According to their logic, North Korean citizens have exactly as much freedom of speech as we do in the US...
Um, no. I'm pretty sure you can say Very Bad Things about the U.S. president, your Senator, congressperson, etc., without being disappeared. What you can't do is make threats against their lives.
Getting arrested and jailed? Yes, in fact, it does protect you from that; that's the entire meaning of the term.
If you threaten in person to shoot me and eat my still-beating heart, I can have you arrested.
What makes this any different? The "j/k" at the end? No, because you can threaten in person to shoot me and eat my still-beating heart, and then follow it immediately with a "just kidding," but if I have reasonable cause to believe you're not "just kidding"... I can still have you arrested.
If you don't see the problem, then may I suggest joking about bombing a plane the next time you're in an airport? Let me know how that works for you.
The issue is the epic stupidity of the police for not being able to look at this in context and realize he wasn't actually making a real threat.
Let's say they looked at it and decided, "Oh, it's just a joke, he doesn't mean anything by it."
Then, two months later, the kid does shoot up a school.
What do you think would happen when a reporter found out after the fact that the police were warned about him but didn't do anything?
I'm not saying he will shoot up a school, but not everything with a "lol j/k" behind it is something that can be dismissed as harmless. The police department had to do its due diligence in investigating the reported threat. Because here's the thing: there's nothing funny about threatening violence against another human being.
Of course, the source for the original story is the Daily Caller, which has never let facts stand in the way of a good story...
Actually, yeah, it kinda is. We know for a fact Rome existed 2,000 years ago, and we know cultures existed in the Middle East 6,000 years ago, so Christianity's origin story has at least some basis in reality. Scientology, not so much.
Do you think you have better oral health than people in the rest of the world where fluoridation is mostly non-existant?
Having never had a cavity in my life, I'm going to say yes.
Do you think people in f.ex Sweden and Norway have bad teeth?
Are you willing to pay for a socialized health care system in lieu of fluoride? I think that would be a much better solution, but something tells me you wouldn't go for that either.
Do you think you don't get enough fluoride from your tooth paste, so that you must also swallow it and wash yourself in it to get strong teeth, which is where most of it goes?
I think fluoride is basically like Vitamin C: There are no ill effects, and it'd be pretty damn hard, if not impossible, to overdose on the stuff through normal consumption. I also think that sodium fluoride washes off the skin like pretty much anything else that happens to be in the water -- or like soap, for that matter.
You seem to be a brainwashed sheep and an absolute moron yourself to be honest.
Right. A "brainwashed sheep" with perfect dental health who's done enough homework on his own to know that water fluoridation has no ill effects and has a great deal of benefits in addition to fluoridated toothpaste.
Protip: Sodium fluoride doesn't have any harmful effects at normal levels, but aluminum toxicity is a real thing, so you should probably stop chewing on your tinfoil hat before it causes you any more brain damage.
The point is, yes, their rep can be salvaged, because people really dont care that much for very long.
Fair point, but Microsoft handed Sony the opportunity to reclaim their lost confidence with the gaming community and then some. Can't really fault Sony for taking full advantage of it.
Snowden claims that one of the specific reasons why he chose to act is because the NSA was deliberately lying to congress. If that isn't a crime, it should be.
As a fellow Commodore fan (owned a C=128 back in the day), I should point out that people have been saying this for about as long as we've had customer PCs. They haven't gone anywhere, and they won't: In fact, I suspect they'll become an increasingly attractive alternative to the shit-tier "next-gen" console systems Microsoft and Sony are trying to foist onto the public, once people realize the limitations of those systems and the advantages PCs have to offer.
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According to their logic, North Korean citizens have exactly as much freedom of speech as we do in the US...
Um, no. I'm pretty sure you can say Very Bad Things about the U.S. president, your Senator, congressperson, etc., without being disappeared. What you can't do is make threats against their lives.
Getting arrested and jailed? Yes, in fact, it does protect you from that; that's the entire meaning of the term.
If you threaten in person to shoot me and eat my still-beating heart, I can have you arrested.
What makes this any different? The "j/k" at the end? No, because you can threaten in person to shoot me and eat my still-beating heart, and then follow it immediately with a "just kidding," but if I have reasonable cause to believe you're not "just kidding" ... I can still have you arrested.
If you don't see the problem, then may I suggest joking about bombing a plane the next time you're in an airport? Let me know how that works for you.
OK, when you're done being snarky, riddle me this: What forms of expression are not protected under the First Amendment?
Do some research, and you'll find threats are on that list.
The issue is the epic stupidity of the police for not being able to look at this in context and realize he wasn't actually making a real threat.
Let's say they looked at it and decided, "Oh, it's just a joke, he doesn't mean anything by it."
Then, two months later, the kid does shoot up a school.
What do you think would happen when a reporter found out after the fact that the police were warned about him but didn't do anything?
I'm not saying he will shoot up a school, but not everything with a "lol j/k" behind it is something that can be dismissed as harmless. The police department had to do its due diligence in investigating the reported threat. Because here's the thing: there's nothing funny about threatening violence against another human being.
Of course, the source for the original story is the Daily Caller, which has never let facts stand in the way of a good story ...
He wasn't actually making a direct threat at any place or thing...just shooting off his mouth.
Freedom of speech does not absolve one from responsibility for the consequences of the speech in question.
Because they actually had screenshots of slides marked "Top Secret" on their website.
The Xenu story *is* no sillier than Christianity.
Actually, yeah, it kinda is. We know for a fact Rome existed 2,000 years ago, and we know cultures existed in the Middle East 6,000 years ago, so Christianity's origin story has at least some basis in reality. Scientology, not so much.
Do you think you have better oral health than people in the rest of the world where fluoridation is mostly non-existant?
Having never had a cavity in my life, I'm going to say yes.
Do you think people in f.ex Sweden and Norway have bad teeth?
Are you willing to pay for a socialized health care system in lieu of fluoride? I think that would be a much better solution, but something tells me you wouldn't go for that either.
Do you think you don't get enough fluoride from your tooth paste, so that you must also swallow it and wash yourself in it to get strong teeth, which is where most of it goes?
I think fluoride is basically like Vitamin C: There are no ill effects, and it'd be pretty damn hard, if not impossible, to overdose on the stuff through normal consumption. I also think that sodium fluoride washes off the skin like pretty much anything else that happens to be in the water -- or like soap, for that matter.
You seem to be a brainwashed sheep and an absolute moron yourself to be honest.
Right. A "brainwashed sheep" with perfect dental health who's done enough homework on his own to know that water fluoridation has no ill effects and has a great deal of benefits in addition to fluoridated toothpaste.
Protip: Sodium fluoride doesn't have any harmful effects at normal levels, but aluminum toxicity is a real thing, so you should probably stop chewing on your tinfoil hat before it causes you any more brain damage.
Yes, because God forbid people should have the chance to grow up with all their teeth. Moron.
The point is, yes, their rep can be salvaged, because people really dont care that much for very long.
Fair point, but Microsoft handed Sony the opportunity to reclaim their lost confidence with the gaming community and then some. Can't really fault Sony for taking full advantage of it.
They still lost a sale here because of the combination of hubris and stupidity required to make such a decision re: DRM in the first place.
That's still a negative?
No, but government information operations tends to lag behind the civilian sector by a decade or two ...
Bingo. And beyond that, the correct question in the first place should be, "What part of the Constitution allows this particular act?"
Indeed.
Problem is, you can't pardon someone until after he's been convicted.
Snowden claims that one of the specific reasons why he chose to act is because the NSA was deliberately lying to congress. If that isn't a crime, it should be.
Isn't that why Clinton was impeached?
Seriously, this guy is a criminal and should face the consequences of his actions.
Sorry for the confusion, but you're talking about the gentleman who greenlit this entire domestic espionage program, I presume?
Things have not changed.
They have only gotten worse.
Pick one.
It is for nerds, I guess?
Customer PCs are on the way out.
As a fellow Commodore fan (owned a C=128 back in the day), I should point out that people have been saying this for about as long as we've had customer PCs. They haven't gone anywhere, and they won't: In fact, I suspect they'll become an increasingly attractive alternative to the shit-tier "next-gen" console systems Microsoft and Sony are trying to foist onto the public, once people realize the limitations of those systems and the advantages PCs have to offer.
I used to come here for interesting stories and responses, but now I have to wade through 100 pointless quips to get to one informative one.
A hundred and one now, so thanks for that. :P
Clearly you didn't watch their coverage of the Supreme Court's ruling on Obamacare, then.
They probably wouldn't do that, your balls being an animal product and all. :)
Penn and Teller would like a word ... and the word is "Bullshit."
I remember back in the Wild West days of the Internet, when "People Eating Tasty Animals" actually owned the www.peta.org domain ...