That's why the CIA/DOJ has been going after the Swiss bankers lately. It look like this "terrorist" was on the list of people's accounts recently demanded by the US Government in violation of Swiss banking laws or they wouldn't have settled.
On one hand I think it's a sovereign state, and the US has no business there. On the other, the banking lobby is so powerful they REFUSE to be bound by the law not to transfer to banks that the Feds can't monitor and refuse to play along to help catch terrorists. It's not tricky at all to stop money from going to Swiss accounts, make it illegal, just like it's illegal for US banks to transfer to these gambling sites, or to Iran. If the reporting bank won't answer legal summons about the owner of the account then make the transfer illegal, it's just as easy as hauling in guys for illegal gambling... and it could be quite lucrative to get some of the money US bankers have been managing after the bailouts back seizing lots of this money to balance the federal budget!
On another hand, the Swiss bankers are bastards profiting off arms dealers, terrorists, drug dealers, mass murderers, war criminals, etc. When these people are caught or killed by governments, the Swiss are the ones laughing while illegally gained money nobody knows about pumps up their coffers.... and because the person doesn't live in Switzerland the basics of next-of-kin or reporting money to governments doesn't have to be followed when death notices are issued. Switzerland should have been the First target after 9/11 because THEY are how the various black ops and terrorists move their money around illegally causing suffering in the third world, creating and arming terrorists, when they won't return money dictators and criminals steal from struggling dirt farmers. Never forget 9/11 was an attack on a BANK not a military post, not some random landmark.
He did leave the US shortly after the law was passed changing the legal status of his business. He's one of the guys where his flight between non-US destinations had an "emergency" and the DOJ "arrested" him at an "international" location outside the gates of US Customs.
I always find it funny that it's OK for US corporations to leave when they don't like Taxes, Environmental laws, Labor laws, Executive responsibility laws, to places like Bermuda, China, Taiwan, Honduras, running their US business into the ground and wrecking jobs for tens of thousands, but his little "gambling" site involved the need to conduct international sting operations and illegally divert aircraft.
that's why the 3 month requirement. The problem now is that 75%+ of trades are "subsecond" trades made between when Somebody clicks "Sell" and YOU click "Buy" using automated systems. The same is true with Day Traders that try to do the process manually. While it does provide liquidity in that somebody is always willing to buy or sell, the majority of it is high speed betting, Day Traders lose their money just like gamblers, not calculated investments. The only thing that matters in business is the quarterly report... it's the only LEGALLY PUBLISHED document about company health, the rest of the stuff people use is hearsay, astrology, etc.
but it's not really that illegal. For years my local horse track had remote betting for other tracks... i.e. across telephone lines. The State lottery runs multi-state games that are real-time across multiple states.. again using telephone lines... The only people "online betting" is illegal for are the guys that founded it.
They should have gotten a business method patent!!!
You mean like when Kentucky was trying to seize internet "gambling" domains... while at the same time trying to allow online betting for THEIR horse tracks that also goes across federal telecommunications lines... breaking the same federal laws. "Internet Gambling" wasn't even illegal when these guys started out.
The real reason this is on slashdot is that these IT people were put in a Terry Childs like position by these goons. And more situations like this will be coming.
The county consolidated systems to build a big, safe data center, but has lots of infighting. They put IT under control of a separate IT department and made sure everybody was cleared for everything needed to be admins. Now the police come in at gun point because a) they claim to want their computer "back". and b) they're investigating another department and the IT staff is following the law waiting for proper court judgments. So the police go, put a gun to the IT staff's heads to get what they want, it was even said the sheriff knows of no improper use of the police data by IT and that IT was properly authorized...
As county IT departments are more strapped for cash, nice big racks of Sans and blades are the rage for maximum IT staff utilization... we'll see lots more consolidation... and these police just declared war on the "keepers" of those systems... i.e. on other people who do our jobs too!
The sheriff is mixing is cases. The criminal database is one server in a 5 department shared data center. They used police jurisdiction of that ONE computer (that the sheriff agreed to co-locate by the way) to justify throwing the IT staff for ALL the computers out and demanded passwords be turned over. The sheriff is investigating people in the other departments, has sued for access to emails and such, but was denied by court pending judgment. They now have the the whole county IT data center with no witnesses... get it!
the sheriff's office obviously PUT the computers into the county IT department without force several years ago... correct? The Board or the IT people did not TAKE his computer, it was put under their control, which other posters have said can be legal with the proper government clearances. Obviously the IT department had those when this SAME sheriff gave these computers to them!! He's using a budget crisis and laid off IT staff to make a grab at the server room.
This is about a co-located system that sits in a room with several other departments the sheriff would like to investigate and has suits in process explicitly not to get emails and such from the County until the court rules. They forced all of the IT people out, under threat of arrest, and demanded passwords to what systems exactly? With all the admin passwords what data in other departments are they accessing? If it was a Federal problem with the criminal database the Feds themselves would have sent the county a strongly worded letter and made things happen... i.e. a new locked server room for that computer... but that's not what's going on.
like somebody on the newspaper site pointed out, another court was still in process about the contents of the computers seized and these police just went and took them. This computer room also hosts several other systems intermixed, that the police don't have jurisdiction, nor the county's authority, to access. The agreement was reached only 3 years ago, so the specific head of the police department agreed to those terms.. not somebody else.
Best of all though he was seeking emails of other county officials in other departments as evidence.... and he just walked in and took it, from a third party, without warrant.... whatever evidence is in those emails is now strictly off limits for his investigations as he committed contempt of court by violating an ongoing court case and by hijacking the admins by force. Whoever had any incriminations will get to walk from here on!!!! Man needs impeached for sheer legal incompetence.
so the IT people have bosses, and the police department should have LAWYERS working for them to get this stuff legally. There's plenty of legal means to get access and filing the right papers will get the IT staff to "step away from the keyboard" in a hot minute.
What this guy did to the IT staff was WRONG, wrong as a citizen, wrong as a city employee, and wrong as a Law Enforcement official. Obviously, he signed away his responsibilities over the system and just like in the Childs case wanted to make the problem the "IT guy's" fault, not the managers that told them how to run the shop.
what ever he did or didn't do hopefully the IT people in charge will just walk away from it, especially if they ran an honest system before this guy showed up. There are plenty of ways to see exactly what changed, but for their sakes it's better if they don't ever set foot in the server room again even if the Feds step in and clear the IT staff of any wrong doing. Basically they all got put in another Terry Childs position and did the "right" thing with a gun to their heads.
because the IT guy knows Federal law for tampering with computers and knows not to break it! Somebody is using the Law properly and knows they didn't do anything wrong. The point is exactly, that the sherriff probably asked for the admin password and the IT staff, at gun point gave it too him. That usually doesn't cover all the IT employee accounts and the "secret" admin account we all keep when we forget our admin AND our personal passwords.
IT guys have enough to throw these guys in jail, they don't need to screw it up!
Whoa there, your saying we should treat people like we expect them to act on the outside?
That's the one thing about recent Marines training, that they've been working on not actually breaking the troops like they used too because they realized they were being to harsh and simply creating "thugs" not independent, responsible warriors. Jails should be like Boot Camp preparing you to leave, not demeaning you so you don't know how to live without being "broken" daily.
We used to run jails like that... and it didn't actually work either, with critical, scientific studies proved it was full of sadistic pricks without checks they became just as cruel as the people they were supposed to be "punishing".
And they used "guns" to do threaten public employees. That they ARE public employees makes no difference. They obviously didn't have a warrant from a judge and they threatened law abiding employees in a different department.
Like it or not "law enforcement" is JUST A JOB!!!!! They are no different than any other public employee when dealing with matters like this... BOFH is going to have fun with them.... but if they were smart they'd walk away from their jobs Monday and file civil rights and workplace violence suits against their employers. Not to mention criminal charges with the state police/FBI for hijacking a computer system. Tampering with a public computer system alone ought to get the police 10-20 years!!!
they're not trumping any law. inside the space they rent they ask for people to follow a contract about taking the media outside. Just like your employer asks you to sign an NDA for emails that go to the "public" internet. The space for the week is rented, so it has all the same rights as any other rented venue... how many rock concerts are at publicly funded arenas yet clearly forbid recording?
What good is a software house that can't manage it's own PCs running software?
Seriously, if you have that much IP, and Software is your specialty, then you have need of dedicated services as a risk factor to your investors and it's a business risk to outsource and cut corners.
On the other hand, your best bet is to designate an internal support contact that hold the "keys to the kingdom" and partner with a good firm with expertise you need to get the job done. Then your company man has the backing he needs and can control costs, but you're not letting the horses out of the barn. If you want on site service they'll give you that... for a fee.
One thing to realize is that many true management firms run their customers just like bigger enterprise IT departments do. They use the SMS and other tools to manage on you off-hours to save you money and provide security with planned roll outs and regular updates. They have several customers so they can pay one guy to be expert and test stuff.. Also, if you expect 1 hour service or nite call-outs then they're going to want to give their people remote access to save their employees time as well.
I would suppose that's why companies have you pay, then you try to get the best deal possible with your money, and executives like it because they paid up front they get to keep the perks for vacation.
Core Duo (vanilla) doesn't have VT at all.. it's not a fully 64-bit chip like Core 2 Duo is.
Common misconception because intel pre-marketed Core 2 Duo all over the place and quietly sold OEMS Core Duo for cheap.
Macs were the first to get Core 2 Duos and the issue has already come up because certain SL features require VT and 64 bit which the first round of Macbooks/pros didn't have because Core 2 Duo wasn't released yet.
I don't see setting a number as that bad up front. If you have a job making $X and there's no way they can match it (or offer other benefits/compensation) then you've saved them time wasted because they can't afford you.
The bigger problem people are having now is that they DON'T have $X right now because they go laid off.... it's a bit more touchy as I used to make $X and live comfortably but it depends on what the employer will do with it. On one hand you may need to find another job close to $X in order to make ends meet and for your skill set... you'll still get bastards out there thinking it's like car haggling where they can offer 25% less because you don't have a job now and you "have to" take a job.
On the other hand if they're offer is way MORE than what you are making is there some reason for it? Is it a true promotion after 10 years experience, or are have you jumped into a bigger company with a bigger pay scale and bigger expectations of you? Not making "enough" for the interviewer's number may also have some issues.
I wouldn't worry much about it because any company dealing in "IP" work should be providing me with the tools I need, laptop, office software, development environment to meet their standards anyway. I come from the other side that uniformity removes many problems and allows for easier disaster recovery and backup of critical information... if they were expecting me to work from home or something on my OWN machines I'd have a problem with that.
good point... this is where the interviewer giveth and the HR department taketh away.
But it's "standard" paperwork, and "company rules" so the HR person HAS TO make you follow them even if it's not what you were told. Classic bait and switch.
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That's why the CIA/DOJ has been going after the Swiss bankers lately. It look like this "terrorist" was on the list of people's accounts recently demanded by the US Government in violation of Swiss banking laws or they wouldn't have settled.
On one hand I think it's a sovereign state, and the US has no business there. On the other, the banking lobby is so powerful they REFUSE to be bound by the law not to transfer to banks that the Feds can't monitor and refuse to play along to help catch terrorists. It's not tricky at all to stop money from going to Swiss accounts, make it illegal, just like it's illegal for US banks to transfer to these gambling sites, or to Iran. If the reporting bank won't answer legal summons about the owner of the account then make the transfer illegal, it's just as easy as hauling in guys for illegal gambling... and it could be quite lucrative to get some of the money US bankers have been managing after the bailouts back seizing lots of this money to balance the federal budget!
On another hand, the Swiss bankers are bastards profiting off arms dealers, terrorists, drug dealers, mass murderers, war criminals, etc. When these people are caught or killed by governments, the Swiss are the ones laughing while illegally gained money nobody knows about pumps up their coffers.... and because the person doesn't live in Switzerland the basics of next-of-kin or reporting money to governments doesn't have to be followed when death notices are issued. Switzerland should have been the First target after 9/11 because THEY are how the various black ops and terrorists move their money around illegally causing suffering in the third world, creating and arming terrorists, when they won't return money dictators and criminals steal from struggling dirt farmers. Never forget 9/11 was an attack on a BANK not a military post, not some random landmark.
He did leave the US shortly after the law was passed changing the legal status of his business. He's one of the guys where his flight between non-US destinations had an "emergency" and the DOJ "arrested" him at an "international" location outside the gates of US Customs.
I always find it funny that it's OK for US corporations to leave when they don't like Taxes, Environmental laws, Labor laws, Executive responsibility laws, to places like Bermuda, China, Taiwan, Honduras, running their US business into the ground and wrecking jobs for tens of thousands, but his little "gambling" site involved the need to conduct international sting operations and illegally divert aircraft.
that's why the 3 month requirement. The problem now is that 75%+ of trades are "subsecond" trades made between when Somebody clicks "Sell" and YOU click "Buy" using automated systems. The same is true with Day Traders that try to do the process manually. While it does provide liquidity in that somebody is always willing to buy or sell, the majority of it is high speed betting, Day Traders lose their money just like gamblers, not calculated investments. The only thing that matters in business is the quarterly report... it's the only LEGALLY PUBLISHED document about company health, the rest of the stuff people use is hearsay, astrology, etc.
but it's not really that illegal. For years my local horse track had remote betting for other tracks... i.e. across telephone lines. The State lottery runs multi-state games that are real-time across multiple states.. again using telephone lines... The only people "online betting" is illegal for are the guys that founded it.
They should have gotten a business method patent!!!
You mean like when Kentucky was trying to seize internet "gambling" domains... while at the same time trying to allow online betting for THEIR horse tracks that also goes across federal telecommunications lines... breaking the same federal laws. "Internet Gambling" wasn't even illegal when these guys started out.
The real reason this is on slashdot is that these IT people were put in a Terry Childs like position by these goons. And more situations like this will be coming.
The county consolidated systems to build a big, safe data center, but has lots of infighting. They put IT under control of a separate IT department and made sure everybody was cleared for everything needed to be admins. Now the police come in at gun point because a) they claim to want their computer "back". and b) they're investigating another department and the IT staff is following the law waiting for proper court judgments. So the police go, put a gun to the IT staff's heads to get what they want, it was even said the sheriff knows of no improper use of the police data by IT and that IT was properly authorized...
As county IT departments are more strapped for cash, nice big racks of Sans and blades are the rage for maximum IT staff utilization... we'll see lots more consolidation... and these police just declared war on the "keepers" of those systems... i.e. on other people who do our jobs too!
The sheriff is mixing is cases. The criminal database is one server in a 5 department shared data center. They used police jurisdiction of that ONE computer (that the sheriff agreed to co-locate by the way) to justify throwing the IT staff for ALL the computers out and demanded passwords be turned over. The sheriff is investigating people in the other departments, has sued for access to emails and such, but was denied by court pending judgment. They now have the the whole county IT data center with no witnesses... get it!
the sheriff's office obviously PUT the computers into the county IT department without force several years ago... correct? The Board or the IT people did not TAKE his computer, it was put under their control, which other posters have said can be legal with the proper government clearances. Obviously the IT department had those when this SAME sheriff gave these computers to them!! He's using a budget crisis and laid off IT staff to make a grab at the server room.
This is about a co-located system that sits in a room with several other departments the sheriff would like to investigate and has suits in process explicitly not to get emails and such from the County until the court rules. They forced all of the IT people out, under threat of arrest, and demanded passwords to what systems exactly? With all the admin passwords what data in other departments are they accessing? If it was a Federal problem with the criminal database the Feds themselves would have sent the county a strongly worded letter and made things happen... i.e. a new locked server room for that computer... but that's not what's going on.
like somebody on the newspaper site pointed out, another court was still in process about the contents of the computers seized and these police just went and took them. This computer room also hosts several other systems intermixed, that the police don't have jurisdiction, nor the county's authority, to access. The agreement was reached only 3 years ago, so the specific head of the police department agreed to those terms.. not somebody else.
Best of all though he was seeking emails of other county officials in other departments as evidence.... and he just walked in and took it, from a third party, without warrant.... whatever evidence is in those emails is now strictly off limits for his investigations as he committed contempt of court by violating an ongoing court case and by hijacking the admins by force. Whoever had any incriminations will get to walk from here on!!!! Man needs impeached for sheer legal incompetence.
so the IT people have bosses, and the police department should have LAWYERS working for them to get this stuff legally. There's plenty of legal means to get access and filing the right papers will get the IT staff to "step away from the keyboard" in a hot minute.
What this guy did to the IT staff was WRONG, wrong as a citizen, wrong as a city employee, and wrong as a Law Enforcement official. Obviously, he signed away his responsibilities over the system and just like in the Childs case wanted to make the problem the "IT guy's" fault, not the managers that told them how to run the shop.
what ever he did or didn't do hopefully the IT people in charge will just walk away from it, especially if they ran an honest system before this guy showed up. There are plenty of ways to see exactly what changed, but for their sakes it's better if they don't ever set foot in the server room again even if the Feds step in and clear the IT staff of any wrong doing. Basically they all got put in another Terry Childs position and did the "right" thing with a gun to their heads.
because the IT guy knows Federal law for tampering with computers and knows not to break it! Somebody is using the Law properly and knows they didn't do anything wrong. The point is exactly, that the sherriff probably asked for the admin password and the IT staff, at gun point gave it too him. That usually doesn't cover all the IT employee accounts and the "secret" admin account we all keep when we forget our admin AND our personal passwords.
IT guys have enough to throw these guys in jail, they don't need to screw it up!
Whoa there, your saying we should treat people like we expect them to act on the outside?
That's the one thing about recent Marines training, that they've been working on not actually breaking the troops like they used too because they realized they were being to harsh and simply creating "thugs" not independent, responsible warriors. Jails should be like Boot Camp preparing you to leave, not demeaning you so you don't know how to live without being "broken" daily.
perhaps the good sheriff will be spending some time there next week!!!
We used to run jails like that... and it didn't actually work either, with critical, scientific studies proved it was full of sadistic pricks without checks they became just as cruel as the people they were supposed to be "punishing".
Then you call somebody impartial like the FBI and present your case and THEY secure the equipment from the Civil service and from YOU.
And they used "guns" to do threaten public employees. That they ARE public employees makes no difference. They obviously didn't have a warrant from a judge and they threatened law abiding employees in a different department.
Like it or not "law enforcement" is JUST A JOB!!!!! They are no different than any other public employee when dealing with matters like this... BOFH is going to have fun with them.... but if they were smart they'd walk away from their jobs Monday and file civil rights and workplace violence suits against their employers. Not to mention criminal charges with the state police/FBI for hijacking a computer system. Tampering with a public computer system alone ought to get the police 10-20 years!!!
they're not trumping any law. inside the space they rent they ask for people to follow a contract about taking the media outside. Just like your employer asks you to sign an NDA for emails that go to the "public" internet. The space for the week is rented, so it has all the same rights as any other rented venue... how many rock concerts are at publicly funded arenas yet clearly forbid recording?
What good is a software house that can't manage it's own PCs running software?
Seriously, if you have that much IP, and Software is your specialty, then you have need of dedicated services as a risk factor to your investors and it's a business risk to outsource and cut corners.
On the other hand, your best bet is to designate an internal support contact that hold the "keys to the kingdom" and partner with a good firm with expertise you need to get the job done. Then your company man has the backing he needs and can control costs, but you're not letting the horses out of the barn. If you want on site service they'll give you that... for a fee.
One thing to realize is that many true management firms run their customers just like bigger enterprise IT departments do. They use the SMS and other tools to manage on you off-hours to save you money and provide security with planned roll outs and regular updates. They have several customers so they can pay one guy to be expert and test stuff.. Also, if you expect 1 hour service or nite call-outs then they're going to want to give their people remote access to save their employees time as well.
I would suppose that's why companies have you pay, then you try to get the best deal possible with your money, and executives like it because they paid up front they get to keep the perks for vacation.
Core Duo (vanilla) doesn't have VT at all.. it's not a fully 64-bit chip like Core 2 Duo is.
Common misconception because intel pre-marketed Core 2 Duo all over the place and quietly sold OEMS Core Duo for cheap.
Macs were the first to get Core 2 Duos and the issue has already come up because certain SL features require VT and 64 bit which the first round of Macbooks/pros didn't have because Core 2 Duo wasn't released yet.
need to start charging them interest and fees then for borrowing "my" money...ain't free after all.
I don't see setting a number as that bad up front. If you have a job making $X and there's no way they can match it (or offer other benefits/compensation) then you've saved them time wasted because they can't afford you.
The bigger problem people are having now is that they DON'T have $X right now because they go laid off.... it's a bit more touchy as I used to make $X and live comfortably but it depends on what the employer will do with it. On one hand you may need to find another job close to $X in order to make ends meet and for your skill set... you'll still get bastards out there thinking it's like car haggling where they can offer 25% less because you don't have a job now and you "have to" take a job.
On the other hand if they're offer is way MORE than what you are making is there some reason for it? Is it a true promotion after 10 years experience, or are have you jumped into a bigger company with a bigger pay scale and bigger expectations of you? Not making "enough" for the interviewer's number may also have some issues.
I wouldn't worry much about it because any company dealing in "IP" work should be providing me with the tools I need, laptop, office software, development environment to meet their standards anyway. I come from the other side that uniformity removes many problems and allows for easier disaster recovery and backup of critical information... if they were expecting me to work from home or something on my OWN machines I'd have a problem with that.
good point... this is where the interviewer giveth and the HR department taketh away.
But it's "standard" paperwork, and "company rules" so the HR person HAS TO make you follow them even if it's not what you were told. Classic bait and switch.