Greed led to the telegraph, telephone, electric light, automobile, airplane, and integrated circuit.
I'd be more inclined to say:
Necessity is the mother of invention, and invention is in the realm of engineering and science where the work encompasses an area of scientific study.
Business just arranges the exchange of goods.
We "need" business, but for sustainability into the infinite future we have finite resources and making trash mountains is not a good game plan.
During much of the Cold War, the lifespan of most aircraft was less than a decade of front-line service; today, the F-15 and F-16 form the backbone of the USAF fighter complement, and the designs are more than 30 years old.
I was working in the oil industry a decade ago, when the price of oil was a fifth of what it is now, and they had people researching old wells even then.
If you still think I am full of it I will offer you a quiz to see if you really watched it.
If at that point you pass and still don't believe then I'll just have to remember ppl have a right to their own opinion be it wrong or right and you can say the same for me.
is it so goddamned hard not to type out "people" ?
Well see, I sensed a disturbance in the force and knew that someone out there would see "ppl" and not realize that shorthand is used in the court system.
So, just for you, I typed it out as ppl.
Because of the use of ppl I saved time until this became important to you.
You will see ppl abbreviate Sat., Sun., Mon., etc etc.
In fact etc, it a abbreviation for Etcetera.
So I'd make sure and write all the Unix and Linux early developers and let them know that/ETC needs to be fixed NOW !!!
Engineering things well costs more, and all the DRM crap is just so they can extend control, and maximize profit.
If things stay as they are we will never see a Star Trek like civilization because we are too wrapped up in making money and actually engineering things to NOT last so they can sell more.
The disposable lifestyle is on a collision course with sustainability, and humans are not going to like the outcome.
Government leaders in the US have meetings voicing huge concerns over the monster landfills, and running out of places to dump all the garbage.
If we do not start engineering EVERYTHING for sustainability, we are going to have some serious issues down the road.
I know ppl working in the oilfield who are paid to research old wells so they can go back and try to drill deeper even though the vast majority of the time they find NOTHING.
You don't do that unless there are serious problems looming.
In the next few years you will see the price of food double or triple, and anything made of plastic will as well.
"Suits" are just like the carpetbaggers that took advantage of ppl after the civil war, and they have no soul, and don't care who is screwed over in their infernal quest for share price, and revenue.
Ppl like this are more and more prevalent in business:
It's time to fix this pump and dump shell game of billion dollar white collar crime for all eternity.
The price of oil isn't just $135/barrel, add on the cost of Team America - World Police, and these so called businessman are in power due to "The Good Old Boy Network"
I am willing to bet 1 USD on the fact that this invention will not turn out to be churning out energy using nuclear fusion. Payments will be done through paypal if anyone is willing to bet 1 USD on that this invention will prove to be generating energy from nuclear fusion.
Actually another scientist was trying to beat them to their announcement.
Also it was not the 2 of them that called it Cold Fusion.
Scientists around the world were able to reproduce the excess heat AND some, the tritium levels given a 3 week ramp up period.
Some scientists in japan that let it run for awhile saw transmutation of metals.
Helium-4 has been registered as present at SRI.
The US government project was given only 2 weeks to reproduce, and thus did not see it, it was a project lead by biased hot fusion scientists that had huge budgets at stake.
Some ppl realize that if this occurs, hundreds if not thousands of ppl will be losing their jobs, and 40 billion dollars put into hot fusion so far will dry up.
The US Navy at the SPAWAR facility has verified that there is "something" going on and it has warranted further research.
Most businesses buy the PC and it comes pre-installed with Vista.
When it gets to their facility they have a Volume License and image the machine with XP.
They use Sysprep or equivalent to deal with unique SID issues, and they go from there.
Most companies are fed up with waiting for the last service pack after several years to close the majority of the gaping holes.
So they don't jump on the latest Service Pack Zero OS from MS.
As a former employee of Dell let me tell you that on the Idea Storm site setup by Dell for its customers a massive outcry for the return of XP led to the return of XP on some Dell machines.
It would be all Dell machines if not for severe arm twisting from MS.
I would put my bet on some indian guy or anti-american guy who noted the sarcasm in the fact that somebody from the US was accusing another country of polluting Earth...
I'd say you caught the eye of the troll, and got modded troll by him as well.
He must have been VERY offended.
Well for the troll, I got some bad news.
A LOT of countries all over the world as less than kind to the environment so get over yourself.
Also besides storing the power, the sun is up somewhere in the world and can make power, so spread the power generation across all 24 time zones and use long haul transmission.
So all those Anti-solar idiots out there can stop fondling their fossil fuel shares, and face the fact that 3% of the Sahara at 40% efficiency could replace all other forms of power on earth alone.
Spread it across all 24 time zones and the sun never sets on all the solar plants at once.
All this half bakery about how there is no power from the sun makes me laugh hysterically as 120,000 Terawatts is available and all power used on earth of all forms was 15 Terawatts in 2005.
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Greed led to the telegraph, telephone, electric light, automobile, airplane, and integrated circuit.
I'd be more inclined to say:
Necessity is the mother of invention, and invention
is in the realm of engineering and science where the
work encompasses an area of scientific study.
Business just arranges the exchange of goods.
We "need" business, but for sustainability into the
infinite future we have finite resources and making
trash mountains is not a good game plan.
During much of the Cold War, the lifespan of most aircraft was less than a decade of front-line service; today, the F-15 and F-16 form the backbone of the USAF fighter complement, and the designs are more than 30 years old.
The B-52, 56 years thus far.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-52
I was working in the oil industry a decade ago, when the price of oil was a fifth of what it is now, and they had people researching old wells even then.
You should watch Crude Awakening:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8183966529898602701&q=crude+awakening&ei=m6Q9SISlBYeQ4wKU8ZXsAw&hl=en
After you watch if let me know what you think.
If you still think I am full of it I will offer
you a quiz to see if you really watched it.
If at that point you pass and still don't believe
then I'll just have to remember ppl have a right
to their own opinion be it wrong or right and you
can say the same for me.
is it so goddamned hard not to type out "people" ?
/ETC needs
Well see, I sensed a disturbance in the force and
knew that someone out there would see "ppl" and
not realize that shorthand is used in the court system.
So, just for you, I typed it out as ppl.
Because of the use of ppl I saved time until
this became important to you.
You will see ppl abbreviate Sat., Sun., Mon., etc etc.
In fact etc, it a abbreviation for Etcetera.
So I'd make sure and write all the Unix and Linux
early developers and let them know that
to be fixed NOW !!!
And that it is a plague upon humanity...
Or not...
Also, One Rsync variation uses a Delta copy method where it only
copies over the data that has changed even at a file level.
Ex: a 700mb movie file is slightly edited, it does not
recopy the whole movie file, just the diff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync#Variations
Thus can make for faster backups.
Just in case you were wondering why businessmen run the world.
Bullshit...
They run it due to greed, period.
Ppl are upset and raise hell over it, ppl find Dilbert
hilarious because they see relational irony in it.
The only ppl that want that are the corrupt paid off power
brokers in DC that got elected on false promises, and
by screwing the American ppl.
Ask the "people" in India if they wanted the Union Carbide Disaster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster
Engineering things well costs more, and all the DRM crap is
just so they can extend control, and maximize profit.
If things stay as they are we will never see a Star Trek like
civilization because we are too wrapped up in making money
and actually engineering things to NOT last so they can sell more.
The disposable lifestyle is on a collision course with
sustainability, and humans are not going to like the outcome.
Government leaders in the US have meetings voicing huge concerns
over the monster landfills, and running out of places to dump
all the garbage.
If we do not start engineering EVERYTHING for sustainability,
we are going to have some serious issues down the road.
I know ppl working in the oilfield who are paid to research old
wells so they can go back and try to drill deeper even though
the vast majority of the time they find NOTHING.
You don't do that unless there are serious problems looming.
In the next few years you will see the price of food double
or triple, and anything made of plastic will as well.
"Suits" are just like the carpetbaggers that took advantage
of ppl after the civil war, and they have no soul, and don't
care who is screwed over in their infernal quest for share
price, and revenue.
Ppl like this are more and more prevalent in business:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Milken
It's time to fix this pump and dump shell game of billion
dollar white collar crime for all eternity.
The price of oil isn't just $135/barrel, add on the cost of
Team America - World Police, and these so called businessman
are in power due to "The Good Old Boy Network"
I think the problem is that Fleischmann and Pons [wikipedia.org] gave the entire field a bad name by seeking publicity (if true?)
The deal was another scientist with the last name of jones got
wind of their experiment as was going to announce ahead of them.
So they announced early, ill prepared, and looked it too.
To me the verification of Tritium in most major countries
around the world in independent experiments is all I needed to see.
The excess heat, and helium-4 present in excess of background
levels also nails it.
I am willing to bet 1 USD on the fact that this invention will not turn out to be churning out energy using nuclear fusion. Payments will be done through paypal if anyone is willing to bet 1 USD on that this invention will prove to be generating energy from nuclear fusion.
You might want to retract your post if you can.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2843914499166355574&q=spawar&ei=_u85SLqwMoic4QLMi8TfAw&hl=en
Yes, the US navy agrees something is going on.
They also say they do not 100% understand it, but it
looks very promising.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2843914499166355574&q=spawar&ei=_u85SLqwMoic4QLMi8TfAw&hl=en
This is correct, verification here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion#Criteria_and_candidates_for_terrestrial_reactions
I think you will find that Nuclear Fusion does not occur
just one way, and that the byproducts can vary thus the
search for clean fusion via helium-4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion#Criteria_and_candidates_for_terrestrial_reactions
The Helium-4 fusion crowd based alot of their hopes off the
large quantity of helium-4 on the moon.
If a clean reaction can be achieved in this manner, than
perhaps it is of a similar variety.
Also keep in mind that many scientists from around the world
have verified the Tritium levels.
As smart as we are, we still have a lot to learn.
The US Navy has also had some success:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2843914499166355574&q=spawar&ei=gus5SPnZGoXw4QKq2vXlAw&hl=en
Wanna bet.. Governments wont allow that.
The upcoming energy crisis will force some of the
governments overseas to pursue this further.
I am thinking Japan, China, India who all have
bright scientists, and some are involved in the
research going forward.
The US Navy also paid for this experiment:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2843914499166355574&q=spawar&ei=gus5SPnZGoXw4QKq2vXlAw&hl=en
And it paid off.
Actually another scientist was trying to beat them to their
announcement.
Also it was not the 2 of them that called it Cold Fusion.
Scientists around the world were able to reproduce the
excess heat AND some, the tritium levels given a
3 week ramp up period.
Some scientists in japan that let it run for awhile saw
transmutation of metals.
Helium-4 has been registered as present at SRI.
The US government project was given only 2 weeks to reproduce,
and thus did not see it, it was a project lead by biased
hot fusion scientists that had huge budgets at stake.
Some ppl realize that if this occurs, hundreds if not thousands
of ppl will be losing their jobs, and 40 billion dollars put
into hot fusion so far will dry up.
The US Navy at the SPAWAR facility has verified that there
is "something" going on and it has warranted further research.
They even have a video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2843914499166355574&q=spawar&ei=gus5SPnZGoXw4QKq2vXlAw&hl=en
Watch "The war on cold fusion"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5214938694909002743&q=the+war+on+cold+fusion&ei=Exo4SOt6iJzhAsyLxN8D&hl=en
Also watch the US Navy SPAWAR experiments:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2843914499166355574&q=spawar+%22cold+fusion%22&ei=4hk4SNzaMIvS4QLYy53pAw&hl=en
It may not be "cold fusion" but they have proof of excess
heat and other signs of nuclear process.
Some of the scientists involved are well respected too.
Consider all evidence before passing final judgement.
Most businesses buy the PC and it comes pre-installed with Vista.
When it gets to their facility they have a Volume License
and image the machine with XP.
They use Sysprep or equivalent to deal with unique SID issues,
and they go from there.
Most companies are fed up with waiting for the last service pack
after several years to close the majority of the gaping holes.
So they don't jump on the latest Service Pack Zero OS from MS.
As a former employee of Dell let me tell you that on the
Idea Storm site setup by Dell for its customers a massive
outcry for the return of XP led to the return of XP on some
Dell machines.
It would be all Dell machines if not for severe arm twisting from MS.
Nuff' said.
Free AVG and Avast are two u missed.
You might look here:
http://www.goldenmotor.com/
http://www.nusun.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=64
Good Luck, I am considering building a 4 wheel model,
because it could carry more batteries and keep me out
of the rain and carry groceries.
More of a cart really, lol.
And yes, that is sarcasm.
No NUKES is GOOD NUKES
Well if the nukes got rid of all the bad ppl
then I'd have to disagree with ya.
But right now all we have are dumb nukes that kill
good ppl too.
They say they got smart bombs, maybe they can
make smart nukes someday.
I would put my bet on some indian guy or anti-american guy who noted the sarcasm in the fact that somebody from the US was accusing another country of polluting Earth ...
I'd say you caught the eye of the troll, and got modded troll
by him as well.
He must have been VERY offended.
Well for the troll, I got some bad news.
A LOT of countries all over the world as less than kind
to the environment so get over yourself.
at least BOFH knows what the hell he's doing... i fear upper management.
No shit on this one, after my recent stint with Dell they
didn't fire the dumb asses in upper management til AFTER I quit.
At least they can make a course correction, albeit a slow one.
Oh yeah, Oklahoma has massive natural gas wells.
Some were so massive when they came in they caused minor earthquakes.
There are literally dozens if not hundreds of them.
Oklahoma is the 3rd largest Natural Gas producer in the US.
Suprised we use any coal at all.
High power tornadoes are extremely rare.
I live in the center of tornado alley, and my house
is 55 years old, and my friend's house is 70+ years old.
Neither of these houses have been hit by a F0-F5.
Some day that will happen, but I may not be alive to see it.
There are lots of homes around me that are over 50 years
old and none of them have been hit.
A few areas in central Oklahoma seems to be a tornado magnet
Moore and Edmond, some areas almost never get hit,like Norman.
I have no idea why, just a observation of the last 20 yrs.
Oklahoma is building windmills like mad, and I think it is great.
Texas, Iowa, and the Dakotas as well.
The big multi-megawatt turbines are cost effective as long
as the weather doesn't destroy too many of them.
Pretty lucky here as well, 7.68 cents a KWh and it is
natural gas here in Oklahoma.
Yeah in cloudy parts of Europe the non barage tidal generators
might be the trick as the clouds don't effect the tides.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_power
You could also put solar power plants in different areas of
the EU and use long haul transmission to carry it to
areas covered by clouds.
Long distance losses are around 7.2% in the US.
Also besides storing the power, the sun is up somewhere in the
world and can make power, so spread the power generation
across all 24 time zones and use long haul transmission.
The long haul losses for the US are about 7.2%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission#Losses
So all those Anti-solar idiots out there can stop fondling
their fossil fuel shares, and face the fact that 3% of
the Sahara at 40% efficiency could replace all other forms
of power on earth alone.
Spread it across all 24 time zones and the sun never sets
on all the solar plants at once.
All this half bakery about how there is no power from the
sun makes me laugh hysterically as 120,000 Terawatts is
available and all power used on earth of all forms
was 15 Terawatts in 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption#Solar_power
Solar Thermal is effective now, and wind is intermittent.
At anytime, everyday, the sun is up somewhere, and if the
sun stops coming up you got bigger problems to worry about.
solar could maybe provide 10% of our needs at most.
Yeah, not much solar power hits the earth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_energy#Energy_from_the_Sun
2.5 acres makes 354 Mega Watts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEGS
I swear your daddy must work for big oil, or you are just
as smart as a bag of hammers.