Nope, I'm true independent. Go look back to me supporting Obama years ago if you like. I'm not really in favor of Trump per se, either, but after reading all the things Hillary has been up to and all the things she's faked or lied about, well, he's our best chance of not-Hillary. I disagree with a lot of his policies, but at the same time, I recognize that the "monster" people see him as is in fact a deliberate creation of media colluding with the DNC. No, that doesn't mean every scandal is fake. He's got plenty of shady business deals and he's said plenty of things I don't agree with.
But that completely pales in regards to what Hillary has done and is doing. I've been able to take a long, hard look at all of that thanks to Wikileaks. Sure, some idiot will say I'm being duped by the Russians, but... duped into what? Not going to war with them over Syria? Because we WANT more useless wars now? I don't think so. The emails are genuine and anyone who claims otherwise is going to need to get the 1 BTC from Erratasec by faking DKIM.
The fact that she's been so effective in making people believe that violence is somehow justified (and blaming both Trump & Sanders for it!) is something I find incredibly disturbing.
The entire primary was a sham. Sanders never had a chance.
Seriously, we've been studying the emails for weeks now [1], and it's been clear for a long time that the entire thing was rigged. They were going to move primaries around just to suit her campaign.
[1] They're DKIM verified by keys including Google's own. If anyone wants to claim they're modified, then get the 1 BTC from the Erratasec challenge and send me a link to the blockchain transaction where you won it first, otherwise I'm going to call you out for not knowing a damn thing about cryptography. P.S. CNN straight up lied to you, it's not illegal to read them. Go read Popehat on that one (and they're a Clinton supporter).
Climate of violence? You mean the bird dogging they staged at Trump rallies? You do realize that I, personally, ran down a bunch of links to corroborate that, no? I mean, we only have Zulema on camera lying to cops. Explain that if you will.
I have no intention of using violence whatsoever. Rather, I would like to see actual, lawful investigation not being prevented by politics, rather than a simple 9-day cover-up where they declare the 650k emails irrelevant, or where they hand out immunity agreements like candy, only to have nothing left to prosecute in the end. A very weird investigation with no grand jury (which you'd need if you thought there was any possibility of charging anyone...).
I'm definitely against the climate of violence, but you might want to double check just who is creating this. About half of this country apparently supports any old dirty trick to attack anyone who might not support Hillary. They're happy to blame the GOP for firebombing its own office. When someone claiming to be on their side (about which I have many doubts...) does that to a black church, they raise hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild it (see anyone on the Democratic side do that for the GOP office? Yeah, I didn't think so...)
So who is it who believes they have a right to retaliate? Who is staging all these assassinations? Who is staging violence?
Or how about the literal assassination attempts on Trump?
Specifically, the one in Las Vegas where the guy tried to steal a gun from a guard.
Not to be confused with the more recent one that was just another attempt at bird dogging, wherein we've found the person behind it. Bonus points? He was in the Stratfor dumps too.
Yeah, they almost got away with another bird dogging attempt.
No wonder they were so quick to interview him on the media and get this story out, whereas you see little mention of that guy in Nevada who tried to steal guard's gun at a rally to shoot Trump.
How many of the Podesta emails have you read? The FBI FOIA dumps?
Right, thought so. Hell, they talk about creating another 'spring' movement like the Arab Spring. We have info on why Vile Rat was left to die in Benghazi over weapons sales in the area. Etc. Etc. Etc.
> Voter fraud really isn't a big problem. [youtu.be] 31 probable cases out of over 1 billion votes cast.
We've made sure it's really hard to actually catch people doing it. Putting on a blindfold and then saying you can't see a problem doesn't really prove much. Personally, I wish we'd do what they do in India and such when you vote--just ink one of your fingers with something that won't wash off.
> If you had confidence that Trump didn't fuck a child you wouldn't be mentioning Bill Clinton at all.
They all run the Clinton Foundation together with Chelsea, which appears to be in on some of this stuff.
Let's just say it doesn't surprise us that the Clintons would come up in relation to the Wiener probe.
But yes, I do have confidence that Trump did no such thing, he had nothing to do with Epstein (and even banned him from one of his properties) years before it came out the guy was a pedo.
> Assange never gives out details about who his leakers are, but even he took the time to state categorically that the Podesta leakers are did not come from the Russian government.
You'd think the real hackers wouldn't want to point people back at themselves. If anything, I suspect an insider. I'm not too clear on why her IT staff actually fell for a bad phishing email for one thing. Though perhaps they didn't mean for him to use the link in the email?
A few more bits of corroboration came out after that, but so much came out that I never got it linked up. I would also like to mention that the emails can be validated by DKIM, so nobody has been altering them.
> And a mentally ill guy from Britain has to do with what?
He attempted to steal a gun to shoot Trump. Just saying this isn't the first assassination scare. I think it's the 4th?
> Well we don't actually know the accusations against Trump were fake, they were damn sketchy but that doesn't mean they were fake.
You'd get better odds on a Royal Flush. An anonymous victim with anonymous witnesses for something that allegedly happened decades ago and involving a well-known pedophile (Epstein) where Bill Clinton took 20+ trips on his "Lolita Express" with several of those trips having no SS agents present. Yeah, lots of people were on that guy's plane but with Podesta being into that creepy as hell #spiritcooking crap, you have to kind of wonder.
Bought media? You mean like Correct the Record and the other media we can see being in the bag thanks to Podesta's emails? Or are you going to repeat the lie that they're "altered" even though we have DKIM authentication from Google's servers (among others) for the relevant emails? Or like the Washington Post which held an illicit fundraiser with the DNC that their lawyers would "never" allow? I've linked to all of these previously many times.
And if you want to talk about terrorists, you might want to see who has been destabilizing Syria for fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
We wouldn't have a lot of this crap like the migrant crisis if they weren't trying to destabilize the area and take over.
You might want to check the Project Veritas video--we have people like Zulema Rodriguez to thank for those protests turning violent. And we can fact check that all the way back to her illegal actions at the AZ protest, lying to cops, and being on the Democratic payroll thanks to the FEC site. So you might be inclined to believe the people you don't like are violent, but we have videos that can be independently corroborated, as well as discussions in the Podesta email dump to tie it all together.
So we can hardly rule out any sort of dirty tricks here, especially with Hillary's poll numbers taking a dive lately.
There were also fake pedophile smears against Julian (Todd & Claire) as well as Trump (Epstein has way more ties to Bill, and Podesta has a ton of pedo friends apparently, including the former Republican speaker/convicted child molester so one really wonders what *they* have in common...) with that lawsuit now being voluntarily dismissed after being debunked even by Jezebel, Popehat and many other sources.
Has anyone ever heard of these sites before? The real news is all on/r/wikileaks.
Sounds like they make clickbait sites they want people to share and make money off the ad revenue. There's no actual indication that people take these any more seriously than the other clickbait, so it doesn't surprise me that Buzzfeed doesn't like competition.
People used to be able to go to Reddit, but/r/politics now bans anyone who mentions their paid "Correct The Record" campaigns, so.... yeah.
You (hopefully) weren't trying to avoid federal record retention laws and hide illegal activities. You (hopefully) weren't destroying emails while under subpoena. You (hopefully) did not lie to Congress about it.
Which is a good thing, because you (hopefully) aren't above the law like certain others.
The Hatch Act is a ban on using one's office for partisan gain. It doesn't require the FBI to shut down active criminal investigations just because the Democratic party happened to nominate someone under investigation.
If anything, the FBI Director has been taking Hillary's side on this. They didn't charge her even after this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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Nope, I'm true independent. Go look back to me supporting Obama years ago if you like. I'm not really in favor of Trump per se, either, but after reading all the things Hillary has been up to and all the things she's faked or lied about, well, he's our best chance of not-Hillary. I disagree with a lot of his policies, but at the same time, I recognize that the "monster" people see him as is in fact a deliberate creation of media colluding with the DNC. No, that doesn't mean every scandal is fake. He's got plenty of shady business deals and he's said plenty of things I don't agree with.
But that completely pales in regards to what Hillary has done and is doing. I've been able to take a long, hard look at all of that thanks to Wikileaks. Sure, some idiot will say I'm being duped by the Russians, but... duped into what? Not going to war with them over Syria? Because we WANT more useless wars now? I don't think so. The emails are genuine and anyone who claims otherwise is going to need to get the 1 BTC from Erratasec by faking DKIM.
The fact that she's been so effective in making people believe that violence is somehow justified (and blaming both Trump & Sanders for it!) is something I find incredibly disturbing.
The entire primary was a sham. Sanders never had a chance.
Seriously, we've been studying the emails for weeks now [1], and it's been clear for a long time that the entire thing was rigged. They were going to move primaries around just to suit her campaign.
[1] They're DKIM verified by keys including Google's own. If anyone wants to claim they're modified, then get the 1 BTC from the Erratasec challenge and send me a link to the blockchain transaction where you won it first, otherwise I'm going to call you out for not knowing a damn thing about cryptography. P.S. CNN straight up lied to you, it's not illegal to read them. Go read Popehat on that one (and they're a Clinton supporter).
They go back and retroactively mod bomb people too.
Climate of violence? You mean the bird dogging they staged at Trump rallies? You do realize that I, personally, ran down a bunch of links to corroborate that, no? I mean, we only have Zulema on camera lying to cops. Explain that if you will.
I have no intention of using violence whatsoever. Rather, I would like to see actual, lawful investigation not being prevented by politics, rather than a simple 9-day cover-up where they declare the 650k emails irrelevant, or where they hand out immunity agreements like candy, only to have nothing left to prosecute in the end. A very weird investigation with no grand jury (which you'd need if you thought there was any possibility of charging anyone...).
I'm definitely against the climate of violence, but you might want to double check just who is creating this. About half of this country apparently supports any old dirty trick to attack anyone who might not support Hillary. They're happy to blame the GOP for firebombing its own office. When someone claiming to be on their side (about which I have many doubts...) does that to a black church, they raise hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild it (see anyone on the Democratic side do that for the GOP office? Yeah, I didn't think so...)
So who is it who believes they have a right to retaliate? Who is staging all these assassinations? Who is staging violence?
It's Hillary who has to pay people to "Correct the Record."
Or how about the literal assassination attempts on Trump?
Specifically, the one in Las Vegas where the guy tried to steal a gun from a guard.
Not to be confused with the more recent one that was just another attempt at bird dogging, wherein we've found the person behind it. Bonus points? He was in the Stratfor dumps too.
Not sure why this got modded troll, it's all true.
What's worse? We had a "quid pro quo" offer in the FBI dumps to retroactively declassify one of the items.
The other fun part is when first confronted on that, they blamed Russia! For the FBI FOIA material. Seriously.
You're talking about the Bush that sneakily endorsed Hillary, right?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...
Yeah, they almost got away with another bird dogging attempt.
No wonder they were so quick to interview him on the media and get this story out, whereas you see little mention of that guy in Nevada who tried to steal guard's gun at a rally to shoot Trump.
How many of the Podesta emails have you read? The FBI FOIA dumps?
Right, thought so. Hell, they talk about creating another 'spring' movement like the Arab Spring. We have info on why Vile Rat was left to die in Benghazi over weapons sales in the area. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Source?
> Voter fraud really isn't a big problem. [youtu.be] 31 probable cases out of over 1 billion votes cast.
We've made sure it's really hard to actually catch people doing it. Putting on a blindfold and then saying you can't see a problem doesn't really prove much. Personally, I wish we'd do what they do in India and such when you vote--just ink one of your fingers with something that won't wash off.
> If you had confidence that Trump didn't fuck a child you wouldn't be mentioning Bill Clinton at all.
They all run the Clinton Foundation together with Chelsea, which appears to be in on some of this stuff.
Let's just say it doesn't surprise us that the Clintons would come up in relation to the Wiener probe.
But yes, I do have confidence that Trump did no such thing, he had nothing to do with Epstein (and even banned him from one of his properties) years before it came out the guy was a pedo.
I should also mention that someone was going on about assassinating Trump in the chat for that event just before this.
So, honestly, it looks like another setup to me.
Need to find whoever it was that started shouting about the gun.
Isis was created by our actions as an excuse to start more wars and take over in that area.
Do you really want a war with Russia over Syria to be next on the menu? Because that's what they appear to have in store for us.
> Assange never gives out details about who his leakers are, but even he took the time to state categorically that the Podesta leakers are did not come from the Russian government.
From looking into the leaked Podesta emails, they cut off shortly after a phishing email arrived. It was a completely bogus email from "Google" with a fake bit.ly reset link claiming that his account had been accessed from the Ukraine.
You'd think the real hackers wouldn't want to point people back at themselves. If anything, I suspect an insider. I'm not too clear on why her IT staff actually fell for a bad phishing email for one thing. Though perhaps they didn't mean for him to use the link in the email?
> James O'Keefe's is famous precisely for making videos dishonestly edited and presented to create fake scandals.
The video can be corroborated by a wealth of independent evidence as I discussed here: https://slashdot.org/firehose....
A few more bits of corroboration came out after that, but so much came out that I never got it linked up. I would also like to mention that the emails can be validated by DKIM, so nobody has been altering them.
> And a mentally ill guy from Britain has to do with what?
He attempted to steal a gun to shoot Trump. Just saying this isn't the first assassination scare. I think it's the 4th?
> Well we don't actually know the accusations against Trump were fake, they were damn sketchy but that doesn't mean they were fake.
You'd get better odds on a Royal Flush. An anonymous victim with anonymous witnesses for something that allegedly happened decades ago and involving a well-known pedophile (Epstein) where Bill Clinton took 20+ trips on his "Lolita Express" with several of those trips having no SS agents present. Yeah, lots of people were on that guy's plane but with Podesta being into that creepy as hell #spiritcooking crap, you have to kind of wonder.
P.S. here's a good summary of most of the Podesta email findings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Bought media? You mean like Correct the Record and the other media we can see being in the bag thanks to Podesta's emails? Or are you going to repeat the lie that they're "altered" even though we have DKIM authentication from Google's servers (among others) for the relevant emails? Or like the Washington Post which held an illicit fundraiser with the DNC that their lawyers would "never" allow? I've linked to all of these previously many times.
And if you want to talk about terrorists, you might want to see who has been destabilizing Syria for fun -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
We wouldn't have a lot of this crap like the migrant crisis if they weren't trying to destabilize the area and take over.
> Voter fraud is extremely rare
Exactly how do we know that when we've made it nearly impossible to find unless the person doing it is a moron?
You might want to check the Project Veritas video--we have people like Zulema Rodriguez to thank for those protests turning violent. And we can fact check that all the way back to her illegal actions at the AZ protest, lying to cops, and being on the Democratic payroll thanks to the FEC site. So you might be inclined to believe the people you don't like are violent, but we have videos that can be independently corroborated, as well as discussions in the Podesta email dump to tie it all together.
And there was also this guy who attempted to steal a gun: http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/19/...
So we can hardly rule out any sort of dirty tricks here, especially with Hillary's poll numbers taking a dive lately.
There were also fake pedophile smears against Julian (Todd & Claire) as well as Trump (Epstein has way more ties to Bill, and Podesta has a ton of pedo friends apparently, including the former Republican speaker/convicted child molester so one really wonders what *they* have in common...) with that lawsuit now being voluntarily dismissed after being debunked even by Jezebel, Popehat and many other sources.
Has anyone ever heard of these sites before? The real news is all on /r/wikileaks.
Sounds like they make clickbait sites they want people to share and make money off the ad revenue. There's no actual indication that people take these any more seriously than the other clickbait, so it doesn't surprise me that Buzzfeed doesn't like competition.
People used to be able to go to Reddit, but /r/politics now bans anyone who mentions their paid "Correct The Record" campaigns, so .... yeah.
You (hopefully) weren't trying to avoid federal record retention laws and hide illegal activities.
You (hopefully) weren't destroying emails while under subpoena.
You (hopefully) did not lie to Congress about it.
Which is a good thing, because you (hopefully) aren't above the law like certain others.
Actually it was more than just Donna. And they cheated against Bernie, too.
But yeah, good summary.
> woman who had people run a private mail server for her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Not buying it. I've seen all of your points but they're mostly nonsense and half of them apply to her as well ("deplorables").
The Hatch Act is a ban on using one's office for partisan gain. It doesn't require the FBI to shut down active criminal investigations just because the Democratic party happened to nominate someone under investigation.
If anything, the FBI Director has been taking Hillary's side on this. They didn't charge her even after this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Why is Hillary different than Martha Stewart?