uhhh no guy. Brady law had prevented 700k+ prohibited persons from buying guns at a store front, and if assholes had not weakened it and it forced EVERy sale of a gun to have a background check we would be in a lot better position. Not to mention the involvemet of the gun industry in supportinng corrupt gun dealers so they can drive crime up and hence make MORE peope afraid and drive MORE gun purchases.
the RIAA's actions are only designed to give them the monopol clear channel has on FM, to P2P. Its all bullshit really, the harder they fight the more their profits go down.
wtf ever, go read the case law. A well-regulated militia, is only the organized miltia, SCOTUS has said that that is the national/state guards. I have looked up the facts. The NRA is pushing legislation now to protect a violent and corrupt industry. You're all a bunch of fucking lying gun nuts.
you gun nuts need to take a con law class. You gotta get away from the NRAs proganda. Miller says you have to be in the organized militia to have RKBA, 2 SCOTUS cases say that the organized militia is the state and national guards.
I'm not a troll, you're a troll. The 2nd Amendment does have a qualifer, "A well-regulated militia," DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are yuo part of the state guard? No, So i guess you got no right to keep and bear arms.
B. EHHHH WRONG. It took 11 years of gun control laws to bring down crime, thanks to a dem state legislature, and predominately dem city councils NYC is now one of America's safest big cities.
c. No, they give it to Republicans, unless a republican isn't running, and then the most pro gun pol might get it, but not any money.
I have looked at the facts, I know the NRA is violent, deceptive industry lobby. And I know that like ALL OTHER FUCKING REPUBLICANS, pro gunners are LIARS. Take your Bushista Amerika and shove it up your ass.
there's no pro or con about it. They post a "hit list" online, they have quite a bit of information on ohw to use guns. The gun control sites don't do that. Hell most information on gun control sites is news and legal information. On the NRA site and other pro gun sites its all about ow to use guns, how to get guns, what to do if some "gun grabbing libral teacher comes to take your gun away,"
in the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia
That right there screws any individual interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. Its not strange to cite Miller, its been the standard for 2nd Amendment in the courts for years. And no it has nothing to do with the weapon because the SCOTUS has refused to take any of the appelate cases concerning the AWB. Which means they haven't changed their mind since Miller was written.
one was pre incorporation doctrine, which might make it unusable from most peoples POV, US v Miller said that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to preserve the state militias, which SCOTUS has also upheld is the State/National Gaurds. Silvera v Lockyer was a 9th circuit case that is probably going to become the standard case law for future 2nd Amendment cases.
lack of humanity. The US is THE major trafficker in small arms. Which kill millions every year. You're damned right they're doing something about it. Its because violent, racist idiots like you spend more time on conspricay theories than on acting like a fucking human being. Why don't you tell me please, since you cite Emerson, WHY the judge in that case did not report any legal precedence in his opinion? Silvera v Lockyer is going to be the standard for all future case law concerning the 2nd Amendment. Get used to it.
the 2nd Amendment was about keeping the Federal government from disarming state militias. which is what SCOTUS said in US v Miller, and the 9th Circuit re affirmed in Silver v Lockyer. The SCOTUS has also twice ruled that the "organized militia" defined in the constitution is the State/National Guards. And instead of disarming the State/National Guards the federal government acutally gives them millions every year in new and used equipment.
Natural Rights? Bullshit, long ago discarded on the trash heap of philosophy. And "well-regulated militia" must mean the "organized militia" wihch SCOTUS has twice ruled is the National and State Guards.
Replacing words does not make an argument, and case law is pretty straight foreward concerning the 2nd Amendment. "A well-regulated militia," is not a subordinate clause. Its the main clause of the sentence. Which is how people were taught to write in 17th and 18th century. Miller said that the purpose of the second amendment was to preserve the "organized militia", whihc SCOTUS has twice said is the National/State guards. The fight here isn't about the word people. Its about the words "well regulated militia" and "right to keep and bear arms," Silvera v Lockyer from the 9th circuit goes into greater details on this. "well-regulated militia" has to be the organized militia, and "right to keep and bear arms" has nothing to do with personal firearm ownership, its about "keeping guns ready in an armory and bearing arms in military formation." Under the leadership of either the States governor or the President. And this has nothing to do with political agendas. It has everything to do with the fact that the NRA is lying violent political lobby working for even scummier people in the gun industry and the Republican party. The NRA even posts its own black list, or is it a hit list, on the internet.
the organized and the unorganized. "well-regulated" most likely means the organized. SCOTUS has twice ruled that the organized militia means the State/National Guards. That was in 1965 and 1990. Not specifically 2nd Amendment cases. But they are part of the case law.
its hard keeping up with all the gun nut spin on the internet. Also, there's been many stories in American newspapers. Some mayors encourage their police forces to underreport crimes so they can get more funding.
Racist because a) they're not fighting for anyone's rights. they're actually cheapening our real rights by insisting in some fanciful aclohol and Jerry Springer induced tunnel vision that an amendment which clearly states that it is only about the "well-regulated militia," the one reserved to the states in Article 1 of the constitution, has anything at all to do with private ownership of firearms. Not even to begin that "keep and bear arms" has always meant kept in an ARMORY and bear arms in military FORMATION. and b) they're opposition to gun control consistently hurts minorities more than it does anyone else. and c) they give almost their entire support to the GOP a political party that cut its teeth on screwing poor minorities.
How is this violent? Hear of Randy Weever, Tim McVeigh, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. How often do gun nuts rant about "OHHH if they only came for me, I'd..." You're a damned fool, this isn't just a black list, its a hit list for ignorant anti-social jerks with firepower who just want to off someone before they die.
And don't give me the line that the NRA is protecting anyones rights. They're an industry lobby and a part of the GOP. They're the worst of the worst. The worst industry, the worst polticians, and the worst lobby. They oppose gun control because it would actually decrease crime, which would take away their best marketing tool. FEAR.
Americans Flock to Get on NRA BlacklistThe NRA initially denied compiling a blacklist as such, saying it was merely responding to members wanting to know which individuals and corporations opposed the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment on the right to bear arms.
But National Rifle Association Executive Vice-President Wayne LaPierre said of the list last week; "Our members don't want to buy their songs, don't want to go to their movies, don't want to support their careers."
And there was a study done on school aged children and eddie eagle. Kids who went through the eddie eagle program were much more likely to play with guns. Due to a false sense of security given by worthless "safety" lessons.
or freedom of speech. As another poster pointed out, this is not default. Its an option to filter out "violent" sites. With the NRA's hit list published online, I'm sure they count.
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fuck you assholes. Americans are so fucking dumb, i'm leaving this retarded country before i'm drafted by bush
uhhh no guy. Brady law had prevented 700k+ prohibited persons from buying guns at a store front, and if assholes had not weakened it and it forced EVERy sale of a gun to have a background check we would be in a lot better position. Not to mention the involvemet of the gun industry in supportinng corrupt gun dealers so they can drive crime up and hence make MORE peope afraid and drive MORE gun purchases.
cus there are just too many idiots out there
sounds like another freaking whiner.
too bad the american legal system is so oppressive. What do you want, the gamer to get a $15,000 fine from the RIAA?
thats like making a deal with the devil. Is it time for the revolution yet?
the RIAA's actions are only designed to give them the monopol clear channel has on FM, to P2P. Its all bullshit really, the harder they fight the more their profits go down.
I remember seeing this before.
wtf ever, go read the case law. A well-regulated militia, is only the organized miltia, SCOTUS has said that that is the national/state guards. I have looked up the facts. The NRA is pushing legislation now to protect a violent and corrupt industry. You're all a bunch of fucking lying gun nuts.
you gun nuts need to take a con law class. You gotta get away from the NRAs proganda. Miller says you have to be in the organized militia to have RKBA, 2 SCOTUS cases say that the organized militia is the state and national guards.
I'm not a troll, you're a troll. The 2nd Amendment does have a qualifer, "A well-regulated militia," DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are yuo part of the state guard? No, So i guess you got no right to keep and bear arms. B. EHHHH WRONG. It took 11 years of gun control laws to bring down crime, thanks to a dem state legislature, and predominately dem city councils NYC is now one of America's safest big cities. c. No, they give it to Republicans, unless a republican isn't running, and then the most pro gun pol might get it, but not any money. I have looked at the facts, I know the NRA is violent, deceptive industry lobby. And I know that like ALL OTHER FUCKING REPUBLICANS, pro gunners are LIARS. Take your Bushista Amerika and shove it up your ass.
there's no pro or con about it. They post a "hit list" online, they have quite a bit of information on ohw to use guns. The gun control sites don't do that. Hell most information on gun control sites is news and legal information. On the NRA site and other pro gun sites its all about ow to use guns, how to get guns, what to do if some "gun grabbing libral teacher comes to take your gun away,"
in the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia That right there screws any individual interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. Its not strange to cite Miller, its been the standard for 2nd Amendment in the courts for years. And no it has nothing to do with the weapon because the SCOTUS has refused to take any of the appelate cases concerning the AWB. Which means they haven't changed their mind since Miller was written.
one was pre incorporation doctrine, which might make it unusable from most peoples POV, US v Miller said that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to preserve the state militias, which SCOTUS has also upheld is the State/National Gaurds. Silvera v Lockyer was a 9th circuit case that is probably going to become the standard case law for future 2nd Amendment cases.
lack of humanity. The US is THE major trafficker in small arms. Which kill millions every year. You're damned right they're doing something about it. Its because violent, racist idiots like you spend more time on conspricay theories than on acting like a fucking human being. Why don't you tell me please, since you cite Emerson, WHY the judge in that case did not report any legal precedence in his opinion? Silvera v Lockyer is going to be the standard for all future case law concerning the 2nd Amendment. Get used to it.
the 2nd Amendment was about keeping the Federal government from disarming state militias. which is what SCOTUS said in US v Miller, and the 9th Circuit re affirmed in Silver v Lockyer. The SCOTUS has also twice ruled that the "organized militia" defined in the constitution is the State/National Guards. And instead of disarming the State/National Guards the federal government acutally gives them millions every year in new and used equipment.
Natural Rights? Bullshit, long ago discarded on the trash heap of philosophy. And "well-regulated militia" must mean the "organized militia" wihch SCOTUS has twice ruled is the National and State Guards.
Replacing words does not make an argument, and case law is pretty straight foreward concerning the 2nd Amendment. "A well-regulated militia," is not a subordinate clause. Its the main clause of the sentence. Which is how people were taught to write in 17th and 18th century. Miller said that the purpose of the second amendment was to preserve the "organized militia", whihc SCOTUS has twice said is the National/State guards. The fight here isn't about the word people. Its about the words "well regulated militia" and "right to keep and bear arms," Silvera v Lockyer from the 9th circuit goes into greater details on this. "well-regulated militia" has to be the organized militia, and "right to keep and bear arms" has nothing to do with personal firearm ownership, its about "keeping guns ready in an armory and bearing arms in military formation." Under the leadership of either the States governor or the President. And this has nothing to do with political agendas. It has everything to do with the fact that the NRA is lying violent political lobby working for even scummier people in the gun industry and the Republican party. The NRA even posts its own black list, or is it a hit list, on the internet.
the organized and the unorganized. "well-regulated" most likely means the organized. SCOTUS has twice ruled that the organized militia means the State/National Guards. That was in 1965 and 1990. Not specifically 2nd Amendment cases. But they are part of the case law.
its hard keeping up with all the gun nut spin on the internet. Also, there's been many stories in American newspapers. Some mayors encourage their police forces to underreport crimes so they can get more funding.
anti-social and violent.
Racist because a) they're not fighting for anyone's rights. they're actually cheapening our real rights by insisting in some fanciful aclohol and Jerry Springer induced tunnel vision that an amendment which clearly states that it is only about the "well-regulated militia," the one reserved to the states in Article 1 of the constitution, has anything at all to do with private ownership of firearms. Not even to begin that "keep and bear arms" has always meant kept in an ARMORY and bear arms in military FORMATION. and b) they're opposition to gun control consistently hurts minorities more than it does anyone else. and c) they give almost their entire support to the GOP a political party that cut its teeth on screwing poor minorities. How is this violent? Hear of Randy Weever, Tim McVeigh, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. How often do gun nuts rant about "OHHH if they only came for me, I'd..." You're a damned fool, this isn't just a black list, its a hit list for ignorant anti-social jerks with firepower who just want to off someone before they die. And don't give me the line that the NRA is protecting anyones rights. They're an industry lobby and a part of the GOP. They're the worst of the worst. The worst industry, the worst polticians, and the worst lobby. They oppose gun control because it would actually decrease crime, which would take away their best marketing tool. FEAR.
Americans Flock to Get on NRA Blacklist The NRA initially denied compiling a blacklist as such, saying it was merely responding to members wanting to know which individuals and corporations opposed the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment on the right to bear arms. But National Rifle Association Executive Vice-President Wayne LaPierre said of the list last week; "Our members don't want to buy their songs, don't want to go to their movies, don't want to support their careers." And there was a study done on school aged children and eddie eagle. Kids who went through the eddie eagle program were much more likely to play with guns. Due to a false sense of security given by worthless "safety" lessons.
or freedom of speech. As another poster pointed out, this is not default. Its an option to filter out "violent" sites. With the NRA's hit list published online, I'm sure they count.
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