other programmers who have to maintain that message. The message to the machine is, these days, very structured and logical. The message to the other programmers can be artistic and contain beauty in several forms: There's the beauty of the elegant, logical structure, beauty of the clear communication of ideas, and beauty of the novel and suprising solution.
The primary purpose is "does it work" not "is it nice to look at" or even "is it elegant."
This is why you see much greater emphasis on arts and other trivial applications of human talents, instead of engineering and classical studies.
You couldn't have said it better! I hear that some students also waste mental space on emotional and social skills as well. What a terrible waste!
This comment has been modded up to 5 because the moderators can't see that it's a JOKE. For example:
You can't teach a whole generation to drive society by encouraging them to feel about driving. You have to give them rigid rules and test them on their grasp thereof. And if they don't conform, then you make them conform. It's not totalitarianism; it's just common sense.
GROWING numbers of people in their twenties and thirties are suffering from severe memory loss because of increasing reliance on books and other word storage devices, according to new research.
Sufferers complain they are unable to recall names, written words or appointments, and in some cases have had to give up their jobs.
Doctors are blaming paper books, personal organisers and road maps. They claim these sophisticated information devices lead to diminished use of the brain to work out problems and inflict "information overload" that makes it difficult to distinguish between important and unimportant facts.
One researcher commented, "Why, in my day we could memorize the entire Odyssey! All we had was the 'rosy fingered dawn' to help us. Kids these days!"
Just because I am free spirited, unworryied, or just plain lazy/dumb/maleducated doesnt mean I share responsibility when someone else breaks the law.
You couldn't be more wrong. Leaving a box with high bandwidth access unprotected is like leaving a loaded gun out when there are kids around. If somebody shoots themself or someone else with that gun, you should be held responsible.
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The people who designed the language clearly had safety and correctness in mind.
Yep.
I don't believe that the "software culture" has changed significantly in this respect since then.
One word: Java.
There is a phenomenon called "Covert Oral Behavior" which is similar to this. Basically, when you think words, (but do not speak them) the nerve signals which would normally move your mouth and vocal chords are not completely dampened. They are suppressed, but not completely eliminated. See the work of this research group, based on the research of F. J. McGuigan
The "less than 2MB of ROM, 1MB of RAM..." just gives you a basis to extrapolate the absolute size.
Yep. And, you have to extrapolate DOWN, because this is an upper limit. True, this limit may be increased in future specs, but I doubt it will be anywhere near the sizes you quoted in your first post.
Why?
PersonalJava is targeted for small devices. The two larger JDK's you used as examples were targeted for PCs.
The two JDK implementations you used as examples were BETA versions, not optimized for much of anything, let alone size.
So, guess again.
Gee. Maybe you could check out the Zaurus developer's site. There you'd find this:
"According to the PersonalJava Technology White Paper, PJAE's target device is specified as follows: less than 2MB of ROM, 1MB of RAM..."
It's in the section "Java on the Sharp PDA."
But, by all means, keep guessing. Why let pesky facts get in the way?
Humand have been eating monkeys in that part of the world for millenia. What changed to cause HIV to hop from one species to another?
Maybe it has before and the conditions were not right for it to spread. You jump to conclusions without considering a simple possibility.
These issues are vastly more complex than the glib statements made by the genetics industry would have people believe.
They're also far more complex than your child like treatment of them.
...or better yet, who you wanted to be.
"Arming the enemy"
...
"It's high time the security community stopped providing the blueprints for building these weapons,"
It's high time Microsoft stop using inflammatory, mitilaristic sounding rhetoric at a time of national crisis. There are too many actual terrorists about for Microsoft to be irresponsibly crying "terrorist."
To me this incident shows that there's no such thing as reliable intelligence, and even if there was it'd probably be impossible to prevent something like this from happening again.
How could this change society? The rosiest scenerio I can think of is the death of the major city. The internet now makes it possible to work, albeit in an inconvenient manner, from almost anywhere. Distributed forms of power generation (fuel cells, and related technologies) also make larger, spread out cities more possible. Smaller cities, highly spread out urban areas, will make point attacks like those today much less devastating, and thus less desirable for terroists to execute.
If there's a mass movement for people to leave cities, or radically spread them out, it's now possible to give that movement an outlet. Where there's pressure (with a corresponding outlet) there's bound to be flow, and I think people will flow out of the cities once all the implications sink in.
This would be the best thing to quell all of the "make the internet safe for children" BS. It would confine all of the censorship battles (about that issue, at least) to that TLD. We wouldn't have to worry about it elsewhere.
It's funny that this Slashdot piece was posted today. I just read chapter 12 of 'Nonzero' before coming in to work today. In fact, the first time the phrase "technology of trust" showed up in the text, my first thought was "Dude...Open Source..."
Sun's Java is not portable. Just write complicated code according to the Sun specs and it will not run on Microsoft VM and vice versa.
Provide a code sample, or shaddup...
There really isn't any RAD programming system for Linux (Klyx ain't there yet.), so that means a lot of time and effort for something pretty small.
Uhh....Java.
You can become a computer programmer anytime. It's like carpentry, you learn on the job.
:-)
I wouldn't go quite that far. You can't learn everything on the job. At least minor in CS. That way you get some theory under your belt.
I say this from experience. My undergrad degree was in psychology. Out of college my only jobs have been in the IT field. I eventually got a masters in CS because I felt it was necessay. It wasn't necessary to program, but it was necessary to program _well_ and to understand the big picture.
But definately focus primarily on stuff besides CS. Computers are an empty bowl. You've got to fill them with something. Fill your mind first and the computer will follow.
I take offense to your post.
As a long-time radon inhaler, I can honestly say that there is nothing that bothers me more than having some right-wing tree hugger complain about my "second-hand radon".
While YOU, personally, might not like inhaling radon, there are others of us who CHOOSE to consume this highly radioactive gas and you should have the courtesy to respect their needs as well.
Art is about conveying beauty and/or a message to an audience (sometimes just the artist himself).
:-)
And programming is about conveying a message to the machine and to other programmers who have to maintain that message. The message to the machine is, these days, very structured and logical. The message to the other programmers can be artistic and contain beauty in several forms: There's the beauty of the elegant, logical structure, beauty of the clear communication of ideas, and beauty of the novel and suprising solution.
The primary purpose is "does it work" not "is it nice to look at" or even "is it elegant."
You've never programmed on a team, have you?
Bones:"Dammit Jim, I'm dead!"
Spock:"I believe, doctor, your observation is correct. Fascinating."
The title says it all...
The page-based internet is boring. People want genuinely interactive experience, with drama, excitement, games and jokes.
I got one word for ya, baby: Java.
I wonder how difficult that would be to implement ?
About as difficult as a debugger, I'd imagine...
Hard to speak for you when I don't know who you are...or what you're saying!
This is why you see much greater emphasis on arts and other trivial applications of human talents, instead of engineering and classical studies.
You couldn't have said it better! I hear that some students also waste mental space on emotional and social skills as well. What a terrible waste!
This comment has been modded up to 5 because the moderators can't see that it's a JOKE. For example:
You can't teach a whole generation to drive society by encouraging them to feel about driving. You have to give them rigid rules and test them on their grasp thereof. And if they don't conform, then you make them conform. It's not totalitarianism; it's just common sense.
At least I hope it's a joke...
GROWING numbers of people in their twenties and thirties are suffering from severe memory loss because of increasing reliance on books and other word storage devices, according to new research.
Sufferers complain they are unable to recall names, written words or appointments, and in some cases have had to give up their jobs.
Doctors are blaming paper books, personal organisers and road maps. They claim these sophisticated information devices lead to diminished use of the brain to work out problems and inflict "information overload" that makes it difficult to distinguish between important and unimportant facts.
One researcher commented, "Why, in my day we could memorize the entire Odyssey! All we had was the 'rosy fingered dawn' to help us. Kids these days!"
Just because I am free spirited, unworryied, or just plain lazy/dumb/maleducated doesnt mean I share responsibility when someone else breaks the law.
You couldn't be more wrong. Leaving a box with high bandwidth access unprotected is like leaving a loaded gun out when there are kids around. If somebody shoots themself or someone else with that gun, you should be held responsible.
At the end of the article, Tomlinson expresses what I consider the ideal geek attitude:
"I am curious to find out if I am wrong."
Words to live by!