Combustion engines have for the most part reached the peak of their efficiency and fuel cells even now are more efficient and are relatively new on a consumer scale.
They have been around since the early NASA days, but only recently has research made them more flexible, more affordable, and easier to mass produce and make lighter/smaller.
So small in fact that methane fuel cells are in line to power cell phones and other hand helds much longer.
They could cross the VW 239 mpg diesel 1 litre prototype with this tech, and the Hyper Car tech from the Rocky Mountain institute and make a Diesel Electric Fuel Cell Hybrid that would get 400 mpg , LOL
E85 is state mandated and being deployed because gas is very high.
For ethanol to really work gas has to be over $1.50 a gal I believe with current technology.
E85 is 15% gasoline, and could most likely free use from middle east oil . What most ppl do not know is the US imports most of its oil from Canada.
Also there is the hydrogen fuel cell cars that are looming ever closer.
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
This site has the best proof of concept in my mind.
Viable hydrogen fuel via natural gas refracturers located at fuel stations.
For the true veggie oil car, you want the grease car conversion which can be done to any diesel based car for around $800 last I heard from the articles on slashdot itself.
Get yourself a diesel VW and do the Grease car conversion and save yourself a small fortune in fuel costs by driving on fryer grease from fast food places.
There are even some lists going around nationwide of places that will let you use their fryer grease for free.
You just need to run on diesel long enough to get the engine warmed up and then cut over to grease/oil usage.
The grease car story was a big hit on slashdot.
http://www.greasecar.com/
Has alot of info on it, hit google for much more.
Your $300/month fuel bill would be more like $30 worth of diesel.
Li-Ion batteries are bad for electric cars long term.
Fuel Cells are the answer, and it is just a matter of time before cell fuels like they plan for cell phones will be available for electric cars.
I even see fuel cells now at Lowe's for electric hand tools.
Methane or Hydrogen Fuel cells will work well, and we can get methane from sewer gas or rotting garbage.
I hope for the sake of all humanity the Chinese see this and make the fuel cell powered electric car cheap and available around the world, and make the trillion dollars it will give them and put the middle east out of business for good.
This could be the end of foreign oil if it would scale to a reasonable cost and refueling were not an issue.
We just are not willing to pay for it, and everyone driving to work at roughly the same time is not necessary.
Companies could have 3 times the employees with the same bldg and terminals/computers, or scaled down to infrastructure 1/3rd its current size and save on heating and cooling due to bldg size.
24 hour operations also allow you to keep working on projects around the clock, and not everyone, but some ppl actually like working at night because you tend to get more done when the usual crowd is not around begging you to do their work for them because they do not know how.
Some major metro areas asked companies to offer staggered shifts, and telecommute options to ease the burden.
Telecommute will not work for all ppl, some ppl end up paralyzed workwise due to their families.
Mass Transit works moderately well in "some" cities, but it is typically the larger population centers.
Most of the US is wide open spaces with cities stretched out like Houston or Dallas/Ft. Worth.
Dallas is trying to get decent Mass Transit, but it is a work in progress.
I think California with its massive population located mostly on the coast would be great for a Earthquake proof monorail type system.
Interconnect bldgs above street level with sky bridges, this way ppl will not get hit by cars, buses, or have to stand waiting at street level stop lights.
It's easier to elevate the foot traffic than the cars.
You can take a monorail/elevated train to a cluster of bldgs then walk the sky bridge to your specific bldg.
Some cities already have these modern bldgs with aerial walkways between bldgs, they are nice especially when the weather is bad.
The US transportation issue needs to be solved on many levels, computer controlled cars for 1 person to ride to work is a bit of a waste in reality.
Cities with nightmare traffic like LA/NYC/Chicago need to look at better mass transit ASAP.
Take this a step further, how much damage is done by those OUT OF STATE semi-tractor trailers that are overloaded beyond their maximum legal weight limit.
I cannot even imagine how many semi's go in and out of California via I-40 alone , prolly a metric $hitload.
I think hybrids and diesel's that get over 40 mpg should be immune to the idea altogether.
A great deal of the Aegean Sea is rife with fault lines, and volcanoes.
A mostly submerged volcano forming an Atoll on the surface would submerge with a earthquake of major magnitude, and underwater magma entombing the evidence for all time.
As for lack of records of Atlantis with other civilizations, maybe they made the choice of limiting their contact with the outside world like some isolationist policies.
There are a great number of islands in the Aegean, and some smaller ones do not even show up on most modern maps.
Just like the Bahamas has several thousand islands and most ppl do not even know it.
Only in modern day did they dive and find some of the main pillars to the lighthouse at alexandria in fairly shallow water.
The ocean is a BIG and unforgiven place.
Keep in mind how long it took to find the titanic
and we basically knew where it was located.
Scientifically it is hammered into our brains to disbelieve by default til evidence proves otherwise . I do not say it is fact, I say it is greatly probably.
I think one or more major finds will come pass of cities or civilizations that will amaze many around the world.
Underwater and high in the mountains in countries that are 3rd world and remote.
As Engineers and coders etc etc, we tend to take alot of things as granted, and already understood ie. intuitive for our mindset.
But for the common man sometimes it does not jive.
If you think that alot of ppl still have flashing 12:00 on their VCR's its gonna take some serious simplicity to get past their (fear?) of the technical or just grasp of it.
I think monitoring computer usage amongst beginners and maybe even intermediates could show were ppl are frustrating themselves, and perhaps tools that could be provided to ease the road more travelled , ie. the electronic office/school/home.
Ergonomics is for human physical comfort, this might provide one for mental comfort of sorts.
Best example I can offer is tech manuals that leave out a step that is obvious to the person that wrote it or coded the app, but leaves the first time user sitting there thinking its obvious something was left out, but not sure how to proceed.
Computer literacy is still pretty weak IMHO, and on the level of Linux and nomenclature of OS subcomponents even more so.
The more we understand the users, the better we can adapt the interface.
This is the same group that pushed thru doubling H1-B visa cap limit from 100,000 to 200,000 in the year 2000 after the DOT BOMB was recognized to have gone off.
I agree with this Anonympus post... The US is the largest provider
of foreign aid in the World, it has remained so since after World War 2.
The US is the only nation I currently know of that helped the country that suprise attacked them at pearl harbor build a world class auto manufacturing apparatus that dwarfs the monolithic car makers of the US.
We did all we could to help see the re-unification of germany, and so it came to pass under a republican who out spent the russians . Mr. Gorbachev tore down the wall.
Alot of bad things have been done on both sides of the big pond, but odds are u'd be speaking russian, german, or japanese without the US.
It's true we are not the same country as we were in the 1940's, but it is not the same world either.
Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex, and I FIRMLY agrre with him and expand its reach to all corporations anywhere that influence governments . Saddam was a piece of crap, and his sons were crazier than he was.
We gave him over a decade to come clean and cooperate, but it was just not his way of doing business . The UN wrote and signed the over dozen resolutions against him.
Saddam bribed French and UN officials with oil vouchers, and the rest is history . The French will OK genocide for the right price . ( Kurds ) I wonder if the oilfields in the Sudan are keeping ppl from sending help there.
The French sold saddam his 1st atempt at a nuclear reactor, the israeli's blew it up.
The UN is the 2nd attempt at the League of Nations, the League of Nations was dissolved because of petty bickering and the fact that it did little real good beyond making lots of speeches and printing lots of paper.
The UN is the step child of the League of Nations, it can do good in the world or it can let things like the Sudan go on, and on, Like Rwanda, etc etc etc . The UN is crap.
It has great potential to be much much more, but human nature and selfish self centered isolationism and apathy will win the day.
The US coporations have sent all their manufacturing overseas, and alot of their IT work too, and more to follow.
The US can expel every visa worker, and put sanctions on businesses doing business on foreign soil, and it would bring it all back and the US would boom again.
As for the oil, it would hurt the US for a short while if the oil was cut off . There would be mandantory rationing, and we could save about 20% just by switching to a 4 day work week.
Further more, we could mandate all fleet vehicles to be E-85/E-95 flex fuel, and restart our dying farming communities for making corn oil for a hybrid fuel.
Fracturing natural gas for hydrogen at local filling stations is the main success point in the green parties plan to move the US in the direction of hydrogen . Scientists have looked at the plan and it is viable and workable.
Hydrogen powered Hybrid-Eletrics could replace 20-50% of US cars in 10 years if a tax break equal to the one for SUV's was given.
Bush is one man, Congress and the House can bypass him by getting enough votes to do so.
Some ppl were found to be alive and well in towns that were completely wiped out by the black plague, they did some gene research and linked it to the specific marker CCR5 Delta 32, and those ppl that had the marker from both lines of their parents were immune, and if just one were resisitant and had a chance of living through the black plague but contracting it.
The ppl that had both markers from both parents were immune.
They found this same gene mutations has the same effect with AIDs as it blocks the uptake process needed to do its terrible process.
We are not going to transistion to hydrogen overnight, not even close.
Most ppl will want their gas powered cars for a few decades to come if for any other reason than cost.
In a decade or two, or three, more clean power will be developed like Bubble Fusion(proven) or Cold Fusion(unproven)
Tidal Generators at the Bay of Fundy alone could make more power than all the dams on earth combined . Just need to make them underwater turbines so as not to destroy the sea floor like the large french one is doing in their country.
Wind Farms and Solar farms sometimes have excess power, it could be used to make hydrogen, and I still think the massive amounts of sewer gas world wide could be used for energy.
There are PLENTY of alternative power sources.
Just think if we developed a way to capture the majority of the power from the majority of land based lightning in the world.
I am not saying it would be easy, but then again the amount of
effort/money it took to make the manhattan project or the apollo project could be applied to make us less oil dependant.
Notice I did not say oil free, we will still use it for lubricant, plastic, and what not.
The keyboard, mouse, and monitor in front of you is made of plastic, as is your cell phone, cd's, dvd's, tires, etc etc etc.
Oil is used to make most exterior paint too.
We can move to alternative energy FULLY in the next 50 years, but it is going to take a MAJOR commitment by the powers that be.
I think it will be resisted due to the three most powerful emotions of human beings.
1)Greed 2)Fear 3)Apathy ; Greed of the powers that be.
Fear of the powers that be they will lose their power and wealth for them and their children, etc etc, Drop in stock value, etc etc
Apathy of the common man who would rather watch (x)ball, as they take a animal skin and bash it about on a grass field on the ground or in the air . Total expediture for all the various ball related sports being TRILLIONS of dollars world wide.
If we put in 10% the effort that went into sports from pee-wee league to the pro leagues, we'd be off oil as a fuel in 20 years or less . But it isn't gonna happen, no way, no how.
Call me cynical, and sarcastic, I will wear it like a badge of friggin courage.
The best places are where you can use the terrain to compress the wind via hills and mountains, and then funnel it thru passes in the mountains and setup a windfarm there.
Going north from the Texas panhandle into colorado is the Raton Pass, and for the man that builds a windfarm there money is waiting.
Some other mountains here in the US see horrendous wind speeds, and would make great places for VERY sturdy wind turbine designs.
Like some posters have said, use excess off peak power for catalytic conversion of water to hydrogen and oxygen, and use for fuel cells later, or as other posters put it simply pump water to highly elevated storage tanks or resevoirs, and then use the highly elevated water to run a water turbine when the wind is down.
Storing energy in batteries is not really practical til we get super conductivity better in hand cost/use wise.
As to the cost for wind, if it gets every last US soldier out of the middle east, then I'd say we can afford it.
Making oil worth very little is prolly our best defense against being held hostage by it.
Electricity is already sent over VERY long distances at 100's of thousands of volts over high power transmission conductor.
Utilities of different states even sell power to each other from time to time, it was one of the scams Enron got in on because so much money traded hands.
California in the mean time got screwed on the deal because they refused to build ANY kind of new generation plants in their state and when demand was high, so was the price.
Target ur high use markets and lay out the wind power farms in those areas.
In areas where there is a tremendous amount of water moving, make more hydro electric dams.
Most of the power in Las Vegas comes from the Dam at lake Mead.
Cover Death Valley in Solar panels is another option.
Install underwater water turbines at the mouth of the Bay of Fundy could power the entire eastern seaboard, Canada's as well.
Hydraulic tidal pumps would be less invasive for the ppl that don't like the underwater turbine idea like they are using in malaysia to generate power underwater.
There are tons of ways to fix our energy needs that do not require oil, but as long as there are ppl wanting to get rich of their billions they already invested in oil, its not gonna go away for a fairly long while.
Maybe Bubble fusion in duerated accetone will free us from the beast that is oil.
Wind energy is the kinetic energy of large masses of air moving over the earth. Because the sun heats the earth's surface and atmosphere unevenly, thermal differences develop, which drive air masses around the planet. The earth's rotation also contributes to powerful air currents.
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They can now do it automated, BMW does it for the roof section of the
new M5 with carbon fiber .
As for lightweighting, here are the details and their reasoning .
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http://www.hypercar.com/pages/lightweighting.ph
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Combustion engines have for the most part reached the peak .
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of their efficiency and fuel cells even now are more efficient
and are relatively new on a consumer scale
They have been around since the early NASA days, but only recently
has research made them more flexible, more affordable, and
easier to mass produce and make lighter/smaller
So small in fact that methane fuel cells are in line to power
cell phones and other hand helds much longer
http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/FuelCellToday/Indu
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Hyper Car is reasonable and driveable, and does well to beat .
the fuel efficiency requirements to make it viable
Chk it out:
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
Ex-MislTech
Batteries are basically a bad idea .
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The fuel cell in a car like this and like the Hyper Car or even
a diesel electric hybrid of the VW 1 Litre 239 mpg concept car
would work VERY well
Hyper car : ( good fuel cell info )
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
239 mpg VW 1 litre diesel
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/02/032
Take all the tech from all three ideas and it will end the need
for foreign oil for ALL time
As Hydrogen becomes more viable as a fuel this hybrid diesel electric
could then run on hydrogen exclusively
It would be awesome
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
They could cross the VW 239 mpg diesel 1 litre prototype
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with this tech, and the Hyper Car tech from the Rocky
Mountain institute and make a Diesel Electric Fuel Cell
Hybrid that would get 400 mpg , LOL
http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/vw/V
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/12/02/032
Hyper Car:
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
The odds of them really doing it, pretty damn slim, LOL
Sad but true
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
E85 is state mandated and being deployed because gas is very high .
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For ethanol to really work gas has to be over $1.50 a gal I believe
with current technology
E85 is 15% gasoline, and could most likely free use from middle
east oil . What most ppl do not know is the US imports most of
its oil from Canada
Also there is the hydrogen fuel cell cars that are looming ever closer.
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
This site has the best proof of concept in my mind
Viable hydrogen fuel via natural gas refracturers located at fuel
stations
For the true veggie oil car, you want the grease car conversion
which can be done to any diesel based car for around $800 last I
heard from the articles on slashdot itself
http://www.greasecar.com/
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
The regenerative braking energy can be used via electrolysis .
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to make stored hydrogen which can be used as fuel
That is the design for the Hyper Car designed by the
Rocky Mountain Institute
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Get yourself a diesel VW and do the Grease car conversion and .
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save yourself a small fortune in fuel costs by driving on
fryer grease from fast food places
There are even some lists going around nationwide of places that
will let you use their fryer grease for free
You just need to run on diesel long enough to get the engine warmed
up and then cut over to grease/oil usage
The grease car story was a big hit on slashdot
http://www.greasecar.com/
Has alot of info on it, hit google for much more
Your $300/month fuel bill would be more like $30 worth of diesel
Also VW Turbo Diesel Engines get around 50 mpg
Give it some thought, hope it helps ya out !!!
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Take it one better ...
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Drive to work, charge for 8 hours or more @ work
Drive home, charge all night
While driving or parked, solar cells on hood/roof/trunk charge
the car up
Also while at work, a 2nd set of Fuel Cells/"x" electrical
storage device could be charging @ home
Fuel cells will be infinitely better than batteries, and are
already targetted to replace batteries on cell phones
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid386.php
Has good info on car plans for electric fuel cell cars
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Forget batteries, they plan on methane fuel cells for cell phones, .
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and thus should likewise for cars
Batteries are a bad idea all the way around
Take this car and merge it with good fuel cells, and you
got yourself a winner
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Li-Ion batteries are bad for electric cars long term .
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Fuel Cells are the answer, and it is just a matter of time
before cell fuels like they plan for cell phones will be
available for electric cars
I even see fuel cells now at Lowe's for electric hand tools
Methane or Hydrogen Fuel cells will work well, and we can get
methane from sewer gas or rotting garbage
I hope for the sake of all humanity the Chinese see this and
make the fuel cell powered electric car cheap and available
around the world, and make the trillion dollars it will give them
and put the middle east out of business for good
This could be the end of foreign oil if it would scale to a
reasonable cost and refueling were not an issue
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Highway growth can exceed population growth .
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We just are not willing to pay for it, and everyone driving to
work at roughly the same time is not necessary
Companies could have 3 times the employees with the same bldg
and terminals/computers, or scaled down to infrastructure 1/3rd
its current size and save on heating and cooling due to bldg size
24 hour operations also allow you to keep working on projects
around the clock, and not everyone, but some ppl actually like
working at night because you tend to get more done when the usual
crowd is not around begging you to do their work for them because
they do not know how
Some major metro areas asked companies to offer staggered shifts,
and telecommute options to ease the burden
Telecommute will not work for all ppl, some ppl end up paralyzed
workwise due to their families
Mass Transit works moderately well in "some" cities, but it is
typically the larger population centers
Most of the US is wide open spaces with cities stretched out like
Houston or Dallas/Ft. Worth
Dallas is trying to get decent Mass Transit, but it is a work in
progress
I think California with its massive population located mostly on
the coast would be great for a Earthquake proof monorail type system.
Interconnect bldgs above street level with sky bridges, this way
ppl will not get hit by cars, buses, or have to stand waiting
at street level stop lights
It's easier to elevate the foot traffic than the cars
You can take a monorail/elevated train to a cluster of bldgs
then walk the sky bridge to your specific bldg
Some cities already have these modern bldgs with aerial walkways
between bldgs, they are nice especially when the weather is bad.
The US transportation issue needs to be solved on many levels,
computer controlled cars for 1 person to ride to work is a bit
of a waste in reality
Cities with nightmare traffic like LA/NYC/Chicago need to look
at better mass transit ASAP.
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
Take this a step further, how much damage is done by those .
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OUT OF STATE semi-tractor trailers that are overloaded
beyond their maximum legal weight limit
I cannot even imagine how many semi's go in and out of California via I-40 alone , prolly a metric $hitload
I think hybrids and diesel's that get over 40 mpg should be immune to
the idea altogether
Just a thought,
Ex-MislTech
A great deal of the Aegean Sea is rife with .
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fault lines, and volcanoes
A mostly submerged volcano forming an Atoll on
the surface would submerge with a earthquake
of major magnitude, and underwater magma
entombing the evidence for all time
As for lack of records of Atlantis with other
civilizations, maybe they made the choice of
limiting their contact with the outside world
like some isolationist policies
There are a great number of islands in the
Aegean, and some smaller ones do not even show
up on most modern maps
Just like the Bahamas has several thousand
islands and most ppl do not even know it
Only in modern day did they dive and find
some of the main pillars to the lighthouse
at alexandria in fairly shallow water
The ocean is a BIG and unforgiven place
Keep in mind how long it took to find the titanic
and we basically knew where it was located
Scientifically it is hammered into our brains to
disbelieve by default til evidence proves
otherwise . I do not say it is fact, I say
it is greatly probably
I think one or more major finds will come pass
of cities or civilizations that will amaze many
around the world
Underwater and high in the mountains in countries
that are 3rd world and remote
I look forard to it greatly
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
As Engineers and coders etc etc, we tend to take alot of things .
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as granted, and already understood ie. intuitive for our mindset
But for the common man sometimes it does not jive
If you think that alot of ppl still have flashing 12:00 on their VCR's
its gonna take some serious simplicity to get past their (fear?) of
the technical or just grasp of it
I think monitoring computer usage amongst beginners and maybe even
intermediates could show were ppl are frustrating themselves, and
perhaps tools that could be provided to ease the road more
travelled , ie. the electronic office/school/home
Ergonomics is for human physical comfort, this might provide
one for mental comfort of sorts
Best example I can offer is tech manuals that leave out a step
that is obvious to the person that wrote it or coded the app,
but leaves the first time user sitting there thinking its obvious
something was left out, but not sure how to proceed
Computer literacy is still pretty weak IMHO, and on the level of
Linux and nomenclature of OS subcomponents even more so
The more we understand the users, the better we can adapt the
interface
Ex-MislTech
This is the same group that pushed thru doubling H1-B visa .
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cap limit from 100,000 to 200,000 in the year 2000 after the
DOT BOMB was recognized to have gone off
With friends like them, who needs enemies
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
Actually a long time ago, in a galaxy filled with old sk00l .
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geeks the laptops had micro-channel SCSI . It was not common,
but there were quite a few
15th divided category from top of page
http://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/users/olawlor/ref/mac_
How about germany starting 2 world wars Mr. Rammstein ???
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How about the Holocaust ????
Serve your self up a large loaf of that for breakfast
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
I agree with this Anonympus post ... The US is the largest provider .
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of foreign aid in the World, it has remained so since after World War 2
The US is the only nation I currently know of that helped the
country that suprise attacked them at pearl harbor build a
world class auto manufacturing apparatus that dwarfs the monolithic car makers of the US
We did all we could to help see the re-unification of germany,
and so it came to pass under a republican who out spent the
russians . Mr. Gorbachev tore down the wall
Alot of bad things have been done on both sides of the big pond,
but odds are u'd be speaking russian, german, or japanese without the US
It's true we are not the same country as we were in the 1940's, but it is not the same world either
Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex, and I FIRMLY agrre with him and expand its reach to all corporations anywhere that influence governments . Saddam was a piece of crap, and his sons were crazier than he was
We gave him over a decade to come clean and cooperate, but it was
just not his way of doing business . The UN wrote and signed the
over dozen resolutions against him
Saddam bribed French and UN officials with oil vouchers, and the rest is history . The French will OK genocide for the right price . ( Kurds ) I wonder if the oilfields in the Sudan are keeping ppl
from sending help there
The French sold saddam his 1st atempt at a nuclear reactor, the israeli's blew it up
The UN is the 2nd attempt at the League of Nations, the League of
Nations was dissolved because of petty bickering and the fact
that it did little real good beyond making lots of speeches
and printing lots of paper
The UN is the step child of the League of Nations, it can do
good in the world or it can let things like the Sudan go on
and on, Like Rwanda, etc etc etc . The UN is crap
It has great potential to be much much more, but human nature
and selfish self centered isolationism and apathy will win the day.
The US coporations have sent all their manufacturing overseas,
and alot of their IT work too, and more to follow
The US can expel every visa worker, and put sanctions on businesses
doing business on foreign soil, and it would bring it all back and
the US would boom again
As for the oil, it would hurt the US for a short while if the
oil was cut off . There would be mandantory rationing, and
we could save about 20% just by switching to a 4 day work week
Further more, we could mandate all fleet vehicles to be E-85/E-95
flex fuel, and restart our dying farming communities for making
corn oil for a hybrid fuel
Fracturing natural gas for hydrogen at local filling stations
is the main success point in the green parties plan to move the
US in the direction of hydrogen . Scientists have looked at the
plan and it is viable and workable
Hydrogen powered Hybrid-Eletrics could replace 20-50% of US cars
in 10 years if a tax break equal to the one for SUV's was given
Bush is one man, Congress and the House can bypass him by getting
enough votes to do so
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Some ppl were found to be alive and well in towns that were .
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completely wiped out by the black plague, they did some gene
research and linked it to the specific marker CCR5 Delta 32,
and those ppl that had the marker from both lines of their
parents were immune, and if just one were resisitant and had a
chance of living through the black plague but contracting it
The ppl that had both markers from both parents were immune
They found this same gene mutations has the same effect with
AIDs as it blocks the uptake process needed to do its terrible
process
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
We are not going to transistion to hydrogen overnight, not even close .
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Most ppl will want their gas powered cars for a few decades to come
if for any other reason than cost
In a decade or two, or three, more clean power will be developed
like Bubble Fusion(proven) or Cold Fusion(unproven)
Tidal Generators at the Bay of Fundy alone could make more power
than all the dams on earth combined . Just need to make them
underwater turbines so as not to destroy the sea floor like the large french one is doing in their country
Wind Farms and Solar farms sometimes have excess power, it could be
used to make hydrogen, and I still think the massive amounts of sewer gas world wide could be used for energy
There are PLENTY of alternative power sources
Just think if we developed a way to capture the majority of the
power from the majority of land based lightning in the world
I am not saying it would be easy, but then again the amount of
effort/money it took to make the manhattan project or the
apollo project could be applied to make us less oil dependant
Notice I did not say oil free, we will still use it for lubricant, plastic, and what not
The keyboard, mouse, and monitor in front of you is made of
plastic, as is your cell phone, cd's, dvd's, tires, etc etc etc
Oil is used to make most exterior paint too
We can move to alternative energy FULLY in the next 50 years, but
it is going to take a MAJOR commitment by the powers that be
I think it will be resisted due to the three most powerful emotions of human beings
1)Greed 2)Fear 3)Apathy ; Greed of the powers that be
Fear of the powers that be they will lose their power and wealth
for them and their children, etc etc, Drop in stock value, etc etc
Apathy of the common man who would rather watch (x)ball, as they
take a animal skin and bash it about on a grass field on the
ground or in the air . Total expediture for all the various
ball related sports being TRILLIONS of dollars world wide.
If we put in 10% the effort that went into sports from pee-wee
league to the pro leagues, we'd be off oil as a fuel in 20 years
or less . But it isn't gonna happen, no way, no how
Call me cynical, and sarcastic, I will wear
it like a badge of friggin courage
I know hypocrisy, the human race is it
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Coastal wind is not good in places like florida, and a few others .
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Check this wind study map
http://www.eere.energy.gov/state_energy/technol
The best places are where you can use the terrain to compress
the wind via hills and mountains, and then funnel it thru
passes in the mountains and setup a windfarm there
Going north from the Texas panhandle into colorado is the
Raton Pass, and for the man that builds a windfarm there
money is waiting
Some other mountains here in the US see horrendous wind speeds,
and would make great places for VERY sturdy wind turbine designs
Like some posters have said, use excess off peak power for
catalytic conversion of water to hydrogen and oxygen, and use
for fuel cells later, or as other posters put it simply pump
water to highly elevated storage tanks or resevoirs, and then
use the highly elevated water to run a water turbine when the
wind is down
Storing energy in batteries is not really practical til we
get super conductivity better in hand cost/use wise
As to the cost for wind, if it gets every last US soldier
out of the middle east, then I'd say we can afford it
Making oil worth very little is prolly our best defense against
being held hostage by it
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
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http://www.eere.energy.gov/state_energy/technol
Electricity is already sent over VERY long distances at
100's of thousands of volts over high power transmission
conductor
Utilities of different states even sell power to each other
from time to time, it was one of the scams Enron got in on
because so much money traded hands
California in the mean time got screwed on the deal because
they refused to build ANY kind of new generation plants in
their state and when demand was high, so was the price
Target ur high use markets and lay out the wind power
farms in those areas
In areas where there is a tremendous amount of water moving,
make more hydro electric dams
Most of the power in Las Vegas comes from the Dam at lake Mead
Cover Death Valley in Solar panels is another option
Install underwater water turbines at the mouth of the Bay of
Fundy could power the entire eastern seaboard, Canada's as well
Hydraulic tidal pumps would be less invasive for the ppl that
don't like the underwater turbine idea like they are using
in malaysia to generate power underwater
There are tons of ways to fix our energy needs that do not require
oil, but as long as there are ppl wanting to get rich of their
billions they already invested in oil, its not gonna go away
for a fairly long while
Maybe Bubble fusion in duerated accetone will free us from
the beast that is oil
Hopefully something will
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
http://www.eere.energy.gov/state_energy/technology _overview.cfm?techid=2
Wind energy is the kinetic energy of large masses of air moving over the earth. Because the sun heats the earth's surface and atmosphere unevenly, thermal differences develop, which drive air masses around the planet. The earth's rotation also contributes to powerful air currents.