No, men resort to porn because they are too lazy or socially inept to find a woman to interact with. Oh, wait, you meant starring in porn . ..
Men not being able to get laid is quite a similar problem to women not being able to get money. Men can always buy sex, and women can always sleep their way to cash. A socially inept man is not entitled to sex. A professionally inept woman is not entitled to a good job any more than a professionally inept man is.
I think you may have just been being facetious, but I felt the need to clarify. I find it interesting that people so readily express their disdain for an unsuccessful male, yet get upset when women are unsuccessful. Did anyone read the reviews of Knocked Up? People were pissed that the female Heigl's character was not much more than the vehicle for the main character's journey to maturity. It's HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, people! Some of the characters have to be two dimensional! Furthermore, it was a movie about the guy, not the girl. I'm upset that the stoned asian chick wasn't given a more complete role, and the horsie could've stood to be more fleshed out. While we're at it.
On another note, I was at an art gallery, and a woman I didn't know commented on how "disgusting" the fat aged male that the artist chose to portray was, stating that "he probably can't even reach his penis." What the fuck is that? If some random guy walked up to a woman at an art exhibit, and decided to bond by saying, "I can't believe the artist chose to portray such a fat, disgusting woman. I bet she can't ever reach her vagina," I would be kicked out of the establishment.
# Sig: who puts an actual sig in an AC post...except a troll? # Sig: a sig that has a link to Madonna in a feminist post...compared to a programming language? Hmmm....
A person with the same sig posted the other day. Except it didn't have an explanation as to why Madonna was like C. So I suggested that it was that both seem 10 years younger than they are due to the diligent efforts of countless professionals. Or inherently sloppy and nested with curly braces. You get the point. Anyway, this "Fymynyst" apparently took it to heart and decided to EXPLAIN the shitty analogy rather than come up with a good one.
Madonna is like the C programming language! Nothing can replace it! http://www.madonna.com/ Madonna is the best!
Oh, and I see you updated your sig since I asked what the hell it meant that she's like C.
If I could find the post, I wouldn't reiterate. Oh, well:
Through the diligent work of countless professionals looks 10 years younger than she is? Sloppy and overrun by curly brackets? Platform agnostic? (oh, snap! I just wrote that one! Not sure it applies to C) Not really useful except as a fallback?
I can't remember any others. Help me out, guys.
Plus, if you're a feminist like Madonna is spiritual, I'm running you over if I ever catch you.
Women only resort to pornography because of the amount of discrimination they still face in the job market today.
And why do men resort to pornography? I think it's due to similar things, which makes me think it's not discrimination. I can't remember the name of the documentary, but I think it was an HBO production, that interviewed porn actors of both genders, and their dissatisfaction with their lives was very similar regardless of gender.
People shouldn't do cocaine, either. And yet, every day, hundreds of stock brokers are driven to the drug due to the lack of understanding and love in their lives. That's right, I'm a rabid stockbrokerist, and I shant listen to reason. Or use it, for that matter.
We really need to get rid of pornography. It is degrading to women and it severely cripples the feminist movement.
You and I partially agree. Compare the following two scenarios:
1. Person pays another person to have sex with them. Illegal! 2. Person pays another person to act like they enjoy the sex they are having with them, films it, and has the second party sign a model release form, then charges other people to watch both parties doing it. Legal.
The only thing I can conclude is that prostitution should be legal. It's private, and it keeps smut away from children.
"Feminism" is an interesting thing. It played a very important role in liberating women. What remains to be accomplished is now somewhat abstract. My problem with "Feminists" is that they tend to exclude male sexual repression from the conversation. Not that it should be the whole of the conversation, but if you want a woman in a couple to not be sexually repressed, you need to free the male from the strictures of his mindset as well.
Here are interesting facts: 1. There are significantly more women enrolling in universities in the US today. 2. 85% of financial aid goes to women. 3. We live in a society that protects the practice of male circumcision as violently as "primitive" societies protected their practice of female circumcision.
Ahem. I'm not saying that female circumcision is ok. I'm also not saying they are equal in atrocity. I'm saying that neither is OK. On college enrollment, universities are now looking at men as a focus group that is in danger. They are working on programs to encourage men into college. I also admit that probably the military's excellent--albeit rife with misleading data--advertising campaign contributes to the reduced rate of male enrollment in universities.
But there you go.
I am a shareholder of Time Warner. I have submitted a proposal for voting at the next shareholder meeting for Time Warner to only allow access to whitelisted sites by default and eventually become mandatory.
Oh ho ho. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho! Ho ho ho! Wow. Are you sure you're not Joe Lieberman? Or Tipper Gore? Censorship is horrible, and asking Internet providers to censor our data for us puts us back at the mercy of television to get our news (which is pretty pretty bad)
Why not use AOL? It's really not that bad, considering what you're looking for.
It's not just a Chinese thing. Everybody will carry some portion of the place they grew up with them. It's part of who they are and they are part of that too. So when you attack someones homeland it's partially an attack on them (or so they perceive). Unless the party that is being attacked hurt them directly they will usually try to defend or justify it.
An interesting aside is that I noticed while growing up in Mexico that while the Mexicans have the same response to people belittling their country, the majority of their pride is with the people, not the government. I've thought a lot about this (hooray for me!), and I think it must be from the way their fight for freedom went.
In brief, it's a story of the corrupt government fighting the heroes of the revolution, most of whom were killed. Hidalgo, for example, was a priest involved in a conspiracy to fight the government. The typical image of Hidalgo is him ringing the church bell signalling to conspirators that they government was coming to put the resistance down. Thus ensued a bloody (I imagine fairly brief) battle, and Hidalgo and co. were lined up in front of a wall and shot. Jose Maria Morelos was president, and during a coup, he fled into the wilderness, where he stayed for several years. Los Ninos Heroes (the Hero Children) were six teenage military cadets who died defending their country from the US. The indians--armed with sticks and machetes--ran the French Army out of the country.
Even in the 5th grade textbooks they paint Carranza as a cruel dictator, but also laud him for building all the railroads.
Mexicans sort of assume their government isn't watching out for them. Salinas embezzled (in the 90s) so much money from the country that the peso devalued about 1000 fold. They have no illusions as to the intentions of those in power.
I think this is much more healthy than the view that, while the great leaders of China, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Italy, Russia, Germany, Britain, France, Spain, Japan, Korea, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Oprah etc are vile power-hungry murdering thieves, our government loves and cherishes us.
The current Lenovo's (except the small X series) have both the trackpoint, a trackpad, and no less than 3 mouse buttons. Superior to the Mac in every way possible.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't have a couple buttons on the mac. Mac zealots piss me off. But here's a list of things unbelievably better than the options:
1. magnetic power connector (admittedly because they had the big power-connector-snapping-off-and-remaining-unsupported issue) 2. multitouch on the trackpad.
I'm just saying that calling a mac trackpad with multitouch "a trackpad with a single button" is like calling the iPhone a Blackberry with single button. Think about it.
Oh, by the way, I just saw Steve Wozniak speak at a WorkNet Pinellas event, and I am now aware where a good portion of the Apple Is A Loving God mythology comes from. That guy is freaking amazing. Wonderful talk.
Presuming that is an option, releasing something they can't/won't support is generally considered a Bad Thing by most people. The overwhelming public perception would probably swing negative...
whatever happened to calling something a BETA release, and noting that bug reports are appreciated? Voila!
A bigger disgrace is that the world didn't join. Again, not for the reasons listed in a SoTU. But because getting him out was the right (morally) thing to do.
Right, but the BIGGEST disgrace is that WE said we were going into Iraq and that everyone will stand behind us. Then the rest of the world said they wouldn't aid us based on our shoddy premises. Then we went in ANYWAY, without the necessary backing. Giving very expensive no-bid contracts to many many people for RECONSTRUCTION, yet we didn't pay for armored hum-vees. How long have we been in Iraq? We're currently working on getting armored vehicles for the people on the ground.
That's the biggest disgrace.
On China, I think it's difficult to compare their country with our country, but I think that their government is roughly comparable to our government. The people have less historical inertia towards freedom, and are therefore less free. From what I can see, the Chinese population's freedom is growing, and ours is shrinking. I think that if you look at the description of the Chinese government, it's working well within the bounds of their self-description. Our government, however, is not working within the bounds of its self-description. So I do think our government is somewhat sicker organizationally than the Chinese. Which is not to say it's worse. -Nathan
As an aside, I've never seen you post anything worth reading, ever. Nice of you to keep the streak going.
from the man with an even higher rate of unmodded posts than i, a true compliment.
Really, you seem to just want to insult people and use logical fallacies. Go team!
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Honestly, if you're going to get deeply offended by a word that appears on the internet, where you're willing to concede the original author may not have even realised the significance and/or potential offensiveness of said word to a small subset of the worlds population as a whole --I'm sorry to say the internet is not for you.
Who's deeply offended? The conversation seems to be about the relative offensiveness of 'gypped,' which I think the consensus is that it's definitely less offensive than jewing and the n-word, but surely more offensive than a tasty cake.
People can, however, point out the relative offensiveness of something without having to themselves experience violent inner turmoil. Whenever someone uses the n-word in an inappropriate manner in my presence, I bring it up if I feel it's worth it. For example, I think calling Senator Larry Craig a faggot-basher is inoffensive, because the linguistic construct implies his disdain for homosexuals. Others (my ex, for one) find this inappropriate. I tend to keep these word selections to myself.
Which I suppose leaves us at "When in unknown company, say nothing", but that would make conversation a little dull.
I think that a good rule of thumb is that if you could be reasonably concerned that what you are going to say might offend someone if you said it in a room full of 50 random people, consider whether it's worth it to say. Then say it, or not, and deal with people's comments.
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ethnic. Sorry.
But yeah, if the pirates are portuguese, by all means.
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Apparently a definition that says "probably short for Gypsy" as well as a quote of a forum post that quotes only one of at least 2 definitions of the term from a Random House publication counts as undeniable proof.
I'm not saying there's undeniable proof. I'm saying that there is an undeniable association between the words "gypped" and "gypsy"
Etymology sometimes experiences unexplainable mutations. To quote the dictionary guy: "Lexicographer's business is solely to collect, arrange, and define the words that usage presents to his hands. He has no right to proscribe words; he is to present them as they are." --Noah Webster, lexicographer (1758-1843)
And in light of that, I think it's foolish to deny the linguistic and social association that exists here.
I'm not pissed, just thought it was funny that one of the bases of your argument included that a Wiki entry would back you up, and upon googling for "wiki gypped" I was returned a page that took a shit on your argument instead.
I thought that was funny, too. While we're splitting hairs here, I was talking wikipedia, which we all know is infallible, not wiktionary, which we all know is a big lie machine created by our zionist jew overlords to enslave us. But in seriousness, we know a wiki reference is not a golden anything. I said "even wikipedia" as a way of saying that even the lazy man's reference bible would provide you with an ethnic background on the gypsies. I was referring to an encyclopedia, and you came back with a dictionary.
So boo. At least you're making reasoned arguments and you seem to have a sense of humour, which is more than can be said for a couple of people around here. Cheers.
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You're the one that stated that something he said was plucking some bullshit out the air, which is not true, and just because you lack the appropriate cultural background to appreciate what he said doesn't mean what he said is invalid. It doesn't mean you're stupid, either. Or a liar. You could, however, get a better background in language. And if you have one already, maybe you should kill yourself, because you wasted your time.
Red herring. Straw man. False comparison. Poisoning the well. Thanks, it's been great.
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The "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997) has a second theory in addition to the "gypsy" one. "GYP - According to the popular etymology, to 'gyp,' 'to cheat,' derives from the name of the much maligned gypsies, who got their name because 16th-century Englishmen erroneously assumed they hailed from Egypt..... Then there's the "Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, Volume 1, A-G" by J.E. Lighter, Random House, New York, 1994: GYP or GIP v. 1.a. to cheat; defraud; charge exorbitantly - sometimes considered offensive to the Roma (Gypsies). Now colloq. b. to disappoint. 2. to steal, filch.
There's some disagreement. But shoving wiktionary in my face is hardly a winning tactic. I suppose you've never heard people say they got "gypsied" out of something, used instead of "gypped." Lucky you. Regardless of the etymological root, it is undeniably linked to gypsies.
The point of this whole goddamn thing is that if you write an article, you want might want to avoid speech that could be considered an ethnic slur.
Consider the reviewer ending the article, "The only problem I had with this game was a scratch I put on the disc--however, a little toothpaste and nigger-rigging got everything underway!" More offensive than a gypsy reference, due to our social climate, but the reviewer still may want to consider his language. The original poster didn't get on anybody's ass about anything. Why are people so fucking pissed off about this?
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"He doesn't say that."
Yes he does.
He says it links "gypsy" to "cheap/theft." 1. not the same as "gypsy"="theft" 2. he does not create the theft assumption, it already exists. This is the same as my friend hating that big fat stupid black comedian who just did the KFC commercial. It's not because my friend's mind is dirty, it's because he is bothered by the social implications of using a Fried Chicken Loving Negro to sell your fried chicken.
With that in mind, I have no desire to respond to the "argument" of an individual who makes provably inaccurate statements like you did there.
You won't argue with people when you can provide proof against their argument? Wow, what a winner.
The Entomology of that is also questionable. It may have come into common usage in the US but it still refers back to Gypsies/Roma. Do some digging.
Plus, we're a nation of immigrants. You forgot to mention that. And micks hate the gypsies. Luckily, there aren't really that many micks in the US. Fucking micks.:D
(I'm somewhat mick myself, btw)
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if hardly anyone is aware of its origin or its possible interpretation as a racial slur, is it still a racial slur in practice? explain. Yes. You're not a gypsy. Some people are gypsies. The racial problems with many gypsies are very recent, and world-wide. If you're posting on a public international forum, then be more careful than when you're sitting around with your friends.
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What part of not giving you a raise is theft? He doesn't say that. The fact is that part of the racial discrimination against gypsies has to do with theft. Look it up. Books good. Wikipedia works, I'm sure.
So, using "gypped" is a reference to gypsy theft, like it or not. Same way that if you say some guy jewed you out of a deal, you're evoking stinginess, greediness, etc. The meaning of the word itself counts as content in the sentence, if you're wondering. Nigger-rigging is a reference to black people being lazy.
You're just trolling anyway. (sorry to all the real trolls out there)
In short, you can appeal to the "mainstream" [also known as the dumbification of society] and yet keep a technically impressive kernel behind the scenes.
I just want to point out that the dumbification of society applies to geeks who buy cars with good warranties rather than cars that are easy to work on, and geeks that buy non-stick pans and who cook on electric stoves, and myriad other geeks who do mainstreamy sort of things.
Geeks will call a particle physicist an idiot if he can't find his way around his desktop.
"Release the specs and we'll write the drivers" has been the mantra of the open source community for years, but I think we're all in for a disappointment if we're expecting feature-complete, high-performance open-source drivers for these cards any time soon.
I think that if you have a community making a decent driver, there will be enough 3D driver writers available who know the hardware well enough to delegate simple responsibilities, make good decisions, and code the hard stuff themselves. Probably. I hope.
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Men not being able to get laid is quite a similar problem to women not being able to get money. Men can always buy sex, and women can always sleep their way to cash. A socially inept man is not entitled to sex. A professionally inept woman is not entitled to a good job any more than a professionally inept man is.
I think you may have just been being facetious, but I felt the need to clarify. I find it interesting that people so readily express their disdain for an unsuccessful male, yet get upset when women are unsuccessful. Did anyone read the reviews of Knocked Up? People were pissed that the female Heigl's character was not much more than the vehicle for the main character's journey to maturity. It's HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, people! Some of the characters have to be two dimensional! Furthermore, it was a movie about the guy, not the girl. I'm upset that the stoned asian chick wasn't given a more complete role, and the horsie could've stood to be more fleshed out. While we're at it.
On another note, I was at an art gallery, and a woman I didn't know commented on how "disgusting" the fat aged male that the artist chose to portray was, stating that "he probably can't even reach his penis." What the fuck is that? If some random guy walked up to a woman at an art exhibit, and decided to bond by saying, "I can't believe the artist chose to portray such a fat, disgusting woman. I bet she can't ever reach her vagina," I would be kicked out of the establishment.
Poppycock, I tell you.
They do in Apple boot camp.
A person with the same sig posted the other day. Except it didn't have an explanation as to why Madonna was like C. So I suggested that it was that both seem 10 years younger than they are due to the diligent efforts of countless professionals. Or inherently sloppy and nested with curly braces. You get the point. Anyway, this "Fymynyst" apparently took it to heart and decided to EXPLAIN the shitty analogy rather than come up with a good one.
Oh, and I see you updated your sig since I asked what the hell it meant that she's like C.
If I could find the post, I wouldn't reiterate. Oh, well:
Through the diligent work of countless professionals looks 10 years younger than she is?
Sloppy and overrun by curly brackets?
Platform agnostic? (oh, snap! I just wrote that one! Not sure it applies to C)
Not really useful except as a fallback?
I can't remember any others. Help me out, guys.
Plus, if you're a feminist like Madonna is spiritual, I'm running you over if I ever catch you.
And why do men resort to pornography? I think it's due to similar things, which makes me think it's not discrimination. I can't remember the name of the documentary, but I think it was an HBO production, that interviewed porn actors of both genders, and their dissatisfaction with their lives was very similar regardless of gender.
People shouldn't do cocaine, either. And yet, every day, hundreds of stock brokers are driven to the drug due to the lack of understanding and love in their lives. That's right, I'm a rabid stockbrokerist, and I shant listen to reason. Or use it, for that matter.
You and I partially agree. Compare the following two scenarios:
1. Person pays another person to have sex with them. Illegal!
2. Person pays another person to act like they enjoy the sex they are having with them, films it, and has the second party sign a model release form, then charges other people to watch both parties doing it. Legal.
The only thing I can conclude is that prostitution should be legal. It's private, and it keeps smut away from children.
"Feminism" is an interesting thing. It played a very important role in liberating women. What remains to be accomplished is now somewhat abstract. My problem with "Feminists" is that they tend to exclude male sexual repression from the conversation. Not that it should be the whole of the conversation, but if you want a woman in a couple to not be sexually repressed, you need to free the male from the strictures of his mindset as well.
Here are interesting facts:
1. There are significantly more women enrolling in universities in the US today.
2. 85% of financial aid goes to women.
3. We live in a society that protects the practice of male circumcision as violently as "primitive" societies protected their practice of female circumcision.
Ahem. I'm not saying that female circumcision is ok. I'm also not saying they are equal in atrocity. I'm saying that neither is OK. On college enrollment, universities are now looking at men as a focus group that is in danger. They are working on programs to encourage men into college. I also admit that probably the military's excellent--albeit rife with misleading data--advertising campaign contributes to the reduced rate of male enrollment in universities.
But there you go.
Oh ho ho. Oh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho! Ho ho ho! Wow. Are you sure you're not Joe Lieberman? Or Tipper Gore? Censorship is horrible, and asking Internet providers to censor our data for us puts us back at the mercy of television to get our news (which is pretty pretty bad)
Why not use AOL? It's really not that bad, considering what you're looking for.
I think it's safe to assume you won't be buying one soon.
An interesting aside is that I noticed while growing up in Mexico that while the Mexicans have the same response to people belittling their country, the majority of their pride is with the people, not the government. I've thought a lot about this (hooray for me!), and I think it must be from the way their fight for freedom went.
In brief, it's a story of the corrupt government fighting the heroes of the revolution, most of whom were killed. Hidalgo, for example, was a priest involved in a conspiracy to fight the government. The typical image of Hidalgo is him ringing the church bell signalling to conspirators that they government was coming to put the resistance down. Thus ensued a bloody (I imagine fairly brief) battle, and Hidalgo and co. were lined up in front of a wall and shot. Jose Maria Morelos was president, and during a coup, he fled into the wilderness, where he stayed for several years. Los Ninos Heroes (the Hero Children) were six teenage military cadets who died defending their country from the US. The indians--armed with sticks and machetes--ran the French Army out of the country.
Even in the 5th grade textbooks they paint Carranza as a cruel dictator, but also laud him for building all the railroads.
Mexicans sort of assume their government isn't watching out for them. Salinas embezzled (in the 90s) so much money from the country that the peso devalued about 1000 fold. They have no illusions as to the intentions of those in power.
I think this is much more healthy than the view that, while the great leaders of China, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Italy, Russia, Germany, Britain, France, Spain, Japan, Korea, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Oprah etc are vile power-hungry murdering thieves, our government loves and cherishes us.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't have a couple buttons on the mac. Mac zealots piss me off. But here's a list of things unbelievably better than the options:
1. magnetic power connector (admittedly because they had the big power-connector-snapping-off-and-remaining-unsupported issue)
2. multitouch on the trackpad.
I'm just saying that calling a mac trackpad with multitouch "a trackpad with a single button" is like calling the iPhone a Blackberry with single button. Think about it.
Oh, by the way, I just saw Steve Wozniak speak at a WorkNet Pinellas event, and I am now aware where a good portion of the Apple Is A Loving God mythology comes from. That guy is freaking amazing. Wonderful talk.
whatever happened to calling something a BETA release, and noting that bug reports are appreciated? Voila!
the multitouch thing is nice. I don't own a mac, but I think it's:
one finger tap: left click
two finger tap: right click
hold left finger while dragging right finger: scroll
actually far easier to use than "a trackpad."
Right, but the BIGGEST disgrace is that WE said we were going into Iraq and that everyone will stand behind us. Then the rest of the world said they wouldn't aid us based on our shoddy premises. Then we went in ANYWAY, without the necessary backing. Giving very expensive no-bid contracts to many many people for RECONSTRUCTION, yet we didn't pay for armored hum-vees. How long have we been in Iraq? We're currently working on getting armored vehicles for the people on the ground.
That's the biggest disgrace.
On China, I think it's difficult to compare their country with our country, but I think that their government is roughly comparable to our government. The people have less historical inertia towards freedom, and are therefore less free. From what I can see, the Chinese population's freedom is growing, and ours is shrinking. I think that if you look at the description of the Chinese government, it's working well within the bounds of their self-description. Our government, however, is not working within the bounds of its self-description. So I do think our government is somewhat sicker organizationally than the Chinese. Which is not to say it's worse.
-Nathan
from the man with an even higher rate of unmodded posts than i, a true compliment.
Really, you seem to just want to insult people and use logical fallacies. Go team!
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Who's deeply offended? The conversation seems to be about the relative offensiveness of 'gypped,' which I think the consensus is that it's definitely less offensive than jewing and the n-word, but surely more offensive than a tasty cake.
People can, however, point out the relative offensiveness of something without having to themselves experience violent inner turmoil. Whenever someone uses the n-word in an inappropriate manner in my presence, I bring it up if I feel it's worth it. For example, I think calling Senator Larry Craig a faggot-basher is inoffensive, because the linguistic construct implies his disdain for homosexuals. Others (my ex, for one) find this inappropriate. I tend to keep these word selections to myself.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/r/reductio.htm
First, I think the Japanese have a mode of conduct suitable to perusing the tubes. Second, I didn't say that. Third, if you're not with us, you're a donkey's cousin. Similarly, if I think people would do service to other people by being judicious about their choice of words, I must be the kind of person suddenly overtaken by the desire to dance cheerfully about in full Nazi regalia.
I think that a good rule of thumb is that if you could be reasonably concerned that what you are going to say might offend someone if you said it in a room full of 50 random people, consider whether it's worth it to say. Then say it, or not, and deal with people's comments.
ethnic. Sorry.
But yeah, if the pirates are portuguese, by all means.
I'm not saying there's undeniable proof. I'm saying that there is an undeniable association between the words "gypped" and "gypsy"
Etymology sometimes experiences unexplainable mutations. To quote the dictionary guy:
"Lexicographer's business is solely to collect, arrange, and define the words that usage presents to his hands. He has no right to proscribe words; he is to present them as they are."
--Noah Webster, lexicographer (1758-1843)
And in light of that, I think it's foolish to deny the linguistic and social association that exists here.
I thought that was funny, too. While we're splitting hairs here, I was talking wikipedia, which we all know is infallible, not wiktionary, which we all know is a big lie machine created by our zionist jew overlords to enslave us. But in seriousness, we know a wiki reference is not a golden anything. I said "even wikipedia" as a way of saying that even the lazy man's reference bible would provide you with an ethnic background on the gypsies. I was referring to an encyclopedia, and you came back with a dictionary.
So boo. At least you're making reasoned arguments and you seem to have a sense of humour, which is more than can be said for a couple of people around here.
Cheers.
You're the one that stated that something he said was plucking some bullshit out the air, which is not true, and just because you lack the appropriate cultural background to appreciate what he said doesn't mean what he said is invalid. It doesn't mean you're stupid, either. Or a liar. You could, however, get a better background in language. And if you have one already, maybe you should kill yourself, because you wasted your time.
Red herring.
Straw man.
False comparison.
Poisoning the well.
Thanks, it's been great.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gyp
http://www.vocaboly.com/forums/ftopic4766.html
A discussion, I'm not quoting anything.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/8/messages/634.html
There's some disagreement. But shoving wiktionary in my face is hardly a winning tactic. I suppose you've never heard people say they got "gypsied" out of something, used instead of "gypped." Lucky you. Regardless of the etymological root, it is undeniably linked to gypsies.
The point of this whole goddamn thing is that if you write an article, you want might want to avoid speech that could be considered an ethnic slur.
Consider the reviewer ending the article, "The only problem I had with this game was a scratch I put on the disc--however, a little toothpaste and nigger-rigging got everything underway!" More offensive than a gypsy reference, due to our social climate, but the reviewer still may want to consider his language. The original poster didn't get on anybody's ass about anything. Why are people so fucking pissed off about this?
He says it links "gypsy" to "cheap/theft."
1. not the same as "gypsy"="theft"
2. he does not create the theft assumption, it already exists. This is the same as my friend hating that big fat stupid black comedian who just did the KFC commercial. It's not because my friend's mind is dirty, it's because he is bothered by the social implications of using a Fried Chicken Loving Negro to sell your fried chicken.
You won't argue with people when you can provide proof against their argument? Wow, what a winner.
Plus, we're a nation of immigrants. You forgot to mention that. And micks hate the gypsies. Luckily, there aren't really that many micks in the US. Fucking micks.
(I'm somewhat mick myself, btw)
if hardly anyone is aware of its origin or its possible interpretation as a racial slur, is it still a racial slur in practice? explain.
Yes. You're not a gypsy. Some people are gypsies. The racial problems with many gypsies are very recent, and world-wide. If you're posting on a public international forum, then be more careful than when you're sitting around with your friends.
What part of not giving you a raise is theft?
He doesn't say that. The fact is that part of the racial discrimination against gypsies has to do with theft. Look it up. Books good. Wikipedia works, I'm sure.
So, using "gypped" is a reference to gypsy theft, like it or not. Same way that if you say some guy jewed you out of a deal, you're evoking stinginess, greediness, etc. The meaning of the word itself counts as content in the sentence, if you're wondering. Nigger-rigging is a reference to black people being lazy.
You're just trolling anyway. (sorry to all the real trolls out there)
I just want to point out that the dumbification of society applies to geeks who buy cars with good warranties rather than cars that are easy to work on, and geeks that buy non-stick pans and who cook on electric stoves, and myriad other geeks who do mainstreamy sort of things.
Geeks will call a particle physicist an idiot if he can't find his way around his desktop.
I think that if you have a community making a decent driver, there will be enough 3D driver writers available who know the hardware well enough to delegate simple responsibilities, make good decisions, and code the hard stuff themselves. Probably. I hope.