No, one dam is not going to power a nation with 4 times the population of the US . It is ridiculous to even think so.
As for whether or not a resevoir as big as half the length of California is big or not I guess that is your opinion.
To me a 360 mile long resevoir hundreds of feet deep is ALOT of H2O.
China is a big country, just the line loses from impedance make sending power over long distances uneconomical.
Semi-local power generation is best.
From China I'd say look for Hydro, Solar, Wind, Fossil, Tidal, and Nuclear to make up their solution.
As many hydro electric dams as the US has it only makes up 6% of our electrical output.
Granted we use more electricity than any other 2 nations combined.
The best North American Hydro project would be to use the Tidal Bore in the Bay of Fundy near Nova Scotia.
That project is already under consideration for Canada.
It is HIGHLY protested though, so it may not happen.
It would dwarf the 3 gorges project, and it would be best if they did not use a dam type mechanism, but perhaps passive underwater bi-directional current turbines.
One like this is completed near Thailand or Malaysia I believe.
France has already encounted problems with a dam like apparatus for their tidal generators as they did not consider sediment issues.
Well...enough said, glad u know math and unit conversion, u will make a fine pencil pusher if you can see past your ego.
Why spend millions for a job that pays a few hundred thou a year ???
I suppose the Scientists that took us out of the dark ages are not as good at making choices.
By and large, politicains are nothing more than power hungry lawyers that are puppets for special interest pulling the strings of the marionettes to dance out the steps to make their special interest happy and keep the cash coming.
Only until a near miss happened did they decide to give more funding to project NEAR to track close orbit objects that could cause a impact worse than any nuclear weapon on earth.
The scientists brought you cures to diseases that have killed and would kill millions, maybe even your family.
China is almost 1.3B people and, in
order
to approach "developed" status, will need to increase its per-capita
energy consumption by 3x to 5x.
China is looking to other sources in addition to fossil fuels ,
recently they started generating power
form the LARGEST dam in the world . The Three Gorges Dam is
a new wonder of the modern world,
but the sheer weight of it and all the water it holds back may cause
an Earthquake causing it to destroy itself .
Some stats on it:
18.2 Million Kilowatts , ie. 18.2 Billion watts of power .
The cost of the damn was enormous, but the massive flood of 1998 killed many
and cost almost as much .
Evidence Bubbles Over
To Support Tabletop Nuclear Fusion Device
Researchers are reporting new evidence supporting their earlier
discovery of an inexpensive "tabletop" device that uses sound waves to
produce nuclear fusion reactions.
The researchers believe the new evidence shows that "sonofusion"
generates nuclear reactions by creating tiny bubbles that implode with
tremendous force. Nuclear fusion reactors have historically required
large, multibillion-dollar machines, but sonofusion devices might be
built for a fraction of that cost.
Evidence Bubbles Over
To Support Tabletop Nuclear Fusion Device
Researchers are reporting new evidence supporting their earlier
discovery of an inexpensive "tabletop" device that uses sound waves to
produce nuclear fusion reactions.
The researchers believe the new evidence shows that "sonofusion"
generates nuclear reactions by creating tiny bubbles that implode with
tremendous force. Nuclear fusion reactors have historically required
large, multibillion-dollar machines, but sonofusion devices might be
built for a fraction of that cost.
161,000 feet is a good starting point for a floatation based launch
platform
firing a rail gun canister of material into low orbit .
It can be picked up in Low orbit by a robotic type device , and fired
again
into high orbit if the initial shot cannot get it free of the gravity
well .
We can do inflight refueling , we can land a robot on an asteroid
during the
NEAR project , we can do this with the right grey matter at the helm .
At this time the forces are too great for a human to withstand it , but
the
equipment/supplies to support a human in space weigh far more than the
human .
Using a high altitude launch platform for materials, and supplies it
would bring
down costs a great deal .
Alot of ppl mention the reverse force when firing a railgun , this can
be eliminated
by firing equal weight of water in a cylinder towards the earth .
Thus a nullifying equal force , both rail guns back to back
simultaneous firing .
As for humans, perhaps something like one of the X-prize craft could
launch from this
altitude and reach high orbit .
Getting the first 49 kilometers with just simple lighter than air gas
lift would
be a good jump start .
Here let me help you do the math, It is called a trade deficit. That means that we are sending more of our money overseas than we are producing and shipping overseas receiving money.
The value of the US dollar is falling like a kite made with an anvil. This is considered a MAJOR issue by economists, This is a "All Time Record Trade Deficit".
Roughly half a trillion dollar trade deficit for FY 2003:
When all potentially high paid jobs are outsourced then the majority of the country will be making minimum wage. With the preposed increase in taxes, how will anyone be able to afford a home and a car , and insurance , and health care, etc etc.
Are you some kid that the parents are paying for your college eduction, or just the recepient of unearned wealth from ppl that came before you in some mannner ???
If they can import ppl to do tech work, they can import ppl to do ANY job.
Those countries have ever job we have here, they do the work there, they can be brought here and do it for less , and pay no US taxes.
The L1 visa, the H2 visa are all unlimited, and the corporate greed wants to flood the country with cheap scab labor , and lay off every single US worker.
Ppl in other countries post "yeah ! screw the americans ! "
Your hate is apprecaited, make sure and let us know you ya feel.
The next time the germans or whoever take over your country we will send you a get well card.
I say we need to recall all our government officials like they did the governor in california.
I am not saying elect Ahhh-nold, but we have a bunch of lawyers running our country who are more crooked than some of the ppl we have locked up in prison . We have a bunch of corporate crook sell outs in DC.
After the DOT BOMB bust they voted like 97 - 1 to double the H1-b visa worker cap to near 200,000 per year.
All due to a fraudulent document put out by the ITAA http://www.itaa.org/
Noman Mattloff of UC Davis , a professor , took them to task and laid it on the line and wrote an article calling them what they are, crooks.
http://www.vdare.com/pb/matloff_h1b.htm
I repeat, any and all jobs in the private sector can be outsourced.
If they outsource all the jobs they can, we will fold like a house of cards, and that is what they want.
As great as Rome was, its demise was rather quick, and like Rome fell, the US is now in decline.
I live in a back water state that is not very technically enabled after travelling the country during the DOT COM boom.
The state is oklahoma , even here in 1 of 77 counties in the state, they are foreclosing on almost 200 houses per month.
#1:This makes possible capacities of more than 1,000 GB on a CD disk format.
#2:Consequently, holography provides a substantially faster data transfer rate from a single head, surpassing 100 MB/sec. By comparison, DVD technology provides a data transfer rate of only 5 MB/sec.
I'd like to see a party take the platform of TOTAL reform.
Screw partial reform, fix it all, ppl know what is screwy.
A " VAST " and unending heap of crap needs to be fixed.
The bloated and corrupt and crooked IRS, once per capita largest percentage of tax evaders.
Corporate Welfare..... Dear God.... we got ppl dying under bridges and we give money to some crooked business when some guy is dying from exposure cause we won't let him sleep in an empty 1,000,000 sq ft church or sports stadium ????
If ya say he stinks, go smell those linebackers after 4 quarters.
Colleges have been turned into cash cows, and have required classes that do not meet the changing needs of the world.
The layers of taxation on items of necessity has become absurd.
A set of tires from raw material to the rim is like 80% tax.
Corporations bilking their employees and states out of billions like Enron did and MANY MANY others.
They go on a witch hunt after martha stewart over $48,000.
What about the billions the good ol boy network swindled.
How about Global Crossing selling the backbone of the military network to a chinese businessman in bed with the communists.... let's talk about that.
Let's talk clinton pardoning Mark Rich, multi-millionaire tax evader after his delivered party favors and green backs.
I am not saying it is one one party either, it is both.
States like oklahoma tax milk and bread for even the dirt poor.
Billionaire Eddie Gaylord jr. swindles 18 million USD of tax payer money to build the bass pro shops in downtown OKC.
former governor keatings wife invest in private prisons and we "mysteriously" approve the ones she invested in large numbers for oklahoma.
This is just my state, I am sure you all have your stories.
The point is that corruption is so rampant the system is broke beyond repair I fear.
Yeah, I don't blame ya for biting, it is a sore spot for "millions" of Americans, but the only ppl that really seem to care are the ppl losing their jobs.
The Dems and the Repubs are all planning on opening the border, and the L1 visa yearly cap still stands at
"* UNLIMITED *"
The american dream is for sale...if your a corporation.
With the Visa workers taking all the jobs that are deemed over paid, and the border jumpers taking all the jobs that are underpaid , that does not leave alot of jobs.
Things are gonna get interesting over the next 10 years.
Like here in the US we do not "have to" go work in those sweatshops, we can stay at home, start a garden, and live off the land or sell something we make at home.
We "chose" to go work in those factorys.
The ppl in India could start farms and have food, and live outside the huge cities, and subsist on what they grow , and sell their excess as they did for hundreds of years before foreign ppl came and setup factories in their countries.
In india some ppl are forced to work like slaves in factories because of the Caste system, here in the US we do not have slavery and most of the modern world has abolished it.
India has not.
So if you are seeking to look for equality of these two nations, India is more like the US before the Civil war was fought with a major portion of its population sold into indentured servitude.
With this slave class propping up the rest of the workers it is inordinately cheap for their country to operate.
This is unequal ground, here is the US we must abide by labor laws that do not apply in India, thus why I and many others call this the race to the bottom.
Before 9-11 it was not hard for Visa workers to get jobs in the US, in fact they were importing ppl under the loophole visa the L1 visa as it has NO LIMIT on the numbers of ppl that can be brought into the US.
If you experienced trouble getting over here perhaps it is because the ppl that did get over here offered higher bribes to corrupt officials.
So I say, you do not understand, and like myself and everyone else you are biased unto your position.
Slashdot Mirror
My points stand on their own as facts that I do not present, .
.
but merely reiterate
Invectives are flying worldwide for a million reasons,
grow a spine
Ex-MislTech
1969, Wow, I did not look that far back, lol .
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Amazing that they were working on it that long ago
I'd have to give credit to the Dutchman
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
No, one dam is not going to power a nation with 4 times the .
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population of the US . It is ridiculous to even think so
As for whether or not a resevoir as big as half the length of
California is big or not I guess that is your opinion
To me a 360 mile long resevoir hundreds of feet deep is ALOT of H2O.
China is a big country, just the line loses from impedance
make sending power over long distances uneconomical
Semi-local power generation is best
From China I'd say look for Hydro, Solar, Wind, Fossil, Tidal,
and Nuclear to make up their solution
As many hydro electric dams as the US has it only makes up
6% of our electrical output
Granted we use more electricity than any other 2 nations combined
The best North American Hydro project would be to use the
Tidal Bore in the Bay of Fundy near Nova Scotia
That project is already under consideration for Canada
It is HIGHLY protested though, so it may not happen
It would dwarf the 3 gorges project, and it would be best
if they did not use a dam type mechanism, but perhaps passive
underwater bi-directional current turbines
One like this is completed near Thailand or Malaysia I believe
France has already encounted problems with a dam like apparatus
for their tidal generators as they did not consider sediment issues
Well...enough said, glad u know math and unit conversion, u will
make a fine pencil pusher if you can see past your ego
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Around 1978 it appears both Sony and Philips invented the cd-rom, .
and there is not a clear distinction who did it first
http://www.oneoffcd.com/info/historycd.cfm
Thanks,
Ex-MislTech
Politicians are power hungry not brilliant .
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Why spend millions for a job that pays a few hundred thou a year ???
I suppose the Scientists that took us out of the dark ages
are not as good at making choices
By and large, politicains are nothing more than power hungry
lawyers that are puppets for special interest pulling the
strings of the marionettes to dance out the steps to make
their special interest happy and keep the cash coming
Only until a near miss happened did they decide to give more
funding to project NEAR to track close orbit objects that
could cause a impact worse than any nuclear weapon on earth
The scientists brought you cures to diseases that have killed
and would kill millions, maybe even your family
Ex-MislTech
China is almost 1.3B people and, in order to approach "developed" status, will need to increase its per-capita energy consumption by 3x to 5x.
:
China is looking to other sources in addition to fossil fuels , recently they started generating power
form the LARGEST dam in the world . The Three Gorges Dam is a new wonder of the modern world,
but the sheer weight of it and all the water it holds back may cause an Earthquake causing it to destroy itself .
Some stats on it
18.2 Million Kilowatts , ie. 18.2 Billion watts of power .
The cost of the damn was enormous, but the massive flood of 1998 killed many and cost almost as much .
www.pbs.org
Thanks,
Ex-MislTech
The vast majority of their power is Nuclear, I was suprised .
77% Nuclear
14% Hydro
8 % Fossil
1 % Other
Thanks,
Ex-MislTech
While 3 Mile Island was not as bad as Chernobyl, it was a major
incident and the US was lucky it was not worse . Very Lucky
Read the story
Wikipedia
www.sciencedaily.com
:
Excerpt
Evidence Bubbles Over To Support Tabletop Nuclear Fusion Device
Researchers are reporting new evidence supporting their earlier discovery of an inexpensive "tabletop" device that uses sound waves to produce nuclear fusion reactions.
The researchers believe the new evidence shows that "sonofusion" generates nuclear reactions by creating tiny bubbles that implode with tremendous force. Nuclear fusion reactors have historically required large, multibillion-dollar machines, but sonofusion devices might be built for a fraction of that cost.
www.sciencedaily.com
:
Excerpt
Evidence Bubbles Over To Support Tabletop Nuclear Fusion Device
Researchers are reporting new evidence supporting their earlier discovery of an inexpensive "tabletop" device that uses sound waves to produce nuclear fusion reactions.
The researchers believe the new evidence shows that "sonofusion" generates nuclear reactions by creating tiny bubbles that implode with tremendous force. Nuclear fusion reactors have historically required large, multibillion-dollar machines, but sonofusion devices might be built for a fraction of that cost.
The Altitude record set by NASA with a ballon lifting 3/4 of a ton :
0 2/h02-163.htm
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/news-release/releases/20
161,000 feet is a good starting point for a floatation based launch platform
firing a rail gun canister of material into low orbit .
It can be picked up in Low orbit by a robotic type device , and fired again
into high orbit if the initial shot cannot get it free of the gravity well .
We can do inflight refueling , we can land a robot on an asteroid during the
NEAR project , we can do this with the right grey matter at the helm .
At this time the forces are too great for a human to withstand it , but the
equipment/supplies to support a human in space weigh far more than the human .
Using a high altitude launch platform for materials, and supplies it would bring
down costs a great deal .
Alot of ppl mention the reverse force when firing a railgun , this can be eliminated
by firing equal weight of water in a cylinder towards the earth .
Thus a nullifying equal force , both rail guns back to back simultaneous firing .
As for humans, perhaps something like one of the X-prize craft could launch from this
altitude and reach high orbit .
Getting the first 49 kilometers with just simple lighter than air gas lift would
be a good jump start .
Ex-MislTech
http://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/22/1430225_F.sh tml
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
http://www.geocities.com/duanenavarre/PRISM-HDSS.h tm
http://www.aprilisinc.com/holographic_storage.htm
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
Here let me help you do the math, It is called a trade deficit . .
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That means that we are sending more of our money overseas
than we are producing and shipping overseas receiving money
The value of the US dollar is falling like a kite made with an anvil.
This is considered a MAJOR issue by economists, This is a "All Time Record Trade Deficit"
Roughly half a trillion dollar trade deficit for FY 2003
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/13/natio
When all potentially high paid jobs are outsourced then the majority
of the country will be making minimum wage
With the preposed increase in taxes, how will anyone be able to
afford a home and a car , and insurance , and health care, etc etc
Are you some kid that the parents are paying for your college
eduction, or just the recepient of unearned wealth from ppl
that came before you in some mannner ???
If they can import ppl to do tech work, they can import ppl to do ANY job
Those countries have ever job we have here, they do the work
there, they can be brought here and do it for less , and pay no US taxes
The L1 visa, the H2 visa are all unlimited, and the corporate
greed wants to flood the country with cheap scab labor , and lay off every single US worker
Ppl in other countries post "yeah ! screw the americans ! "
Your hate is apprecaited, make sure and let us know you ya feel
The next time the germans or whoever take over your country we will send you a get well card
I say we need to recall all our government officials like they did the governor in california
I am not saying elect Ahhh-nold, but we have a bunch of lawyers
running our country who are more crooked than some of the ppl we
have locked up in prison . We have a bunch of corporate crook sell outs in DC
After the DOT BOMB bust they voted like 97 - 1 to double the H1-b visa worker cap to near 200,000 per year
All due to a fraudulent document put out by the ITAA http://www.itaa.org/
Noman Mattloff of UC Davis , a professor , took them to task and
laid it on the line and wrote an article calling them what they are, crooks
http://www.vdare.com/pb/matloff_h1b.htm
I repeat, any and all jobs in the private sector can be outsourced.
If they outsource all the jobs they can, we will fold like a house
of cards, and that is what they want
As great as Rome was, its demise was rather quick, and like
Rome fell, the US is now in decline
I live in a back water state that is not very technically
enabled after travelling the country during the DOT COM boom
The state is oklahoma , even here in 1 of 77 counties in the
state, they are foreclosing on almost 200 houses per month
http://www.oklahomacounty.org/sheriff/SheriffSa
This is one of the byproducts of outsourcing, no job , no money,
no money , no house payment , no house . "Feel the Love"
Glad I saw this greed festival coming back in 1998, and ratholed every damn dime . Enjoy the ride !
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
Excerpt: http://www.aprilisinc.com/holographic_storage.htm
#1:This makes possible capacities of more than 1,000 GB
on a CD disk format.
#2:Consequently, holography provides a substantially faster
data transfer rate from a single head, surpassing 100 MB/sec.
By comparison, DVD technology provides a data transfer rate
of only 5 MB/sec.
Thanks,
Ex-MislTech
They need to redo the tax credit for solar, wind, and alternative .
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clean power solutions
The methane sewer gas of all the major california cities alone
would make for some major production
Tax credits for highly insulated, or energy efficient buildings
should come back as well
Ppl like guerilla solar started because of the run around they
get from power companies in california and other places
http://www.homepower.com/magazine/guerrilla.cfm
Truly...power to the ppl
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
It's done already , DC++ servers all over god's creation .
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are sharing more and more every day
I see servers with 100 gig share just to join
Thousands of public servers, unknown number of private ones
We just need encrypted file sharing with foreign network
master nodes , if we need master nodes at all
99% of the ppl on slashdot who holler how horrible it is
for the artists really work for the record companies
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
I'd like to see a party take the platform of TOTAL reform .
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..... Dear God .... we got ppl dying under
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.... let's talk about that .
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Screw partial reform, fix it all, ppl know what is screwy
A " VAST " and unending heap of crap needs to be fixed
The bloated and corrupt and crooked IRS, once per capita
largest percentage of tax evaders
Corporate Welfare
bridges and we give money to some crooked business when some
guy is dying from exposure cause we won't let him sleep in
an empty 1,000,000 sq ft church or sports stadium ????
If ya say he stinks, go smell those linebackers after 4 quarters
Colleges have been turned into cash cows, and have required
classes that do not meet the changing needs of the world
The layers of taxation on items of necessity has become absurd
A set of tires from raw material to the rim is like 80% tax
Corporations bilking their employees and states out of
billions like Enron did and MANY MANY others
They go on a witch hunt after martha stewart over $48,000
What about the billions the good ol boy network swindled
How about Global Crossing selling the backbone of the
military network to a chinese businessman in bed with the
communists
Let's talk clinton pardoning Mark Rich, multi-millionaire
tax evader after his delivered party favors and green backs
I am not saying it is one one party either, it is both
States like oklahoma tax milk and bread for even the dirt poor
Billionaire Eddie Gaylord jr. swindles 18 million USD of tax
payer money to build the bass pro shops in downtown OKC
former governor keatings wife invest in private prisons and
we "mysteriously" approve the ones she invested in large
numbers for oklahoma
This is just my state, I am sure you all have your stories
The point is that corruption is so rampant the system is broke
beyond repair I fear
Good Luck !!!
Ex-MislTech
Vote ...Hahaahhahaa .
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The 2 parties approve their marionette and then you get to
pick your favorite sock puppet
It's like nightmare on elm street meets sesame street
Bastards are owned lock, stock, and barrel
You can almost see the metaphorical strings tugging their
little corporate dances
Cest La Vie, Cest La Gare
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
MESH topology like they use at www.locustworld.com for WiFi .
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for rural townships would work fine
This could be used with not alot of difficulty
The new Intel Access points have it burned in as an option
in their firmware, not sure if others do as well
Peace !
Ex-MislTech
XP = Xtra Problems, LOL
Cato Institute is a Right wing Corpracracy pandering politique .
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If there is anything I have learned EVERYONE is being bought off,
and EVERYONE is biased
Just because Georgie boy has an opinion does not mean it is
going to be right , and immigrants can affect an economy
The US economy was built by immigrants
The original railroads were largely built by them
The majority of crops picked in the southern US are
done by migrant workers from mexico
Scab labor was used to bust strikes by workers, workers
wanting the labor laws that are now in place
Read your history, there are MANY other cases
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
When you are paid to print your opinion, your opinion .
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is often remarkably like those paying you
Some pretty obvious logic there
Peace,
Ex-MislTech
Yeah, I don't blame ya for biting, it is a sore spot .
...if your a corporation .
.
.
for "millions" of Americans, but the only ppl that
really seem to care are the ppl losing their jobs
The Dems and the Repubs are all planning on opening the
border, and the L1 visa yearly cap still stands at
"* UNLIMITED *"
The american dream is for sale
With the Visa workers taking all the jobs that are deemed
over paid, and the border jumpers taking all the jobs that
are underpaid , that does not leave alot of jobs
Things are gonna get interesting over the next 10 years
Ex-MislTech
Like here in the US we do not "have to" go work in those .
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
sweatshops, we can stay at home, start a garden, and live
off the land or sell something we make at home
We "chose" to go work in those factorys
The ppl in India could start farms and have food, and
live outside the huge cities, and subsist on what they
grow , and sell their excess as they did for hundreds
of years before foreign ppl came and setup factories in their
countries
In india some ppl are forced to work like slaves in factories
because of the Caste system, here in the US we do not have
slavery and most of the modern world has abolished it
India has not
So if you are seeking to look for equality of these two
nations, India is more like the US before the Civil war was
fought with a major portion of its population sold into
indentured servitude
With this slave class propping up the rest of the workers
it is inordinately cheap for their country to operate
This is unequal ground, here is the US we must abide by
labor laws that do not apply in India, thus why I and many
others call this the race to the bottom
Before 9-11 it was not hard for Visa workers to get jobs
in the US, in fact they were importing ppl under the loophole
visa the L1 visa as it has NO LIMIT on the numbers of ppl
that can be brought into the US
If you experienced trouble getting over here perhaps it is because
the ppl that did get over here offered higher bribes to corrupt
officials
So I say, you do not understand, and like myself and everyone
else you are biased unto your position
Peace,
Ex-MislTech