Others have already pointed out that criminal copyright infringement in the US is far older than Bill Clinton, but that does not excuse him for the 1997 NET Act. Before that act, imprisonment for sharing without profit motive was not an option. I'd say America has enough prisoners already. America claims 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the the world's imprisoned population.
Interesting... I assumed Macarena was another miscatorgized trojan or worm. Thanks for pointing it out.
Having now read about it though, it appears to be more of a cheap trick than a virus. Let's examine it shall we:
It's restricted to the current directory. You'd have to drop it in just the right spot... someapp.app/Contents/MacOS/ package directory or maybe in/usr/bin/
It won't work on Universal or PPC binaries, only Intel-only binaries are affected. That pretty much rules out anything system related, since Apple ships everything as a universal binary.
Most importantly, it is unable to carry a payload. It can't do anything but replicate.
So that is the only Mac OS X virus in existence? I'm terrified;-) According to the ZDNet article, even the author gave up in frustration. To the authors credit, it seems just getting it to replicate was ingenious. I'd love to see the source.
If it could carry a payload, it might pose a problem for people using pre-compiled intel binaries, but then you're still stuck in the current directory and only able to infect other intel-only binaries. You're never going to do much damage with that as long as Apple continues distributing universal binaries.
Simply put, it pales in comparison to the damage one borked anti-virus package can do. It even pales in comparison to the cost and inconvenience of a well designed anti-virus package. Frankly, you're better off infected with Macarena than Norton's;-)
I don't have to cite thousands of potential malware infections to prove the claim false--one will suffice.
AC didn't say malware. There has never been a Mac OS X virus. Ever. Period. And by your own admission, even worms and trojans are incredibly rare. Feel free to cite a virus if you can, I'd love to read about the thing if it were to exist.
"Mac users cannot keep thinking that they are invulnerable to these threats." -- Graham Cluley
Oh wow, one worm or trojan per year. And both require an extremely gullible user to help the infection process along. I think we can handle that over here in Mac land.
Gonna make any other jackass statements?
Wow, no need to get your panties in a twist about it. The only jackass statement I see is the one you quoted above. Anti-virus really just isn't that relevant on OS X. In fact, I'd go so far as to wager that anti-virus products have caused more problems on OS X than the malware they are designed to defend against. I've never heard of a virus wiping out your fink install like Virex 7.2 did. There hasn't been a single OS X virus in the wild that I'm aware of since OS X 10.0 debuted back in Sept. 2000. The number of worms and trojans is also absolutely miniscule.
Yes, in theory, you're vulnerable on OS X too. In practice however, you're almost invincible.
As a desktop Mac user, has anyone EVER even heard of a virus? I mean seriously, has there even been ONE virus on OS X since it was released nearly a decade ago? I can even count the number of worms and trojans on two hands and have fingers to spare. Better yet, have you ever even installed anti-virus software of any kind? I mean, who even uses that stuff?? I think those virus things are Windows only;-)
Using the proggies you linked to also tends to stick up like a sore thumb in any workstation app auditing.
Did you even read the links? You aren't loading an executable of any kind. Those are instructions for placing a S/Mime certificate in the correct place so the "proggies" you use already can find and use them. The same can be done with Lotus or any other decent email client produced in the last 5 years or so.
Frankly, if you're doing any sort of business at all, and you AREN'T using encryption... you're an fool. Economic espionage can wipe out your business.
I don't think you understand Ad hominem. Ad hominem is to justify my position by attacking the the opponent instead of his position. "They're wrong because they're stupid" is ad hominem. My statement is perfectly logical... "They are wrong because their scheme is producing predictable results that are opposite of their stated goals. Clearly they are stupid." Is a perfectly logical argument.
They claim biofuel will reduce/recycle CO2, therefore making the planet more habitable for us and improve the environment. Instead, they are making the life on Earth less habitable to man (starvation) destroying the environment (dead zone in the gulf of Mexico), and it is quite likely they are achieving the exact opposite of their stated goal (creating more CO2 than using fossil fuels exclusively)
I pointed this out a year ago. Their failure was easy to predict, and now they are blaming fat people?!? There's your logical fallacy....
Ethanol production have added, sure, but when it is reported in many places as the single cause, I can't help but wonder if some of that isn't part of some "quick, here is our chance, lets do a smear job against the environmentalists!" campaign.
Aside from burning food and assuring increased starvation throughout the world, they are also creating a widening dead zone in the gulf of Mexico thanks to the fertilizer run off. It gets better, it's quite likely their solution is actually accelerating CO2 production. It's time a few people admitted these "climate scientists" should consult real scientists before hatching their cult's crackpot schemes.
The immediate and most important result is that they're starving people to death via the destruction of a major part of our world's food supply... burning our grain and poisoning our fish. But perhaps that was the plan all along.
I was once severely criticized for describing human beings as being the "AIDS of the Earth." I make no apologies for that statement.
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We need to radically and intelligently reduce human populations to fewer than one billion.
Sure, they could decide to not do business in China at all, but how would that help anyone?
It would stop Google from burying information and propagating disinformation on behalf the Chinese government. The Chinese take your land, put a bullet in you head, and charge your child 50 yaun for the bullet. What do you think the official Google.cn story regarding that event looks like? Something is not always necessarily better than nothing. Google should leave China. Staying is most certainly "evil." Your argument is the same as saying that the Chinese people are better off with TVs even if every broadcast station is nothing but round the clock propaganda. Google is nothing but a tool for propaganda in the hands of a dictatorial government.
Besides, hiding evidence of a murder and lying about it is itself a very serious criminal offense in the US.
It is a tough call, but I would agree that giving some, is better than giving nothing at all.
Google propagates Chinese disinformation. Something isn't always better than nothing. There is no such thing as "uninformation." If my friend murdered someone and I hid the weapon and lied to police, I would go to jail for it.
Did Google vote in favor of genocide or stoning dissidents? No. What they did do was to make a nuanced calculation that I think most reasonable people would agree with.
I'm sorry, but that is an extremely weak argument. "Most reasonable people" accepted slavery when the United States was founded. That little compromise led to the bloodiest war the nation would ever experience.
Even if you did not commit any crime, agreeing to hide evidence of a crime in the US makes you an accomplice. That is exactly what Google is doing in China. China mutilated and massacred thousands of protestors less than 20 years ago. They continue to murder citizens who demand what we consider basic rights like fair compensation for seized property.
Saying that the people of China are better with some information rather than none is pure fantasy. There is no such thing as "uninformation." Google is a powerful tool in the Chinese disinformation arsenal.
As long as they are not facing serious consequences for filing lawsuits against dead people, the homeless, children, and people who don't own computers.... this will only get worse.
Do no evil? Yeah right. When I google for "hoover" I get ads for Oreck. When I google for "google" I only get ads for google.... [I turned off my ad filters long enough to check.]
Seriously, I stopped using other search engines because the first half of the results page were ads posing as results. It looks like Google will soon make the same mistake as all the others.
Really? They have a lower infant mortality rate than the United States. Fewer stillborns don't qualify as better? You have a strange definition of better.
the ones that pander to the American anti-American (and I say this as a British person). I mean the kind of tiresome American who thinks that the two solutions to the current bad president are revolution or magical panacea of the democratic party.
You're obviously British. Democrats don't believe in guns, ruling out revolution for them. They are so anti-firearm, no revolutionary could possibly support them. I dare say, you'd be three standard deviations out to hold both views simultaneously as a possible solution to America's problems.
They plainly stated, in writing, that they would not be open-minded, or even consider the possibility; In effect, removing themselves from the process.
You know, that sounds strangely like casting a vote... and then having it ignored.
I know, I know...we don't like facts here on/., but I juts can't help myself.
Whoopie... does Raytheon have awesome batteries too? No? Then they won't be getting very far in that Iron Man suit, will they? Slashvertisement indeed. The suit isn't news. The power source is the sci-fi part.
Holy fucking shit.. Are we going to get rehashes of every robotics story we've ever heard comparing it to how it somehow is kind of like Ironman's fictional gear?
Why not? Every time we have a Cat5 hurricane, we hear the self flagellating global warming cultists tell us we should repent for enjoying the benefits of a modern society.
I guess this has to happen over every geekpr0n movie.
Yep, you nailed it. Comic book movie ==/. gold. Who cares if it funds another MPAA lawsuit? I want my geekpr0n!
I have a picture for you. Look familiar? Killed in captivity. He entered that death camp alive and in good health. There's another death camp down in Cuba. We're lobbing missles at civilians with impunity in Somalia and carting off "terror suspects" to more death camps in Ethiopia. You have citizens disappearing off the street, being held in secret and tortured, with no trial or charges for years. Tell me, when does it get to be Nazi enough for you??
It isn't that hard to understand. The whole point of OOXML is the XML part... you know, the clean, readable, anyone with a text editor can read and understand it, format? Microsoft has included proprietary data formats inside of XML tags, defeating the whole point of having the format in XML in the first place. Wrapping Word.doc data in an XML tag doesn't suddenly make it readable.
what has Microsoft done wrong with this?
Bribed or attempted to bribe standards bodies in every major nation.
What has the ISO body done wrong?
That's an easy one. Imagine if 80% of the US voted for one presidential candidate only to have the opponent declared the winner. That's what happened here.
Well, I hope that helps you understand the issue a little better:-) It's anything but an anti-MS religion at work. It's about MS trying to block interoperability of competing products.
they still can't beat THIS, yet...
http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08040701.html
If you could understand what they say in Japanese, it would be more fun. Someone talks to the pushers, '"It must be hard to do this everyday". And the pushers say "OK now, puuuuussh!" "hey a leg is sticking out!"
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Jeffrey Gerard Levy was actually the first person convicted of felony copyright infringement without profit motive under the 1997 NET Act. The University of Oregon threw him to the wolves when he was 22 years old. He was given two years probation.
Others have already pointed out that criminal copyright infringement in the US is far older than Bill Clinton, but that does not excuse him for the 1997 NET Act. Before that act, imprisonment for sharing without profit motive was not an option. I'd say America has enough prisoners already. America claims 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the the world's imprisoned population.
Interesting... I assumed Macarena was another miscatorgized trojan or worm. Thanks for pointing it out.
Having now read about it though, it appears to be more of a cheap trick than a virus. Let's examine it shall we:
So that is the only Mac OS X virus in existence? I'm terrified ;-) According to the ZDNet article, even the author gave up in frustration. To the authors credit, it seems just getting it to replicate was ingenious. I'd love to see the source.
If it could carry a payload, it might pose a problem for people using pre-compiled intel binaries, but then you're still stuck in the current directory and only able to infect other intel-only binaries. You're never going to do much damage with that as long as Apple continues distributing universal binaries.
Simply put, it pales in comparison to the damage one borked anti-virus package can do. It even pales in comparison to the cost and inconvenience of a well designed anti-virus package. Frankly, you're better off infected with Macarena than Norton's ;-)
AC didn't say malware. There has never been a Mac OS X virus. Ever. Period. And by your own admission, even worms and trojans are incredibly rare. Feel free to cite a virus if you can, I'd love to read about the thing if it were to exist.
Oh wow, one worm or trojan per year. And both require an extremely gullible user to help the infection process along. I think we can handle that over here in Mac land.
Gonna make any other jackass statements?Wow, no need to get your panties in a twist about it. The only jackass statement I see is the one you quoted above. Anti-virus really just isn't that relevant on OS X. In fact, I'd go so far as to wager that anti-virus products have caused more problems on OS X than the malware they are designed to defend against. I've never heard of a virus wiping out your fink install like Virex 7.2 did. There hasn't been a single OS X virus in the wild that I'm aware of since OS X 10.0 debuted back in Sept. 2000. The number of worms and trojans is also absolutely miniscule.
Yes, in theory, you're vulnerable on OS X too. In practice however, you're almost invincible.
As a desktop Mac user, has anyone EVER even heard of a virus? I mean seriously, has there even been ONE virus on OS X since it was released nearly a decade ago? I can even count the number of worms and trojans on two hands and have fingers to spare. Better yet, have you ever even installed anti-virus software of any kind? I mean, who even uses that stuff?? I think those virus things are Windows only ;-)
Did you even read the links? You aren't loading an executable of any kind. Those are instructions for placing a S/Mime certificate in the correct place so the "proggies" you use already can find and use them. The same can be done with Lotus or any other decent email client produced in the last 5 years or so.
Frankly, if you're doing any sort of business at all, and you AREN'T using encryption... you're an fool. Economic espionage can wipe out your business.
The following has been my email sig for years. Did you know that, to date, only one person I know has made use of it?
Learn how to secure your email
(Mac OS X 10.3+) http://www.joar.com/certificates/
(Windows) http://www.marknoble.com/tutorial/smime/smime.aspx
I don't think you understand Ad hominem. Ad hominem is to justify my position by attacking the the opponent instead of his position. "They're wrong because they're stupid" is ad hominem. My statement is perfectly logical... "They are wrong because their scheme is producing predictable results that are opposite of their stated goals. Clearly they are stupid." Is a perfectly logical argument.
They claim biofuel will reduce/recycle CO2, therefore making the planet more habitable for us and improve the environment. Instead, they are making the life on Earth less habitable to man (starvation) destroying the environment (dead zone in the gulf of Mexico), and it is quite likely they are achieving the exact opposite of their stated goal (creating more CO2 than using fossil fuels exclusively)
I pointed this out a year ago. Their failure was easy to predict, and now they are blaming fat people?!? There's your logical fallacy....
Aside from burning food and assuring increased starvation throughout the world, they are also creating a widening dead zone in the gulf of Mexico thanks to the fertilizer run off. It gets better, it's quite likely their solution is actually accelerating CO2 production. It's time a few people admitted these "climate scientists" should consult real scientists before hatching their cult's crackpot schemes.
The immediate and most important result is that they're starving people to death via the destruction of a major part of our world's food supply... burning our grain and poisoning our fish. But perhaps that was the plan all along.
It's truly frightening that you could write five paragraphs and still overlook the reason for the recent food shortages.
It would stop Google from burying information and propagating disinformation on behalf the Chinese government. The Chinese take your land, put a bullet in you head, and charge your child 50 yaun for the bullet. What do you think the official Google.cn story regarding that event looks like? Something is not always necessarily better than nothing. Google should leave China. Staying is most certainly "evil." Your argument is the same as saying that the Chinese people are better off with TVs even if every broadcast station is nothing but round the clock propaganda. Google is nothing but a tool for propaganda in the hands of a dictatorial government.
Besides, hiding evidence of a murder and lying about it is itself a very serious criminal offense in the US.
Have you created secure DRM?
Google propagates Chinese disinformation. Something isn't always better than nothing. There is no such thing as "uninformation." If my friend murdered someone and I hid the weapon and lied to police, I would go to jail for it.
I'm sorry, but that is an extremely weak argument. "Most reasonable people" accepted slavery when the United States was founded. That little compromise led to the bloodiest war the nation would ever experience.
Even if you did not commit any crime, agreeing to hide evidence of a crime in the US makes you an accomplice. That is exactly what Google is doing in China. China mutilated and massacred thousands of protestors less than 20 years ago. They continue to murder citizens who demand what we consider basic rights like fair compensation for seized property.
Saying that the people of China are better with some information rather than none is pure fantasy. There is no such thing as "uninformation." Google is a powerful tool in the Chinese disinformation arsenal.
As long as they are not facing serious consequences for filing lawsuits against dead people, the homeless, children, and people who don't own computers.... this will only get worse.
New Google slogan: Relevance is irrelevant!
Do no evil? Yeah right. When I google for "hoover" I get ads for Oreck. When I google for "google" I only get ads for google.... [I turned off my ad filters long enough to check.]
Seriously, I stopped using other search engines because the first half of the results page were ads posing as results. It looks like Google will soon make the same mistake as all the others.
$23?! That's like three or four Euros!
Really? They have a lower infant mortality rate than the United States. Fewer stillborns don't qualify as better? You have a strange definition of better.
Well then, carry on ol' chap! Although I'm not sure how pandering to a miniscule portion of the population would make a film "really sinister".
You're obviously British. Democrats don't believe in guns, ruling out revolution for them. They are so anti-firearm, no revolutionary could possibly support them. I dare say, you'd be three standard deviations out to hold both views simultaneously as a possible solution to America's problems.
You know, that sounds strangely like casting a vote... and then having it ignored.
I know, I know...we don't like facts here onSpeaking for yourself, I see.
Whoopie... does Raytheon have awesome batteries too? No? Then they won't be getting very far in that Iron Man suit, will they? Slashvertisement indeed. The suit isn't news. The power source is the sci-fi part.
Holy fucking shit.. Are we going to get rehashes of every robotics story we've ever heard comparing it to how it somehow is kind of like Ironman's fictional gear?Why not? Every time we have a Cat5 hurricane, we hear the self flagellating global warming cultists tell us we should repent for enjoying the benefits of a modern society.
I guess this has to happen over every geekpr0n movie.Yep, you nailed it. Comic book movie == /. gold. Who cares if it funds another MPAA lawsuit? I want my geekpr0n!
I have a picture for you. Look familiar? Killed in captivity. He entered that death camp alive and in good health. There's another death camp down in Cuba. We're lobbing missles at civilians with impunity in Somalia and carting off "terror suspects" to more death camps in Ethiopia. You have citizens disappearing off the street, being held in secret and tortured, with no trial or charges for years. Tell me, when does it get to be Nazi enough for you??
It isn't that hard to understand. The whole point of OOXML is the XML part... you know, the clean, readable, anyone with a text editor can read and understand it, format? Microsoft has included proprietary data formats inside of XML tags, defeating the whole point of having the format in XML in the first place. Wrapping Word .doc data in an XML tag doesn't suddenly make it readable.
what has Microsoft done wrong with this?Bribed or attempted to bribe standards bodies in every major nation.
What has the ISO body done wrong?That's an easy one. Imagine if 80% of the US voted for one presidential candidate only to have the opponent declared the winner. That's what happened here.
Well, I hope that helps you understand the issue a little better :-) It's anything but an anti-MS religion at work. It's about MS trying to block interoperability of competing products.
http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08040701.html
If you could understand what they say in Japanese, it would be more fun. Someone talks to the pushers, '"It must be hard to do this everyday". And the pushers say "OK now, puuuuussh!" "hey a leg is sticking out!"