Precisely. It should be patently obvious to anyone with a functional brain that rocks to do not evolve. If you know what evolution is, and you know what rocks are, you should immediately recognize this.
No, sorry. Not precisely. Making assumptions of how anything “should” be obvious, is just arrogant and fails precisely at the point I mentioned: To bring arguments to the table and put them on a solid common basis.
You can’t ever expect someone else to blindly accept your assumptions. Or else there would be no point in using arguments, because one could just blindly state something, and insult the other person because “it’s patently obvious”. But your comment did exactly that, fails to find common ground. And only attacks with empty “you are wrong, I am right. Because your definition is wrong, and mine is right“ pseudo-arguments.
Sorry, that’s not how this works. If you notice that someone does not share your oh-so-common assumption, you have to go deeper. Until you find something that you both agree on. (As long as you do not end up at the big bang, there is no excuse! You can also stop arguing altogether, if it’ss not worth the effort. But you can not just stand there as if the other one is an idiot.) When you have found that common base that you both agree upon, you walk your way up to your original argument, by using only proper logic, that the other person can follow. Maybe having to find more supporting legs for that next step. Only then can you ever convince anyone to change his mind.
Because the base was something that did fit his own (sense of) reality too. And by following these links of logic, you show how your argument is also linked into *his* reality. Which means that because a human always must assume his own reality is correct (or go crazy/die), it follows that your argument must be correct too. That is how it works.
And then you still got the emotional part, that still might fight it of for reasons that that person does not even understand itself. (E.g. because of repressed bad associations with it, stemming from previous events.) Those can be countered by always linking good feelings to your argument. E.g. by positive reinforcement. Or by telling that person how wonderful (and better than now) the world is for them, if they see it that way.
Exactly what I thought: BULLSHIT of the highest grade.
I was born in ’78, and I communicate preferably with an IM client, via phone or by meeting someone. Just like friends of mine who are 10 years younger, and sometimes 10 years older. And I already did this in ’96 right when ICQ came out, with many young people of my age. A time when that pseudo-article suggests ICQ users were just about to be born.
Yeah right. You know what? I’m from ’78, and I use EPIC FAIL, to describe this farticle.
I’m the norm, not the exception. And I got all of Facebook to prove it. Maybe the author just missed time by some decades, is unable to keep up with the times, yet still assumes he can speak for us all.
Because that is the only point over using any other browser out there. Firefox is not exactly fast or lightweight, you know. And without extensions it can’t hold a candle to Opera.
If extensions are going to get replaced, it will be by something that is so equal in what it offers, that it most likely still will be called extensions.
If they really kill their reason of existence off, I’ll switch over to Opera in the blink of an eye. The Opera guys never disappointed me, and always were pioneers.
Imagine a very powerful cell phone. With super-fast bluetooth. (Or wired bus if you prefer that.) Now imagine a normal screen, keyboard, mouse, and speakers/amplifier. All with bluetooth. There. If the speed and storage size are good, that’s all you usually need.
Now imagine a dock where you put the phone in, to give it monstrous 3d hardware acceleration capabilities, or something else that needs a faster bus than bt can provide. Then you got games and professional use covered too.
Finally one or multiple contact-lens displays, glasses, and a gesture glove reduced to some tiny ring or something. (There is something better, but I can’t talk about that right now.)
No, it doesn’t. If someone spends years and years on a topic, and still has the feeling he understands nothing at all, then clearly, he’s just too dumb for it.
It’s like high voltage without high current. The result is a not very bright and maybe even destroyed lamp.
But you’re no better. You insult the other side, and bring no arguments to the table. You’re obviously right... to us... but to them, you now just made it worse, making them protect themselves from your pointless attacks even more.
This time, I’ll do it for you: The difference is, that Rocks have no fitness function. Which is the difference between undirected change and directed evolution.
But the next time, if you wanna act superior, bring an argument. Like a common basis, and proper logic on top of it.
The huge failure here is, to have this pointless urge, to draw a line between life and death. There is none. It’s a gradient! Just like there is no separation between intelligent and dumb. Or between alive and dead when you ask if something is a life form. The wish to draw a line is purely a human artifact.
But if you start to ask: How much alive is something? Or: how much of a life form is something? How intelligent is it? Then you start get answers that are useful and make sense. Now all you have to do, is stop thinking in absolutes, and only think of relative answers. “Less alive than us. Less of a life form and less intelligent too. But more alive, more of a life form and more intelligent, than a stone or a carbohydrate.”
It would be okay if you could be stuffed plugging it into USB whenever you sat down but thats too hard.
That’s too hard?? What kind of lazy ass are you?? *blinks* It’s still there...
Unbelievable. That is exactly the kind of attitude, that natural selection is there to weed out. what’s next? “Oh this walking to the toilet is too hard, so I’ll need a catheter. Or else i’m just going to piss myself.”
Un-fuckin-believable. I must save this, put it into a sig. It just blow my mind...
I just found a very old hard disk. Double height. MFM/RLL. And after a “strings -n 32/dev/hdd”, I got the following old saying, carved in the bytes of the disk:
Thing is: You can only be expert in ONE of them. Period.
I for one, choose CS. Waaayy more interesting, and compared to the nerdiness level of statistics, we look like Joe Sixpack coming to the club in his sports car, with two girls in the back.;) If I want to do statistics, I can always hire someone.
Know nothing after year and years? So what’s the point then? Sorry... I can think of several millions of more efficient, more useful and more fun things to do with my life.
I hear you, about people acting like they are experts, but actually knowing shit. Like someone having read a book about HTML, who now thinks he’s a cool programmer. Or someone who clicks together a default database front-end type application, and acts as if he could compete with someone who designs hard math algorithms in Haskell or writes an OS in C/Assembler.
But I think you put way more importance on statistics, than is needed for programming. Because it’s your lovechild (nothing wrong with that). We programmers need to be good programmers. There’s only so much time in a day, to keep up-to-date with all the crazy stuff going on in CS. There are little non-science jobs where you have to keep up so much. There’s simply no place for also becoming an expert in hardware design, graphics design, usability, physics, all the areas of mathematics, including statistics, etc, etc, etc.
If I need good statistics, I’ll hire you. As soon as you know that you know them. Because there is nothing more valuable, than someone who is in love with his work. Happy?:)
Then how about you give me your address? I have a nice 30 feet high ad-frame, featuring my documentary “Home of Goatse”, that I want to place around the entry to your house.
Because if anyone sees an ad next to his house, that does not fly with him, he’s gonna sue. Which means basically everyone who gets that this could mean money. Which in this artificially bad economy means everyone.;)
“Hey, how about instead of creating a contact between a tiny plug of a small portable recharger, we create a contact with large mat that takes away space in your home?” Wow, great idea!
I’ve seen many stupid pointless things in my life, but this one takes the trophy!
If anyone plans to buy this thing, please tell me where you live, so I can come by, and laugh at you.;) I’ll bring gifts too: Clippy and MS Bob, a pair of cuff links, a set of ten table overlays, a water-tight sun-dial, and a tricycle with four-wheel drive.
Damnit! I wish there were an English version of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeGtUSA73_g It says just what you said, but in a really great way. Anyone care to translate it?
Freiheit hat mit Deutschland selbstverständlich was zu tun, sofern man wirtschaftlich dazu was beiträgt. Manche müssen unfrei bleiben. Keiner ist immun, wenn er den Zug versäumt, der ihn dann freiträgt. Wenn er den Zug nicht sieht und alles komplizieren muß, tja, dann wird es Regeln geben, die er respektieren muß. Dann wird ihm sein Arbeitgeber vielleicht sagen: Meine Freiheit muß noch lang nicht deine Freiheit sein. Meine Freiheit: Ja! Deine Freiheit: Nein! Meine Freiheit wird von der Verfassung garantiert, deine hat bis jetzt nicht interessiert. Meine Freiheit heißt, daß ich Geschäfte machen kann. Und deine Freiheit heißt, du kriegst bei mir einen Posten. Und da du meine Waren kaufen mußt, stell ich dich bei mir an. Dadurch verursacht deine Freiheit keine Kosten. Und es bleibt dabei, daß meine Freiheit immer wieder meine Freiheit ist. Deine Freiheit bleibt meiner einverleibt. Und wenn ich meine Freiheit nicht hab, hast du deine Freiheit nicht. Und meine Freiheit wird dadurch zu deiner Pflicht. Und darum sag ich dir: Verteidig' meine Freiheit mit der Waffe in der Hand und mit der Waffe in den Händen deiner Kinder! Damit von deinen Kindern keines bei der Arbeit je vergißt, was Freiheit ist. Meine Freiheit sei dir immer oberstes Gebot. Meiner Freiheit bleibt treu bis in den Tod. Wenn dir das vielleicht nicht logisch vorkommt, denk an eines bloß: Ohne meine Freiheit bist du arbeitslos. Ja, Freiheit ist was anderes als Zügellosigkeit. Freiheit heißt auch Fleiß, Männlichkeit und Schweiß. Ich werd dir sagen, was ich heutzutag als freiheitlich empfind: Die Dinge so zu lassen wie sie sind. Drum ist in jedem Falle meine Freiheit wichtiger als deine Freiheit je. Meine Freiheit: Yes! Deine Freiheit: Nee! Meine Freiheit ist schon ein paar hundert Jahre alt. Deine Freiheit kommt vielleicht schon bald. Aber vorläufig ist nichts aus deiner Freiheitsambition, du hast noch keine Macht und keine Organisation. Ich wär ja dumm, wenn ich auf meine Freiheit dir zulieb verzicht, drum behalt ich meine Freiheit. Du kriegst deine Freiheit nicht. Noch nicht!
I have a very simple and obvious solution for you: A new “driving” runlevel, that gets enabled at, say, 5 mph, and can only be disabled by slowing down again. Sort of a reverse Speed bomb.;) In that runlevel, the functionality is limited in the same way, when you are inside the engine of a racing game, as opposed to the menu (including the pause menu).
Building on top of that basic concept:
Everything that is displayed, is displayed on the front window, an a specific area with a maximum horizontal and vertical degree (FOV). And every still available control, is limited to special buttons on the steering wheel. Not some generic cursor cross. A special button for every function, or the function does not get integrated. Period. No double or tripe function assignment. No hold, double-tap or shit like that. If this means there would be too many buttons, well tough shit, cause then you have to reduce the functionality! Or make it better. (Recommended is a maximum of one button per finger.)
A nice solution would be, to be able to freely choose the displayed elements and button assignments when you stand. Like the 4096 out of 16.7 million color mapping. A 12 out of 240 action mapping, and a similar display mapping. (Which must automatically enforce free sight by disallowing displayables to be placed in obstructing locations.)
There, is that so hard? This was 5 minutes of medium thinking. Imagine I’d have a month of hard thinking!:)
And that’s far from all. Imagine having a bone-marrow transplant. Now your blood has another DNA than your skin! I remember reading about a person, who had three different types DNA in his body... at the same time!
DNA can be as easily faked as fingerprints. Hell, I could just “accidentially” cut a big politician, while getting his autograph. And then plant that DNA at a murder site. While I myself am completely sealed off in a virus-lab-style overall. A overall that suffices will be below 50 bucks an a special store. And an autograph just is some travel costs. Everybody can do it.
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Precisely. It should be patently obvious to anyone with a functional brain that rocks to do not evolve. If you know what evolution is, and you know what rocks are, you should immediately recognize this.
No, sorry. Not precisely.
Making assumptions of how anything “should” be obvious, is just arrogant and fails precisely at the point I mentioned:
To bring arguments to the table and put them on a solid common basis.
You can’t ever expect someone else to blindly accept your assumptions. Or else there would be no point in using arguments, because one could just blindly state something, and insult the other person because “it’s patently obvious”.
But your comment did exactly that, fails to find common ground. And only attacks with empty “you are wrong, I am right. Because your definition is wrong, and mine is right“ pseudo-arguments.
Sorry, that’s not how this works.
If you notice that someone does not share your oh-so-common assumption, you have to go deeper. Until you find something that you both agree on. (As long as you do not end up at the big bang, there is no excuse! You can also stop arguing altogether, if it’ss not worth the effort. But you can not just stand there as if the other one is an idiot.)
When you have found that common base that you both agree upon, you walk your way up to your original argument, by using only proper logic, that the other person can follow. Maybe having to find more supporting legs for that next step.
Only then can you ever convince anyone to change his mind.
Because the base was something that did fit his own (sense of) reality too. And by following these links of logic, you show how your argument is also linked into *his* reality. Which means that because a human always must assume his own reality is correct (or go crazy/die), it follows that your argument must be correct too.
That is how it works.
And then you still got the emotional part, that still might fight it of for reasons that that person does not even understand itself. (E.g. because of repressed bad associations with it, stemming from previous events.)
Those can be countered by always linking good feelings to your argument. E.g. by positive reinforcement. Or by telling that person how wonderful (and better than now) the world is for them, if they see it that way.
Go on, try it. :)
Exactly what I thought: BULLSHIT of the highest grade.
I was born in ’78, and I communicate preferably with an IM client, via phone or by meeting someone. Just like friends of mine who are 10 years younger, and sometimes 10 years older.
And I already did this in ’96 right when ICQ came out, with many young people of my age. A time when that pseudo-article suggests ICQ users were just about to be born.
Yeah right.
You know what? I’m from ’78, and I use EPIC FAIL, to describe this farticle.
I’m the norm, not the exception. And I got all of Facebook to prove it.
Maybe the author just missed time by some decades, is unable to keep up with the times, yet still assumes he can speak for us all.
Because that is the only point over using any other browser out there.
Firefox is not exactly fast or lightweight, you know. And without extensions it can’t hold a candle to Opera.
If extensions are going to get replaced, it will be by something that is so equal in what it offers, that it most likely still will be called extensions.
If they really kill their reason of existence off, I’ll switch over to Opera in the blink of an eye. The Opera guys never disappointed me, and always were pioneers.
Well, that’s only your lack of imagination.
Imagine a very powerful cell phone. With super-fast bluetooth. (Or wired bus if you prefer that.)
Now imagine a normal screen, keyboard, mouse, and speakers/amplifier. All with bluetooth.
There. If the speed and storage size are good, that’s all you usually need.
Now imagine a dock where you put the phone in, to give it monstrous 3d hardware acceleration capabilities, or something else that needs a faster bus than bt can provide.
Then you got games and professional use covered too.
Finally one or multiple contact-lens displays, glasses, and a gesture glove reduced to some tiny ring or something. (There is something better, but I can’t talk about that right now.)
I don’t see what’s missing there...
No, it doesn’t. If someone spends years and years on a topic, and still has the feeling he understands nothing at all, then clearly, he’s just too dumb for it.
It’s like high voltage without high current. The result is a not very bright and maybe even destroyed lamp.
You could ask the 100,000 “inofficial employees” of the Stasi that.
Or those who, in Nazi times, betrayed their own family members because they hid Jews.
Or actually anyone who “works” at an agency that spies on its own population.
But you’re no better. You insult the other side, and bring no arguments to the table. You’re obviously right... to us... but to them, you now just made it worse, making them protect themselves from your pointless attacks even more.
This time, I’ll do it for you:
The difference is, that Rocks have no fitness function. Which is the difference between undirected change and directed evolution.
But the next time, if you wanna act superior, bring an argument. Like a common basis, and proper logic on top of it.
The huge failure here is, to have this pointless urge, to draw a line between life and death. There is none. It’s a gradient!
Just like there is no separation between intelligent and dumb. Or between alive and dead when you ask if something is a life form.
The wish to draw a line is purely a human artifact.
But if you start to ask: How much alive is something? Or: how much of a life form is something? How intelligent is it?
Then you start get answers that are useful and make sense.
Now all you have to do, is stop thinking in absolutes, and only think of relative answers.
“Less alive than us. Less of a life form and less intelligent too. But more alive, more of a life form and more intelligent, than a stone or a carbohydrate.”
A (bio)mass, fighting for resources.
(If you raise the point, that that would include remote-controlled robots: Well yes, we control them, like limbs. And we live.)
It would be okay if you could be stuffed plugging it into USB whenever you sat down but thats too hard.
That’s too hard?? What kind of lazy ass are you??
*blinks*
It’s still there...
Unbelievable. That is exactly the kind of attitude, that natural selection is there to weed out.
what’s next? “Oh this walking to the toilet is too hard, so I’ll need a catheter. Or else i’m just going to piss myself.”
Un-fuckin-believable. I must save this, put it into a sig. It just blow my mind...
I”ve got a chair for you: http://www.bwass.org/bucket/idiocracy_toilet_chair.jpg
I just found a very old hard disk. Double height. MFM/RLL. And after a “strings -n 32 /dev/hdd”, I got the following old saying, carved in the bytes of the disk:
Computer science
Statistics
Social skills
Choose one.
;)
Thing is: You can only be expert in ONE of them. Period.
I for one, choose CS. Waaayy more interesting, and compared to the nerdiness level of statistics, we look like Joe Sixpack coming to the club in his sports car, with two girls in the back. ;)
If I want to do statistics, I can always hire someone.
..that you’re just too dumb.
Know nothing after year and years? So what’s the point then?
Sorry... I can think of several millions of more efficient, more useful and more fun things to do with my life.
I hear you, about people acting like they are experts, but actually knowing shit. Like someone having read a book about HTML, who now thinks he’s a cool programmer. Or someone who clicks together a default database front-end type application, and acts as if he could compete with someone who designs hard math algorithms in Haskell or writes an OS in C/Assembler.
But I think you put way more importance on statistics, than is needed for programming. Because it’s your lovechild (nothing wrong with that). We programmers need to be good programmers. There’s only so much time in a day, to keep up-to-date with all the crazy stuff going on in CS. There are little non-science jobs where you have to keep up so much. There’s simply no place for also becoming an expert in hardware design, graphics design, usability, physics, all the areas of mathematics, including statistics, etc, etc, etc.
If I need good statistics, I’ll hire you. As soon as you know that you know them. Because there is nothing more valuable, than someone who is in love with his work. Happy? :)
Pff, you need some object. The only thing we need, are our hands. And they even have real skin.
Besides, for some out there, there is always the “truck driver’s cunt” (Thermos filled with ground meat.)
(Not for me though. Ewww.)
Apple Certified Genius Ninjas
One of those words does not fit in there.... Tip: It starts with G. ^^
Then how about you give me your address?
I have a nice 30 feet high ad-frame, featuring my documentary “Home of Goatse”, that I want to place around the entry to your house.
Because if anyone sees an ad next to his house, that does not fly with him, he’s gonna sue. Which means basically everyone who gets that this could mean money. Which in this artificially bad economy means everyone. ;)
...century?
“Hey, how about instead of creating a contact between a tiny plug of a small portable recharger, we create a contact with large mat that takes away space in your home?”
Wow, great idea!
I’ve seen many stupid pointless things in my life, but this one takes the trophy!
If anyone plans to buy this thing, please tell me where you live, so I can come by, and laugh at you. ;)
I’ll bring gifts too: Clippy and MS Bob, a pair of cuff links, a set of ten table overlays, a water-tight sun-dial, and a tricycle with four-wheel drive.
Augmented reality glasses!
Mark my words! :)
Damnit! I wish there were an English version of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeGtUSA73_g
It says just what you said, but in a really great way.
Anyone care to translate it?
Freiheit hat mit Deutschland selbstverständlich was zu tun,
sofern man wirtschaftlich dazu was beiträgt.
Manche müssen unfrei bleiben. Keiner ist immun,
wenn er den Zug versäumt, der ihn dann freiträgt.
Wenn er den Zug nicht sieht und alles komplizieren muß,
tja, dann wird es Regeln geben, die er respektieren muß.
Dann wird ihm sein Arbeitgeber vielleicht sagen:
Meine Freiheit muß noch lang nicht deine Freiheit sein.
Meine Freiheit: Ja! Deine Freiheit: Nein!
Meine Freiheit wird von der Verfassung garantiert,
deine hat bis jetzt nicht interessiert.
Meine Freiheit heißt, daß ich Geschäfte machen kann.
Und deine Freiheit heißt, du kriegst bei mir einen Posten.
Und da du meine Waren kaufen mußt, stell ich dich bei mir an.
Dadurch verursacht deine Freiheit keine Kosten.
Und es bleibt dabei, daß meine Freiheit immer wieder meine Freiheit ist.
Deine Freiheit bleibt meiner einverleibt.
Und wenn ich meine Freiheit nicht hab, hast du deine Freiheit nicht.
Und meine Freiheit wird dadurch zu deiner Pflicht.
Und darum sag ich dir: Verteidig' meine Freiheit mit der Waffe in der Hand
und mit der Waffe in den Händen deiner Kinder!
Damit von deinen Kindern keines bei der Arbeit je vergißt, was Freiheit ist.
Meine Freiheit sei dir immer oberstes Gebot.
Meiner Freiheit bleibt treu bis in den Tod.
Wenn dir das vielleicht nicht logisch vorkommt, denk an eines bloß:
Ohne meine Freiheit bist du arbeitslos.
Ja, Freiheit ist was anderes als Zügellosigkeit.
Freiheit heißt auch Fleiß, Männlichkeit und Schweiß.
Ich werd dir sagen, was ich heutzutag als freiheitlich empfind:
Die Dinge so zu lassen wie sie sind.
Drum ist in jedem Falle meine Freiheit wichtiger als deine Freiheit je.
Meine Freiheit: Yes! Deine Freiheit: Nee!
Meine Freiheit ist schon ein paar hundert Jahre alt.
Deine Freiheit kommt vielleicht schon bald.
Aber vorläufig ist nichts aus deiner Freiheitsambition,
du hast noch keine Macht und keine Organisation.
Ich wär ja dumm, wenn ich auf meine Freiheit dir zulieb verzicht,
drum behalt ich meine Freiheit. Du kriegst deine Freiheit nicht. Noch nicht!
Sorry, I meant “accidentially cut by the sheet of paper you hand him”.
But you are right, there are easier ways. It was just what I came up with first. :)
I have a very simple and obvious solution for you: ;)
A new “driving” runlevel, that gets enabled at, say, 5 mph, and can only be disabled by slowing down again. Sort of a reverse Speed bomb.
In that runlevel, the functionality is limited in the same way, when you are inside the engine of a racing game, as opposed to the menu (including the pause menu).
Building on top of that basic concept:
Everything that is displayed, is displayed on the front window, an a specific area with a maximum horizontal and vertical degree (FOV). And every still available control, is limited to special buttons on the steering wheel. Not some generic cursor cross. A special button for every function, or the function does not get integrated. Period. No double or tripe function assignment. No hold, double-tap or shit like that. If this means there would be too many buttons, well tough shit, cause then you have to reduce the functionality! Or make it better. (Recommended is a maximum of one button per finger.)
A nice solution would be, to be able to freely choose the displayed elements and button assignments when you stand. Like the 4096 out of 16.7 million color mapping. A 12 out of 240 action mapping, and a similar display mapping. (Which must automatically enforce free sight by disallowing displayables to be placed in obstructing locations.)
There, is that so hard? :)
This was 5 minutes of medium thinking.
Imagine I’d have a month of hard thinking!
Helo. Iz in yr hwy, killin yr doods. KTHXB...[connection lost]
And that’s far from all. Imagine having a bone-marrow transplant. Now your blood has another DNA than your skin!
I remember reading about a person, who had three different types DNA in his body... at the same time!
DNA can be as easily faked as fingerprints. Hell, I could just “accidentially” cut a big politician, while getting his autograph. And then plant that DNA at a murder site. While I myself am completely sealed off in a virus-lab-style overall.
A overall that suffices will be below 50 bucks an a special store. And an autograph just is some travel costs. Everybody can do it.
No it doesn’t, damnit!
That was some years ago, before OpenGL 3.0 and GLSL were out!
That argument is long dead. Which does not seem to stop the parrots...