No more recession
No more WMD in Libya (without fireinga shot)
Lower taxes
Lower crime
Gay marriage being trounced in many states
Iraq people now free from Saddam (I know you liked him, but most Iraqi's suffered horribly)
Syria is being quiet
Yes, there is a democracy (oh, that's right, Israel is either illegitamite or not in the middle east in your little fantasy world)
Enjoy your special little place of liberal goodness, because it only exists in the minds of you and others like you, fortunately for the American people, you're in the minority in this country.
Oh, and if you don't like that little factoid, please move to France, where most ofthe people think like you and your liberal elitist.
Still, it seems like our sense of what is ordered (i.e. not random) might be different than that on another world. Perhaps where we see a pattern, the alien race might see randomness and vice versa. What if we are seeing a continual stream of intelligent broadcasts from a civilization that is trying to send a message, but that message appears to us as random noise. We would have even come up with scientific explanations about where it's coming from if it has been going on long enough. It seems like we are awfully close minded about how we are willing to believe other life might try to communicate with us.
I'm not trying to disparage your remarks, that's more of a general observation about mankind.
but you would know it was most likely an artificial transmission
I still don't understand how you could know this. If SETI has been searching with many computers for many years and hasn't found anything yet, if they do find something that looks artificial, how can they be certain it's not just random noise that happens to look artificial to the program (or the humans writing the program).
I'm beginning to suspect the whole SETI thing is bogus, just an excuse to conjure up grant money and donations for cool computers. Not that thats so bad, I'm just mad I didn't think of it first.
I won't comment much on your analogy, except to say that the shriek does carry content, in this case the message is "I'm human", that allows it to be filtered out of the background noise. If you started with the assumption that the subjects don't understand that the shrieks are human, then finding each other would be mostly just chance and the shrieking would become part of the background noise because the subjects couldn't read teh message, right?
Nice post. I thought of exactly the same episode when I read the/. article. I just didn't know there was a site that wrote up the plot. That must have been painful for the webmaster.
If it's content-free, how would you know it was a message? I know modern journalism is content-free also, and we assume there is some sort of message there, but I don't think we can make the next leap just with that.
I support you right to disagree with me, but I believe that President Bush is one of the best Presidents we've ever had. Right up there with Lincoln and Reagan, IMO.
And yes, I'm in favor of all those things you mentioned, as well as freeing the citizens of Iraq and Afganistan. I think we ought to free the citizens of Iran, Syria, and North Korea while we're at it.
I can't understand why anyone would even consider Kerry worth voting for as a Senator, but certainly not as a President. Ralph Nader would be far more capable as President than Kerry.
I guess you won't understand my position and I won't understand yours.
My initial thought was, "I hope the 3 dummies were Kerry, Edwards, and Daschel". We might be from different ends of the political spectrum, but I guess aren't all that different.
Your point #2 is the most valid and important of your list.
That said, you missed a number of advantages of SP's, most of which have been covered in other posts pretty thoroughly. Still, the "flip side" to vendor lockin is that it's possible to perform some significant, vendor-specific optimizations. A good Oracle DBA understands the data structures and the way they are accessed at a low level, giving him/her the opportunity to write code that does the right thing, all the time. This low level code that encapsulated basic logic can prevent a lot of silly mistakes or poorly written code.
One DBA can make the SP's for a whole lot of Java,PHP, or whatever coders and make their life much easier. Since the DBA is ultimately responsible for the DB performance, it's preferable to give them the visibility into the code they need to keep everything running well.
Does this create vendor lockin? Absolutely. If that's a big concern, you should probably not use them. If you need to squeeze the last bit of performance or reliability from your DB, then vendor lockin might not even be a consideration. Just buy the best and fastest DB (and DBA) out there and don't look back.
Who in their right mind would want to hack into the democratic convention? The only ones I can think of are Republicans, and we all know they never do anything illegal like that...
True enough, but what if some of them Liberals get the idea that they should crack their own net and blame it on the Republicans?
Did ya think of that?
Or what if some "rough" Republican crack the convention network and blames it on a Democrat, saying they are trying to discredit the Republicans?
Strangely, we don't see many people shouting "save the corn!".
That's because our group, PETC (People for the Ethical Treatment of Corn), is short on funding right now. But this is an election year, we can get our message out on/., if nowhere else!
I believe that switching from IE would indeed stop almost all the spyware on our company systems, that's why our desktop admin (a devoted microsoftie) is now using Firefox and planning how to move the rest of the users to it.
You can believe what you want, but I'll bet you money that if you put a typical user on the net with firefox they would get far less than half the amount of spyware installed on their system compared to the same user using IE. I'm using 50% to be completly safe, it's probably several orders of magnitude less.
Asking them to download and install software is beyond the capabilities of many of our users.
Yet they seem to have no trouble at all installing all that spyware. Someone needs to create a one click install via a popup for Firefox, then you just put that popup on your site and wait until they inadvertently fix themselves.
Extra credit for the hacker if can wipe the existing spyware (the competition) and put the firefox path into all the shortcuts and registry keys that currently point to IE.
Imagine a "spyware" program that make the computer run better and safer than it was before.
Umm, LostCluster, it seems like your tinfoil hat is a little loose, we're getting some wierd readings. Could you please use some duct tape and make it a little tighter.
Having parents set up their own filters instead of trusting an outside organization to do it for them almost GUARANTEES that the filters will not be effective. Who has time to be comprehensive on content, given the rate at which new sites are created?
Hmm. Are you suggesting that the at least one "concerned" parent needs to be performing research on a daily basis just to keep up with the onslaught of new porn sites?
I think that at least some parents would be willing to do that (for the good of the children, of course):)
There might be a requirement for some penetration testing also, the details of which are left as an exercise for the reader.
Your original post indicated that there were rbl's that reported that all of Verizon's IP space was being reported as being dynamic. Now you are saying that there are ERRORS in the dynamic rbl lists, this is a big difference.
I'm saying it is an ERROR to list all of Verizon's IP space as dynamic. Is that not clear enough? What do you see as the difference?
Perhaps we should just drop this. At least we agree that moving off stupid ISP's like Verizon is the only solution. Unfortunately, my company won't be able to use an RBL because we have people using Verizon that want to send us email. Until they *all* migrate to other ISP's, and RBL that lists all of the Verizon IP space as synamic is usless to us.
Fortunately, we use a better Spam filter (CanIt) that doesn't need an RBL to be effective.
They are blocking what they *believe* to be dynamic, not what they know. If they were 100% accurate they would not need to have a mechanisn to inform them of errors, right?
They are in fact blocking Verizon IP's that are not dynamic, I can prove that. The Verizon IP's they block are clearly wrong in some cases (checking the public WHOIS records would confirm that for them easily). Their correction mechanism is broken. They require the ISP to contct them to correct it, this works fine in most cases, but Verizon simply doesn't care, so the inaccuracies continue. This is a deficiancy on Verizon's part (see my rant in the previous post), but still it make for an inaccurate block list and no feasible way for the customer to correct it.
The stament about some rbl's listing all of Verizon's IP space has nothing at all to do with the blocking of mail from dynamic space.
Huh? It has everything to do with it. My point is that they are also blocking some static addresses. It's easy for you to say "well some collateral damage is acceptable", but if you can't receive some important email because the sender is a Verizon Business customer, then it does affect you. Of course, if your blocking that email, you won't know about any business you are missing, so I guess it's OK.
If mail servers would start blocking all mail coming from dynamic IPs, they would block the vast majority of spam and block almost no legitimate mail.
I'll grant that your premise is true, but how do you determine that an IP is actually dynamic. Several of the RBL's have blocked the entire Verizon netspace, including T1's that are definately not static. I know that from experience.
I hate Verizon, but until we can switch our internet access to another ISP, I'm stuck explaining to our employees why their emails are bouncing (and the conversation includes several references to the collective stupidity of the Verizon employees and the RBL maintainers). Yes, Verizon could get it fixed, but they have chosen to ignore our requests since their company motto seems to be "We don't care, We don't have to, We're the phone company".
Even if this post doesn't change anything, I suddenly feel better for having written it.
Slashdot Mirror
Unless the hashes have a lot on common, it seems like this would be a simple way to extend the useful life of both hashes.
No more recession
No more WMD in Libya (without fireinga shot)
Lower taxes
Lower crime
Gay marriage being trounced in many states
Iraq people now free from Saddam (I know you liked him, but most Iraqi's suffered horribly)
Syria is being quiet
Yes, there is a democracy (oh, that's right, Israel is either illegitamite or not in the middle east in your little fantasy world)
Enjoy your special little place of liberal goodness, because it only exists in the minds of you and others like you, fortunately for the American people, you're in the minority in this country.
Oh, and if you don't like that little factoid, please move to France, where most ofthe people think like you and your liberal elitist.
I'm not trying to disparage your remarks, that's more of a general observation about mankind.
I still don't understand how you could know this. If SETI has been searching with many computers for many years and hasn't found anything yet, if they do find something that looks artificial, how can they be certain it's not just random noise that happens to look artificial to the program (or the humans writing the program).
I'm beginning to suspect the whole SETI thing is bogus, just an excuse to conjure up grant money and donations for cool computers. Not that thats so bad, I'm just mad I didn't think of it first.
I won't comment much on your analogy, except to say that the shriek does carry content, in this case the message is "I'm human", that allows it to be filtered out of the background noise. If you started with the assumption that the subjects don't understand that the shrieks are human, then finding each other would be mostly just chance and the shrieking would become part of the background noise because the subjects couldn't read teh message, right?
Nice post. I thought of exactly the same episode when I read the /. article. I just didn't know there was a site that wrote up the plot. That must have been painful for the webmaster.
If it's content-free, how would you know it was a message?
I know modern journalism is content-free also, and we assume there is some sort of message there, but I don't think we can make the next leap just with that.
I support you right to disagree with me, but I believe that President Bush is one of the best Presidents we've ever had. Right up there with Lincoln and Reagan, IMO. And yes, I'm in favor of all those things you mentioned, as well as freeing the citizens of Iraq and Afganistan. I think we ought to free the citizens of Iran, Syria, and North Korea while we're at it. I can't understand why anyone would even consider Kerry worth voting for as a Senator, but certainly not as a President. Ralph Nader would be far more capable as President than Kerry. I guess you won't understand my position and I won't understand yours.
My initial thought was, "I hope the 3 dummies were Kerry, Edwards, and Daschel". We might be from different ends of the political spectrum, but I guess aren't all that different.
That said, you missed a number of advantages of SP's, most of which have been covered in other posts pretty thoroughly. Still, the "flip side" to vendor lockin is that it's possible to perform some significant, vendor-specific optimizations. A good Oracle DBA understands the data structures and the way they are accessed at a low level, giving him/her the opportunity to write code that does the right thing, all the time. This low level code that encapsulated basic logic can prevent a lot of silly mistakes or poorly written code.
One DBA can make the SP's for a whole lot of Java,PHP, or whatever coders and make their life much easier. Since the DBA is ultimately responsible for the DB performance, it's preferable to give them the visibility into the code they need to keep everything running well.
Does this create vendor lockin? Absolutely. If that's a big concern, you should probably not use them. If you need to squeeze the last bit of performance or reliability from your DB, then vendor lockin might not even be a consideration. Just buy the best and fastest DB (and DBA) out there and don't look back.
An introduction to viruses
True enough, but what if some of them Liberals get the idea that they should crack their own net and blame it on the Republicans?
Did ya think of that?
Or what if some "rough" Republican crack the convention network and blames it on a Democrat, saying they are trying to discredit the Republicans?
Or what if some . . .
umm, nevermind
That's because our group, PETC (People for the Ethical Treatment of Corn), is short on funding right now. But this is an election year, we can get our message out on /., if nowhere else!
Save the Corn!
Save the Corn!
Save the Corn!
Save the Corn!
I'll go quietly back to my coding now. . .
Lesson learned: he should have open sourced it so others could fix his bugs.
I believe that switching from IE would indeed stop almost all the spyware on our company systems, that's why our desktop admin (a devoted microsoftie) is now using Firefox and planning how to move the rest of the users to it.
You can believe what you want, but I'll bet you money that if you put a typical user on the net with firefox they would get far less than half the amount of spyware installed on their system compared to the same user using IE. I'm using 50% to be completly safe, it's probably several orders of magnitude less.
Yet they seem to have no trouble at all installing all that spyware. Someone needs to create a one click install via a popup for Firefox, then you just put that popup on your site and wait until they inadvertently fix themselves.
Extra credit for the hacker if can wipe the existing spyware (the competition) and put the firefox path into all the shortcuts and registry keys that currently point to IE.
Imagine a "spyware" program that make the computer run better and safer than it was before.
Thank you, your cooperation is appreciated.
Probably just unlucky in love.
How long can the madness continue ?
You're new here aren't you?
It's what we do for fun.
Sometimes it seems a little mean-spirited, but that doesn't mean it's not funny to lot of readers.
Hmm. Are you suggesting that the at least one "concerned" parent needs to be performing research on a daily basis just to keep up with the onslaught of new porn sites?
I think that at least some parents would be willing to do that (for the good of the children, of course) :)
There might be a requirement for some penetration testing also, the details of which are left as an exercise for the reader.
I thought that was normal behavior for Windows?
I think it's just your OS, man.
And:
C. How soon until I start getting Spam for "myostatin inhibiting pills".
I'm saying it is an ERROR to list all of Verizon's IP space as dynamic. Is that not clear enough? What do you see as the difference?
Perhaps we should just drop this. At least we agree that moving off stupid ISP's like Verizon is the only solution. Unfortunately, my company won't be able to use an RBL because we have people using Verizon that want to send us email. Until they *all* migrate to other ISP's, and RBL that lists all of the Verizon IP space as synamic is usless to us.
Fortunately, we use a better Spam filter (CanIt) that doesn't need an RBL to be effective.
They are in fact blocking Verizon IP's that are not dynamic, I can prove that. The Verizon IP's they block are clearly wrong in some cases (checking the public WHOIS records would confirm that for them easily). Their correction mechanism is broken. They require the ISP to contct them to correct it, this works fine in most cases, but Verizon simply doesn't care, so the inaccuracies continue. This is a deficiancy on Verizon's part (see my rant in the previous post), but still it make for an inaccurate block list and no feasible way for the customer to correct it.
The stament about some rbl's listing all of Verizon's IP space has nothing at all to do with the blocking of mail from dynamic space.
Huh? It has everything to do with it. My point is that they are also blocking some static addresses. It's easy for you to say "well some collateral damage is acceptable", but if you can't receive some important email because the sender is a Verizon Business customer, then it does affect you. Of course, if your blocking that email, you won't know about any business you are missing, so I guess it's OK.
I'll grant that your premise is true, but how do you determine that an IP is actually dynamic. Several of the RBL's have blocked the entire Verizon netspace, including T1's that are definately not static. I know that from experience.
I hate Verizon, but until we can switch our internet access to another ISP, I'm stuck explaining to our employees why their emails are bouncing (and the conversation includes several references to the collective stupidity of the Verizon employees and the RBL maintainers). Yes, Verizon could get it fixed, but they have chosen to ignore our requests since their company motto seems to be "We don't care, We don't have to, We're the phone company".
Even if this post doesn't change anything, I suddenly feel better for having written it.