You arguments aren't going to convince a single person. Most people make a clear distinction between "stealing shit off piratebay" & "the basis of humanity." Talking like a lunatic isn't going to convince anybody who isn't a Slashdot drone repeating the groupthink.
Yeah, and get 20 extra, because the advantage of Facebook is that random family & friends are likely to have an account, while you don't know a single person who has a freedom box. It's like being the only person on the block with a video phone.
People still buy games? Don't they just steal them using piratebay? And there's basically no linux games.. #1 is fucking Minecraft, #2 is a game that lets you date crippled girls, and #3 is 13 years old.
They could have the most advanced helmets in the world and it wouldn't help at all. In fact they'd probably be better off eliminating helmets and armor, because players wouldn't be able to hit each other as hard.
Look at Matt Kalil. The guy is 6'7", 306 pound, runs very fast, is very strong (30 reps bench press at 225), jumps very high. There is no way you can put people like him in a contact sport without a large risk of injury.
I think the only way football can be saved is dramatically changing the rules, or passing some sort of law exempting high schools/colleges/the NFL from injury lawsuits.
Jim Fixx popularized jogging with "The Complete Book of Running," then died of a heart attack at age 52. An autopsy revealed a cornorary artery that was 95% blocked. Sample size of 1 and all that.
I have no problem with this, as long as they make it clear what they're doing. If you don't like the idea, don't buy them. If nobody buys such game, they won't be sold any more.
Dude is right. Video games are a competitive marketplace. If more people bought the games new (because less people bought used), there'd be more games published, there'd be more pressure to lower game prices, etc. Games aren't made as charity or on a government quota, they're made with the hope of financial returns.
All the "I am a Slashdot nerd, and my armchair financial analysis is more valid than people who are trained and well-studied and have full financial data" posts are such nonsense. It's a little self-serving that the best financial plan (according to Slashdot) happen to be "allow unlimited torrents and cheap used games and and Kickstarter re-makes of 80s games and 20 hours of gameplay for $20!!!"
Iran and North Korea have a history of working together on missile development and nuclear programs. They're in similar diplomatic positions with the rest of the world.
You seem to be arguing that the countries are fundamentally different, which really is an entirely different question. Surprise! Countries often can have a working relation despite their differences.
I understand the policy, because I know people who treat big-box stores as electronics lending libraries.
Oh, and because this is slashdot, blah blah blah something about "those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." I don't think there's any ethical problem with the idea, as long as the return policy was clear when you purchased the product. 98% of people already use credit cards to buy larger items, so concerns over harvesting personal data are misplaced.
Well far be it for me to criticize a "Death Metal Underground" fan, but you're coming up with half-assed reasons to support a conclusion you've already decided upon. The great societies of Finland or Japan? Is that some sort of joke? I mean, they're OK I guess. Kind of small and unimportant...you forgot to mention North Korea (100% Korean) though.
What about the great empires of Rome, Islam, India, many of China, classic Turkey. They were mutli-racial, often multi-religious, certainly mutl-caste, and wide disparities in intelligence are just a natural part of semi-agrarian societies. They all thrived. And if they didn't last forever, or at least they didn't thrive forever, that's because that's the nature of the world. Anyway that's all beside the point, because your outrage about non-Europeans coming to the US isn't really comparable..."minority/majority" is certainly a different thing than "mono-racial."
As somebody who put in money for Wasteland 2, I'm negative about Kickstarter. I'll even join the official backlash team.
Let's wait until a single good game has been released under this model. Or really, a single good game has been released from somebody who doesn't already have a large fanbase and nostalgia helping him get attention.
Furthermore, there's really no accountability under this whole scheme. What if the game released is totally amateurish? What if the developers just pocket half the money? What if the money ends up not being enough and the game is only half completed? What recourse do the "donators" have?
System seems ripe for being abused...Leisure Suit Larry's kickstarter suggests the money is needed to make the game, glossing over that the game has already been under production for at least half a year. Presumably they already had the money, it doesn't mention where the donation's going.
A 240 pound man would win a fight against a 160 pound man without even trying. Any contest of strength or fighting is divided into weight classes for that very reason. And Zimmerman probably wasn't totally out of shape, he had experience doing neighborhood watches and assaulting police officers.
I mean, maybe Trayvon Martin had a weapon or was a kung-fu master or suprised him or something. But just the idea of a 6'3" 160lb. er over-powering somebody who weighs 240 lbs. is ridiculous. And "near 30" isn't old, anything below 50 wouldn't really make a difference.
Not that this determines innocence or guilt. Just sayin'.
It's certainly not a lie, this is just Slashdot demonizing an industry they don't like. The music industry wasn't trying to discourage piracy because they enjoy spending money on lawyers or revel in negative press. It's a theory that this latest piece of evidence doesn't bear out, although it certainly doesn't disprove.
From a quick google, the French Music industry went down 11% in 2010. Perhaps the industry would have been harder hit without this law. Perhaps it takes time for consumers to adjust their purchasing behavior. Perhaps people were simply unwilling to spend money on a luxury item due to some other unrelated event. So this piece of law suggests something, but proves nothing.
I don't know, perhaps it's easier to rationalize stealing when you construe this as an us vs. them situation, where the other side is a bunch of crooked liars.
If you read Slashdot, you know that stealing is OK, because 1) It costs more than is reasonable 2) You disagree with their license or copy protection scheme 3) The MPAA/RIAA are a bunch of jerks 4) You promise you will support the artist directly by some kind of donation or going to their show or referring your friends 5) It's a try before you buy situation, and you'll pay later if you like the program 6) Stealing software doesn't deprive others of the product
"The "red flag" test stems from the language in the statute that requires that an OSP not be “aware of facts or circumstances from which infringing activity is apparent.” The "red flag" test contains both a subjective and an objective element. Objectively, the OSP must have knowledge that the material resides on its system. Subjectively, the "infringing activity would have been apparent to a reasonable person operating under the same or similar circumstances.""
These services exist for no other reason than to facilitate piracy, and any reasonable person knows this. Therefore, no, the DMCA provision doesn't apply.
I know, I know. "I don't know this! What makes you the judge!" Well fuck you. Yes you do know that these sites exist entirely to facilitate piracy.
Why should the government prohibit people from entering into a private contract for a legal product/service? Isn't that the opposite of what the government should be doing? If you don't want to get a contract, don't get one.
Right now in the US, you're perfectly able to get a pay-as-you-go phone (every supermarket or convenience store or electronics store will sell them), or you can easily get a cell phone with a contract. That is the ideal system.
Sure. Like in England, where you're conservative and vote Conservative Party and instead support some "Conservative-Liberal Democrat" coalition that makes no idealogical sense and is basically a purely political creation to check Labour.
The point stands: Then why are you even buying console ports in the first place? If PC technology is so much better and consoles/console ports are stuck in the past, one of the (great many) native PC games out there would be a better choice.
It's not like nobody makes PC-exclusive games. The large majority of games for the PC aren't console ports. You could easily be a PC gamers and never play a single console port. It's just, the most popular, best-produced games are console ports. If you don't like them, don't play them.
The lack of PC games that are more popular than console ports seems to indicate either: 1) Some sort of massive conspiracy where major corporation forego earning money, in order to piss off fanboys. 2) Consoles ports actually aren't clearly inferior to PC games.
The 360 was released in 2005 and still going strong. If you bought one then and avoided RROD, you're still good to go. Meanwhile ipods from then have been thrown away, your computer from 2005 is a dinosaur that you keep to run Linux on, your cell phone from 2005 has been somewhere in the back of your closet since 2006, your TV from 2005 needs a digital tuner, your DVD player from 2005 won't play Blu-Ray...
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You arguments aren't going to convince a single person. Most people make a clear distinction between "stealing shit off piratebay" & "the basis of humanity." Talking like a lunatic isn't going to convince anybody who isn't a Slashdot drone repeating the groupthink.
Yeah, and get 20 extra, because the advantage of Facebook is that random family & friends are likely to have an account, while you don't know a single person who has a freedom box. It's like being the only person on the block with a video phone.
Only buy games that run on GNU/Linux.
People still buy games? Don't they just steal them using piratebay? And there's basically no linux games.. #1 is fucking Minecraft, #2 is a game that lets you date crippled girls, and #3 is 13 years old.
They could have the most advanced helmets in the world and it wouldn't help at all. In fact they'd probably be better off eliminating helmets and armor, because players wouldn't be able to hit each other as hard.
Look at Matt Kalil. The guy is 6'7", 306 pound, runs very fast, is very strong (30 reps bench press at 225), jumps very high. There is no way you can put people like him in a contact sport without a large risk of injury.
I think the only way football can be saved is dramatically changing the rules, or passing some sort of law exempting high schools/colleges/the NFL from injury lawsuits.
Mechanical computers didn't become "quite widespread" until WW2.
Of the top 10 selling US games for March 2012, there are 4 sports games, 3 fighters, a horror game, a single-player RPG (with FPS elements), and a FPS. http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2012/04/12/top-10-best-selling-games-of-march-2012-usa.htm
Jim Fixx popularized jogging with "The Complete Book of Running," then died of a heart attack at age 52. An autopsy revealed a cornorary artery that was 95% blocked. Sample size of 1 and all that.
Worth mentioning that humans evolved to eat animals with standard fat percentages, not margarine or mealworm-sheep. There is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD, and there are healthy populations that traditionally go 6-9 months with no fats except animals fats.
I have no problem with this, as long as they make it clear what they're doing. If you don't like the idea, don't buy them. If nobody buys such game, they won't be sold any more.
Dude is right. Video games are a competitive marketplace. If more people bought the games new (because less people bought used), there'd be more games published, there'd be more pressure to lower game prices, etc. Games aren't made as charity or on a government quota, they're made with the hope of financial returns.
All the "I am a Slashdot nerd, and my armchair financial analysis is more valid than people who are trained and well-studied and have full financial data" posts are such nonsense. It's a little self-serving that the best financial plan (according to Slashdot) happen to be "allow unlimited torrents and cheap used games and and Kickstarter re-makes of 80s games and 20 hours of gameplay for $20!!!"
Iran and North Korea have a history of working together on missile development and nuclear programs. They're in similar diplomatic positions with the rest of the world.
You seem to be arguing that the countries are fundamentally different, which really is an entirely different question. Surprise! Countries often can have a working relation despite their differences.
I understand the policy, because I know people who treat big-box stores as electronics lending libraries.
Oh, and because this is slashdot, blah blah blah something about "those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." I don't think there's any ethical problem with the idea, as long as the return policy was clear when you purchased the product. 98% of people already use credit cards to buy larger items, so concerns over harvesting personal data are misplaced.
Well far be it for me to criticize a "Death Metal Underground" fan, but you're coming up with half-assed reasons to support a conclusion you've already decided upon. The great societies of Finland or Japan? Is that some sort of joke? I mean, they're OK I guess. Kind of small and unimportant...you forgot to mention North Korea (100% Korean) though.
What about the great empires of Rome, Islam, India, many of China, classic Turkey. They were mutli-racial, often multi-religious, certainly mutl-caste, and wide disparities in intelligence are just a natural part of semi-agrarian societies. They all thrived. And if they didn't last forever, or at least they didn't thrive forever, that's because that's the nature of the world. Anyway that's all beside the point, because your outrage about non-Europeans coming to the US isn't really comparable..."minority/majority" is certainly a different thing than "mono-racial."
As somebody who put in money for Wasteland 2, I'm negative about Kickstarter. I'll even join the official backlash team.
Let's wait until a single good game has been released under this model. Or really, a single good game has been released from somebody who doesn't already have a large fanbase and nostalgia helping him get attention.
Furthermore, there's really no accountability under this whole scheme. What if the game released is totally amateurish? What if the developers just pocket half the money? What if the money ends up not being enough and the game is only half completed? What recourse do the "donators" have?
System seems ripe for being abused...Leisure Suit Larry's kickstarter suggests the money is needed to make the game, glossing over that the game has already been under production for at least half a year. Presumably they already had the money, it doesn't mention where the donation's going.
$150,000 for blocking http://media.smh.com.au/entertainment/trailer-park/blackfellas-guide-to-new-york--trailer-3148656.html ???
It looks like something made by a sincere but completely untalented college freshman.
A 240 pound man would win a fight against a 160 pound man without even trying. Any contest of strength or fighting is divided into weight classes for that very reason. And Zimmerman probably wasn't totally out of shape, he had experience doing neighborhood watches and assaulting police officers.
I mean, maybe Trayvon Martin had a weapon or was a kung-fu master or suprised him or something. But just the idea of a 6'3" 160lb. er over-powering somebody who weighs 240 lbs. is ridiculous. And "near 30" isn't old, anything below 50 wouldn't really make a difference.
Not that this determines innocence or guilt. Just sayin'.
As a form of revenge, I'm been spamming the internet claiming she's a steroid-using track and field athlete from a decade ago.
It's certainly not a lie, this is just Slashdot demonizing an industry they don't like. The music industry wasn't trying to discourage piracy because they enjoy spending money on lawyers or revel in negative press. It's a theory that this latest piece of evidence doesn't bear out, although it certainly doesn't disprove.
From a quick google, the French Music industry went down 11% in 2010. Perhaps the industry would have been harder hit without this law. Perhaps it takes time for consumers to adjust their purchasing behavior. Perhaps people were simply unwilling to spend money on a luxury item due to some other unrelated event. So this piece of law suggests something, but proves nothing.
I don't know, perhaps it's easier to rationalize stealing when you construe this as an us vs. them situation, where the other side is a bunch of crooked liars.
If you read Slashdot, you know that stealing is OK, because
1) It costs more than is reasonable
2) You disagree with their license or copy protection scheme
3) The MPAA/RIAA are a bunch of jerks
4) You promise you will support the artist directly by some kind of donation or going to their show or referring your friends
5) It's a try before you buy situation, and you'll pay later if you like the program
6) Stealing software doesn't deprive others of the product
"The "red flag" test stems from the language in the statute that requires that an OSP not be “aware of facts or circumstances from which infringing activity is apparent.” The "red flag" test contains both a subjective and an objective element. Objectively, the OSP must have knowledge that the material resides on its system. Subjectively, the "infringing activity would have been apparent to a reasonable person operating under the same or similar circumstances.""
These services exist for no other reason than to facilitate piracy, and any reasonable person knows this. Therefore, no, the DMCA provision doesn't apply.
I know, I know. "I don't know this! What makes you the judge!" Well fuck you. Yes you do know that these sites exist entirely to facilitate piracy.
Who would have guessed this got posted by Timothy!
Why should the government prohibit people from entering into a private contract for a legal product/service? Isn't that the opposite of what the government should be doing? If you don't want to get a contract, don't get one.
Right now in the US, you're perfectly able to get a pay-as-you-go phone (every supermarket or convenience store or electronics store will sell them), or you can easily get a cell phone with a contract. That is the ideal system.
Sure. Like in England, where you're conservative and vote Conservative Party and instead support some "Conservative-Liberal Democrat" coalition that makes no idealogical sense and is basically a purely political creation to check Labour.
The point stands: Then why are you even buying console ports in the first place? If PC technology is so much better and consoles/console ports are stuck in the past, one of the (great many) native PC games out there would be a better choice.
It's not like nobody makes PC-exclusive games. The large majority of games for the PC aren't console ports. You could easily be a PC gamers and never play a single console port. It's just, the most popular, best-produced games are console ports. If you don't like them, don't play them.
The lack of PC games that are more popular than console ports seems to indicate either:
1) Some sort of massive conspiracy where major corporation forego earning money, in order to piss off fanboys.
2) Consoles ports actually aren't clearly inferior to PC games.
The 360 was released in 2005 and still going strong. If you bought one then and avoided RROD, you're still good to go. Meanwhile ipods from then have been thrown away, your computer from 2005 is a dinosaur that you keep to run Linux on, your cell phone from 2005 has been somewhere in the back of your closet since 2006, your TV from 2005 needs a digital tuner, your DVD player from 2005 won't play Blu-Ray...