This is ridiculous. Corel has done alot for linux-a heck alot more than alot of other people. they are porting their whole line to linux, improved Wine and of course came out with their new distro. I don't know of any major company that ported its whole entire line of products except for maybe Netscape (but some people still think they are evil for not using GPL). I was pondering whether to try corel linux but this made me finalize my decision. I'm going to download it and try it for myself to show my support for Corel.
But that's not new. We had that for a long time with BSD, GPL and MPL (ok that is more recent but it covers both bases pretty nicely). Do we really want to deal with 5 zillion licenses?
don't you get it? SGI is desperate. They went downhill when they decided to do NT and intel and that new logo and even that didn't work. If you want a server, go with Sun. SGI was never known for servers-it was always about hot graphics.
I always thought the difference between a geek and a nerd is that a nerd wants to port linux to a commodore 64 and a geek wants to get his hands on a SGI Reality center.:) Or to put in another way, geeks will want and understand all the hi-tech buzzwords but a nerd wants to know everything about a system- even though it's not so fancy, the nerd has almost total knowledge about how everything works.
First it's OS of the month (Win 2k, win98, win ce) then cpu of the day (PIII, Athlon, K6-3) and now gfx card of the week. It's all talk for a computer that may never be seen in stores. MS doesn't do computers-if they did, even gateway and Dell would go nuts at the idea that MS is competing with them.
I wanted to point out that Eugenia Loli is offering up to $260 for PHP 4 on BeOS ($120 for the Xitami and $140 for the RobinHood add-on). More details at http://www.ukbug.org/ Scot Hacker is also offering $140 for porting PHP 4 for Robin Hood.
That's why people should support mozilla even if they like Opera or mnemonic or whatever better. Because everyone will be screwed if you need IE to browse the web
if mozilla dies maybe there will be a GPL browser but so what? You'd need IE to browse the web except for tiny packets such as slashdot or redhat.com. It would make a good help file reader though...
They'll respond "hey you have a PC. Run IE on Windows" IE is on macos because you can't run Windows on a mac. But if they put IE on linux then there's less of a reason to use Windows on that PC
that's good-concentrate on linux' strength instead of being everything to everybody. Otherwise linux will be a mediocre server in its quest to be a mediocre desktop.
It's hard enough to support HTML 4, CSS 1 and 2, XML, DOM etc. But a real browser also has to emulate the bugs on IE and Netscape too. The only browser that comes close is Opera and it still chokes on many popular websites. Therefore I agree with the layout engine "gold standard" idea. The work should be getting CSS 2 and CSS 3, emulating IE/NS proprietary stuff -not doing the whole thing from scratch. Because unless you want a help file browser, you're not going to browse the real web.
and you're going to bring linux into the enterprise because it's fun? Because that's the whole point of the benchmarks-to see if linux is ready for the enterprise. It has nothing to do with your small business or web site. That means that Microsoft won't get many web sites and some small businesses may switch to linux but I don't think they are worrying about the bigger small businesses. Of course a big business would use Solaris...
I don't think there's a conspiracy to make things confusing on purpose but there are many usability problems with many programs already and I doubt people will invest the time to make them easier if they adopt this model.
if it means you have to pay just to get the program to $@%&!! work then that's the wrong way to go. But if support means "ok we'll work on this feature just for you" then that's a revolutionary idea.
"Microsoft claims that existing Linux GUIs are cumbersome and difficult to use. In fact, my/mother/ sat down and began using the KDE28 desktop with no training, no prior experience, and not one single problem. " Big deal. My mother uses VMS every day. But seriously, KDE is only one of several GUIs available for linux. Redhat is the most dominant linux distro and pushes GNOME. And most linux apps today are either command-line or designed for only x windows in mind. The only way linux is going to be "easy to use" is if everyone decides to stick with one desktop with UI guidelines so that you know when you press control-c you are copying. Or was that alt-c:) And that's never going to happen. It's not what linux is about.
you can't just throw alot of money and expect it to come out any faster. You can throw a million developers but it's not going to come out any faster. It's going to take time-that's the price for rewriting the code. More money means you get a better design. More developers means you fix bugs when it's beta (and it's not beta yet). But at this stage you just have to wait for beta
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This is ridiculous. Corel has done alot for linux-a heck alot more than alot of other people. they are porting their whole line to linux, improved Wine and of course came out with their new distro. I don't know of any major company that ported its whole entire line of products except for maybe Netscape (but some people still think they are evil for not using GPL). I was pondering whether to try corel linux but this made me finalize my decision. I'm going to download it and try it for myself to show my support for Corel.
But that's not new. We had that for a long time with BSD, GPL and MPL (ok that is more recent but it covers both bases pretty nicely). Do we really want to deal with 5 zillion licenses?
I'd rather see more technological innovation instead of more legal/licensing innovations. In the end, that's the only thing that matters
don't you get it? SGI is desperate. They went downhill when they decided to do NT and intel and that new logo and even that didn't work. If you want a server, go with Sun. SGI was never known for servers-it was always about hot graphics.
I always thought the difference between a geek and a nerd is that a nerd wants to port linux to a commodore 64 and a geek wants to get his hands on a SGI Reality center. :) Or to put in another way, geeks will want and understand all the hi-tech buzzwords but a nerd wants to know everything about a system- even though it's not so fancy, the nerd has almost total knowledge about how everything works.
First it's OS of the month (Win 2k, win98, win ce) then cpu of the day (PIII, Athlon, K6-3) and now gfx card of the week. It's all talk for a computer that may never be seen in stores. MS doesn't do computers-if they did, even gateway and Dell would go nuts at the idea that MS is competing with them.
...would be getting macos to run on a PC
I wanted to point out that Eugenia Loli is offering up to $260 for PHP 4 on BeOS ($120 for the Xitami and $140 for the RobinHood add-on). More details at http://www.ukbug.org/ Scot Hacker is also offering $140 for porting PHP 4 for Robin Hood.
That's why people should support mozilla even if they like Opera or mnemonic or whatever better. Because everyone will be screwed if you need IE to browse the web
if mozilla dies maybe there will be a GPL browser but so what? You'd need IE to browse the web except for tiny packets such as slashdot or redhat.com. It would make a good help file reader though...
They'll respond "hey you have a PC. Run IE on Windows" IE is on macos because you can't run Windows on a mac. But if they put IE on linux then there's less of a reason to use Windows on that PC
that's good-concentrate on linux' strength instead of being everything to everybody. Otherwise linux will be a mediocre server in its quest to be a mediocre desktop.
It's hard enough to support HTML 4, CSS 1 and 2, XML, DOM etc. But a real browser also has to emulate the bugs on IE and Netscape too. The only browser that comes close is Opera and it still chokes on many popular websites. Therefore I agree with the layout engine "gold standard" idea. The work should be getting CSS 2 and CSS 3, emulating IE/NS proprietary stuff -not doing the whole thing from scratch. Because unless you want a help file browser, you're not going to browse the real web.
darn it. My uncle is Juridish
everything will still be blocky but you have faster sharper blocks :)
and you're going to bring linux into the enterprise because it's fun? Because that's the whole point of the benchmarks-to see if linux is ready for the enterprise. It has nothing to do with your small business or web site. That means that Microsoft won't get many web sites and some small businesses may switch to linux but I don't think they are worrying about the bigger small businesses. Of course a big business would use Solaris...
I don't think there's a conspiracy to make things confusing on purpose but there are many usability problems with many programs already and I doubt people will invest the time to make them easier if they adopt this model.
if it means you have to pay just to get the program to $@%&!! work then that's the wrong way to go. But if support means "ok we'll work on this feature just for you" then that's a revolutionary idea.
Free Tibet! Free Taiwan! Free all of China.
What about their announcement to include Motif?
given the number of kiddie "first!" posts on slashdot
"Microsoft claims that existing Linux GUIs are cumbersome and difficult to use. In fact, my /mother/ sat down and began using the KDE28 desktop with no training, no prior experience, and not one single problem. " Big deal. My mother uses VMS every day. But seriously, KDE is only one of several GUIs available for linux. Redhat is the most dominant linux distro and pushes GNOME. And most linux apps today are either command-line or designed for only x windows in mind. The only way linux is going to be "easy to use" is if everyone decides to stick with one desktop with UI guidelines so that you know when you press control-c you are copying. Or was that alt-c :) And that's never going to happen. It's not what linux is about.
there I said it once and I won't repeat myself. Anyway, I'm going to do my part to help
you can't just throw alot of money and expect it to come out any faster. You can throw a million developers but it's not going to come out any faster. It's going to take time-that's the price for rewriting the code. More money means you get a better design. More developers means you fix bugs when it's beta (and it's not beta yet). But at this stage you just have to wait for beta
But if Oracle is based on Motif (and many people will want Oracle-you know that) people will have no choice but to use Redhat.