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WebMail Beta II Available

paradesign writes "Apple now has WebMail Beta 2 up with new improvements! Get to your software update pane... oh wait, go here."

39 comments

  1. I have seen better. by Asterax · · Score: 0

    Why not just Eudora or at the very least, Hotmail?

    1. Re:I have seen better. by vikingstad · · Score: 1

      You have missed the point. Eudora is an email client, and there is nothing stopping you from using your mac.com account in Eudora. Mac.com webmail is just a service, along with other great iTools services that Apple gives away for free. And you suggest Hotmail? Please, it's the most bloated and spam-filled email service around. Not to mention only 2 meg storage, compared to mac.com's 5!

    2. Re:I have seen better. by farfolen · · Score: 1

      or your ISP's nice 10 meg limit.

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      werd to yo motha, muh nizzle.
  2. Didn't even know by foniksonik · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I didn't even know I had mail!

    Quite nice actually since it was mail from an ex (she had 24 piercings, 2 on each nipple and very fun ideas about intimacy) that had run off to get married to another ex of her's... she'll be back in town soon too, just in time to meet my current girlfriend before she leaves for Taiwan/Taipei to teach English to 8-12 yr olds for 6 weeks.

    ...just braggin' I guess.

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    A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
    1. Re:Didn't even know by p4ul13 · · Score: 0
      Uhhhhhhh whut?

      On a related note (or not at all) I can't seem to find how to sign-up. I'm guessing it involves buying a new mac?

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      Paul Lenhart writes words!
    2. Re:Didn't even know by frankie · · Score: 2

      Anyone with OS 9 or X can sign up at itools.mac.com. It will ask you to install the iTools plugin and create a username.

  3. Interesting grouping of stories... by stienman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First Mac webmail, then a web standards article. Unfortunately, Mac webmail doesn't support web standards...

    To access Mac.com Webmail, you can use Microsoft Explorer version 5 or later or Netscape Navigator version 4.7, 4.76, 4.77, or 4.78. You cannot use Netscape Navigator version 6

    To see this message, click on the question mark in the upper right hand of the window, then select About Mac.Com Webmail.

    -Adam

    1. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by garren_bagley · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hmm... Before reading this I accessed my mail with Netscape 6.2 and had no problems.

    2. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by Ster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bear in mind that Netscape 6.x was, in fact, Mozilla 1.0. Also remember the difference between "not supported" and "doesn't work". Someone else just said they could use Netscape 6.2, so I'm guessing this is a case of Apple covering itself. I don't hold it against them for not supporting Netscape 6, since they knew it wasn't really done.
      -Ster

    3. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by beigeboy · · Score: 1

      It supports any web browser, as you might expect a webmail app to, works fine with OmniWeb in particular (unlike the rest of iTools which complains unless you change the ID string)

    4. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by dthable · · Score: 1

      I've even used iTools with Mozilla 1.0 without a problem. Screw the IE thing.

    5. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by Jobe_br · · Score: 1

      The 'newest' 6.x release of Netscape is quite old, actually - Netscape has already released a 7.x preview. Mozilla 1.0 was only released a few days ago (last Friday, I think) - so 6.x is certainly *not* Mozilla 1.0

    6. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by Ster · · Score: 1

      D'oh! I previewed, but didn't notice that the (less than) sign got stripped. That should read:

      Bear in mind that Netscape 6.x was, in fact, Mozilla (less than)1.0.

      I think the rest of the post make sense after that.
      Sorry about that!
      -Ster

      P.S. Why DOES the (less than) get munged even in the "Plain Old Text" option? -S

    7. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by kalidasa · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Bear in mind that Netscape 6.x was, in fact, Mozilla 1.0. [snip] I don't hold it against them for not supporting Netscape 6, since they knew it wasn't really done. -Ster

      No, Netscape 6 was Mozilla 0.6 - Mozilla has gone through 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 0.9.1-0.9.9, RC1, RC2, RC3, and 1.0 since then. Netscape 7 will be based upon Mozilla 1.0

    8. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2
      • To access Mac.com Webmail, you can use Microsoft Explorer version 5 or later or Netscape Navigator version 4.7, 4.76, 4.77, or 4.78. You cannot use Netscape Navigator version 6

        To see this message, click on the question mark in the upper right hand of the window, then select About Mac.Com Webmail.

      Thanks for pointing this out -- I missed it because I was too busy using Mozilla 1.0 to read my mail at webmail.mac.com.

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      -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
    9. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by bsartist · · Score: 1

      Enter it as < to avoid the munging.

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    10. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by inkswamp · · Score: 2

      You cannot use Netscape Navigator version 6

      Maybe it's not compatible with Netscape per se, but I can use Webmail perfectly well with Mozilla 1.0 (on Mac OS 9). In fact, thanks to the brilliant addition of tabbed browsing, I actually find that it's preferable to IE overall.

      --Rick

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      --Rick "If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
    11. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generally on the mac platform I find two tin cans, a piece of string, and a couple of buttons prefereable to IE as well. Jabbing a fork in my eyes is preferable to IE on Mac. :)

    12. Re:Interesting grouping of stories... by Barto · · Score: 1

      However, it works glitch free with Mozilla 1.0 without spoofing.

      Barto

  4. Hmm... they don't mention by jpt.d · · Score: 1

    filtering issues.

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    What we see depends on mainly what we look for. -- John Lubbock Now search for that bug slave!
  5. Bug Fixes by dthable · · Score: 1

    Where is the list of bug fixes? I've been reporting bugs for a month now and I wanted to see if they've been fixed. All I see is this small list of vauge "enhancements".

  6. Can't Access from a non-Mac by aknodle · · Score: 1

    Isn't the point of web-mail to provide a way to access your mail when you are away from your own computer? I just tried to access iTools (yes, I have an iTools account already) from my W2K station at work and was denied access because I must be on a Mac to access this part of iTools.

    Why provide web-mail when you have to be sitting at your own computer to access it?

    1. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by thenightfly42 · · Score: 1

      I use www.mail2web.com, which allows me to access the main mac.com mailbox from my Win98 machine at work.

    2. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by dalassa · · Score: 1

      It is annoying that you can only access webmail from a mac and is the one thing keeping me from fully shutting down my hotmail box. That and I need a email address to send spambots to.

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      Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.
    3. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by Ster · · Score: 2, Informative

      I used webmail.mac.com just last night from a WinMe box (my roommate's, not mine!), and it worked just fine. I think it requires the iTools plugin (and hence a Mac) to change your password and some of the account options. For just regular send/receive, though, anything should work. And if it doesn't, then send in a bug report. It IS a beta, after all, and they are seeking feedback.
      -Ster

    4. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by paradesign · · Score: 2

      do not access it via iTools. use a direct link, webmail.mac.com it works on my win95 boxen at work... and my win 98 boxen at home... and my OSX boxen at home.

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      I want 2D games back.
    5. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by aknodle · · Score: 1

      Thanks-- I was able to access it by going to http://webmail.mac.com as you suggested.

    6. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by babbage · · Score: 2
      FYI, it seems like your iTools mail account can be accessed from any IMAP reader on any platform. I regularly check my Mac mail using Pine, Mozilla-mail, and Mail.app on OSX, Linux, & Solaris boxes, and I've had no problems doing so. In a different window I've got Mozilla/Linux checking my mac.com mail through the web interface right now.

      The other iTools services -- file sharing, etc -- are restricted to Macs only, but the mail component should be accessible anywhere, either through the web browser or with an IMAP client.

    7. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      I checked it from a Windows NT box at work the other day, no problem. On the other hand, I'm blocked from MacGamer.com and Insidemacgames.com, while my coworkers have no problem playing games on shockwave.com. Strange priorities, can play games at work, but can't read about them.

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      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
    8. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by dadragon · · Score: 1

      The other iTools services -- file sharing, etc -- are restricted to Macs only, but the mail component should be accessible anywhere, either through the web browser or with an IMAP client.

      Actually the iDisk can be accessed from any computer that has support for WebDAV (Linux & Win2K do). So it's not restricted by anything other than to platforms which support it.

      You cannot administer your iDisk or @mac.com address on anything but a mac, though.

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    9. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by CokeBear · · Score: 1

      Dude, I've seen your sig, and I have to ask, whats up with that? I'm Canadian too, and I actually think TMLF should be our national anthem (at least, Anne Murray's version at MLG), but why do you have that as your sig?

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    10. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by dadragon · · Score: 1

      Dude, I've seen your sig, and I have to ask, whats up with that? I'm Canadian too, and I actually think TMLF should be our national anthem (at least, Anne Murray's version at MLG), but why do you have that as your sig?

      No particular reason, I just like the song.

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      God save our Queen, and Heaven bless The Maple Leaf Forever!
    11. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by Morky · · Score: 1

      If you go directly to webmail.mac.com, you can log in from a PC, no problem. I know there is a way to get into iTools, as well, but I haven't tried it. If you do some web scouring you can find out how.

    12. Re:Can't Access from a non-Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey jerky. use: webmail.mac.com

  7. Access Webmail just fine from Windows XP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I had no trouble browsing my mac.com mail from windows xp. I was surprised at how well everything rendered. It appears to be flawless. I like how clean everything looks...its a blessed relief from Hotmail.

    Apple is really on a roll lately, the eMac, Quicktime 6, new laptop revisions, the Xserve, the Cinema Display HD, OS X 10.2 is around the corner... If this were 1995 it would be enough to give me a cardiac arrest (back when apple was in a coma and nothing was coming out of that company).

  8. the only happy change I see... by liquide · · Score: 1

    ...is the send/cancel button below the message I type. It's silly to scroll back up to the top when I'm at the bottom typing out my message.

  9. Is it possible for webmail to be so sexy? by Erik+K.+Veland · · Score: 1

    Wow. I love it. In addition to look good it actually works well too. Yet another case for Apple's attention to form, function and usability.

    Listen up Jakob: Web design can both be usable and sexy :)

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    "I tend to think of OS X as Linux with QA and Taste", James Gosling, creator of Java