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  1. Re:Cybercomm on Unix Shell Accounts? · · Score: 1

    30 days unlimited/interactive usage

    I hate marketing drivel like this. Either offer unlimited downloads, or give it a hard cap that everyone can see. I'm tired of these stupid ambiguities that make it sound as though you can use as much as their service as you want. I wonder what their marketing department says when you download a half-dozen cd images in a weekend? These fuckwits don't deserve anyone's business.


    Do me, do yourself and everyone here a favor. Read the paragraph you just wrote. Has it ever occured to you that you might be taking yourself just a leeeetle too seriously? Really, the situation is not as grave as you portray it. Now take a deep breath. In through the nose, out through the mouth. Now, repeat after me "They are just an ISP"..."They are just an ISP"...GOOD!

    I agree, it is just some marketing drivel there, but all I did was copy and paste a table from their website so I could save myself some typing. I could see where you might think that I was the one making those claims, but this is not the case.

    And as for their marketing department - they ain't got one! At least, not when I was their customer.They were just four dudes who knew Red Hat so well it looked as if they wrote the distro themselves. Obviously, marketing ain't their forte! ;)

  2. Cybercomm on Unix Shell Accounts? · · Score: 2, Informative
    My old ISP from the Jersey, called Cybercomm was a great dial-up providor back before the hey-day of broadband. They were recently swallowed up by Telurian Networks so that under the Cybercomm moniker they can offer broadband services.

    On their website, they still appear to be offering their old services which include

    30 days unlimited/interactive usage

    10 MB Web Space for your personal webpage(s).

    1 Internet Email Address

    Full UNIX Shell Included

    Listing in our Users directory

    The Best Technical Support in The Business

    Well that last line about their tech department is of a bit of sales hyperboly. But I do remember their being fairly good.

    Of course you wont want to dial up to their network, but I've never had any trouble at all accessing the Unix Shell account they give you.

    You get all that for a low low low $20 'merican dollars per month or for $200 a year in one lumpy sum.

    Also interesting is that they appear to still have their Muds section open (as of a couple of months ago)and are STILL operating a BBS that you can chat with local yokal Jerseyans. Not that you'd want to do either of the latter, but it is still interesting to find that stuff still around!

  3. NYC on The Traveling Salesman Problem Meets Starbucks · · Score: 1

    His personal quest is to visit every company-owned Starbucks and he's not doing too badly. After 7 years he's hit over 4,000 locations in the United States and 167 in Britain and Japan.

    Taking on Manhattan alone in this challenge is simply too mind numbing for me to conceptualize. It seems like all the dope dens that open in NYC on a weekly basis can't even REMOTELY compete with Starbucks.

    Why, at Astor Place alone one can almost LITERALLY stand in front of one starbucks, and shout across the square and above the din of the traffic to your friend at the OTHER STARBUCKS can will you!

    Slightly hyperbolous. But ONLY by a might!

  4. Re:argumentum ad verecundiam on On Afghanistan's Thomas Edison · · Score: 1

    Having done a little digging on my own (google can be your friend, but a dictionary can be even better) it appears that "some guy on slashdot" got it right, while the various dictionaries you quote in fact copied not only each other's mistakes, but the mistakes as they have propogated into common parlence. As to the 'chicken-or-egg' question of whether the misuse first began among the semi-literate masses, or was spoon-fed to them by the semi-literate media and/or erroneous reference compendia, can only be left to speculation.

    huh. who knew I'd spark all this debate with an off-hand comment? interesting and amazing.

    As much as I appreciate Google as the wonderful tool that it indeed is, I can't afford to think of it as the "be all end all" repository of human knowledge. It maybe the closest thing to the Library of Alexandria we have in modern civilzation. Seemingly more than most, but at that not even close to a "deep web" search engine because that problem as yet hasn't been adequately formulated yet. Tim Berners Lee and crew as well as a great many others are, no doubt, hard at work on the case.

    But until the semantic web (or some alternative approach) emerges and is accepted and becomes a reality for most, all that even the best search engines are currently capable of doing is skimming over roughly the top 5% of the entire sum of knowledge and information on the web. It's the same problem that Dr. Bush addressed in his famous paper but on a much grander scale than perhaps even he could imagine.

    From serendipit-e:

    Firstly, it's worth remembering that Google only indexes a third of the web's nine billion pages. That it does so as comprehensively, if not more so, than anyone else, isn't at issue. Information costs money, and this has taken the sheen off the 'Internet' as it was once sold to us. The most valuable collections limit their access, for very good economic reasons: they can't afford not to.

    The best collections are Web-accessible, after a fashion. For example, San Francisco Library's public collections are one of the Web's treasures - and accessible to any visitor who takes time to pick up a Library card - but beyond the crawlers. They represent the tip of the iceberg of the Internet that Google can't see - but that the rest of us can enjoy.

    However this brain drain, this emptying of the commons simply isn't what we were promised ten years ago, when the Internet was first sold to the public as, amongst other things, an almost infinite source of information. Ten years on, the reality hasn't lived up to the promise, and as Net Time co-founder Geert Lovink pointed out in a panel on Saturday, and as we've noted too, Internet usage in the West is stalling. The public is not stupid, and is now reaching for the off switch.

    While it isn't exactly fair to blame Google for this. Google has succeeded in becoming the branding for the Great Internet Project. But obviously, it can't be responsible for the content, which leaves us all somewhat underwhelming. But the corporation continues to highlight the metaphysical properties of its technology with some absurd claims, and at the very least, encourages commentators to describe its collection as something it isn't.


    I can definetly appreciate the value of having multiple sources for your information. But as far as I'm aware, only the OED is the accepted standard for defining both current and historical usage of any word or term. The OED does not seek to impose their views on anyone, the approach I appreciate the most. They merely preserve past meanings based upon historical documents and glean neologisms emerging from popular useage. C

  5. FSI and some other suggestions on Foreign Language Learning Software for Arabic? · · Score: 1

    Not entirely certain on software, but as far as books go The Arabic Alphabet by Awde and Samano got me reading and writing in a jiff! An excellent resource is Audio Forum who sell the kits that the Foreign Service Institute (FSI) uses to train its diplomats. I believe Saudi Arabic is one of the few courses that the FSI has released the material on CD-Rom. Other dialects, such as Iraqi and Palestinian (to name a couple) are also available. But Saudi, far as I know is almost the lingua franca of the middle-east. Could be off base on that point though. But the FSI courses (whether on prehisoric blech *tape* or CDs) have proven extremely useful. Pricey, in some cases. But thorough and useful. Some folks have spoken highly of Transparent Language, at the very least you might find some web links there. The Center for Applied Linguistics might also be of help to you. The The Pimsleur Method is pretty smokin' IMO. Flash cards are EXTREMELY useful to have/make yourse'f - well nigh indespensible in learning the written form of the language IMO. And finally, there are some I've known who've praised the "Talk Now!" approach.

  6. An NYC possible solution on DirecTV in an Apartment? · · Score: 1

    A buddy of mine who works in the video dept. is a serious DirecTV advocate. I didn't previously think that DirecTV was available in NYC due to the height of most buildings (but that really depends on which neighborhood you're in).

    Well, this guy didn't have permission from his landlord. He just figured that he would install now, pay later for damages if he gets hassled apologize etc and move if things got too hot. He's an easy going stoner type but majorly stauch about his entertainment resources. what stoner isn't?

    So he just tromped up to his roof whistling zippity doo-dah or some shit and glommed the thing into place. He lives close enough to his roof that he didn't need signal repeaters. Borrowed some equipment from work, found the satellite and *BANG* he was on!

    I can ask him tomorrow how he did manage to work out the installation, what equipment he borrowed, and any possible damage, if you the submitter sees this and thinks it might be a help. Whether or not this works for you would depend on what kind of building you're in, city, neighborhood, rapport with the owner, etc.

  7. Re:He's a Wardak, alright. on On Afghanistan's Thomas Edison · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or just call any IP-benevolent inventor a "Wardak" ...

    I suppose that would depend on whose idea of intellectual property rights you are talking about. I think I know where the lions share of dotters stand.

    A little disturbing that a google on the term will put WIPO right there at the top so you can't miss it!

    Interesting, I couldn't get to the WIPO page by clicking that link. Maybe a piering issue on my end or perhaps they've been DDoSed. Not that I would eeeeeevvver suggest that doing so would be a fantabulous idea!

  8. Yet another reason... on Fetuses Provide Stem-Like Cells to Mothers · · Score: 1

    President Bush has sharply restricted federal funding for research on human embryonic stem cells to keep the government from supporting research that he believes destroys human life.

    Yet another reason, far as I'm concerned, to get that bum out of office!

  9. Applications for Tinnitus? on Fetuses Provide Stem-Like Cells to Mothers · · Score: 1

    It would be fantastic to conduct a stufy of women who had tinnitus before getting pregnant (once, twice or perhaps more) and any correlation between getting pregnant and any possible lessening of the level of ringing in her ears. Or perhaps one where an audiologist at least tests hearing acuity before/after/between getting pregnant

    Tinnitus is truly an unmet medical need. I'm sure that many of us who suffer with trauma to the inner ear wonder what stem-cell research portends for us. In the meantime the American Tinnitus Association is a good clearing house for Tinnitus information. Including lists of physicians who are knowledgeable in this area.

    Currently the only model for alleviation (besides experiments in "masking" the sound and electrical stimulation of the eardrum) is the Jasterboff Model of retaining the sufferer with a means of "tuning the brain out" from noticing the "sound". I've not tried it yet, but I'm told it's met with considerable success for some patients.

    It's unfortunate that the most you'll get from a great many audiologists and ENTs is "Sorry, I can't help you". Googling around, you'll find a number of boards where people talk about their condition, possible cures and provide support for one another.

  10. KHAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!! KHAAAAAAANNNN!!! on Ghenghis Khan Descendants Eat For Free · · Score: 3, Funny

    He tasks me! He tasks me! And I shall have him. I'll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares malestrom and round perdition's flames if he eats just one more of my french fries!

    Would that be sufficient proof for a free meal?

  11. Re:MacOS classic? on Akamai: How They Fought Recent DDoS Attacks · · Score: 1

    Augh! CDEV was not a virus, it was another name for those startup things... Oh well, I guess it is kind of hard to keep arcane jargon straight. :)

    In MacSpeak CDEV is also known as a "control panel" and init is an extension. Those are the little icons that marched across your screen when you were booting up.

    By the way, very interesting comments all. Does anyone care to clue me in as to why my original post on this topic was modded completely down? Must admit to being a little clueless on that one. Might be a dumb question ,but I had to ask.

  12. TiVO not a PC? on TiVo vs. Windows Media Center Edition · · Score: 1

    Of course, some tout the flexibility of PC-based DVRs

    To my understanding all the TiVO _is_ is a stand alone PC running some strain of Linux (which can be networked with a bit of effort). Later models than mine (or so I have it) already have networking built in.

  13. MacOS classic? on Akamai: How They Fought Recent DDoS Attacks · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I've often wondered how a Mac running Classic on a beefy box as a server would stand up to an attemp to h4x0r it. To really get at it, seems to me you would have to get to the base underpinnings of the OS on some level. Which are arcane and hard to master, even (I'm told) to seasoned Mac programmers.

    Not that I'm implying that it would be invulnerable to some attacks (like DDOS) but surely it seems that many of your other bases would be covered.

  14. Missing the point. on Endangered Countries On The Internet · · Score: 1

    'What kind of Nigerian? Yoruba or Ibo?'

    What kind of Mexican? Yucatan or Veracruz? What kind of American? Florida or Alaskan? As you said, you couldn't really make that distinction.

    I really didn't think this point would be easy to miss, but aparently for some people it was. America is a continent comprising north and south. Are you a NORTH American or a SOUTH American? I think it's okay to refer to countries as countries but not to refer to CONTINENTS as countries. To me that's just fucking stupid. For instance it really pisses Canadians off that citizens of the USA go around say that they are "Americans". And what are the Canadians? Chopped liver?

    Just as it pisses me the fuck off when people speak of all Native Americans as if they were just "Indians"

    Native Americans never had a "country" in the modern sense of the term. Now they just have Casinos! But you make an excellent point here, now that I've had more of a chance to think about it.

    Are you pissed off when people speak of Europeans? Are you pissed off when people speak of Americans (which has Native Americans as a subset)?

    No that doesn't annoy me. But it really annoys South Americans that we US citizens think of ourselves as "Americans" just like it pisses off the Canadians. I don't get as annoyed when Europeans refer to themselves as "Europeans" or when a citizen of Tanzania refers to him/herself as an "African". But if you ask which COUNTRY they come from, and they tell you a continent instead of a nation...well that's just fucking retarded.

    I don't give a damn about the fine details of Nigeria. It has no effect on my life, and I'm not going to sit down and study each of the thousands of cultures this world has to offer.

    Look. I'm not saying that "everyone has to become an Anthropologist"! But when people start confusing countries with continents thats just geographical illiteracy and start lumping people together that don't even remotely belong in the same group I find that irksome.

  15. Africa's a Country? on Endangered Countries On The Internet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'Pay close attention to shipping or contact addresses located in countries with a high reported incidence of online fraud and many e-commerce web sites have found a high incidents of on-line fraud as well, such as Africa...'

    News to me. I always thought of Africa as more a continent with a rich and diverse assortment of tapestries of culture. With great cultural variances within groups of cultures and subgroups within those groups and so on...

    This is pretty much the same for all indigenous peoples from all continents across the globe. The only reason we can think of the United States as having a sort of unified culture is because at critical junctures of forming our own identity as a people we had devised means of communication and transportation This is the reason that whether you go to Ann Arbor Michigan, Toms River NJ, Seattle, Southern California, Denver, (you name it) a suburb is a suburb is a suburb. All this had been done after we had already colonized this continent, which until then previously had previously as diverse a population of greatly differing cultures as any indigenous area of the globe.

    I remember going to Lollapolooza (lots o' poor losers) back in 93. Someone had a table setup with a sign above it reading "African Food"....'Hmm..wonder what that tastes like'. So, I wander over there and ask her what kind of 'African' food they meant. It was loud so she kind of shouted back at me...'IT'S...AFRICAN...FOOOD!'...(as if I couldn't read the big bold letters above her). 'Ah! I see! What KIND of African?'...'Nigerian'...'What kind of Nigerian? Yoruba or Ibo?' Which I later found out is more popularly known as Igbo. But you could have properly referred to the plate in front of me as either.

    This question really kind of floored her. And it shouldn't have. It really kind of annoys me when greatly divergent groups of people get lumped together like that. Just as it pisses me the fuck off when people speak of all Native Americans as if they were just "Indians" (as if there were quite literally no difference between a Lakota, a Navajo, a Lenape, a Choctaw, Oglala, Onendaga and and what have you)...it really pisses me off when people start speaking of Africa as if it were a "country". It's NOT!

  16. Re:key word "control" on China Deploys IPv9 Network · · Score: 1

    You should really check out the book "1421: The Year China Discovered the World". It's absolutely fascinating, and is written by a retired British naval officer. Quite a good read.

    http://www.1421.tv/

    Oh, and they're having a PBS special in the US on July 21st about this book.


    Excellent advice, sir! I thank you for that! It will go on my reading list.

  17. Re:key word "control" on China Deploys IPv9 Network · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I remember that the *"People of Han" (as they called themselves) who founded the original Chin Dynasty considered themselves the center of the universe. So naturally, they too considered themselves the center of all culture and refinement. I see modern communism as a more contemporary expression of this belief. It seems almost bred into their cultural psychology. A very deep meme that is very difficult to erase." So.....nothing like the modern-day USA then ?

    No, you're absolutely right. American's do think that they're the center of the universe. I know because I am one. I'm a Jerseyite, I live very near Princeton which had beautiful minds and where Einstein's Unified Field Theory was first concocted. Plains, trains, automobiles, computers, networks all invented her in the good ol' rockin' US of friggin' A!

    We are jingoisitic and think we are the center of the universe. But compare our piddling few hundred odd years to China's 7000 years or more!

    But if you trace American culture, we basically go back to ye olde England to about the time of Cromwell or slightly before (history is not my forte). Until the late 1800s, most of American Society (around 70% I believe) was English/Irish in descent. After the turn of that century American Society was essentially re-made with an influx of new immigrants from the rest of Europe, including Germany, Poland, and Italy (for example). It was a time when our culture was "unravelling" (according to Strauss and Howe) in a period that was not unlike the what the past 20 years of American Society has been like. Scarily, eerily similar. No, no OJ's getting chased by police in White Ford Broncos down the 405, no Monica Lewinsky, no Punk Rock. But just like today, America was being thought anew to include all of the new cultures that were calling america home. It was also being shaken to it's foundations by spasmodic bursts of new technological developments like Movies, Telephones, the Automobile, and Flight. It was also a time when we first heard the beginnings of a dirty and dissident form of music known as...brace yourself...JAZZ!!!!!! *GASP*. I know hard to imagine, but Jazz was really regarded just that way by prominent members of our society instead of the rich subtle tapestry of powerful creative expression that it is.

    So, what's been happening for the past 20 years? Well, computers have been around for a long while, but I really don't think the couch potatoes started buying them until they became of the internet at about the same time. We had dirty dissident punk and instrial, and indie rock and underground cinema. And the immigration is ENORMOUS and will definitely chage the way America thinks of itself. Latin American immigration is simply jaw-dropping. In the town I used to live in, almost everyone there is mono-lingual. And it ain't english! Whether your in a "latin neighborhood" or no, Spanish is on all the ATMs and an option for nearly all phone support calls. I think Spanish should be a high school requirement! Asian immigration is completely boundless as well. Up in Fort Lee NJ (right by the GW bridge) almost all of the street signs and business are in both Korean and English...or in just Korean. Including some street signs!

    So a *DEFINITE* on my to-do list is to bone up on Spanish and to give Korean a serious go. While wer'e at it, why stop there? I'd also like to get to speaking

  18. Re:key word "control" on China Deploys IPv9 Network · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A standard is what the majority of people use. Not what they want to use. Or what they should be using. Or what some foreign institution has taken it up to themselves to declare. Or whatever power abusing government or mega-corporation enforces. As such China's protocols are the standards, as far as they are concerned.

    I remember taking a Chinese history course back in college. It was a requirement, and Eastern Studies had never really gripped my interests. But as we started it I became fascinated with the oceanic depth of their culture and history. I'm sorry I never persued it.

    I remember that the *"People of Han" (as they called themselves) who founded the original Chin Dynasty considered themselves the center of the universe. So naturally, they too considered themselves the center of all culture and refinement. I see modern communism as a more contemporary expression of this belief. It seems almost bred into their cultural psychology. A very deep meme that is very difficult to erase.

    So, while control may or may not have anything to do with the nature of IPv9, my interpretation of the matter (after taking that class) is that they are a very prideful people. It must irk them on some level that all of the important technologies (cars, computers, networking, flying, you name it) come from the west. Maybe this is their way of reasserting themselves as a force to be reckoned with. Which they are.


    *Interestingly enough, they were so sure of their superiority that when they had their first runins with westerners they would make them cow-tow to the emperor. Which REALLY pissed off the European Nobles when they came to visit because cow-towing is literally debasing oneself in front of imperial greatness. Getting down on both knees and bowing repeatedly. The Chinese of that day (I forget what Dynasty it was) considered ALL westerners to be barbarians! I don't necessarily think they were wrong about that, after what I've learned about history.

    The name "Han" actually meant in their language "The People" just as it does in almost all languages. It's the same in Navajo (Dine) and Cherokee (Tsalagee). Interestingly enough, when the Cherokee first encountered westerners THEY thought they were the most civilized people. They thought the Europeans were babrarous. Mainly because the English and other European languages have the 'b' and 'r' sound which sounded awful to them. It may seem odd that the Cherokees would have no 'r' sound. The reason for that is that the language of the main body of Cherokee speakers don't have those sounds and call themselves Tsalagee. Europeans totally misheard that sound and started calling them Cherokees.

  19. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. on Use an iPod Mini to Broadcast Pirate Radio · · Score: 1

    this marks you out as more of a moran then the average SUV driver

    Only someone with an IQ of under 25 would misspell that word. ;D By the way, I did think of that smart guy, but since most radio stations are blaring commercials much of the time, I would take it as read that any reasonably bright fellow, which you are DEFINATELY not as I am DEFINATELY a moron, should be able to parse from my humble prose. ;p

  20. From the no-shit-sherlock dept. on Use an iPod Mini to Broadcast Pirate Radio · · Score: 1

    Hey, I know! Let's find motorists with sociopathic tendencies and piss 'em off! What could possibly go worng?

    Sociopathic, and antisocial, but most likely moronic as well. 9 times out of 10. These are cases...like the Hummer blaring "Methodman" at jaw shattering levels...that might better suit the use of a silent 10 minute track that loops to be even safer, rather than "baring the same shit back at 'em". As a tinnitus sufferer, I couldn't do this anyway.

    So for the moron in the SUV listening to to rap, they will most likely be stupified by the silence. Of course, if he changes channels, your shit out of luck, until you again find the one he's on again (if you have time and the chance, like following someone who is unawares).

    Like I said, 9 times out of 10 they would likely be stupified were you successfull in your chicanery. What about the 10th time? Probably good to have a black belt or not risk the other 9 times. After all, without risk, is anyone EVER truly satisfied? Clever hack or no, this is a good empowerment to have in your personal aresenal.

  21. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... on Use an iPod Mini to Broadcast Pirate Radio · · Score: 2, Funny

    "So, how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads?"

    "Come visit the DFW, Texas area. That's exactly what's on the radio, all the time."


    As you say, this is Texas. <shrugs shoulders>

  22. Linux vs. Windows: What's The BIGBIGBIGDifference? on Linux vs. Windows: What's The Difference? · · Score: 1

    IMHO, armed with a knowledge of programming and a good (or bad) Linux distro you can mold it ultimately to your desires as a potter molds clay. Without said knowledge of programming, the difference can be superior speed of Linux and the slight incompatibility between OOo and Ximian and MS apps. But there are easy workaround to those. It's the cathedral vs. the bazzar.

  23. typo title on Cassini-Huygens Reaches Orbit Around Saturn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The NAME, I say I say the NAME, son is Christiaan Huygens. Associate of the Protestant Defender and natural philosopher.

  24. 9/11 disaster on Mobile Cell Phone Towers For Disaster Relief · · Score: 1

    Verizon already uses a larger version of the system known as a Cell On Wheels (or COW; gotta love these acronyms), but as it takes three trucks and the better part of a day to deploy, nimbleness of response has apparently been an issue."

    I can still remeber that awful day like it was yesterday. I'm sure anyone in the new york area can, unfortunately. I was going into work late that day. The first thing I did when I realized what was going on was to call my boss to see how everyone at the company was doing. But I found it very interesting that after the first tower fell, I still had spotty cell coverage. This was before the second tower fell. After the second tower fell, cell coverage went out for everyone in the new york area. Coverage still hasn't returned to where it was before the towers fell in my town. I could see the smoke from "ground zero" from my apartment for a long, long time afterward. A very weird, very sad, very unfortunate time to remember. But I found this fact interesting from a technical standpoint. Especially how cell coverage never quite went back to where it was beforehand.

  25. Sorry for the polemic on School Teaches 'Ethical Hacking' · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    10 out of 10 Terrorists agree - Anybody but Bush in 2004

    Sorry, couldn't let that one go past.

    The terrorists are very likely to want Bush in the Oval Office. House of Bush, House of Saud details the business relationships between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family, as well as the ruling Saudi family. Bush's military record was enough to label him a "deserter" by Michael Moore. To whit, the White House released a censored version of Bush's military record. What was censored? Curiously, it was one name: that of James R. Bath. We know this because copies of the GW Bush Military record from 2000 still show his name. It was censored post 9/11 due to the fact that James Bath was a buddy of GW's from the military. After the military, Bath went into the Aviation business and his first business deal was to sell an airplane to Osama's brother. This is all a matter of public record. Since the early 70s, the Bin Laden's (second wealthiest family in Saudi Arabia) continued to funnel money to Bath, who in turn funded several failed oil business of GW's. GW was great at drilling empty wholes that didn't provide any oil. When GHW Bush (first president Bush) was in Office the Carlyle group invested a TON of money into what would turn out to be ANOTHER failed oil business captained by Baby Bush. Several Bin Ladens sat on the board of Carlyle. Since then, Saudi oil money has funneled roughly 1.5 BILLION dollars per year to Bush, their family and friends. If you're being paid $400,000 dollars a year to server the American people and another group is paying you $1.5 billion (with a "b") per year, whose interests do you think you would represent?

    The only problem is that Saudi has a public face and a private face. The Prince is the public face, and his brother is the minister of the interior who fosters the furtherance of their wahabist culture. They (the Wahabis) run the schools and religious instruction of the youth in that country. As early as 3rd or 4th grade, children's textbooks start to refer to America and the West as "The Great Satan". The Princes' brother is funneling money to those people that run the schools.

    In the time since Iraq had been invaded AL Qaeda has grown in size, power and organization. America's military structure is still geared towards a cold war way of thinking. Al Qaeda has been able to morph into a true Information Age culture, using the web, cellphones and other technologies to conduct their horrors. The real focus of the "War on Terror" needs to be on Afganistan and the Wahabi's in Saudi. While we have few qualms invading Afganistan, there is simply NO WAY a Texas Oil Man who sits on the throne America Tis going to jeapordize America's relationshiop with the Saudi's. Whose total investments per year represent roughly 7% of the total American economy. No way. The war in Iraq is nothing more than a distraction on what SHOULD be the war on terror. Don't fool yourself.