Your name will show up as an Alias on their credit report and your address will show up as a former/current place of residence. Then, later, if your house is being foreclosed, it may affect their ability to get a loan or sell their house.
How is it my problem that the CRA keeps lousy records?
By saying 'everybody's covered', we extend coverage to anyone who shows up in the U.S. Do you intend for that coverage to include even non-citizens?
Yes, why don't you believe me?
And even then, for every hospital I know of, they get treated first, and then the paperwork gets done.
Only in emergencies. The ones I know about want a lot of paperwork before admitting you
The question is, can our nation in fact legally establish nationalized healthcare? Does the Constitution permit it?
That's a good question that noone has asked. Personally, I think it's shaky without an amendment, but I also think we haven't paid much heed to our constitution of late.
But the Department of Education is a possible example of an extra-Constitutional function.
It doesn't appear that way - education is mostly done at a state level, with ed.gov doing research, passing out information, and student grants/loans at the college level. If you want extra-legal mandates, look at NCLB instead.
it makes no sense for the US govt. to not only allow, but, in some cases expedite bringing foreigners in (or letting them in willy nilly across the border illegally) to fill jobs that our own citizens are in desperate need of...
Are people with real degrees having trouble getting jobs at the moment? I thought that engineering was one of the areas that still had fairly low unemployment.
I'll avoid the tossed salad jokes and say that some healthy food can't really hurt - that and a bit of education/counseling could keep some of them from coming back.
they can be slower for all I care, so long as I can turn them on and off quickly to match load - 1.8G parts that burn 20W and do everything I want suit me just fine.
Um, just pointing out some of the loopholes and decisions to be made. And the problems of a 'everyone's covered' mentality...
These aren't loopholes, they're conscious decisions. By saying that everyone's covered, you eliminate claims departments, for the most part, which brings us to...
. Not expensive to write the denial letters. Ask the current private insurance Cos. This is obvious. I am assuming they deny to the point of the patient's expiration.
Not so - quite a bit of healthcare is the claims processing, and reducing/eliminating that would reap a substantial cost savings. It's not obvious at all.
Many people see only Utopia - no worries. Not gonna happen.
I see a looming iceberg and a lot of people who refuse to turn the ship. Not saying you're one of them.
Should work out well for the illegal immigrants, what with not much tax exposure if they play their cards right, and free (to them) healthcare.
If we didn't want them, we'd fine those who employ them and they'd stop coming. It's still cheaper than what we have now. In case you missed it, they flood our emergency rooms and DON'T PAY.
A big savings for nations that send us diplomats. Hey, they would be covered too, right?
Planning to shape national policy on the needs of less than a thousand people? Smart.
ps - It isn't pleasant, but denying people is pretty much always cheaper than treating them.
No it isn't - we frequently spend more on denying care than the procedure would cost, and that's for people with insurance. Never mind refusing payment for prevention while happily paying 10x as much for treatment.
Everybody = everybody. If you're in prison, they can figure that out by the marshalls escorting you. They don't know if you're listed because they don't check, since you're covered anyway. The whole point of this is so you don't have to spend so much effort on denying people. This is how you save money.
law enforcement doesn't have the ability to identify someone to that level? Then screw 'em. You shouldn't cut people's benefits because they share a name with someone with a bench warrant - next they'll make up a scret list of names that keep people off planes.
What happens when a 18 year-old is convicted for statutory rape of his 17 year-old girlfriend when they have consensual sex? He's now most likely a registered sex offender. Is he banned from Facebook?
Yes. He's labeled a sex offender for life, can't get a job, can't find a place to live and is banned from social networks like facebook.
Gee, he's screwed - wonder what he'll do for money.
You could argue that the rearrest is as high as it is because we make it impossible to live outside, what with all the imposed restrictions. The recidivism rate is fairly low when looking at sex offenses - around 5%.
Not quite: you have the right to say what you like, but doing it with a bullhorn at 3am is disturbing the peace (not related to content), so the cops can come out and make you stop.
were it that simple. What happens with abusive bosses is that you negotiate based on 40 hours/week, and after they start, start adding work until you're working 50+ hours/week, while acting offended (or making subtle threats) if you ask about compensation.
I'll bet it's so they can make sure you're somewhat replaceable. I mostly hear about it at banks, except they tell you when to take it (not much notice either).
What about building something you can be proud of?
What about it. If I was in this guy's position, saving my boss a pile of cash and seeing a pissant raise as a result would burn far more than pride. If I make the company 1MM this year, give me an extra 10% of that. Otherwise, I can just make that money for a side project.
What about earning the respect of your peers? What about responsibility? Ever tried enjoying what you do and taking satisfaction from a job well done?
How does this comflict with piles of cash? If I'm worth $500k/year, why shouldn't I find a way to be the one with $2MM in the bank?
Go ahead, keep on never going the extra mile and doing only the bare minimum.
Yeah, he did go the extra mile, and look what he got for it. Sucker.
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Your name will show up as an Alias on their credit report and your address will show up as a former/current place of residence. Then, later, if your house is being foreclosed, it may affect their ability to get a loan or sell their house.
How is it my problem that the CRA keeps lousy records?
By saying 'everybody's covered', we extend coverage to anyone who shows up in the U.S. Do you intend for that coverage to include even non-citizens?
Yes, why don't you believe me?
And even then, for every hospital I know of, they get treated first, and then the paperwork gets done.
Only in emergencies. The ones I know about want a lot of paperwork before admitting you
The question is, can our nation in fact legally establish nationalized healthcare? Does the Constitution permit it?
That's a good question that noone has asked. Personally, I think it's shaky without an amendment, but I also think we haven't paid much heed to our constitution of late.
But the Department of Education is a possible example of an extra-Constitutional function.
It doesn't appear that way - education is mostly done at a state level, with ed.gov doing research, passing out information, and student grants/loans at the college level. If you want extra-legal mandates, look at NCLB instead.
it makes no sense for the US govt. to not only allow, but, in some cases expedite bringing foreigners in (or letting them in willy nilly across the border illegally) to fill jobs that our own citizens are in desperate need of...
Are people with real degrees having trouble getting jobs at the moment? I thought that engineering was one of the areas that still had fairly low unemployment.
I'll avoid the tossed salad jokes and say that some healthy food can't really hurt - that and a bit of education/counseling could keep some of them from coming back.
they can be slower for all I care, so long as I can turn them on and off quickly to match load - 1.8G parts that burn 20W and do everything I want suit me just fine.
well ok, but do you need to live there or just rent some rackspace?
Um, just pointing out some of the loopholes and decisions to be made. And the problems of a 'everyone's covered' mentality...
These aren't loopholes, they're conscious decisions. By saying that everyone's covered, you eliminate claims departments, for the most part, which brings us to...
. Not expensive to write the denial letters. Ask the current private insurance Cos. This is obvious. I am assuming they deny to the point of the patient's expiration.
Not so - quite a bit of healthcare is the claims processing, and reducing/eliminating that would reap a substantial cost savings. It's not obvious at all.
Many people see only Utopia - no worries. Not gonna happen.
I see a looming iceberg and a lot of people who refuse to turn the ship. Not saying you're one of them.
Wait, ashburn is pretty damn cheap - it's not like you need to set up shop in mclean.
Should work out well for the illegal immigrants, what with not much tax exposure if they play their cards right, and free (to them) healthcare.
If we didn't want them, we'd fine those who employ them and they'd stop coming. It's still cheaper than what we have now. In case you missed it, they flood our emergency rooms and DON'T PAY.
A big savings for nations that send us diplomats. Hey, they would be covered too, right?
Planning to shape national policy on the needs of less than a thousand people? Smart.
ps - It isn't pleasant, but denying people is pretty much always cheaper than treating them.
No it isn't - we frequently spend more on denying care than the procedure would cost, and that's for people with insurance. Never mind refusing payment for prevention while happily paying 10x as much for treatment.
Everybody = everybody. If you're in prison, they can figure that out by the marshalls escorting you. They don't know if you're listed because they don't check, since you're covered anyway. The whole point of this is so you don't have to spend so much effort on denying people. This is how you save money.
why would the government need to verify identity? Everybody's covered, so the only question is medical history.
law enforcement doesn't have the ability to identify someone to that level? Then screw 'em. You shouldn't cut people's benefits because they share a name with someone with a bench warrant - next they'll make up a scret list of names that keep people off planes.
Then you ask why aren't people using this unique number to avoid mistakes!!!
By people, you mean the SSA? Aren't they the ones who should be using the SSN/birthdate?
What happens when a 18 year-old is convicted for statutory rape of his 17 year-old girlfriend when they have consensual sex? He's now most likely a registered sex offender. Is he banned from Facebook?
Yes. He's labeled a sex offender for life, can't get a job, can't find a place to live and is banned from social networks like facebook.
Gee, he's screwed - wonder what he'll do for money.
You could argue that the rearrest is as high as it is because we make it impossible to live outside, what with all the imposed restrictions. The recidivism rate is fairly low when looking at sex offenses - around 5%.
Not quite: you have the right to say what you like, but doing it with a bullhorn at 3am is disturbing the peace (not related to content), so the cops can come out and make you stop.
It's rape if one of the partners doesn't consent to the activity.
We're talking about statutory rape here. Please try to keep up.
Now really think: did napster drive CD sales up or down?
Hey, I know: solar panels! They hit peak output when load is at peak anyway and you get zero line loss.
were it that simple. What happens with abusive bosses is that you negotiate based on 40 hours/week, and after they start, start adding work until you're working 50+ hours/week, while acting offended (or making subtle threats) if you ask about compensation.
Because that happens in the daytime all at once, while car charging can happen over a 12 hour period at night (off peak).
So automate complaint generation and gather a list of influential people. That or go city by city and get everybody.
I'll bet it's so they can make sure you're somewhat replaceable. I mostly hear about it at banks, except they tell you when to take it (not much notice either).
What about building something you can be proud of?
What about it. If I was in this guy's position, saving my boss a pile of cash and seeing a pissant raise as a result would burn far more than pride. If I make the company 1MM this year, give me an extra 10% of that. Otherwise, I can just make that money for a side project.
What about earning the respect of your peers? What about responsibility? Ever tried enjoying what you do and taking satisfaction from a job well done?
How does this comflict with piles of cash? If I'm worth $500k/year, why shouldn't I find a way to be the one with $2MM in the bank?
Go ahead, keep on never going the extra mile and doing only the bare minimum.
Yeah, he did go the extra mile, and look what he got for it. Sucker.
You sure about that? I'll side with the socialists, since I think they get more done and, if I'm wrong, I wouldn't see any benefit anyway.