Bear in mind that Netscape 6.x was, in fact, Mozilla 1.0. Also remember the difference between "not supported" and "doesn't work". Someone else just said they could use Netscape 6.2, so I'm guessing this is a case of Apple covering itself. I don't hold it against them for not supporting Netscape 6, since they knew it wasn't really done. -Ster
Provide a Cocoa NSView for embeddors - this is done with NSBrowserView.
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Buildable from ProjectBuilder - we will provide a Cocoa framework for Gecko
...My 3 pc's have been with me since win 98 and are all running XP with no slow down at all...
Come on now: no slowdown? I find that hard to believe. I admin a lab on my college campus, and we had a line of computers that came with 98SE or NT4. Of course, the university ordered them with NT, and of course we overwrote that with 98 so we could game! Eventually the university decided to standardize on XP Pro.
We tried the upgrade on the machines we had 98 on: it didn't go well. We had to upgrade the RAM on them to 256 to get reasonable stability without hitting swap every few minutes. Even then, the speed was not pretty.
So, I kind of doubt that your machines run XP without slowdowns, without upgrades.
Why? because the general populace will never be stupid enough to believe that when they buy a CD or DVD they didn't buy anything but are only holding a delicate license to view it a limited number of times until the morther company wants to revoke it for any reason. The general public wont put up with it... and we dont.. looking at how "protected cd's" get ripped and on Gnutella,kazza,opennap,etc... minutes after release is proof enough.
Ah, but we aren't the "general populace"!
Part of my job(s) is doing technical support, and let me tell you, most people still treat computers like black-boxes: inscrutable, beyond understanding. If something doesn't work, they might get mad, they call me, but if I say I can't fix it either, they leave it at that. After all, if Ster can't fix it, it can't be fixed!
Most people don't have the know-how that Slashdot posters (think they) have. They come across a CD that won't play in their computer, they curse the computer and play it in a CD player instead.
-Ster
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but i don't know since Apple seemed really pissed about the hack to the 10.1 updater cd to make it a full install cd.
That's funny, I seem to recall Steve saying something along the lines of "We trust our customers." I remember because it was in stark contrast to Windows XP activation issues that I'd read about.
I was going to make the same suggestion, but then it occurred to me:
This isn't a MacWorld, or even a Seybold. This conference is very specifically targeted to developers. While I'm sure Steve's keynote will be pretty light on the technical side, it's still going to be intended for the programmers. Macs, especially in the Apple Stores, are supposed to be user friendly, easy to use, and NOT look or feel like one needs a CS degree to use it. I'm not sure that Apple wants the ordinary end-user types to see so much of the behind-the-scenes technobabble that goes into making their computers work, for fear of making them think that Macs are as complicated as Win-x86.
So, I'm not sure that the Apple Stores will carry the feed. WWDC isn't listed on the schedule found at the retail theater page.
However, the best bet by far is to contact the store and ask. Here are some links, complete with maps and phone numbers:
Crossgates Palisades Walden Galleria
I use Mac OS X regularly, and I keep the Terminal open all the time. There are just cases when it's easier to `locate` or `find` than wait for Sherlock to launch. Or, if I need to check a spelling, its a lot faster to `grep theWord/usr/share/dict/web2` than to launch Word.
OS X does a good job of hiding the *most common* details behind the GUI, but if you want to do interesting stuff, you still have to pop open a term and play with conf files. And actually, that's probably the way it should be: make the 10% that's used 90% of the time really easy to access, and leave the 90% that's used 10% of the time for the people who have looked into it and know what they're doing. -Ster
Speaking of sprinklers... fire will kill your servers, but water will too. See if you can get the building's normal sprinkler system turned OFF for your server room, and have it replaced with something more electronics-friendly (Haylon?). -Ster
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D'oh! I previewed, but didn't notice that the (less than) sign got stripped. That should read:
Bear in mind that Netscape 6.x was, in fact, Mozilla (less than)1.0.
I think the rest of the post make sense after that.
Sorry about that!
-Ster
P.S. Why DOES the (less than) get munged even in the "Plain Old Text" option? -S
Bear in mind that Netscape 6.x was, in fact, Mozilla 1.0. Also remember the difference between "not supported" and "doesn't work". Someone else just said they could use Netscape 6.2, so I'm guessing this is a case of Apple covering itself. I don't hold it against them for not supporting Netscape 6, since they knew it wasn't really done.
-Ster
-Ster
Cocoazilla
Hope that helps,
-Ster
Come on now: no slowdown? I find that hard to believe. I admin a lab on my college campus, and we had a line of computers that came with 98SE or NT4. Of course, the university ordered them with NT, and of course we overwrote that with 98 so we could game! Eventually the university decided to standardize on XP Pro.
We tried the upgrade on the machines we had 98 on: it didn't go well. We had to upgrade the RAM on them to 256 to get reasonable stability without hitting swap every few minutes. Even then, the speed was not pretty.
So, I kind of doubt that your machines run XP without slowdowns, without upgrades.
Just my 2 cents,
-Ster
Ah, but we aren't the "general populace"!
Part of my job(s) is doing technical support, and let me tell you, most people still treat computers like black-boxes: inscrutable, beyond understanding. If something doesn't work, they might get mad, they call me, but if I say I can't fix it either, they leave it at that. After all, if Ster can't fix it, it can't be fixed!
Most people don't have the know-how that Slashdot posters (think they) have. They come across a CD that won't play in their computer, they curse the computer and play it in a CD player instead.
-Ster
That's funny, I seem to recall Steve saying something along the lines of "We trust our customers." I remember because it was in stark contrast to Windows XP activation issues that I'd read about.
-Ster
This isn't a MacWorld, or even a Seybold. This conference is very specifically targeted to developers. While I'm sure Steve's keynote will be pretty light on the technical side, it's still going to be intended for the programmers. Macs, especially in the Apple Stores, are supposed to be user friendly, easy to use, and NOT look or feel like one needs a CS degree to use it. I'm not sure that Apple wants the ordinary end-user types to see so much of the behind-the-scenes technobabble that goes into making their computers work, for fear of making them think that Macs are as complicated as Win-x86.
So, I'm not sure that the Apple Stores will carry the feed. WWDC isn't listed on the schedule found at the retail theater page.
However, the best bet by far is to contact the store and ask. Here are some links, complete with maps and phone numbers:
Crossgates
Palisades
Walden Galleria
-Ster
Ehhhh, I wouldn't go quite that far.
/usr/share/dict/web2` than to launch Word.
I use Mac OS X regularly, and I keep the Terminal open all the time. There are just cases when it's easier to `locate` or `find` than wait for Sherlock to launch. Or, if I need to check a spelling, its a lot faster to `grep theWord
OS X does a good job of hiding the *most common* details behind the GUI, but if you want to do interesting stuff, you still have to pop open a term and play with conf files. And actually, that's probably the way it should be: make the 10% that's used 90% of the time really easy to access, and leave the 90% that's used 10% of the time for the people who have looked into it and know what they're doing.
-Ster
Speaking of sprinklers... fire will kill your servers, but water will too. See if you can get the building's normal sprinkler system turned OFF for your server room, and have it replaced with something more electronics-friendly (Haylon?).
-Ster