I find it hard to believe you speak from experience. Did you write a program or did you just read some source code and figure some things out yourself? How long did you try at it? There's a lot to Objective-C, and being a superset of C is something I never saw as a detriment.
IMHO, it's far more elegant than C#, VB, or Java, used by millions (and loved by less). Certainly moreso than C or C++. It's not as elegant as Python, but few things are.
Most Objective-C programmers love the language a great deal and tend to be (at least on the Mac side) very vocal about it.
Great! So by 2050 a high-end "sub-notebook" will the size of a Asia. That's using your noodle!
Seriously, I'm aware the parent poster was probably kidding, but if we doubled chip size every 18 months, starting with a 2 inch square chip (yes, I know), in 9 years we would have a chip that is 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 inches square. That's 291,141,794,092,638 square miles!
So I was wrong, it'd be a tad bigger than Asia. But it is fun to think about infinite bigness/infinite smallness.
Is Be/ZetaOS a true multi-user system now? From what I understand, despite having a semi-compatible POSIX layer, there was no type of privilege system on BeOS, and no such thing as multiple logins, even at the command line level (being that the command line level has really always been above the GUI level in BeOS.)
I realize the OS is being targeted at people who don't think they care about such features, but without them, (and I don't care how cool your kernel and associated API is) it makes it extremely difficult to have a secure system.
Does anyone know the real deal on this, I'm forced to assume it isn't the case, since I don't see anyone talking about it.
I really don't see how they could have pushed OpenStep/Cocoa any harder. No one interested in creating cross-platform software can use it as an API, at least not directly. Cocoa is not available for any other actively maintained platform, unless you count GNUStep, but it is much easier to write for GNUStep and port to Cocoa than vice-versa, if only because much of Cocoa is simply a wrapper around some of the "150 new features" added in each version of OS X.
Yet virtually all quality OS X-only software is currently written in Cocoa, with the only exceptions being Mac OS-only software that survived the transition to OS X (eg BBEdit, GraphicConverter, DragThing.) Despite Apple's IDE sucking balls (come ON guys!) So I think the push worked.
NewEgg is great. I bought I copy of WinXP Pro OEM for $142 about a year ago, and to get around the "must be purchased with hardware" caveat, they included a free floppy cable!
Looks like I'll either have to buy another copy now (that copy wasn't for me) or switch back to Windows 2000.
I have to agree this is what we are looking at here. This is the story of two companies that hired a couple of contractors to write them software that runs under Linux, and they didn't want to pay a lot for it. The only database available for Linux is Oracle? A shopping cart that crashes the entire web store yet *still* charges the customer's credit card? ISP gave them two weeks notice? Come on people! Sounds like bad decision-making based on zero knowledge of the platform they were moving to, complete with a staff fully trained in using what they were switching *back* to. Gee, I wonder...
This truly appears to be a case of two small corporations trying to act like big guys, save every possible imaginable penny, and guess what they wound up with? A cheap piece of software that never should have been installed on a production web server. I'd whimper back to the only software my underpaid, under-trained employees can understand too!
I do remember that episode. That was the one where they found the machine that could transfer minds from one person to another but not in reverse between the same two people, right? So at the end Carter wound up playing a shell game with everyone's mind until they were all back where they should be, and the only person who couldn't get his mind back was the guy who tricked them into using it in the first place. I take it back. Chris Judge was fantastic in that episode, you're right. I love when he gets in an argument with Anderson about shaving his head.
I've only recently been turned on to SG-1 (well a year and a half ago). I used to talk smack about it all the time, but I'm now totally hooked. The quality and diversity of the writing sometimes borders on pure genius yet they always manage to keep the light-hearted feel to the show (possibily due to the fact that Chris Judge and Richard Dean Anderson can't act and they both know it!). I am actually upset that I missed Heroes Part 1 last week because Heroes Part 2 last night was quite possibly my favorite SG-1 episode to date. I truly hope Atlantis can continue to live up to the reputation SG-1 has established.
I swear/.'s collective IQ is decreasing by the day. I should stop reading before my own starts to fall.
Oops! Too late...
You said "This should not of been moded up"
1. This - I'll assume that instead of "this", you meant "the parent post", since your posted was not in fact "moded" in any way.
2. Of - This is a preposition. What you were looking for (I believe) was the word "have", which would have made the next word (if it were an actual word) a past participle verb tense.
3. Moded - You are using this word as if it were the past tense of a verb, however I cannot think of what it means "to mode". Perhaps you meant "modded"?
Thanks for trying to contribute something meaningful, though... asshole.
Just for the record, Carbon doesn't really support threads at *all*. You can use RTT or pthreads from within Carbon code, but you have to be extremely careful, since almost none of Carbon is re-entrant. You can also use the Carbon Thread Manager, which allows you to create "fake" threads which basically have to polled manually from the main event loop. Basically, porting an OS 9-specific application to OS X and making perfect use of "real" threads and real time scheduling is near impossible. You would be better off porting the Windows version or writing it from scratch.
As much of a Mac fan as I am, I can no longer see how anyone could stand programming using the Mac Toolobox. Hell, even Java threads have mapped straight to Mach threads since OS X 10.0. Carbon, on the other hand, seems to have "evolved" in the same sense as the WinXP GUI. Read: s/evolved/congealed/
Now the question I want answered is will Doom 3 scare me again?
If the leaked beta I saw at my friend's house is any indication, and the original doom honestly scared you at all (I'm not easily scared by movies or video games) the answer is almost certainly an emphatic "yes".
The very first scene in the beta was absolutely incredible. The boss of that first level is truly awesome, especially what he does if you get killed by him.
My friend has a habit of wandering around in game levels after he has already killed everything, so he runs into a dark corner and realizes he's stuck on something. The beta has codes that let you place lights at arbitrary locations, so he places one right where he was standing, and we both nearly jumped out of our socks! He was standing face-to-face with this giant, hideous creature that had obviously not yet been hooked up to an AI script yet, so it was just standing there in the corner, looking very angry and breathing slowly.
If the rest of the game lives up to that, I might just sit down with some popcorn, turn out the lights, and try really hard to be scared.
Well I would be hard-pressed to argue with you, as you make very strong points. For the most part, I totally agree. Bear in mind, though, that I was commenting on Konfabulator's usefulness and value to me personally, not to the world as a whole. I am probably not the target audience, and I do think it is great that anyone with basic HTML/JavaScript skills can make a mini-application.
Clearly I'm conflicted enough about point 2 that if I did develop my own Konfabulator-compatible clone, I would probably not release it to the public, but I would really dig a Konfabulator that is capable of putting widgets on the desktop layer (beneath icons, above desktop picture) and has pluggable scripting languages. I really hadn't thought about what you said re portability, but the file format is totally portable, and there is nothing obfuscated, so I guess I have to take 2 back...
Finally, I must mention that I sure wish I knew what kind of crack I was smoking (it was really good crack!) when I assumed that I couldn't simply move the shareware window off the side of the screen.
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One word: big-ass magnet.
Oh, wait...
I just glazed by iBook screen with a light coating of Heineken a la nostril due to this comment. Please mod funny! Ow... it hurts.
In the movie, Peter Gibbons was a programmers working on the Y2K bug, so Test Prodecure Specification is more likely to be correct.
Safari has a spell checker built in and one is available for Firefox as an extension, so "Don't be a jerk!"
Google Moon
The detail is amazing! If you zoom all the way in, you can actually see what the moon is made of!
What, specifically, are you using more than 4 GB of RAM for?
Also, Mac OS X is highly portable. Intel makes 64 bit x86 CPUs. Who is saying there won't be 64 bit Mactel machines?
God, if you're gonna be a nit-picking schmuck, do it right. It's the B that differs in capitalization. The K is always uppercase.
So you did... My apologies on me unpossibly non-well English comprehension!
I find it hard to believe you speak from experience. Did you write a program or did you just read some source code and figure some things out yourself? How long did you try at it? There's a lot to Objective-C, and being a superset of C is something I never saw as a detriment.
IMHO, it's far more elegant than C#, VB, or Java, used by millions (and loved by less). Certainly moreso than C or C++. It's not as elegant as Python, but few things are.
Most Objective-C programmers love the language a great deal and tend to be (at least on the Mac side) very vocal about it.
Can somebody with mod points please mod this up? The poster may be an AC, but they are right.
Being lazy and smart does not necessarily equate to being stupid.
Great! So by 2050 a high-end "sub-notebook" will the size of a Asia. That's using your noodle!
Seriously, I'm aware the parent poster was probably kidding, but if we doubled chip size every 18 months, starting with a 2 inch square chip (yes, I know), in 9 years we would have a chip that is 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 inches square. That's 291,141,794,092,638 square miles!
So I was wrong, it'd be a tad bigger than Asia. But it is fun to think about infinite bigness/infinite smallness.
Is Be/ZetaOS a true multi-user system now? From what I understand, despite having a semi-compatible POSIX layer, there was no type of privilege system on BeOS, and no such thing as multiple logins, even at the command line level (being that the command line level has really always been above the GUI level in BeOS.)
I realize the OS is being targeted at people who don't think they care about such features, but without them, (and I don't care how cool your kernel and associated API is) it makes it extremely difficult to have a secure system.
Does anyone know the real deal on this, I'm forced to assume it isn't the case, since I don't see anyone talking about it.
I really don't see how they could have pushed OpenStep/Cocoa any harder. No one interested in creating cross-platform software can use it as an API, at least not directly. Cocoa is not available for any other actively maintained platform, unless you count GNUStep, but it is much easier to write for GNUStep and port to Cocoa than vice-versa, if only because much of Cocoa is simply a wrapper around some of the "150 new features" added in each version of OS X.
Yet virtually all quality OS X-only software is currently written in Cocoa, with the only exceptions being Mac OS-only software that survived the transition to OS X (eg BBEdit, GraphicConverter, DragThing.) Despite Apple's IDE sucking balls (come ON guys!) So I think the push worked.
No, it's not. SCSI stands for Small Computer Systems Interface. Why would you want 50-80 wires for a serial interface?
NewEgg is great. I bought I copy of WinXP Pro OEM for $142 about a year ago, and to get around the "must be purchased with hardware" caveat, they included a free floppy cable!
Looks like I'll either have to buy another copy now (that copy wasn't for me) or switch back to Windows 2000.
I have to agree this is what we are looking at here. This is the story of two companies that hired a couple of contractors to write them software that runs under Linux, and they didn't want to pay a lot for it. The only database available for Linux is Oracle? A shopping cart that crashes the entire web store yet *still* charges the customer's credit card? ISP gave them two weeks notice? Come on people! Sounds like bad decision-making based on zero knowledge of the platform they were moving to, complete with a staff fully trained in using what they were switching *back* to. Gee, I wonder...
This truly appears to be a case of two small corporations trying to act like big guys, save every possible imaginable penny, and guess what they wound up with? A cheap piece of software that never should have been installed on a production web server. I'd whimper back to the only software my underpaid, under-trained employees can understand too!
I do remember that episode. That was the one where they found the machine that could transfer minds from one person to another but not in reverse between the same two people, right? So at the end Carter wound up playing a shell game with everyone's mind until they were all back where they should be, and the only person who couldn't get his mind back was the guy who tricked them into using it in the first place. I take it back. Chris Judge was fantastic in that episode, you're right. I love when he gets in an argument with Anderson about shaving his head.
I've only recently been turned on to SG-1 (well a year and a half ago). I used to talk smack about it all the time, but I'm now totally hooked. The quality and diversity of the writing sometimes borders on pure genius yet they always manage to keep the light-hearted feel to the show (possibily due to the fact that Chris Judge and Richard Dean Anderson can't act and they both know it!). I am actually upset that I missed Heroes Part 1 last week because Heroes Part 2 last night was quite possibly my favorite SG-1 episode to date. I truly hope Atlantis can continue to live up to the reputation SG-1 has established.
I swear /.'s collective IQ is decreasing by the day. I should stop reading before my own starts to fall.
Oops! Too late...
You said "This should not of been moded up"
1. This - I'll assume that instead of "this", you meant "the parent post", since your posted was not in fact "moded" in any way.
2. Of - This is a preposition. What you were looking for (I believe) was the word "have", which would have made the next word (if it were an actual word) a past participle verb tense.
3. Moded - You are using this word as if it were the past tense of a verb, however I cannot think of what it means "to mode". Perhaps you meant "modded"?
Thanks for trying to contribute something meaningful, though... asshole.
Just for the record, Carbon doesn't really support threads at *all*. You can use RTT or pthreads from within Carbon code, but you have to be extremely careful, since almost none of Carbon is re-entrant. You can also use the Carbon Thread Manager, which allows you to create "fake" threads which basically have to polled manually from the main event loop. Basically, porting an OS 9-specific application to OS X and making perfect use of "real" threads and real time scheduling is near impossible. You would be better off porting the Windows version or writing it from scratch.
As much of a Mac fan as I am, I can no longer see how anyone could stand programming using the Mac Toolobox. Hell, even Java threads have mapped straight to Mach threads since OS X 10.0. Carbon, on the other hand, seems to have "evolved" in the same sense as the WinXP GUI. Read: s/evolved/congealed/
Now the question I want answered is will Doom 3 scare me again?
If the leaked beta I saw at my friend's house is any indication, and the original doom honestly scared you at all (I'm not easily scared by movies or video games) the answer is almost certainly an emphatic "yes".
The very first scene in the beta was absolutely incredible. The boss of that first level is truly awesome, especially what he does if you get killed by him.
My friend has a habit of wandering around in game levels after he has already killed everything, so he runs into a dark corner and realizes he's stuck on something. The beta has codes that let you place lights at arbitrary locations, so he places one right where he was standing, and we both nearly jumped out of our socks! He was standing face-to-face with this giant, hideous creature that had obviously not yet been hooked up to an AI script yet, so it was just standing there in the corner, looking very angry and breathing slowly.
If the rest of the game lives up to that, I might just sit down with some popcorn, turn out the lights, and try really hard to be scared.
Yeah, the pocket references take up 0.5 slots. I haven't seen any that take up more than 1 (yet).
I mean, even my 1992 Toyota uses EFI . Way to keep up with the times, Intel!
Well I would be hard-pressed to argue with you, as you make very strong points. For the most part, I totally agree. Bear in mind, though, that I was commenting on Konfabulator's usefulness and value to me personally, not to the world as a whole. I am probably not the target audience, and I do think it is great that anyone with basic HTML/JavaScript skills can make a mini-application.
Clearly I'm conflicted enough about point 2 that if I did develop my own Konfabulator-compatible clone, I would probably not release it to the public, but I would really dig a Konfabulator that is capable of putting widgets on the desktop layer (beneath icons, above desktop picture) and has pluggable scripting languages. I really hadn't thought about what you said re portability, but the file format is totally portable, and there is nothing obfuscated, so I guess I have to take 2 back...
Finally, I must mention that I sure wish I knew what kind of crack I was smoking (it was really good crack!) when I assumed that I couldn't simply move the shareware window off the side of the screen.