a comparable imac goes for 1200 and change. the dvd burning one goes for 1500 and this thing is more expensive. they are dreaming if they think they are going to compete with a pc product against the mac all in one. if gateway couldn't do it with a whole retail supply chain, i don't see how the yippie pc is gonna survive much past that introduction, haha.
google seems to be quietly readying it's desktop tools and poised to try and knock m$ft off. so far, they have a search engine, email platform, news service, image service, shopping helper and even Answers. at some point, they are going to tie all of this together into the proverbial "simple, easy solution" to operate one's computer.
their ultimate goal is to complete the inevitable commoditization of the windows platform. then it is only a short step to porting that system (web and desktop integrated) to other platforms that are open and freely available like gnome, to replace windows.
i have seen a couple of slightly wormy apples in my time. However, and no offense to you, maybe you recieved reconditioned machines or used, that were abused, but. . . . . .
most of the people that have trouble with macs that i have observed, are terribly abusive to their machines. i knew one guy who managed to get a machine out of apple, after he dropped it repeatedly, spilled coffee on it, and probably untold horrors. his main goal was a free upgrade. and he beat that machine up too.
i think on the whole, mac users report that the apple hardware is of high quality and lives through lots of standard use.
my last 667 went thru three years between 2 power users, the first a 24/7 ebayaholic, and then he sold it to me and i beat it into my graphics design business, didn't shut the damn thing off for 2 years. by the end, one of the hinges was cracked, the battery is way low and the paint is disintegrated near the wrists from use, yet, 450 bucks was still a bargain to the buyer, and the machine still runs great!
the fact is, macs last longer, they are made better, and they resell extremely well!
personally, i just got a new 12" powerbook. spent $1600 total (had to buy airport) and this made great economic sense, because i sold my old 667 Tibook for $475.
when a PC is old, what can you do with it? if you're lucky, you don't have to pay for it to be recycled.
c'mon, how many people really check these things? i wait until i have 15 or so on my cellphone (i have vonage too), and most of the messaging on there i consider spam, and it's left by friends, clients and a crazy female geek loving girl. the girl is the only non-spam message on there;) i think that people leave messages on my v-mail just to hear themselves speak!
mac users that get things done haven't booted classic in years now. i would say i have used it (off of my external fw disk) a grand total of like once a year for the last three years now, ever since 10.2. what's left on classic?
"There's nothing like playing a game on the real hardware using real controllers -- emulators can only get you so far," says Grand.
Get you so far where? ? ? ?
I mean, I'm a guy who owns a damn apple newton and a next cube (anyone wanna buy a next cube?) and at least i had minorly practical reasons for getting each way past their prime, and have even gotten some use out of the newton (cube is a Damn Fine Paper Weight)
sorry, but if it sounds to me too much like the geek version of sucking a tit, so sue me.
i'm really not trying to troll, and this is my first post to/. in a few months, but come on guys! I even agree that gameplay suffers when games have more eyecandy than fun, but. . . . . . . . . .
rather than address the root of an issue (buggy software that crashes alot) m$ would rather write swiss cheese and sell it (software that recovers well from its many crashes). of course, this leads to bloat.
i'm sure there's recipies for pasta, and other monstrosities buried in that zillion lines of winbloze code. but at least it recovers from all those crashes.
I want my OS to monitor the integrity of my critcal files (AV)
you poor sap. the source of the problem is a terribly insecure environment. the source of said problem is microsloth. guess what, these people know security like the back of their a%s and haven't been looking there much lately except with great "security" marketing initiatives using apple tibooks. Guess what. How Well is a "free" M$ going to virus scanner protect you? ??? ?? ? ? ? ? ?
i have never seen any virus that degrades the performance of a machine like AV software. now, the kings of software bloat are going to stick you with one, you poor unsuspecting User. yes, all my poor users will be crying, my computer is slow and tells me what to do now. if m$ really had a heart they would make a spyware scanner.
worse yet, any virus worth its salt will attack either sco, microsoft or your installed antivirus software.
my pronouncement is that this will, in time solve the problem of windows viruses altogether. because after another year or two, m$ will be dropped from the upgrade cycle for having such insecure s$#t-ware that nobody will touch it. killing norton like this will only leave windoze even less secure.
strange as this may sound, norton is the Ultimate Security Blanket, like what linus in the peanuts (pun not intended) carried around. people figure that if they have two companies looking out for viruses, they'll be protected. not that there is any truth to that. again, virii attack AV software first unless, of course the writer is a typical windows user like t33kid who only infected how many thousands of machines? ? ? ? ??
maybe, SP2 will be the straw that crunches the only "ISV" that we all thought they really needed, and breaks their own backs in the process. . . ... .
come on, i'm sure there's some less than anonymous *nix variant running these rovers. are they using ssh or telnet? what other custom tools are going on in there? surely somebody knows! do tell, this is your time to gloat over your favorite distro!
you look at the programs that NO ENTERPRISE WANTS TO ADOPT early. windoze 2k didn't gain wide acceptance until 2002 and 2003 server and its cohorts probably won't grab the same market share that 2k has overall, because of its massive security and compatibility issues.
yes, you heard it here first. apple is eventually going to port their stuff to x86, all of it. and apparently, HP will be their first licensed manufacturer of HP OS X boxen. move over winbloze, mac's back!
since its been a while, lemme fill you in. SOUNDS LIKE SPYWARE TO ME. if you apply the kiss principle to this one, it is probably the same technique they've been using for years.
perhaps this is the security hole that microsoft is LEAVING VULNERABLE ON PURPOSE IN OUTLOOK???????????? good lord, lots of these holes allow the described driveby shooting method of malware infestation.
but doesn't everyone need a device that crashes more with a far more vulnerable and exposed LCD screen that can crack any time you nudge it wrong? ? ? ? unless that amazing hardware company M$ has a super new screen that's tough enough to be trashed like the iPuck, em, iPod
look at that thing! its just a pocket pc with a hard drive, which is not a bad idea at all. but to call it an ipod killer is IMHO, silly. it simply doesn't seem to be competing in the same field either.
oh, just to complete the broadside. this is typical m$ style hype. they try to ride the coat tails of an apple product announcement with their own, FAR BETTER vaporware product. then, they skitter along with their windows hammer for a year or so and try and make their nails just like apple's, fail miserably, and declare victory.
i think the public has finally woke up to this tactic. did i mention that IBM was dragged through the anti-trust wars over this kind of vaporware woes?
for a change, to break backwards compatibility, but we have to ask them. WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING THIS TIME???? finally, x86 becomes THE commodity platform and they try to kill it ?? ? ? makes no sense. AMD knew what was up all along. IBM did the same with its 64 bit offering, and Sun still makes slow processors (fun to complain about hardware too).
anyway, they screwed the pooch, but will never correct the mistake. when you've got a few billion dollars, you can wait just long enough to lose most any amount of money on a new product.
It could create one-click installation procedures and save millions more man-hours. It could build a system that automatically finds and loads drivers over the Internet and save millions more
not to be anti-m$ or anything, but they have a web search system in windoze. its one of hundreds of non-working features loaded into the cruft, er, i mean system bloatware.
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a comparable imac goes for 1200 and change. the dvd burning one goes for 1500 and this thing is more expensive. they are dreaming if they think they are going to compete with a pc product against the mac all in one. if gateway couldn't do it with a whole retail supply chain, i don't see how the yippie pc is gonna survive much past that introduction, haha.
their ultimate goal is to complete the inevitable commoditization of the windows platform. then it is only a short step to porting that system (web and desktop integrated) to other platforms that are open and freely available like gnome, to replace windows.
most of the people that have trouble with macs that i have observed, are terribly abusive to their machines. i knew one guy who managed to get a machine out of apple, after he dropped it repeatedly, spilled coffee on it, and probably untold horrors. his main goal was a free upgrade. and he beat that machine up too.
i think on the whole, mac users report that the apple hardware is of high quality and lives through lots of standard use.
my last 667 went thru three years between 2 power users, the first a 24/7 ebayaholic, and then he sold it to me and i beat it into my graphics design business, didn't shut the damn thing off for 2 years. by the end, one of the hinges was cracked, the battery is way low and the paint is disintegrated near the wrists from use, yet, 450 bucks was still a bargain to the buyer, and the machine still runs great!
personally, i just got a new 12" powerbook. spent $1600 total (had to buy airport) and this made great economic sense, because i sold my old 667 Tibook for $475.
when a PC is old, what can you do with it? if you're lucky, you don't have to pay for it to be recycled.
c'mon, how many people really check these things? i wait until i have 15 or so on my cellphone (i have vonage too), and most of the messaging on there i consider spam, and it's left by friends, clients and a crazy female geek loving girl. the girl is the only non-spam message on there ;) i think that people leave messages on my v-mail just to hear themselves speak!
mac users that get things done haven't booted classic in years now. i would say i have used it (off of my external fw disk) a grand total of like once a year for the last three years now, ever since 10.2. what's left on classic?
send me some email. it works just fine, fires up and runs. just don't have space for it any more. grant(nospam)@grantstern.com
"There's nothing like playing a game on the real hardware using real controllers -- emulators can only get you so far," says Grand.
Get you so far where? ? ? ?
I mean, I'm a guy who owns a damn apple newton and a next cube (anyone wanna buy a next cube?) and at least i had minorly practical reasons for getting each way past their prime, and have even gotten some use out of the newton (cube is a Damn Fine Paper Weight)
sorry, but if it sounds to me too much like the geek version of sucking a tit, so sue me.
i'm really not trying to troll, and this is my first post to /. in a few months, but come on guys! I even agree that gameplay suffers when games have more eyecandy than fun, but. . . . . . . . . .
just publish all arrests by RSS to a few sites. everyone will love it! (not)
does m$ delete all references to themselves and big gates? hehe.
i live less than a mile from jackson memorial hospital, which happens to be our county's main ER. makes me glad 2b in good hands :)
i'm sure there's recipies for pasta, and other monstrosities buried in that zillion lines of winbloze code. but at least it recovers from all those crashes.
you poor sap. the source of the problem is a terribly insecure environment. the source of said problem is microsloth. guess what, these people know security like the back of their a%s and haven't been looking there much lately except with great "security" marketing initiatives using apple tibooks. Guess what. How Well is a "free" M$ going to virus scanner protect you? ??? ?? ? ? ? ? ?
i have never seen any virus that degrades the performance of a machine like AV software. now, the kings of software bloat are going to stick you with one, you poor unsuspecting User. yes, all my poor users will be crying, my computer is slow and tells me what to do now. if m$ really had a heart they would make a spyware scanner.
worse yet, any virus worth its salt will attack either sco, microsoft or your installed antivirus software.
my pronouncement is that this will, in time solve the problem of windows viruses altogether. because after another year or two, m$ will be dropped from the upgrade cycle for having such insecure s$#t-ware that nobody will touch it. killing norton like this will only leave windoze even less secure.
strange as this may sound, norton is the Ultimate Security Blanket, like what linus in the peanuts (pun not intended) carried around. people figure that if they have two companies looking out for viruses, they'll be protected. not that there is any truth to that. again, virii attack AV software first unless, of course the writer is a typical windows user like t33kid who only infected how many thousands of machines? ? ? ? ??
maybe, SP2 will be the straw that crunches the only "ISV" that we all thought they really needed, and breaks their own backs in the process. . . . .. .
we can all dream, can't we?
its like being on a sea cruise, but different!
come on, i'm sure there's some less than anonymous *nix variant running these rovers. are they using ssh or telnet? what other custom tools are going on in there? surely somebody knows! do tell, this is your time to gloat over your favorite distro!
you look at the programs that NO ENTERPRISE WANTS TO ADOPT early. windoze 2k didn't gain wide acceptance until 2002 and 2003 server and its cohorts probably won't grab the same market share that 2k has overall, because of its massive security and compatibility issues.
this ones for you ralf :)
yes, you heard it here first. apple is eventually going to port their stuff to x86, all of it. and apparently, HP will be their first licensed manufacturer of HP OS X boxen. move over winbloze, mac's back!
perhaps this is the security hole that microsoft is LEAVING VULNERABLE ON PURPOSE IN OUTLOOK???????????? good lord, lots of these holes allow the described driveby shooting method of malware infestation.
look at that thing! its just a pocket pc with a hard drive, which is not a bad idea at all. but to call it an ipod killer is IMHO, silly. it simply doesn't seem to be competing in the same field either.
oh, just to complete the broadside. this is typical m$ style hype. they try to ride the coat tails of an apple product announcement with their own, FAR BETTER vaporware product. then, they skitter along with their windows hammer for a year or so and try and make their nails just like apple's, fail miserably, and declare victory.
i think the public has finally woke up to this tactic. did i mention that IBM was dragged through the anti-trust wars over this kind of vaporware woes?
anyway, they screwed the pooch, but will never correct the mistake. when you've got a few billion dollars, you can wait just long enough to lose most any amount of money on a new product.
not to be anti-m$ or anything, but they have a web search system in windoze. its one of hundreds of non-working features loaded into the cruft, er, i mean system bloatware.
wow, i didn't know that half of all email is just anti-spammers discussing how to torch spam. jeez, talk about collateral damage ;) hehe
the constant screaming across the house where i grew up! :)
screaming, while i clutch the pizza box! they took commodity hosting to a great level.