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Use an iPod Mini to Broadcast Pirate Radio

StJefferson writes "Ever want to silence the urban assault vehicle beside you at the stop light, pounding out gangster angst at orthodontia-rattling volumes? Now you can, and here's how, courtesy Engadget."

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  1. From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Hey, I know! Let's find motorists with sociopathic tendencies and piss 'em off! What could possibly go worng?

    This isn't even a clever hack. 'Take your iPod antenna and put an even bigger antenna on it! Then--get this--find somebody listening to a radio and use your iPod to broadcast on the same station that radio is tuned to! Pwn3d! OMGWTFBBQ!'

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    1. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      CHICKENWAFFLESNUGGETS

    2. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Jbrecken · · Score: 5, Funny
      Then--get this--find somebody listening to a radio and use your iPod to broadcast on the same station that radio is tuned to!
      It's just like Mr. Microphone!
      "Hey Good Looking! We'll be back to pick you up later!"
    3. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by strictnein · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah... don't quite get the excitement over this one. This type of thing has been done for quite some time. There's much much better hardware available for this type of tomfoolery. Although I guess now that it's with a iPod it makes it newsworthy.

    4. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damn! And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Jbreckens!

    5. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It would be much cooler if you could just broadcast 100000 dB square waves at 30, 100, 500, 1200, 1600, 1800, 5000, 10000 and 15000 Hz. Keep it in alternating random cycles of .25 seconds each tone. That should do some kind of damage to the oaf's booming stereo. So you like Mudvayne, huh??? TAKE THIS!!! KERPLOW!!!

    6. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by falzer · · Score: 3, Funny

      > What could possibly go worng?

      Er, possibly... go wrong. Heh, that's the first thing that's ever gone wrong.

    7. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hey, I know! Let's find motorists with sociopathic tendencies and piss 'em off! What could possibly go worng?

      You're not kidding.

      I live on a street where these assholes like to drive up and down while bassing. Well, one day, I got really pissed. I'm trying to work in my den on a project and the constant noise just won't stop.

      So finally I follow one of these guys to see where he ended up. I honked my horn rythmically as I drove by.

      Next thing I know the guy is chasing me around trying to run me off the road. I called 911 and get, I not am sh1tting you "we're really busy right now" and I'm asked to call another number where I'm put on hold listening to how my city has this great new newsletter. "Please download Adobe Acrobat Reader to view the newsletter".

      Finally someone comes back on and tells me I might as well drive to the police station. Hey, great idea. Lots of police there. Well, that doesn't stop him.

      I sit in the police parking lot for 30 minutes while this guy tells me how I'd better not do that again or I'll be sorry. He is insane.

      Oh, the FIRST time I followed someone, they took me into da'hood where I drove through what looked like a riot and was almost hit by a driver fleeing police. You'd think I would have learned the first time.

      The really depressing thing is realizing that I'm essentially powerless. People can be a55holes and threaten your life and you can't do anything. Why? Because I have to follow the law while they have nothing to lose.

      I later went back to look at the laws in my state governing self-defense. They are totally impractical. The legal system is set up in such a way that you really have to let the animals control the streets.

    8. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by ThePDW · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great, another excuse for some frat jock or homie to beat up a nerd!

    9. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by JonTurner · · Score: 1

      Agreed. A directional Pain Field Generator is a more appropriate device.

    10. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by daveashcroft · · Score: 4, Funny

      With 100000 dB we are talking local earthquakes! Hehehe, dont try this at home around fault-lines kids! ;-)

    11. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Shinglor · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Hey Good Looking! We'll be back to pick you up later!"

      Homer: Oh, he's in for some lovin'!

    12. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

      Vote Constitution or Libertarian. Granted, not an overnight solution. In the meantime, exercise your 2nd Amemendment rights, get a CCW.

    13. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I later went back to look at the laws in my state governing self-defense. They are totally impractical. The legal system is set up in such a way that you really have to let the animals control the streets.

      That really is wonderful. Then the judge or the police say useful things like, "well you shouldn't take the law into your own hands" or "don't bother them and they won't bother you" and the ever popular "just ignore them."

      Small wonder there's so much gun violence in this country. We can't stand each other. Sadly, probably everyone knows of at least one annoying jerk.

      There are laws concerning noise pollution, which fall under disturbing the peace, but try to get anyone to actually enforce them when police spend half their calls on domestic violence.

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    14. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Hah hah. You know what's the BEST? When squares try and yell at you to turn down your stereo, but it's not really even up, so you like, turn it up even more and enjoy the look on their face as they figure ou they can't do shit. Woo.

    15. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The really depressing thing is realizing that I'm essentially powerless. People can be a55holes and threaten your life and you can't do anything. Why? Because I have to follow the law while they have nothing to lose.

      Welcome to city life. My friends in the burbs think I'm nuts, but this sort of thing goes on constantly.

      I had one guy try to run me off the road because I wouldn't jump a red light because HE wanted to jump the light and he was behind me. Oh the horror of having to wait behind a guy who obeys a red light! As he kept following I got a good look at him and decided that it was definitely within the realm of possibility of kicking the ever loving shit out of his scrawny ass.. until he stopped right beside me and started reaching under the seat.

      I did not stick around, lets just say that. I can also tell you I'm investigating the newly passed concealed carry law in my state. I'm ex-military, which in and of itself doesn't mean much except for the following: I know myself and my limitations pretty well. If somebody throws down on me I can put three rounds center mass and not shed a tear.

      Sad but true.

    16. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What I don't get is that someone actually thinks a Basshole is actually listening to the radio. Really. If you have such incredible musical taste that you feel duty-bound to share it with others, by force even, are you really gonna let your selections blow in the whims of the FM dial?

      Any Basshole who thinks he's worth his boom tubes who gets snarked by some yuk with an FM-broadcasting iPod deserves what he gets.

    17. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by CoyoteGuy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So finally I follow one of these guys to see where he ended up. I honked my horn rythmically as I drove by.

      Next thing I know the guy is chasing me around trying to run me off the road. I called 911 and get, I not am sh1tting you "we're really busy right now" and I'm asked to call another number where I'm put on hold listening to how my city has this great new newsletter. "Please download Adobe Acrobat Reader to view the newsletter".


      You're a freaking genius.

      What did you expect? If you were following me around, honking your horn. I'd corner you into a sidestreet and beat the crap out of you...

      --
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    18. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      so... let me get this straight...

      You pick a fight with a badass, then, when he takes you up on it, you realize, "Oh my god! I forgot! I'm a big fucking pussy!"

      What are you going to tell the police? "I provoked this asshole, now he wants to fight."

      Police arrest you both for fighting or just wasting their time.

      Ignore annoying people-- or run the hell away from them-- do not poke them with sharp sticks.

      Or, you know, maybe call the cops with a noise complaint.

      Chill out with this self defense crap, Travis. The guy was not threatening you-- he was annoying you. Then you decide to *follow* him and act all crazy honking your horn and shit. What do you expect him to think? What do you expect him to do?

      If that guy who chased you to the police station *had* gotten his hands on you, there's no way in hell you'd win with self-defense, even *if* your candy-ass won the fight. Because *you* started the fight. *You* got out of your house and followed a complete stranger to his house (is that legal?-- stalking?). *You* started acting crazy toward him with your horn-honking. *You* were a willing participant in whatever shit was going to go down next-- just because you hadn't thought it through doesn't mean you weren't.

      Read this page.

    19. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be much cooler if you could just broadcast 100000 dB square waves at 30, 100, 500, 1200, 1600, 1800, 5000, 10000 and 15000 Hz. Keep it in alternating random cycles of .25 seconds each tone. That should do some kind of damage to the oaf's booming stereo. So you like Mudvayne, huh???

      Hmmm... interesting. I thought MuDwAyNe music is perfectly capable of destroying boomig stereo all by itself.

      Anonymous Cowards Unite

    20. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Macadamizer · · Score: 3, Informative

      "If that guy who chased you to the police station *had* gotten his hands on you, there's no way in hell you'd win with self-defense, even *if* your candy-ass won the fight. Because *you* started the fight. *You* got out of your house and followed a complete stranger to his house (is that legal?-- stalking?). *You* started acting crazy toward him with your horn-honking. *You* were a willing participant in whatever shit was going to go down next-- just because you hadn't thought it through doesn't mean you weren't."

      Just one point -- mere words -- even honking your horn or flipping someone off -- is inadequate "provocation" to nullify a self-defense argument.

      Now, if you were to pull a knife or gun on someone, well, then you lose the right to sell defense. But words -- no matter how annoying or offensive -- are NEVER sufficient provocation for one to lose their right to self-defense.

      Now, I agree that someone who does this sort fo thing probably deserves to get thier ass beat, and would likely get throw in jail because the cops don't want to have to sort this sorta thing out, but if you ended up in court, you could still prevail on self-defense unless you did more than yell and scream and annoy the other guy.

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    21. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny
      The really depressing thing is realizing that I'm essentially powerless.

      Yeah, it's getting so you can't even follow around gangsters in your car honking angrily at them without them chasing you back anymore.

    22. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since decibels are a logarithmic unit of measurement, it's more like "we are talking desruction of the universe". ...and people think Apple is better.

      "Honey, Jimmy destroyed the universe again."
      "That's it! I'm writing that Steve Jobs a nasty letter!"

      --
      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    23. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's getting so you can't even follow around gangsters in your car honking angrily at them without them chasing you back anymore.

      Ok. So what do you recommend? I'm looking for a solution.

      Again, it seems that I really have no options. People like this thug do what they do because they are more aggressive and willing to go to jail if they have to and I have too much to lose.

      So, what do I do?

    24. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They only thing you beat is your meat.

      Now settle down and STFU, child.

    25. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by greg_barton · · Score: 1

      I later went back to look at the laws in my state governing self-defense. They are totally impractical.

      Oh, you mean they say you can't shoot someone for playing loud annoying music? How impractical!

    26. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      Now, I agree that someone who does this sort fo thing probably deserves to get thier ass beat,

      Deserves? If he can make noise, why can't I?

      Oh, I forgot. He's a thug.

      And that's why this whole thing pisses me off. We're supposed to be civilized. Rules governing noise are supposed to prevent conflicts like this, but because of weak enforement, it comes down to who can be the biggest bully.

    27. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent was not a troll. Parent was humorous. Please mod accordingly. Or, metamod as appropriate. Thank you. The Management.

    28. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by kevlar · · Score: 1

      I carry one of those really big maglights with me in my car, just in case someone gets a little out of line. All you have to do is pick it up and make sure he sees it, OR even better, get out of the car holding it. Its like holding a metal bat, except its not.

      You have to figure, that if he were to shoot you, he'd do it through your windshield, so getting out wouldn't do any harm.

      Funny thing about the police station is that the asshole was probably a cop himself!

    29. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      Oh, you mean they say you can't shoot someone for playing loud annoying music? How impractical!

      RTFP.

      The guy threatened me because I honked my horn at him.

      And yes, the laws are impractical and that's why many innocent people get killed. The guy practically has to have his hands around your neck before you can do anything.

    30. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The kinds of people that listen to Drum and Bass don't always listen to hip-hop and vice-versa. That is a damn stereotype if I have ever heard one.

    31. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say "we're supposed to be civilized" yet you complain that we find fault with you when you participate in childish annoying tit for tat noise games.

      Civilization starts with you.

    32. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Cromac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Try to get your city to put speed bumps on your street, if it's residential they may well do it. People won't cruise streets with speed bumps, no one likes them, and they'll go drive up and down someone elses block.

    33. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by OpenSourceOfAllEvil · · Score: 1

      No no. What's better is to wait for said sociopath to pull next to a cop and then beam over "Fuck the Police"

    34. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      You say "we're supposed to be civilized" yet you complain that we find fault with you when you participate in childish annoying tit for tat noise games.

      Civilization starts with you.


      Ok. So what is a civilized person to do? I'm the bad-guy in all this. Help me. Let's hear your solution.

    35. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Tongo · · Score: 1

      Besides the fact that most of the ass hats that listen to their stereos to friggin loud listen to CD's, not the fucking radio. I don't think this trick would work so well on them.

    36. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, you're stupid.

      Before you go wishing you could "defend" yourself, remember you were the initial aggressor, following the jerk with the loud car.

      Try that again, and you might just find the person defending himself against the batshit freak who followed him home, ie, *you*.

      "It was self defense, officer! I just drove home, and this guy starts following me, honking his horn. I never seen the guy before. I didn't know what he would do."

    37. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      You know, it's sad that you're being persecuted over this and ppl are saying you deserve to get your ass kicked.

      Behind my house is an alleyway, and accross that alleyway is a park.

      When I was a teenager, I got high and drank deep in the forest so I'd be left alone.

      Things are different today. People come behind my house, drink, smoke up, pound their steros, hoot and holler and then drive off. this has been ongoing for three years. I've phone and spoke to the police, who advised that my complaint was insufficient to increase patrols. I've written city councilors. I've written the paper. No one cares. Apparantly I need to form a block watch society and speak on behalf of a group of people who are miffed.

      That's horse-shit. I should be heard when I have a complaint. They party behind MY house, not my neighbours' houses. My house is stregically located between the lamp posts where they cannot be seen.

      I applaud your actions. You didn't deserve to get your ass kicked. Not a day goes by where I ponder solutions to my problem. However they all end up with people knowing where I live and me not knowing where they live. I will lose no matter what action I take if I take matters into my own hands.

      I've thought about laying down caltrops and shards of glass, but it's still a park and don't want anyone innocent to get hurt by mistake.

      Oh, and always keep a can of bear spray in your car, in a pocket in a backpack. Cops can't take bear spray away from you if it's in a backpack - that's an acceptable place for it to be. You like to hike and need bear spray when you do so.

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    38. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then you, and the police, are idiots.

      How in the world do you put honking your horn as threatening while yet bass driving is annoying? Right...

      What did they guy expect while driving down the street with his music blowing everything else out of the water.

    39. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you had cornered me in a sidestreet, your vehicle would have been crushed. If you think otherwise because you drive a Hummer, I've seen Dodge Neons screw up SUVs on the highway, so I have little concern with vehicle size and a little bit of intelligence.

      Also, I will easily provoke an insurance claim of such an incident far greater than is worth the effort of you taking me on.

      Worse, if you attack me or provoke me with a car, my car becomes my first weapon against your wishes of my body from being your punching bag.

      I will EASILY exchange mutual assault and battery charges, because for me, I can easily handle the family and economic harm and emotional harm that comes from jail time. My bets are that you cannot.

    40. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He honked his horn, you idiot.

    41. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Lobo93 · · Score: 1

      I got my twelve gauge sawed off.
      I got my headlights turned off.
      I'm 'bout to bust some shots off.
      I'm 'bout to dust some cops off.

      Die, die, die pig, die!
      Fuck the police!


      There isn't a police officer on this planet who wouldn't go ballistic and draw from the hip at the sound of legendary "Cop Killer"! Way to go if you want their immediate attention... ;)

      --
      "The only clear view is from atop the mountain of our dead selves." - Peter Carroll
    42. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Glonoinha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok. So what is a civilized person to do? I'm the bad-guy in all this. Help me. Let's hear your solution.

      Damn, we get off topic tonight, or what?

      On topic, you could mod your iPod to broadcast either white space (silence) onto the guy's radio, or broadcast maximum output and volume in the 12 to 30 Hz range (extreme bass, will blow his shit right up.)

      Off topic :
      As for the theatrics, you were asking for it. If I am driving around minding my own business and someone gets out of his house, gets in his car, follows me around and drives into my neighborhood and honks his horn at me, that is pretty much the universal signal for 'let the violence commence.' Look at it from his perspective - you obviously chased him down and signalled to get his attention. It worked, and now that you had his attention he was interested in finding out what exactly you had in mind. Don't grab a tiger by the tail unless you have the balls to see it through.

      What can you do? Lets see.

      a: You could take a deep breath and let him pass, even at a slow pace in 14 seconds he will be gone. Yes, this is being a pussy but that's ok, it is how 99.999% of us handle most confrontations most of the time (including myself).

      b: Go rent the movie 'Falling Down' with Michael Douglas. Taking charge and standing up to 'those people' sounds pretty cool, but if you go about it mindlessly the cops will shoot you.

      c: Learn from b: and also realize that 'those people' are usually people just like you and I, they just happen to be touching a raw nerve you have exposed. Take a deep breath. Ask yourself if it is really worth getting all worked up over. It really isn't but if you spend any time thinking about it whatsoever he will be gone before you are done thinking about it.

      d: I could go on but I won't, because anybody that reads /. and whines about boomers driving in their neighborhood is probably too 'civilized' to kill someone on principle. Until you are ready for a revolution, you are going to have to keep putting up with it. Sorry. Sucks to live in fear, but until you are ready to point a gun at someone and (if necessary) pull the trigger there's not much you can do about it.

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      Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
    43. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot. Trying to come off and point that he is the aggressor is like watching a kid get beat up in the schoolyard, and when another kid jumps in to pull the two apart, saying the 3rd kid is the aggressor.

      Look up aggression. At no point did what the guy who left his home do anything that legally equates to aggression. Maybe in civil court if there were damages, but certainly nothing criminal.

      Even if someone follows you home and simply pulls around and honks, that's 100% legal. If the other guy then follows, still nothing. Other guy drives offensively in order to cause harm, runs lights, the other guy will be served.

      You shoot at a guy even in front your house, you're going to be answering far more legally.

    44. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Master+Cougar · · Score: 1

      I tell you, when I get disturbed by idiots at 3am with their damn stereos blasting, I wish I had a device that could zap them.

    45. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      c: Learn from b: and also realize that 'those people' are usually people just like you and I, they just happen to be touching a raw nerve you have exposed.

      I really wish that were the case, but I don't think it's true.

      It's obvious that such loud music is going to disturb others, isn't? For some people with loud bass, that's the whole point.

      Now, knowing that others are forced to listen, they continue. Why? What psychology is it that turns off that part of the conscience that takes the effects of one's action on others in to account? I have it. Those that bass with the object to disturb others, don't have it or have turned it off.

      There is a reason the original poster used the word "sociopathic". They aren't like the rest of us. They often have a much more adversarial outlook and bassing is one expression of that.

      It's important to me that I live in peace with others. What makes me very angry is that for some others, conflict is just part of getting their way. They don't desire peace. Again, such people are different from me.

    46. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The kinds of people that listen to Drum and Bass don't always listen to hip-hop and vice-versa. That is a damn stereotype if I have ever heard one.

      Um, hello. They are both sub-genres of one particular style of music: SHIT.
    47. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Nasarius · · Score: 1
      Not a day goes by where I ponder solutions to my problem. However they all end up with people knowing where I live and me not knowing where they live. I will lose no matter what action I take if I take matters into my own hands.

      Hm, that is difficult. But, you mentioned they have cars. Set up a video camera, or otherwise get their license plate numbers. Catch them on film doing something illegal. Submit the tape and plate numbers to the police. Might not work, but it's worth a shot.

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    48. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get your city to put speed bumps on your street

      Yeah right, this also deters the ambulance/firetruck in an emergency when seconds count.

    49. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Glonoinha · · Score: 1, Interesting

      b: Go rent the movie 'Falling Down' with Michael Douglas.

      Get back to me when you have watched it front to back, maybe twice.

      There are two ways to deal with thugs, best explained by the two ways America dealt with Al Qaeda.

      You can ignore them - this is how America handled it until Sept 11, 2001.
      You can apply the most overwhelming amount of destructive force you have available and at your disposal - this is how America handled it starting Sept 12, 2001.

      When dealing with thugs, there is no middle ground (because if you give them just a little grief they give it back double - you are only safe when you hurt them so bad they can't retaliate.) If you aren't ready to kill someone over the issue, don't pursue it. And playing the music too loud isn't really worth killing someome over.

      You sound like a reasonable man, living a gentle life. You would not have been able to make the important decisions that ended WWII - bringing peace to the world - because of the intense violence it took to force peace.

      I suggest you do what I do : look for it as an outlet for humor. Tell yourself a little racial joke, or compare the socioeconomic disparity between you and him. Remind yourself that he may have a loud sound system, but you have a Gig of RAM and a P4 (with hyperthreading!) When you can do that, it really won't bother you any more.

      One last thing : it isn't about him, it is about you. Perception is key here - your perception. A blue sky isn't good, it isn't bad ... it just 'is'. The only thing that makes it good or bad is how you decide to perceive it. As long as they don't physically interact with you or your property, it is all a matter of how you decide to perceive it. It is no different than a beautiful woman walking topless down your street - one neighbor will enjoy it, one neighbor will ignore it, one neighbor will be totally repulsed by it - it is all a matter of how you decide to see it.

      You want to live in peace with others, that peace comes from within. Most 'others' don't even know you exist. This is true right up until someone physically interacts with you or your property - that's when a totally different set of rules apply (but that's not what you inquired about.)

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      Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
    50. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

      It's people like you that give squares a good name.

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    51. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by surprise_audit · · Score: 1
      What you should really do is use something like an iPod mini to make a dead spot outside your house. Hook it up to an audio pickup and broadcast a silent track whenever excessive bass is detected.

      Yeah, there's problems with that, like detecting the station the bassidiot is playing, and maybe he's playing a CD instead of a the radio... Or get yourself a paintball gun and lay a few rounds on the back of his truck - that's probably slightly less risky than following him and making loud noises outside his house.

      What I need is something like an EMP gun that can take out the ignition on the annoyingly loud 4-wheeler the idiot kid next door rides around on... Or maybe I'll get a paintball gun...

    52. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      The really depressing thing is realizing that I'm essentially powerless. People can be a55holes and threaten your life and you can't do anything. Why? Because I have to follow the law while they have nothing to lose.

      Buy a gun.

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    53. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Scaba · · Score: 1

      Go ahead - throw your vote away!

      (Don't blame me - I voted for Kodos.)

      What's CCW? Cwedence Cwearwatew Wevival?

    54. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by identity0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Interesting suggestion, though sad that you'd have to do this. I suggest, however, that you get 'speed humps' instead. I know the name is a bit... funny, but they're basically like speed bumps, just wider and more gently sloped. They don't jar the car when you're going at slow speed, just when you go fast. Ordinary speed bumps make the car bounce at any speed, and would be annoying for residents as well, I imagine.

    55. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      Deserves? If he can make noise, why can't I?

      You can, but there's a difference between humming softly and softly telling someone that you fucked their mother.

      He was just listening to music, which irritated. You on the other hand decided to follow him around honking your horn, which is a deliberately irritating act.

      The hilarious thing is that you can go around following people, acting like a jerk, but when they do the same thing you freak out, call the cops, and 'get afraid for your life'. Hah, what a pussy. Oh, I forgot. He's a thug.

      And you're a whiny asshole.

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    56. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      So, what do I do?

      Well, for starters you could stop being such a choad.

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    57. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      Well, you threatened him for playing loud music. There's no reason to think that someone chasing you honking their horn doesn't have bad intentions. Someone who would get out of their house and chase someone around for a few seconds of annoyance obviously isn't the most rational person. Honestly, you're probably more of a danger to society then this guy.

      The fact that you were scared just means you're a huge pussy. I mean really, you chased him, then he chased. OMG SCARY!

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    58. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Kyeo · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      There are two ways to deal with thugs, best explained by the two ways America dealt with Al Qaeda.

      You can ignore them - this is how America handled it until Sept 11, 2001.
      You can apply the most overwhelming amount of destructive force you have available and at your disposal - this is how America handled it starting Sept 12, 2001.


      Apparently neither of those methods works.

    59. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      So for the moron in the SUV listening to to rap, they will most likely be stupified by the silence. Of course, if he changes channels, your shit out of luck, until you again find the one he's on again (if you have time and the chance, like following someone who is unawares).

      He'll be "most likely" listening to a CD. Your failure to realize this marks you out as more of a moran then the average SUV driver, I would think.

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    60. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should have had a gun in the car. Wait for the asshole to cut you off. He will get out and run over to your drivers side window. While he's doing this remove your gun and point it out the window. He won't notice it until he gets right at your window. Now this can go one of 2 ways:
      1. He sees the gun and runs away as fast as his punk legs can carry him.
      2. He stands there with a shit-faced look on his face. This is your cue to exit the vehicle and pistol whip him. Then get back in your vehicle and drive away.

      Both of these situations happened to friends of my dad. They were all off duty NYPD at the time. The moral of the story is: you shouldn't drive in New York without a gun.

    61. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      this marks you out as more of a moran then the average SUV driver

      Only someone with an IQ of under 25 would misspell that word. ;D By the way, I did think of that smart guy, but since most radio stations are blaring commercials much of the time, I would take it as read that any reasonably bright fellow, which you are DEFINATELY not as I am DEFINATELY a moron, should be able to parse from my humble prose. ;p

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    62. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get involved in local politics. It's the last place one guy can actually make a righteous difference, primarily because so few people get involved with local politics. If you can, get on the city council. Once you have some political power, you put heat on the hired-on chief of police. He can't get his cops to be effective, you get his lard butt fired, get someone who can. Most places have noise ordinances. So you can deal with that, and other more important issues that I bet you are noticing that need addressing in your area.

      Most local governments get lazy and corrupt. A go getter can be good for change, in any number of areas. Just remember to quit before you become lazy and corrupt yourself. Don't trust yourself on this, a term or two, quit.

      That, or move out to the country. Loudest noise we hear here is once in awhile some bigass military plane flies pretty low altitude, and that's about it. Get away from the burbs and the urban areas, they are increasingly getting crazier and crazier and more expensive. Get some priorities in order. Is "more money" with the city job more important than "more sanity and peace" to you and for your family? Make a decision. We moved out of the city precisely from too much crime, crackheads, winos, mobile boom boxes, indifferent police, 24 hour noise, sirens all night long, increasingly expensive everything, just... an accumulation of "wrongness", that and a few personal reasons. It is SO much better rural. There's trade-offs, yes, several, but over-all it's worth it.

    63. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who think they can get their way by conflict unfortunately do much of the time. Eventually they will run up against someone bigger and badder than them with unpleasant consequences.

      I have a 5th dan in aikido. I learned while at tournaments that there is always someone better than you and its not always who you think. I have beaten higher ranked opponents who are bigger than me and unfortunately been tossed around by someone smaller than me.

    64. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      I never chased him. He drove by my house and parked about 2 blocks away. I got in my car, drove by the house and honked. I never chased him.

      I also never threatened his life. He threatened mine. He was an angry young man that wanted a fight. I explained why it was I did what I did, but he simply wanted to kick my ass. I never wanted to fight and I would have lost anyway. He was huge and agressive.

    65. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      .303

    66. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consealed Carryabled Woppon yuo dompasss

    67. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      He was just listening to music, which irritated. You on the other hand decided to follow him around honking your horn, which is a deliberately irritating act.

      You're wrong.

      It's obvious that loud bass disturbs others, yet he continues to do it. That is a deliberately irratating act.

      So I go to do the same and I'm the bad guy?

      The hilarious thing is that you can go around following people, acting like a jerk, but when they do the same thing you freak out, call the cops, and 'get afraid for your life'. Hah, what a pussy. Oh, I forgot. He's a thug.

      I didn't follow him around honking. He drove by my house and pulled into a driveway about 2 blocks from me. I drove by and honked my horn.

      He then chased me and at times tried to play chicken with me by driving head on at me in the wrong lane. He was insane.

      But go ahead and defend him. I suspect you're just as much an asshole as he is.

    68. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you could use a 50 watt transmitter with a VFO, and tune around until your considerable carrier blocks "his" received station. According to the FCC, that is not legal, however. If you had an "odd" antenna on your vehicle, you would be immediately suspect. You would have to use a coil to load your transmitters output to the car antenna, or just have a hidden dipole underneath your car, properly insulated, of course. The rest would be up to you, to keep a straight face, and pretend you didn't do anything. 100 watts would be better still, and would probably reach out and block that frequency, and some harmonics up and down the band, for a few hundred feet, at least. The harmonics would at short range do the job, but when you tune your VFO around looking for the main frequency, then you'll move off the signal to block while doing that.

    69. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When does blowing a vehicle horn constitute picking or provoking a fight?

      Or are you saying he should be afraid of someone who plays loud music? Interesting the assumptions you make here. You call someone a pussy yet you sound like you know of these situations far more than Travis does. You probably suck at Poker.

      How the hell do you run away from annoying people when they drive by your home while carrying on illegally and the cops do shit about it? Is the disparity in understanding this situation a generational or intelligence gap?

      If that guy (the bass boomer) would have *followed* me (which is what you admonish Travis of doing), he would have found out what exactly his rash act would have caused. He'd have an accident report at minimum. But that's me; I hit them in the pocketbook and pre-empt it from getting further along, forcing the situation to go to another level, in this case they have to report it to their insurance andthe police why the accident occurred.

      Travis was a willing participant? Are you on crack? And the mods have your post at a 5? Sheesh. Cause. Effect. Cause. Effect. Both fuq'd up, and to put it all on Travis for instigating is ridiculous. Even the law doesn't say so. The law says who makes the first legal attempt to cause bodily harm consitutes assault. That does not include music or following or blowing a horn. That would be the other party who threatened him verbally. Even if you are threatened verbally, the action you return has to be proportional to stop the abuse, nothing more. iow, if someone threatens you, even says they will kill you, you cannot take out a shotgun or Barrett or whatever you have handy to blow them away. You have to take preliminary action to defuse the situation, then defensive action, then stoppage action if need be. You cannot just go to beat some guy up.

      In this case, the first person who attempted to use their vehicle directly to assault the other person is the initiator. Or the first person to exit their vehicle starts it--both are clear acts of aggression. Following is not, even right up to your driveway, unless following can be shown that led to an initial act of aggression. Bass boomer can cry a river about how he felt he was being threatened, but no reasonable jury is going to say he was threatened directly because someone followed him home after he acted like a complete ass and annoyed an entire street. Neither appear to be Travis.

      For example, guy exits vehicle to accost you. You do NOT have the right to exit your vehicle. You can, however, roll down your window. Guy hits your car with his fist, tries to enter through the window, depending on the speed and level of agression, you can ask him to remove himself from your vehicle or you can take your Maglite to stuff it in his face to get him away. You do not have the right to bash his face in. He keeps coming at you, you can be defensive and that may constitute stepping out of the vehicle. He pulls a knife or tackles you, you can use stoppage, minimum power to make it stop doing what he is doing.

      If you think otherwise, you have NEVER been in such a situation. Frankly, I think you are all talk and most of it is coming out of your ass. You think you know what you are doing, but don't, and that frankly makes you an idiot.

      As to the mod points, I think there are too many people who are moderators who have watched someone get beat down in a locker room or on a schoolyard and decided it was better to walk away or doing nothing. Shame on you.

    70. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gas. Plain and simple. Worked for the jews and works for niggers, I tell you. One can had cost 3,50 Deutsche Reichsmark and was enough for 200 people. Better investment than welfare cheques, I tell you. Bill Cosby was right, man. He is BLACK but human, but you Sir are human waste.

    71. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They reportedly recently did this in a neighborhood of Manheim Township (Lancaster county, PA) but for different reasons.

      MT supposedly has a pass-through law/code. Basically, you're not supposed to cut through residential neighborhoods and do ridiculous shortcuts. It's sort of a silly law to be on the books, but unfortunately it has to be, since people take these shortcuts ridiculously, the routes were not intended to be high traffic, it reduces the quality of life of people in the area (noise, traffic, accidents, speeders), and is not really safe (blind curves and bends, pedestrians, children in the area).

      Frankly, I've NEVER seen it enforced; actually, the contrary, you can drive around after 3pm to about 5.5pm and watch cars cut through neighborhoods off of Fruitville Pike and 501 all the time.

      And if they were effectively enforcing this, they wouldn't have needed to put up the speed bumps in the below neighborhood. This was a big thing for me when they were trying to build a ballpark on the south side; the officials were saying this law would protect surrounding areas, which was utterly laughable and I don't think anyone believed it (ballpark was struck down).

      Anyways, one neighborhood apparently was getting overrun, so they put in speed bumps. It supposedly drasticly cut down on people cutting through.

    72. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by madmancarman · · Score: 1
      Er, possibly... go wrong. Heh, that's the first thing that's ever gone wrong.

      Come to think of it, this is the best idea ever. Now let us never speak of it again.

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    73. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      I once (years ago, in elementary school) took one of those apart and wired in a plug so i could hook it up to my tape deck (it actually worked, despite a lack of soldering iron or any other good method of connecting components)

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    74. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a negro, right?

    75. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The speed bumps don't help. Come to my neighborhood in Chicago (Uptown) and see all the bass-blasting pimp cars roll over the bumps.

    76. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      speak for your self. The US system may be screwed up, but us foreginers already know this. Unfortunetly you guys have your head too far up you don't realise this. Kinda reflects on the whole nations way of thinking!

    77. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Brianwa · · Score: 1

      Our local power company rents out street lights for about nine dollars a month, perhaps you should consider getting one so they no longer have a dark haven in your backyard.

    78. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until you are ready for a revolution, you are going to have to keep putting up with it. Sorry. Sucks to live in fear, but until you are ready to point a gun at someone and (if necessary) pull the trigger there's not much you can do about it.

      Wow, it's either a gunshot to the other guy's melon or "pussy out", huh? Thank god not everyone is as Manichean as you.

      Bureaucracy is a pain in the ass, but if you have persistent problems (like loud cars in your neighborhood), persistent pressure on your local city council and/or police department will usually take care of it.

      A good place to start would be to visit the police station and explain your problem. They will often offer to stake out your neighborhood, assuming you can give them a day and time they'll be likely to catch your troublemakers.

      If that doesn't work, move up to your mayor and city council. You can accomplish a lot in a single visit to a city council meeting. If your problem is reasonable, it doesn't take much to convince them to give the police some new direction.

      This, btw, is how civilized people solve problems. It doesn't always work, but you'd be surprised how often it does. That's why we built up a whole society around this way of resolving differences. We don't go around shooting people in the head.

    79. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No throwing your vote away is voting for someone just because you don't think anyone else can win. It's a self fullfing prophecy.
      The only way to NOT throw your vote away is to vote for whom you honestly WANT to win. Elswise you keep electing the same crooks who have no worries they migh lose thier jobs if they don't shape up.
      When you vote lesser of two evils your saying "go ahead and keep screwing me, I won't do anything about it" and incouraging them.
      And ccw is Carry of a Concealed weapon permit.
      More and more states are making these available, some on a shall issue basis, as they see the benifits of lower crime in other states that have done so.

      Mycroft

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    80. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by UncleFluffy · · Score: 1

      That's horse-shit. I should be heard when I have a complaint. They party behind MY house, not my neighbours' houses. My house is stregically located between the lamp posts where they cannot be seen.

      My suggestion would be an IR sensor and a bright spotlight. Many times in my teens I settled down to enjoy a quiet joint only to be startled by a security light suddenly flashing on. Far more effective than a static light.

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    81. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by greg_barton · · Score: 1

      The guy threatened me because I honked my horn at him.

      Yeah. After you followed him. You were stupid enough to leave your home and follow someone who was obviously an asshole. What did you expect, flowers and a kiss?

      If a dog shits in the middle of the street, to you walk over and smell it?

      Sure, the guy's music was annoying, and his threats uncalled for, but what did you expect? By following him you were hunting for trouble, then you called the police to bail you out. Next time don't get mad, get even. But if you do get mad for chrissakes be able to handle the situation.

    82. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      Actually America is trying to do exactly what I said wouldn't work : be semi-reserved in the use of force and hope that they don't do anything in response. America is holding back, and it is not going to work.

      Hiroshima. 8:15 AM; August 6, 1945. America did not hold back, they used the most horrific destruction available and at their disposal - killed about 50,000 people in about 10 seconds.

      Nagasaki. Three days later. America set the record straight - we are not fucking around. No, really - we are serious. Killed maybe another 50,000 people in the blick of an eye.

      Our current policy is basically 'be a pussy.' We are showing weakness to a foe that feasts on displays of weakness. We are in fear this weekend that someone is going to do something in retribution.

      We live in fear because they do not. You are right, what we are doing isn't working - because we are not really doing what I said we were. What I should have said in that second sentence was 'this is how America should have handled it starting Sept 12, 2001.' But it is how they handled it 8:15 AM on August 6, 1945 - and it was very effective.

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    83. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by EvanED · · Score: 1

      If you do #2 you're going to prison for assault. Probably one of the only reasons that didn't happen to your dad's friends is because they are officers.

    84. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by EvanED · · Score: 1

      See if you can establish a pattern. Do they always go home at the same time, or leave, or drive by. If so, you might be able to pick a slow day of the year and have a cop come sit out in front of your house to cite the guy when he goes by.

      You may be able to get him too if you can set up a video camera and audio recorder. Make sure to have a refernce tone played with a known sound level to compare to.

    85. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying what exactly? That we should nuke Iraq? What would General Glonoinha do? I'm also curious how you think our economy would work after the rest of the civilized nations of the world boycotted American products. Would we nuke them, too?

      The "either you're killing everyone you can or you're a pussy" worldview just doesn't jibe with reality for me. Remember the Cold War? Were we being 'pussies' because we didn't launch all the missiles and blow the enemy to Hell?

    86. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by EvanED · · Score: 1

      It's obvious that loud bass disturbs others, yet he continues to do it. That is a deliberately irratating act.

      But it may not be an intentionally irrating act. (I'm using the legal term here, meaning specific intent, not general intent.) He's listening to music with a lot of really loud bass because he likes to listen to music with a lot of really loud bass, not because he wants to annoy you. (I assume.) You on the other hand drove by with the specific intent to get some form of "revenge" upon him by honking your horn as you drove by.

      Granted, this guy is an asshole, and should probably go to jail for reckless driving (it's a pity you didn't have a video camera hooked up to your car). But, you are not exactly an angel in this situation either.

    87. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Nagasaki. Three days later. America set the record straight - we are not fucking around. No, really - we are serious. Killed maybe another 50,000 people in the blick of an eye.

      And in the process committed one of the US's gravest atrocities.

      Many believe the Hiroshima bomb was unnecessary; I'm not gonna argue that, especially because I don't completely buy it myself. But, dropping the Nagasaki bomb, at least at such incredibly short order from Hiroshima, was nothing short of 100,000 murders.

    88. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Uhhm, NO!
      Basically what thier going to look at is who escalated it to phyisical violence and whether they had ANY other reasonable course of action, being able to just leave and go home counts as a reasonable alternative. The one who resorted to physical violence is gonna do time, the one who honked is going to get a stern talking to and maybe a fine for disturbing the peace.
      IANAL

      Mycroft

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    89. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the best solution to your problem that I can see short of forming a watch is not a free one.
      What you can do is get a very bright spotlight, focus it on the area such that the neigbors are not bothered by the light. Also consider a sign informing them they are on camera.
      I would suggest protecting the spotlight so a bb-gun or thrown liquor bottle can't break it. If they start trying to damage the light you have a more serious complaint to make to the police and so on.

      Mycroft

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    90. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Actually they both work. In one method the thugs kill/drive off everyone else. problem mostly solved.
      In the other the thugs all get killed/driven off, problem mostly solved.
      Neigther works overnight. Just too many on both sides. There are fewer thugs, but they tend to hide.
      I say mostly because there will ALWAYS be more thugs. Now you can incourage that by apeasment, or discourage that by removal.

      Mycroft

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    91. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Gonzoman · · Score: 1

      My thoughts on your post.

      You are letting someone else control your emotions. By getting angry, you are giving these people exactly the response they want. Your irrational reation to your emotion put you in a dodgy situation.

      I look at it as the difference between reaction and response. Reaction is letting the emotion control you and give the other person control over how you feel. Response is slowing down, thinking about the situation and changing how you feel about it. This allow you to respond to the situation as rationally as possible and with yourself in control.

    92. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No shit.

      I've had the experience of a CB'er driving by broadcasting WAY too much power.

      I heard him on the telephone. I heard him on the stereo that was playing nearby. I heard him on the alarm clock. I heard him on the computer speakers. I heard him through the fucking fillings in my mouth.

      Evil stuff that.

    93. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The end hasn't played out on the second method, so the only thing we can be sure of is that the first method dosen't work.

      I'm not a fan of Bush, but we're in it now. If we don't see it through to the end, we're going to be in twice the shit.

    94. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just so ya know, man... I'm with ya, and I feel your pain. You're in the right, and the thugs need some serious attitude adjustment.

      I'm glad you got out of it okay. Really.

    95. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Scaba · · Score: 1
      More and more states are making these available, some on a shall issue basis, as they see the benifits of lower crime in other states that have done so.

      Ahh, well...I live in a commonwealth founded by Quakers. In 2002 we ranked 44th in the country for violent and property-related crimes per 100,000. We do allow CCW, as well as abortions for some and miniature flags for others.

      No throwing your vote away is voting for someone just because you don't think anyone else can win. It's a self fullfing prophecy.

      You read Slashdot and didn't get the Simpson's reference? What kind of nerd are you, anyway? ;>)

      From the SNPP:

      Homer: America, take a good look at your beloved candidates. They're nothing but hideous space reptiles.
      [unmasks them]
      [audience gasps in terror]
      Kodos: It's true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about it? It's a two-party system; you have to vote for one of us.
      [murmurs]
      Man1: He's right, this is a two-party system.
      Man2: Well, I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate.
      Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away.
      [Kang and Kodos laugh out loud]
      [Ross Perot smashes his "Perot 96" hat]
      -- "Treehouse of Horror VII"
    96. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Sorry. I've heard that exact line from so many people, some otherwise capable of rational thought, that I didn't realize you were quoting Simpsons. It happens alot when you tell people you usualy vote for a third party (libertarian).
      Also I avoid tv except two shows these days, and totaly avoided it during most of the simpsons timeframe. At first because I lived so far from civilization that I got 2 snowy channels at best for a year, and when I moved in where I could get tv, it all seems so stupid and lame. amazing what getting away from a 'crack habbit' like tv can do to your perspective.

      Mycroft

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    97. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      you need a lightbar (green / clear are legal in most places, see your local jurisdiction for which ones are and aren't), and an airhorn, and a PA, then you can show him who is boss! I dunno what you do once they stop, probably get the shit beat out of you, but I am getting a lightbar just for the coolness of it.

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    98. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I can put three rounds center mass and not shed a tear."

      Oh! Yes!

      "Sad but true."

      Time to clean up the cum.

    99. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are totally crazy.

      I would stay the fuck away from you if I were me.

      Fortunately, I am.

    100. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 1

      100000 dB is a little overkill. Amplitudes greater than 180dB will cause death if sustained over a period of time.

      I think that it is amplitudes of about 160dB (from memory) that will cause permanent deafness.

      So, lets take a look at this value of 100,000 dB shall we?

      160dB (or around that figure) will burst your eardrum, causing permanent deafness

      I cannot remember exactly what happens to your body to kill you above 180dB, but for some reason I believe the symptoms are very similar to that of a severe stroke...

      And since the dB scale is a logarithmic scale, 100,000dB (or 10,000B) is one hell of an amplitude

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    101. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What could possibly go worng?"

      Your post appears to be borken.

    102. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by batemanm · · Score: 1
      It's obvious that loud bass disturbs others, yet he continues to do it. That is a deliberately irratating act.
      So I go to do the same and I'm the bad guy?

      So your argument here is that if person A has loud music and disturbs others' then he is the bad guy but if person B does the same thing they are not the bad guy, it is somehow person A's fault. From person C's point of view you are both annoying and both need to stop behaving in a socially unacceptable manner.

    103. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by ShavenYak · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure generating a signal of 100,000dB would require converting more than the mass of the Universe into energy. You need 10^9990 times the amount of power required for a 100dB signal.

      --

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    104. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by PetWolverine · · Score: 1

      That's Cweawwatew, with a dubbew-w. You wetawd.

      --
      I found the meaning of life the other day, but I had write-only access.
    105. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      I don't think this is in the same episode, but just some more fun with Homer over a loudspeaker.

      Bart: "That's not just any microphone, Dad. It's the Rapmaster 5000!"

      (Homer ignoring Bart while patrolling the street, starts ordering kids around on the Rapmaster 5000 megaphone with the freestyle beat in the background)

      Kids on street: "It's Hammer!" (start dancing around the car)

      --

      It would be cool if it didn't suck.
    106. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      I tell you, when I get disturbed by idiots at 3am with their damn stereos blasting, I wish I had a device that could zap them.

      One of my friends did get someone who listened to music really loud on headphones real good. He managed to "borrow" the tape casette, took a magnet to it, and crumple the film some and put it back into the guy's belongings.

      The guy pulls it out later, starts listening to the casette really loudly....dum dumdum dum dumdumCRRHSHSHSSHHHRTHMMBTHMT!!! "AAHHH!!!"

      Heheheh...fun.

      --

      It would be cool if it didn't suck.
    107. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      Perhaps.

      You are trying to read the minds of thousands of Japanese military leaders, undo what happened at Nagasaki and interpolate what they would have done. Given that you didn't see Pearl Harbor coming (you have an excuse if you are under 70, which I am guessing) you may / may not be correct.

      There is a lot of hypothesis surrounding Nagasaki, and one question with a known factual answer : Did it work? The answer is, as we all know, Yes. Whether or not it would have worked otherwise is simply Monday Morning Quarterbacking but in 1945 failure wasn't an option.

      Know why we didn't drop two nukes on Barcelona and Madrid? Because Spain didn't start a fight with us, strike at us first, blow up our Battleships (Twin Towers), or (most importantly) threaten to fight us to the last man and forever strive to make us afraid. Japan did. They decided it wasn't worth it after America unleased the four horsemen. That last one is what is being threatened right now, a certain group will never relent, never back down, and strive forever to make us afraid.

      We tried limited, targed, precision munitions in Afghanistan. Didn't work.
      We are trying to 'be the good guys' and be 'politically correct' in Iraq. It isn't working.

      When Americans can celebrate their Independence Day (July 4th) without being afraid - whatever we did to get there worked and was worth whatever it took. This year that isn't the case and whatever we have done so far obviously isn't working. Everybody knows what it takes to turn a group of terrorists into a peaceful society - simply raise the stakes to a level that they are no longer willing to participate. The question now is whether or not Bush has the balls to pull the trigger. I'm guessing not.

      --
      Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
    108. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anger management classes.

      Maybe meditation.

      Maybe think about how it really isn't that big of a deal. Just ignore it, instead of nursing your victimhood long after the initial offense ended.

      What's worse, 60 seconds of annoying music, or being pissed off for 5 minutes about it?

    109. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      Yeah. After you followed him. You were stupid enough to leave your home and follow someone who was obviously an asshole. What did you expect, flowers and a kiss?

      It disturbs me that there are so many here willing to simply pile on rather than offer more constructive criticism.

      I mean, I get shit on by some asshole, relate the story here, then get shit on again.

      I know, I know, "what did you expect, flowers and a kiss?"

      I suppose I did expect more. My mistake.

    110. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by greg_barton · · Score: 1

      It disturbs me that there are so many here willing to simply pile on rather than offer more constructive criticism.

      The pile on is constructive criticism. Lay down your pride and listen.

      And the point is this: don't disturb a beast. Scare it away, befriend it, distract it, or put it down. Just don't piss it off.

    111. Re:From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      More comedy for those keeping score:

      definitely

      If you're going to type it in caps (TWICE!) make sure you're spelling it properly, so you don't draw attention to the fact that you're definately a moran.

      --
      do not read this line twice.
  2. blue butt chez by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    propz to my mini ipod homez

    1. Re:blue butt chez by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only on slashdot would blue butt chez get modded insightful.

  3. Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Skyshadow · · Score: 4, Insightful
    So, how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads? Hell, with all the traffic traveling in groups like it does, you could be stuck like that for *hours*. Might be time to update the CD collection or install an XM antenna...

    As a side note, living in Oakland I've developed the viewpoint that it's far better to just ignore the boom cars and go about your business. It might be cool with the wannabes in Nebraska, but around here you're just begging to need an appointment with your local auto body shop to get a bunch of 9mm holes Bondo-ed.

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    1. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by TheTXLibra · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "So, how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads?"

      Come visit the DFW, Texas area. That's exactly what's on the radio, all the time. You get about 2 songs an hour, the rest are adverts for enlargements, sex toys, cheap pills, and debt-dodging.

      --
      -The Libra
      "Please be patient--The future will begin momentarily."
    2. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm going to make a track of nothing but siren noises. That way people who are listening to the radio in their car will pull over to let me pass.

    3. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And some "Georgie buys them too, he's one of us, you should vote for him."-ads too...

    4. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just like the useless commercials that are displayed on the RDS screens? Here in KC, MO there's a radio station that actually uses RDS to display song title and artist.

      --

      Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.

    5. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      In Atlanta it's all debt consolidation, sex related pills, and that Usher song about knocking up his girlfriend.

      -B

    6. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by bluethundr · · Score: 2, Funny

      "So, how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads?"

      "Come visit the DFW, Texas area. That's exactly what's on the radio, all the time."


      As you say, this is Texas. <shrugs shoulders>

      --
      Quod scripsi, scripsi.
    7. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      christ mod that up as funny, i hate that usher song. that's my fucking confession.

    8. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Say, from another Libra...

      I thought Tx is one of those states where it is ILLEGAL to sell or advertise/display items for use as sexual toys, even if for couple aiding.

      I remember watching on TV sometime a few months ago about a woman who was (maybe not in TX) holding sexual aid parties, much like there were Tupperware parties. Her state law enforcement threw her in jail, mainly due to some hyper-old, asinine-today, conservative law still on the books.

      David Syes

      --
      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    9. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by MP3Chuck · · Score: 1

      Don't give 'em any ideas...

    10. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by evilviper · · Score: 4, Insightful
      how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads?

      Won't happen. An FM broadcast can be tracked down easily, and you wouldn't be affecting a large enough number of people to make it worthwhile.

      Might be time to update the CD collection or install an XM antenna...

      You'll be more susceptible to unauthorized broadcasts with satellite than with terrestrial... once people get their hands on them. If this becomes popular, I'm sure they will start being sold.

      It might be cool with the wannabes in Nebraska, but around here you're just begging to need an appointment with your local auto body shop to get a bunch of 9mm holes Bondo-ed.

      Get a gun of your own, and a continuous-loop camera in your car.

      The big difference between Nebraska and Oakland is that the public in Nebraska wouldn't put up with that. If you are willing to just close your eyes, and pretend that nothing is happening, it won't ever stop. Sometimes people really do resemble cattle.
      --
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    11. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by wrf3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      So much for "everything's bigger in Texas".

    12. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      I am sure EVERY state has a vehicle code on that subject. ANY cop who sees you approaching Moses-like, parting the traffic will have a field day with you.

      It might be funny, especially if you actually can get the traffic to part or pull over for what might pass as an "undercover" vehicle when ambulances and fire trucks hardly get any respect.

      Maybe you can just go by with a super-power jammer and suppress their coils or activate the annular confinement beam. Try boosting the output to your lateral sensor array, for greater effect, heheh...

      --
      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    13. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder why there are so many penis enlargement ads in DFW???

    14. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah right, in dallas there is a chain of stores called "Condems to go" and they advertise all over the place

    15. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Enigma_Man · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You'll be more susceptible to unauthorized broadcasts with satellite than with terrestrial... once people get their hands on them. If this becomes popular, I'm sure they will start being sold.

      Why, pray tell, is it easier to make unauthorized broadcasts on satellite radio band than any other band?

      -Jesse

      --
      Nothing says "unprofessional job" like wrinkles in your duct tape.
    16. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Jorj+X.+McKie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, that was Texas. And yes, the stupid law is still on the books. The reason that she got in trouble was that she sold them as marital aids, and gave advice on how to use them. If you sell them as "novelties", you're fine. Dallas has its share of "Condoms to Go" stores, and I'd guess that it would be illegal to sell much of their inventory for its obvious purpose.

      Uh, not that I would, uh, ever go in there... (Looks over shoulder) :-)

      --
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    17. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are not impersonating a police officer/car.

      you are broadcasting it. otherwise every cd that has sirens in it could get in trouble.

    18. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOu got kinda caught in the moment there eh? Its ok, we all feel like that sometimes. :-)

    19. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      And how exactly are they going to figure out that he was broadcasting anything? It's not like he'll have a 30-ft antenna on top of his car. And of course, anyone not listening to the radio (which should be a significant fraction of the traffic, given the number of tape and CD players installed in modern cars) won't even notice, and will also not pull over.

    20. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by hornrimsylvia · · Score: 2, Funny

      actually in nebraska we don't use 9mm, we use 12 and gauge shotguns. handguns are for wusses.

    21. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Listen to another radio station. IOW, turn it off 105.3 ;->

    22. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll be more susceptible to unauthorized broadcasts with satellite than with terrestrial... once people get their hands on them. If this becomes popular, I'm sure they will start being sold.

      Oh yeah? Well what about extra-terrestrial, smart guy? ET's gonna put the smack down on that ass.

    23. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      12 and guage shotguns


      It is called the preview button. Use it before making yourself look like a moron.
    24. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1
      how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads?

      I suspect that modifying an iPod antenna this way, and using it this way, would violate some pretty serious FCC laws against illegal use of frequencies. Get caught, pay BIG fine.

      It's one thing to use it once or twice for giggles, but quite another to make a repeating business practice of it. You would eventually get burnt.

      --

      They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
    25. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by bigberk · · Score: 1
      So, how long before we're driving down the highway and suddenly all of our radio stations turn into debt consolidation or penis enlargement ads?
      See, but in that case the spammers would be stealing airtime from the other crooks, err, legitimate marketerss. So there would be some powerful backlash probably. In the case of the Internet, we're a bunch of volunteers and admins on cooperating networks. We don't have the same capital to fight spam.
    26. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I suspect that the reason why there isn't such violence in Nebraska is because it wouldn't be allowed to pass by unchallenged.

      If some punk kid thought he could pull a gun on you for "bothering" him about his music, he'd soon have half a dozen guns pointed at his head.

      Ok, well not quite. But there are enough gun owners in nebraska and other such states to make such behavior foolhardy.

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    27. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      12 and guage shotguns

      Maybe you should heed your own advice.

    28. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by davidsyes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Oh, yeh, that's it. The marital aides thing got her into hot water. It's such a pathetic law. Now, if only the current governor and mayors could be caused to have sexual dysfunctions, run out of legal outlets, then have to seek out people like that lady their current law mandates be jailed.

      Mean time, guns can be sold left and right, with no apparent war of civil disturbance in sight.

      WACO- "W e A i n ' t C o m i n' O u t !!!

      (I learned this one from a USPS employee...)

      ------
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      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/08/12/alcatel_ ow ns_us_employees_thoughts/

      http://www.phpkitchen.com/article.php?story=2002 08 20100512297

      http://www.txcn.com/sharedcontent/ptech/weblog/b i_ weblog081602.a58b17bb.html

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      However, being a Libra, I must admit some novel or great things have arisen from or been created in Tx. But, around 1999/2000 "reincarnation acceleration" of a number of inmates was in vogue. Meanwhile, many police departments couldn't get all the funding they needed, resulting in evidence being destroyed when rain leaked into evidence rooms and such.

      Where is Jimmy Dean Sausage from?

      David Syes

      --
      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    29. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Say, how nearby are the "Kum n' Go" (some are in Colorado, and for the name alone I made sure to get some pictures of the signage) shops or the "Bulk Cigar-ettes" stores? Toy, condoms and munchies. Maybe they could rename the store to "Cnodoms Goo To" so it's less obvious, but would be bad marketing, suppose.

      Would it be possible to legitimately open a boutique in Texas and display and sell RealDoll products? I wonder what legal and social impacts would result....hehee

      --
      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    30. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      If you blast the sound of sirens and people pull over, it might be that the sounding car had a red light. Maybe, maybe not. But, if a cop sees you moving while others pull over, the officer MIGHT have **probable cause** and ask to search your CD player, whether it's in the dash, under the seat or in the trunk. In CA, if you refuse a search, your vehicel CAN or MIGHT be impounded. It's legal here, as indicated on your acceptance of your driver's license. You are told before you take the test and submit your payment.

      But note this:

      Some decades ago (circa 1970's/early '80s) a Radioman or Crypto Tech or other type in the Navy made off with a piece of transmission equipment. It was strong enough to knock out starters or components and stall the adjacent cars. When he drove on, the police identified who was knocking out cars. When they saw the equipment, they notified the Navy, which promptly locked the guy up for making off with highly secret or sensitive equipment.

      Metaphorically, that is what the CD blasting would be. However, if most states are like California, you can be cited for the following types of acts:

      --using light, sound, electromagnetic, mechanical or other means to alter, confuse, disrupt, recycle, activate, deactivate, etc, timing or other traffic control devices

      -----doing such things to disrupt or confuse or reroute vechicular traffic...

      There was, and still may be a time yet that I will be able to use the high-beams to change the lights late at night so I don't have to stop. I used to do it in the late 80's to early 90's, but ALWAYS made sure to never do so when LE (Law Enforcement) was around. Using the headlights to change the traffic signals is verbotten. I learned it from a friend who had a relative who installed signal lights. Nowadays, most lights are computer and sensor-wire controlled, or monitored by remote cameras.

      David Syes

      --
      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    31. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by YankeeInExile · · Score: 2, Informative

      Power budget analysis:

      • five meters away instead of 37,000 km: +137 dB
      • penalty for off-axis antenna: -20dB
      • Forcing you to listen to my audiospam instead of XM: Priceless

      The satellite might have a few dB of advantage considering relative power, but I think the EIRP of those birds is pretty low ... certainly less than +50dBm ... so even if I'm using a true QRPppppp (say one milliwatt) transmitter, I've still got 67 dB on the satellite

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    32. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by nyekulturniy · · Score: 1

      You must not live in Washington D.C. There, you'd need to pull that miracle parting of the cars in Bruce Almighty to get anywhere in an emergency vehicle.

      --
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    33. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by FredFnord · · Score: 1
      Won't happen. An FM broadcast can be tracked down easily, and you wouldn't be affecting a large enough number of people to make it worthwhile.
      You must be kidding. A small (but illegally high-powered) transmitter in the trunk of your car could do several hundred yards' radius easy. Get stuck in a traffic jam and you could torment everyone around you for an hour or two without a problem. And a moving low-power FM transmitter is about as easy to latch onto as a floating virus in a class 000 clean room.

      -fred
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    34. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      We have handguns! We also have rifles, carbines, and knives of questionable legality! We don't have many iPods, though, at least not where I live.

    35. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, dude... that's what he was quoting as being the mistake...

    36. Re:Jesus, and you thought Spam was bad... by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Get stuck in a traffic jam and you could torment everyone around you for an hour or two without a problem.

      Not true. Broadcasting on ALL FM stations would be beyond the means of most everyone, and people do not all listen to the same station, all the time.

      And a moving low-power FM transmitter is about as easy to latch onto as a floating virus in a class 000 clean room.

      My point was that they couldn't start to do high-power broadcasts (even from a moving target) without being tracked down very quickly, so it's a matter of having to be very near-by someone doing this. That reduces the size of the audience severly, makes it less likely you'd ever experience such a broadcast, and shortens the ammount of time you'd be annoyed by it. Pretty quickly, playing ads over this low-power signal isn't worth the gas money.
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  4. Haha by arieswind · · Score: 4, Funny

    Haha, I've already got my "*beep* *beep* *beep* This radio station's music playing rights have been revoked because of repeat violations of the musical taste law. We are sorry for any inconvienience you may suffer *beep* *beep* *beep* silence....." track made up. With a 50 foot radius on my iTrip, theres no end to the possibilities >:)

    1. Re:Haha by dresgarcia · · Score: 1

      I would be wary of 50ft radius on the iTrip, I sometimes get interference from the 5 feet it needs to go to my car antenna.

    2. Re:Haha by identity0 · · Score: 1

      "So I was driving my dad's Caddy, Vannila Ice turned way up so all the peeps in da hood can hear, when the radio went like, *beep beep beep*, and I was like, uuunh? ...

      My name is Ellen Feiss, and I'm totally gangsta."

  5. Ahoy Matey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arrrrr, I be broadcastin' on IPOD radio with only the finest of pirate MP3s....

    Seriously, it's a fun idea. Right along with Jamming other driver's cell phones and the police radar detectors and the MIRT system to give me all the green lights!

  6. great idea, but would never work... by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Ever want to silence the urban assault vehicle beside you at the stop light, pounding out gangster angst at orthodontia-rattling volumes?
    yeah, great idea for 1% of vehicles listening to 'gangster angst' that aren't listening to CD's... most vehicles that you pull up to and cause your own car to shake aren't going to be listening to radio. lower end frequencies aren't there compared to CD.
    1. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except most people with a sound system powerfull enough to do that likely have a large disc changer in their trunk, broadcasting over short range to their car radio. You could always just broadcast over a slightly larger range and interfere with that signal.

      (As an aside, I've actually had radio stations I was listening to fade partially out and started hearing whatever someone driving past me was playing because of this).

      I think if stuff like this starts happening on a larger scale, we might start seeing more use of intelligent frequency-hopping radio devices, more like wifi networking that fixed-frequency broadcasting. Maybe get some of this damned FCC regulated frequencies crap fixed in the process.

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    2. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Snorklefish · · Score: 5, Funny

      Agreed... But imagine the look on some snot-nosed punk if you DID turn his bad-boy bass into ABBA's greatest hits.

    3. Re:great idea, but would never work... by shepd · · Score: 1

      >Except most people with a sound system powerfull enough to do that likely have a large disc changer in their trunk, broadcasting over short range to their car radio

      No way. That would sound like hell at only 1/4 watt broadcast power and miss most of the upper frequencies of the audio (even FM is crap for that).

      Most of such systems have cables that are run under the cable runners of the doors.

      Besides... without those cables, how would the CD changer system be powered?

      --
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    4. Re:great idea, but would never work... by strictnein · · Score: 2, Informative

      broadcasting over short range to their car radio.

      As I understood it, the broadcasting antenna is placed right next to the receiving antenna, pretty much overpowering any other signal to that antenna

    5. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry dude, anyone who isn't a moron won't use a fm transmitter to connect their cd changer to their head unit. Why even buy CDs if your going to just throw the quality right the fuck out the window. My CD changer is jacked right in over copper.

    6. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Armando_Mcgillicutty · · Score: 1

      Doubtful... Most people with big powerful sound systems don't use the stock radio that came in their vehicle. And the main reason to use short range broadcast from a cd changer is so you can add a changer to a stock car radio.

    7. Re:great idea, but would never work... by kzinti · · Score: 5, Funny

      Agreed. An iPod mini with a tiny FM transmitter seems an underpowered solution to this problem. A better answer would be a directed electromag pulse to burn out the electronics in the gangsta's CD player, his amps, AND his car's ignition. Then you just need the middle-finger salute as you drive off, leaving him in befuddled silence. HA!

    8. Re:great idea, but would never work... by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I have an iPod and an iTrip, and the article doesn't make much sense based on my experience. The iTrip is an extremely low-power device, and even when you're using it the way it was intended, to broadcast to your own car's antenna, it's actually too weak to override a commercial station. That's why the iTrip isn't all that great in an urban environment, where the whole commercial FM spectrum is packed with stations like sardines in a can.

      First, to become your own pirate broadcast station you'll need to increase the range and signal of your iTrip mini. Turns out, there is an antennae built inside the iTrip mini. All you need to do is remove the top sticker-like protection which hides the antennae and then using tweezers or your fingernail, pull the antennae out. We've found a 20% to 30% increase of range on average.
      Huh? A 25% increase in range is only equivalent to a 50% increase in power (the inverse square law). I can't see how a 50% increase in power is going to matter, when our iTrip has never been able to override even the weakest station on the dial.

    9. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What those cars should do is get a better FM modulator/switch set up to do a better job of disconnecting the antenna when the CD changer is running (most CD changer setups I have seen have their modulator box plugged right into the antenna line between the antenna and the radio, so I don't think that an external signal could modify it much at all)

    10. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      A better answer would be a directed electromag pulse to burn out the electronics in the gangsta's CD player, his amps, AND his car's ignition. Then you just need the middle-finger salute as you drive off, leaving him in befuddled silence. HA!

      But that would leave us at the mercy of half-feline genetically altered supersoldiers who ride bikes and deliver packages. Granted, they are extremely cute and can get into positions even gymnasts have trouble with...

      Forget my objection, I'm with you all the way.

    11. Re:great idea, but would never work... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Say, new product idea:

      White noise. Just crank up whoosh and swoooshes of oceans. Get 11 cars up there and have Oceans 11, hehehe. Instead of calling it "Counter-Boom-Box", call it the "WooshBox for the BOOMPOX".

      Or, play back loud submachine gun fire.

      Or, blast Enya, or even revival church music. Try some bluegrass (not talking about blue marijuana...,heheh), too.

      Another one is the sound of landing planes. Get it REALLY REALLY loud. Maybe it'll pop the circuits in their own car, especially if you have a directional transmitter of short range and aim it at their car...(don't get caught by the FCC or homeland security on a lunch break in your lane...)

      Trail smoke from your car for effect (or, steam, since it's water and MIGHT be a non-ticket display of non-air substance...)

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      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    12. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree with you that anyone who has the aftermarket stereo to loosen your bowels is unlikely to be listening to the radio (tho I guess it does happen sometimes)...

      Your off-the-cuff statement that "lower end frequencies aren't there compared to CD" is incorrect. I've spotted a couple of other "FM doesn't sound as good as CD" type statements as well. Just so yous guys know, FM as a medium is every bit as good as CD, if not better, in a theoretical sense.

      Your average radio station compresses and equalizes their signal so that it'll be easy for your stereo to handle. Additionally the average FM tuner is constructed at a lower price point than the average CD player. Your fidelity will only be as good as your reception allows. And if you're talking about your lighter-plug-in FM modulater hooked up to joe-consumer-electronic then fuhgedaboudit - These devices are not really manufactured with high fidelity in mind.

      That being said, none of these things are the fault of FM Stereo. But most people aren't willing to plunk down for something like this:
      http://www.magnumdynalab.com/

      Hey most radio isn't worth investing in for super awsome sound. But that doesn't mean that FM can't do it.

    13. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if it works better than their "mind control" apparatus and their "free energy" apparatus, these folks have you covered!

    14. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Ass,+Ltd.+Ho! · · Score: 0, Informative
      Just so yous guys know, FM as a medium is every bit as good as CD, if not better, in a theoretical sense.

      Most radio stations are playing a CD over the air. How the fuck, Mr. Moron, are you proposing that modulating, broadcasting, receiving, and demodulating that signal is going to *improve* it. Theoretically, it could be as good. In practice, that is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE YOU FUCKING MORON.

      Jesus fucking christ. Everyone on slashdot is a goddamn idiot.

      --
      HO
    15. Re:great idea, but would never work... by bigredradio · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with this. I took back the iTrip I bought because I couldn't get it to work in my city because of too many stations. (San Diego btw). There is no way it would work to silence someone elses radio.

      Another problem is the suggestion about the health clubs. Alot of them use assisted listening systems that you have to "check out" the headphones. These are on a frequency band outside of normal FM range. I have a transmitter and 4 headsets that I used as an inner-ear monitoring system for the band I played in.

      p.s. That works better than relying on the drunk sound guy to correctly adjust the stage monitors.

      If you want to really do pirate radio, check out a veronica system. You can get 'em on ebay pretty easily.
      http://www.veronica.co.uk/txinfo.htm

    16. Re:great idea, but would never work... by azzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Everyone on slashdot is a goddamn idiot.

      Yes, yes we are.

    17. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Try some bluegrass (not talking about blue marijuana...,heheh)"
      Hey, thanks, I would've never got that one.
    18. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Panaflex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Take it a step further and develop a noise cancellation system that cancels external noise inside a car. That would be patentable.

      Pan

      --
      I said no... but I missed and it came out yes.
    19. Re:great idea, but would never work... by glassjaw+rocks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not to mention incredibly dangerous. What you're sugesting is nearly equal to driving around with earplugs in. Hearing is a vital sense to be used in driving.

      --
      -gjr
    20. Re:great idea, but would never work... by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 1

      The one in my truck is powered via wires into the 12v system that operates everything else in the vehicle. The signal is sent to the factory stereo via FM 88.1. I believe the intention of FM broadcast CD changers & the like is that they are compatible with factory stereos that often do not have provisions for adding components.

    21. Re:great idea, but would never work... by j3110 · · Score: 1

      I can't seem to find the old slashdot article that solved that problem...

      Basically, it was just a site full of this guy who built an EMP gun that used a dish to direct it. It not only killed the radio, but the ignition (at least on modern cars... I don't know how it would on the old mechanical beasts of the 70's). If thugs are aloud to broadcast their undesired air pressure waves, I don't see why I can't send a few harmless electrons back their way. :)

      Sadly, you'ld probably be classified as a terrorist for making such a device these days, since one could undoubtably be used to take down aircraft or satellites if powerful and directed enough (think about an array of old 10' dishes... or in slashdotian, a beowulf cluster of EMP generators).

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    22. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Then you just need the middle-finger salute as you drive off, leaving him in befuddled silence. HA!
      'Til he busts a cap in yo' ass.

      Uhm.

      Foo'.
    23. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't use the Veronica transmitters. They use a frequency doubler system that leaks the 3 x Fo spur. Say your transmitting at 89 MHz, the Veronica's oscillator is set to 44.5 MHz, but the poor filtering of the transmitter "leaks" the 133.5 MHz spur - which is right in the middle of the aeronautical band.

      Systems with poorly designed power amplifiers will actually amplify this spur. Those little Veronica transmitter were only designed for "yardcasting" and not meant to be used in high power setups.

    24. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's so uncool about ABBA... :'(

    25. Re:great idea, but would never work... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Well, I am sure (or, I hope) that someone will encode into all vehicle sound equipment the sounds or IFF signals for sirens, crosswalk coo-koos and chirps.

      I erred in failing to include this train of thought which would restore privacy but not detract from safety of the drivers not wanting to hear boom-boom-boom. Same goes for my threads that mention anything similar.

      David Syes

      --
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    26. Re:great idea, but would never work... by jerw134 · · Score: 1

      Actually, most radio stations are playing WAV files over the air. It's all done with computers these days.

    27. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's so uncool about ABBA...

      Umm... to be fair, their glam-rock derived image may have got them noticed, but it didn't exactly do their credibility any good.

      However, when the music sounds that good, who cares?

      The grandparent post was more implying that ABBA wouldn't suit Mr Bad-Boy-Bass's image than criticizing ABBA IMHO. Hood down, massive bass system in the back, artificially lowered suspension, the works... and Chiquitita coming out of the speakers.

    28. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      you are right...

      but 1000 watts of 2 meter ham radio power transmitting on 145.010 and with a packet radio modem on it told to beacon at that time will make them piss their pants with a very fricking lound "EEYAAAAOOOOWWWK" out of their speakers.

      it really works great. and nothing like lots of RF to get into the crappy car stereo's and amp's these wankers buy.

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    29. Re:great idea, but would never work... by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      And if the bassidiot is listening to a CD???

    30. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree, I'm an A.C. ABBA listener. :)

    31. Re:great idea, but would never work... by (C)0N0(R) · · Score: 1

      Generally the signal is not "broadcast", it is sent to the antenna lead-in to the radio over a RF modulator.

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    32. Re:great idea, but would never work... by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      Agreed. An iPod mini with a tiny FM transmitter seems an underpowered solution to this problem. A better answer would be a directed electromag pulse to burn out the electronics in the gangsta's CD player, his amps, AND his car's ignition. Then you just need the middle-finger salute as you drive off, leaving him in befuddled silence. HA!

      Well, if by "drive off" you mean "sit there like an idiot while he beats the crap out of you."

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    33. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or better yet Denis Leary's "I'm an asshole"

    34. Re:great idea, but would never work... by (C)0N0(R) · · Score: 1

      Actually not next-to but in line with the radio antenna cable, then when a user-definable (usually 88.3) frequency is tuned AND the cd player is ON, the cd is heard. Usually the tuner is located in the dashboard, and the RF modulator (much like a game console) is stuffed behind the dash, although on some Cadillacs (possibly others) the tuner is in the trunk, causing the need for antenna cable extensions to and from the trunk to the dashboard- where the cd controls are usually located. (this was my experience as an auto-electronics installer during much of the '90s)

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    35. Re:great idea, but would never work... by karmatic · · Score: 1

      http://www.voltsamps.com

    36. Re:great idea, but would never work... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Well, I am sure (or, I hope) that someone will encode into all vehicle sound equipment the sounds or IFF signals for sirens, crosswalk coo-koos and chirps.

      Not to mention other traffic, horns, railroads, ...

      (I can think of more, but they start getting out there... people screaming help, accidents, etc.)

    37. Re:great idea, but would never work... by jlaxson · · Score: 1

      Two things...

      First of all, I can see you de-sensing their receiver (but 2m isn't all that close, 6m is only ~40mhz away), but how/why would a broadcast-band radio be tuned to amateur frequencies?

      Second, 1kw rf amps consume no small amount of power. You want to drive around with one in your car?

      --
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    38. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to buy that 100 watt linear RF amplifier.

    39. Re:great idea, but would never work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      people screaming help
      If they can scream, they're still alive, and if they're still alive, they can get their own damn help.

    40. Re:great idea, but would never work... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Or, Sweet Polly Purebread (Oh Hwere ohh Hwere has my undergod gnone)...

      Or, for the worst kind of music to try to filter out, successfully...

      Christian Gangsta ARP (Calling all Gods, Galling all Cods) (For a new RFC)

      Ouch, I meant, "Rap" (136)

      Porn Groove (109)
      Booty Bass (107)

      Or, for the ones I combined:

      Blue Grass
      Ska
      Blue Ska (hmmm, like 24's 60-seconds pun, Blue Ska/s for Blue Sky/Skies
      Revival Bluegrass
      Revival Ska

      Christian Fusion
      Christian Trance
      Christian Death Metal
      Christian Funk
      Thrash Metal
      Christian Terror (666)
      or, the undulating culmination...

      Terror Polka
      Easy-Listenin' Christian Pr0n
      Easy-Listenin' Gangsta Pr0n
      Christian (Polka) Pr0n Groove
      Terror (Polka) Pr0n Groove (Polka ALways gets a bad rap, ehh?)
      (Hip) Christian Terror Hop (Played at I-Hop)
      Terror Booty Bass
      Booty Bass Terror

      Hardcore, Power Ballad, A Capella, Duet, Freestyle, Rhythmic Soul, Slow Jam, Porn Groove, Tango, Booty Bass, Acoustic, Sonata Chamber music (129, 117, 123, 120, 119, 118, 113, 111, 109, 107, 99, 105, 104)

      Now, THOSE are some helluva Prime Numbers (less 99, 104, 120, 118, 104???)

      and any other ocmbination, heheh, combination of Freedb.or encodes...

      http://www.freedb.org/src/freedb-proto5-update

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  7. YAY! by theJerk242 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Alright! A whole new way to piss people off behind the wheel! My fog horn idea is nothing compared to this! ;)

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    Red Bull gave me wings and I flew into the ceiling fan.
    1. Re:YAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Alright! A whole new way to piss people off behind the wheel! My fog horn idea is nothing compared to this! ;)


      Actually I've been looking at putting one of these in my (bulletproof) back window to send a unique, personalized message to some people.
    2. Re:YAY! by theJerk242 · · Score: 0

      YES! HAhahahahahaha! I want one too! I think the best message for one of those would be: "If you can read this...then it's too late."

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      Red Bull gave me wings and I flew into the ceiling fan.
  8. no, by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the people playing gangsta rap at insane volumes are NOT using the radio to do it. CDs and/or mp3s.

    1. Re:no, by mfifer · · Score: 3, Funny

      the people playing gangsta rap at insane volumes are NOT using the radio to do it. CDs and/or mp3s.

      Plus, they're not the ones who annoy me...

      It's those commies and their NPR...

      ;-)

    2. Re:no, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 Insightful!!!!

    3. Re:no, by Radon+Knight · · Score: 1
      the people playing gangsta rap at insane volumes

      Sorry if this seems offtopic, but I've always wondered about this. Given that very low-end frequencies are felt rather than heard, does this mean that people listening to gangsta rap at volumes louder than a Who concert really aren't damaging their ears? So far, my one consolation has been that they are going to find themselves at the ripe old age of twenty-two basically stone-deaf because of their fondness for cars that go boom.

    4. Re:no, by croddy · · Score: 1
      frequencies down to 35 and even 25 Hz are heard by most people, and not felt. additionally, most speaker cabinets and cones aren't tuned to reproduce inaudible frequencies.

      it was a nice thought though.

  9. A better title... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "You can use radio waves to transmit music!"

    After all, this can be done with just about any source. An iPod is not required. In fact you can get parts to make a much stronger FM transmiter at radio shack for far less that can be used with any MP3/tape/record/8track player.

    --

    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    1. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's only cool if Apple or Linux is involved!

    2. Re:A better title... by JoeNiner · · Score: 1

      Wow, you said 8 track player :)

      --
      Mod Me, Bee-yotch!!!
    3. Re:A better title... by garcia · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's your run of the mill iPod your Slashdot! article.

      I understand that they are a great device and I have even thought once or twice about buying one but I certainly don't think that every article that gets put into the queue with an iPod in the title should be accepted.

      Let's show some class and end the blatant iPod advertising.

    4. Re:A better title... by kublai+kahn · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the fact that, if you make something yourself, you can broadcast over a wider band and not have to guess what station to block. Of course, this is probably against the law. The iTrip itself may be ok, however, but not if you're in the UK. According to the BBC, the iTrip is deemed to be illegal in the UK because "using it is akin to setting up your own pirate radio station." At least according to that BBC article, there is no restriction on the use of the iTrip in the USA.

    5. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD PARENT UP! This iPod zealotry that goes on here is ridiculous. Repeat after me: it is a portable music player and that is all! The iPod is not a way of life! There are plenty of other portable music players that are being released that have as many or more features than the iPod. The story could be done with a variety of different hardware that would be smaller and substantially cheaper than the iPod.

      With all the ridiculous Apple stories posted lately I'm starting to wonder if Apple sales marketing droids are allowed to submit stories directly to slashdot and have them submitted instantaneously.

      Remember, slashdot.org should not be an openly biased advertising campaign for Apple.

    6. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Why do I have this feeling that you'd suddenly keep your gaping piehole shut if this were a Linux-shilling article instead?

    7. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you play 40 GB worth of MP3 with that radio shack solution of yours? I didn't think so. This article is meant to show yet another use for the iPod.

    8. Re:A better title... by joggle · · Score: 1

      That's ridiculous. I made a little AM station from a kit from RadioShack when I was 12. What would they do? Bust down the doors and smash it rather than waiting for the bullies at school?

    9. Re:A better title... by k31bang · · Score: 1

      shhhhhhh don't tell people that. You might get listed as a tear-or-ist and be taking a long vaction.

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    10. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why do I have this feeling that you'd suddenly keep your gaping piehole shut if this were a Linux-shilling article instead?"

      I have no idea why you have that feeling but I do know that you are wrong and just made a stupid assumption. Amazing that someone modded you informative as you have no basis or idea about what OS I prefer.

    11. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, but I can play 60GB. don't forget that the iPod has a much lower disk capacity than the leading portable MP3 players.

    12. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Can you play 40 GB worth of MP3 with that radio shack solution of yours? I didn't think so."

      Well then you thought wrong. Do some research on some of the other mp3 players before you respond. Here are a few links that I gathered in less than 20 seconds on google.
      I could continue as there are many more, many of them also offer more features than the iPod. Many of those mp3 players can be extended to provide the same functionality that this article is talking about. This radio transmitter could be made out of much cheaper parts and be made much more stronger and all for much less than the cost of the iPod. You truly are clueless.
    13. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why do I have this feeling that you'd suddenly keep your gaping piehole shut if this were a Linux-shilling . . . . "
      Who modded this informative? Poster just made a dumb comment about something he knows nothing about.

    14. Re:A better title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. The Neuros has a built in FM transmitter and has an 80GB version available... Gotta hate the iPod fanboys, whatever happenend to the good ol' Nintendo ones?

    15. Re:A better title... by Digital11 · · Score: 1

      Finally... I wondered how long it would take for someone to actually mention the Neuros. I just finished my rf-jack mod on my Neuros tonight. Once I build a decent antenna tomorrow I'll be able to broadcast up to about 100 ft.

      However, I must say that this article is nothing but a troll. It is absolutely impossible to use an iTrip (or a Neuros for that matter) to overpower a commerical station. After modding my Neuros, I CAN override a station, but ONLY if I'm within 6-12 inches of the receiving device's antenna.

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  10. Atricle Text by PalmerEldritch42 · · Score: 4, Informative
    It is getting slow now, so in case of /.ing, here is the text:

    How-To Tuesday: Make your own Pirate Radio Station with an iPod

    Posted Jun 15, 2004, 11:07 AM ET by Phillip Torrone

    Related entries: Portable Audio, Wireless

    This was going to be "How-To increase the range of your iTrip mini". But after playing around with the new iTrip mini, the FM broadcasting accessory for the iPod (our review here) our little minds got working on some ideas. We thought we might be able to make the range of Griffin's iTrip mini a little better if took it apart and exposed the antenna, turns out we could. And then we thought, hey- we could use a couple iPods to broadcast something we wanted to get out there, perhaps not "should" that is, but could. So that was our motivation, and here's the How-To.

    Ingredients:

    * 1 iPod mini

    * 1 iTrip mini

    * Optional: Addition iPods, iTalks and iTrips

    Getting Started

    First, to become your own pirate broadcast station you'll need to increase the range and signal of your iTrip mini. Turns out, there is an antennae built inside the iTrip mini. All you need to do is remove the top sticker-like protection which hides the antennae and then using tweezers or your fingernail, pull the antennae out. We've found a 20% to 30% increase of range on average. This likely voids the warranty, so there, we said it.

    Next up, if you're using the iTrip mini, then you know that you can install all the stations on the dial to broadcast on. At first we we're really sure we'd ever use them, but now we have good reason. So make sure you've installed all the stations, on the go you might need them to switch to. Remember, the iTrip is a FM broadcasting device, intended to broadcast 10 to 30 feet to a FM radio.

    Next, choose your broadcast, it can be any song or a spoken word MP3, don't worry we have a few suggestions. A lot depends on the situation you're in.

    Pirate Broadcasts

    We usually keep a couple tracks of silence ready to go, ever get stuck at a stop light for like 10 minutes and the dude in the next car is blasting the radio? With the super easy iPod interface you can quickly get to the station he's on and send over whatever you want, a couple gentle ocean waves or birds usually works out great.

    If you've ever gone to the Gym, or starred in to one from the outside- you'll notice the TVs are muted and set to broadcast on specific FM frequencies, folks then tune in their radio headsets to whatever station to listen to the audio as they exercise. Now we're not suggesting you go around and broadcast over CNN or anything, but we think broadcasting "Aliens have landed today, the President and UN will be making an announcement immediately" could be quite fun. We'll be trying this out with our gym pals who are usually up for a good gag.

    There are other times where you simply need to broadcast back. Let's say you're at the park, enjoying a nice quiet day with your family- then comes along someone blasting the radio. We've found broadcasting a silent track tends to work nicely, sure you need to be within 30 to 40 feet, but no one will even suspect that their FM broadcast is getting usurped by you.

    Advanced Pirate Radio Broadcasting techniques

    We've also discovered another fun example. If you use the iTalk, Griffin's voice recorder accessory with 2g/3g iPod you can record your pirate broadcast on the fly, pop in the iTrip and start broadcasting. Usually pretending to be an omnipotent being and asking folks to build a water proof car, drive across the English Channel with two of every gadget gets some interesting reactions.

    Now, if you really get in to this- you could easily increase the range even more, google around for ways to do this- we're working on a few and will let you know too. You can additionally use multiple iPods, when you're broadcasting something like a silent track, you and a pal can cover more area and really surround the FM receiver. And finally, there are also a lot of other things which use FM that you can discover and broadcast to, happy hunting.

    This concludes our broadcast. Send comments and ideas to torrone@gmail.com

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    :wq!

    1. Re:Atricle Text by Richardsonke1 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  11. Great for radio, but . . . by Maradine · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Broadcast as hard as you can, but I doubt you'll be insinuating you signal into their CD-player's wiring. Good luck.

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  12. ever want to silence a website... by ErikRed1488 · · Score: 5, Funny

    here's how.

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    I was not touched there by an angel.
  13. Re:Very cool idea... by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    Very cool idea but somebody when it works on Harley-Davidsons

    Umm . . yea . .sure . . whatever you say ;)

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  14. that's what I love by Savatte · · Score: 5, Funny

    urban assault vehicle beside you at the stop light, pounding out gangster angst

    This is why I come to slashdot: news without bias or snide remarks

    1. Re:that's what I love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How exactly does this show bias?

    2. Re:that's what I love by e9th · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wait until the election approaches.

    3. Re:that's what I love by UnixRawks · · Score: 2

      GNAA, where are you when we need you??

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    4. Re:that's what I love by fermion · · Score: 1
      Especially since most of the urban assault vehicles I come across have sticker proclaiming and radio spouted contemporary christian music.

      Just part of g-ds plan fill the work with joyful noise, and smoke out the guy next to you, of course.

      --
      "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    5. Re:that's what I love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GNAA, where are you when we need you??
      Right where you left them.

  15. Silence a website by njcoder · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Ever want to silence that urban assualt website? You can now, here's how!

  16. But it's just FM Radio by TexasDex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a shame that this doesn't work to silence CD players and tape decks. Or sattelite radio, for that matter.

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    The Cheese Stands Alone.
    1. Re:But it's just FM Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so I could shut up the guy in the pickup truck with a gun rack listening to Limbaugh.

      I'm confused. Which amendment would you like to repeal, the first or the second?

      Seriously: you're a fucktard. Freedom of speech as long as you agree with it. So common of the modern, uneducated liberal.

    2. Re:But it's just FM Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, I'd settle for something that worked on AM radio, so I could shut up the guy in the pickup truck with a gun rack listening to Limbaugh.

      Sure, but how can you tell the gun rack is really listening to Limbaugh?

    3. Re:But it's just FM Radio by rk2z · · Score: 1

      it will work against satellite radio if they are using an FM modulator to broadcast the signal from the satellite decoder to their car radio because they didn't by a new satellite compatible deck, or they have a factory wired system that is too much of a bitch to rewire/replace.

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    4. Re:But it's just FM Radio by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It's a shame that this doesn't work to silence CD players and tape decks. Or sattelite radio, for that matter."

      Just remember there's nothing preventing you from being a victim of this sort of thing.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    5. Re:But it's just FM Radio by metlin · · Score: 2, Funny

      EMP guns, baby. Fry that stereo system of the badass gansta, and watch the sparks fly - literally! ;-)

    6. Re:But it's just FM Radio by TexasDex · · Score: 1

      Acutally, yes there is. See, I'm not an obnoxious prick who blasts my stereo at full volume. I keep my stereo at a reasonable volume, except every once in a while on country roads when nobody is around for miles...

      --
      The Cheese Stands Alone.
    7. Re:But it's just FM Radio by Inuchance · · Score: 1

      But don't stay to watch the bullets fly.

    8. Re:But it's just FM Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who needs to stay?

      Simply drive an EMP hardened vehicle (or carbureted vehicle), and smile at them as they call for a tow truck.

    9. Re:But it's just FM Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, but how can you tell the gun rack is really listening to Limbaugh?

      Perhaps because inanimate objects are just about the only things stupid enough to listen to him?

  17. You could be a fool much cheaper back in my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    These kids gotta spend iPod levels of bling to best good old Mr. Microphone.

  18. the article by jdkane · · Score: 4, Informative

    Use the cached Google version while the site is being /.ed.

  19. mod parent up by tanguyr · · Score: 1

    He's right on - this isn't a clever hack, it's inane.

    --
    #!/usr/bin/english
  20. Naw, I just by confused+one · · Score: 4, Funny

    use my portable directional EMP generator that fries their rig. Then I can enjoy the silence while pointing and laughing as I drive away.

    1. Re:Naw, I just by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      correction:

      "Naw, I just use my portable directional EMP generator that fries their rig. Then I can enjoy the silence while pointing and laughing as I sit there in my immobile vehicle."

    2. Re:Naw, I just by salimfadhley · · Score: 1

      Actually I think the rig would be fine - the silence would be caused by electromagnetic destruction of your own car's electrical system. Chances are that your in-car entertainment and engine management are burnt out and useless. The next time this car moves is when the tow-truck takes it to the scrap-yard.

      moral: do not operate portable directional EMP generator in close proximity to vehicle electronics.

      Of course, you could have operated said device out-side of your car but you didnt mention that... did you! :-)

    3. Re:Naw, I just by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the original poster, but I have a car that would be no problem. It is a 3rd generation Corvette which has no engine management computer (carburated 350 V8), and the (crappy aftermarket Blaupunkt) stereo is already broken (haven't gotten around to taking apart the dash ro replace it yet), so what the hell.

    4. Re:Naw, I just by confused+one · · Score: 1
      Lets see... It's directional (can aim the pulse). And I don't have no stinking engine management computer in my pickup truck =)

      Of course, the police might question the turret mounted in the bed...

    5. Re:Naw, I just by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it still has an electrical system. An EMP would still affect your engine as it would ionize the metal in the wires (and probably fry your ignition coil).

      What is needed is a diesel which doesn't depend on an electrical system to operate (except maybe for the glow plug to get it started).

    6. Re:Naw, I just by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Just use a well shielded HERF gun. EMP is too dangerous anyway, it involves a timed series of explosions to destroy a current carrying coil. While it's directional, it's not very directional. Also, why make it strong enough to destroy the engine components? Just a weak signal strong enough to kill the sterio is all that's needed.

      --
      Not a sentence!
    7. Re:Naw, I just by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But still, an EMP of sufficient maginute to fry non-hardned chips and that only won't fry a coil or any wires relating to running an engine.

      They already handle 10X the current and voltage.

  21. Point? by Scorchsta · · Score: 0

    What's the point of transmitting crappy quality music in a 50 or so foot radius? If your friends want to listen to, just hook up some speakers. Some people are just so lazy...

  22. Where I came from.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    frequencies jamming is a very serious offence.

    1. Re:Where I came from.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what are you going to do about it? Throw a fit that a 50mw transmitter is preventing you from listening to the latest ear shattering and inane rap music for a 30 foot radius? Boo hoo.

    2. Re:Where I came from.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Track it down, or at least make note and bug the authorities about it. In the USA it is illegal for those little part 15 devices (unlicensed transmitters) to block out or interfer a licensed transmitter. I want to say I recall fines being the 4-5 digit range.

      Anyway, I am not sure about the transmitter in this article, but the last little transmitter thing I got could be blocked by the licensed radio stations, even when I was using it in my car less then 10 feet from my receiving antenna.

    3. Re:Where I came from.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Name a person who has been fined for using this type of transmitter. Name one!

      You cant!

      Go crawl back in your hole troll.

  23. directed EMF pulse *much* better by l2b · · Score: 3, Funny

    it will kill all electronics in its path - regardless of radio, CD, tape, 8-track ;-)

    [EMF=elecro-magnetic frequency]

    1. Re:directed EMF pulse *much* better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      you're UNBELIEVABLE...

    2. Re:directed EMF pulse *much* better by stud9920 · · Score: 1

      Wow ! You're gonna emit a frequency ! dude !

      It's EMP, the P standing for pulse

    3. Re:directed EMF pulse *much* better by Bandwidth_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      EMF is electro-motive force. EMP is electromagnetic pulse. Try looking up explosively pumped flux compression generators or vircators (or any high pulsed power microwave (no, not your home microwave 2.45Ghz setup) transmitter. It'll do you some good.

    4. Re:directed EMF pulse *much* better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then you'll be put in jail for destruction of property. Cool!

  24. Great way to get yourself shot. by downbad · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Hey, there's one of those nerds with white headphones and a 5ft. antenna sticking out of his gameboy."

    Not to mention the fact that it's probably illegal. DMCA, FCC, RIAA - need I go on?

    1. Re:Great way to get yourself shot. by slashjames · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, the DMCA wouldn't apply in this case because you aren't breaking encryption to insert your material. However, the FCC and RIAA would be most interested in your activities.

    2. Re:Great way to get yourself shot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FCC... the others mentioned have not power.

    3. Re:Great way to get yourself shot. by Bearpaw · · Score: 1
      Not to mention the fact that it's probably illegal. DMCA, FCC, RIAA - need I go on?

      And we all know how important it is to always obey the law, don't we? Gosh, yes, we're all such law-abiding citizens here on Slashdot.

    4. Re:Great way to get yourself shot. by Geldon · · Score: 2, Informative

      FCC - The FCC is not going to hunt you down for broadcasting 15 feet with an iTrip. If doing so was illegal, the device would be illegal.

      RIAA - They don't care unless you are broadcasting their music, and unless they have recently copyrighted "silence", you are okay with them. If they HAVE copyrighted "silence", I'm moving to Canada.

      DMCA - WTF? Where did you get that from? How is upping the range of your iTrip by 5 feet considered reverse engineering software?

    5. Re:Great way to get yourself shot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      re: Geldon's statement "If they HAVE copyrighted "silence", I'm moving to Canada."

      Start packing.

      Ever heard of "4:33" by John Cage? Amazon even has audio samples in "in" convenient Real Audio & Windows Media Player for you to to hear...

  25. mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashodted, Mirror here:
    Ipod mini

  26. Hey! by karniv0re · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ever want to silence the urban assault vehicle beside you at the stop light, pounding out gangster angst at orthodontia-rattling volumes?

    What if I am that guy?

    1. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you can broadcast your tunes to other cars, and piss them off even more. Come on, get with it man!

    2. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you are eligible for the grand prize! Simply state your home address and the hours you expect to be home. The prize wagon will be by shortly thereafter to deliver your brand new BEA-Ting, the latest in aluminum apparel.
      operators are standing by

    3. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then kill yourself. Seriously. Do it. Now.

    4. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you need to arrange a meeting with a certain Mr. Cluestick.

    5. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      A threat from a Slashdot nerd? I'll bet he's petrified.

      Of course, he's also a Slashdot nerd, so at least one thing is for sure -- it would be a very, very boring confrontation.

    6. Re:Hey! by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      What if I am that guy?

      Well then you're being a dick and I don't give a sh1t what happens to you.

      I mean, if you gave a rat's ass about me, you'd turn it down, but you don't. So why should anyone care about what happens to you? I hope someone punches you in mouth and teaches you how to share the atmosphere with others.

    7. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you need to half the volume on your stereo when you stop next to other vehicles.

    8. Re:Hey! by kunudo · · Score: 1

      Then you need to be smacked. Here, I'll do it.

    9. Re:Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no way! i'd roll a 19 on my 32 sided die and my level 64 barbarian would TOTALLY TRASH his level 3 dark elf. snort.
      e
      good call though.

    10. Re:Hey! by Skater · · Score: 1

      You insensitive clod!

      (I'm pretty sure you're joking - but the other responses don't seem to get that. So, enjoy this message in the manner it's intended - good-natured.)

      --RJ

    11. Re:Hey! by bozendoka · · Score: 0

      Flamebait? Flamebait?!?

      I mean, sure it was obvious and not insanely funny, but c'mon!
      Oh well, who needs good karma anyway, right?

      --
      "You will soon be more aware of your growing awareness." - My first recursive fortune cookie!
  27. This just in.. by Eric(b0mb)Dennis · · Score: 0

    The Dept. of Homeland Security has banned the iPod (all versions) and the iPod mini for reasons of national security. Citizens are encouraged to take their iPod to their local government office for destruction.

    At. General Ashcroft was quoted saying, "We will be releasing a new line of portable media players called 09-DRM-SCO-4758KM. This new portable media player will also feature a built in GPS navigation and broadcast feature to keep YOU out of trouble"

    --
    Excuse me, I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean
    1. Re:This just in.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cue:
      In Soviet USA, Broadcast-regulated 09-DRM-SCO-4758KM keeps trouble out of YOU!

      *ducks*

  28. Slashdotted Already? by jcain · · Score: 2, Funny

    Must be running their server off an iPod mini.

  29. Damn /. effect! by presarioD · · Score: 1

    Everybody can we please all form a line? Stop clicking on the site!

    Yes, mam the site is currently /.ed. No mam we don't know how long it will take.

    Please can we all form a line and click in consecutive order?

    Hey you, I heard you! You clicked before you time! Stop it!

    Here we go! Number 54? 54 in the house? 54 can click now! OK! 53? 53?

    --
    Yam, yam, uga booga, yam, yam, yade, yade, uga booga, yam, yam, yade, yade
  30. The major problem with heavy bass is.. by Rylfaeth · · Score: 1

    more often than not, at least in my experience (speaking as somebody who also has a stereo worth 3x the value of his car and can shake fillings out of your teeth), when people roll up next to you and have their systems cranked, their windows tend to be rolled up. All I hear next to them is the bass, which sounds TERRIBLE by itself. As their fellow human being, they should do me the courtesy of at least letting me listen to Petey Pablo with them during the 30 seconds it takes for the light to change from red to green.
    -Rylfaeth

    1. Re:The major problem with heavy bass is.. by mc6809e · · Score: 1

      Windows may matter, but not much.

      The atmosphere happens to act as a giant lowpass filter. That means over a distance you hear bass long after higher frequencies have faded.

      And as someone whose suffered the effects of this, I have to ask: do people put these things in their cars just to be assholes? Seriously, what's the motivation? Isn't it obvious you're disturbing others around you? Is it that you just don't care?

    2. Re:The major problem with heavy bass is.. by Rylfaeth · · Score: 1

      Honestly? I put a system in my car solely because it sounds WAY better than a handful of pussy factory speakers that'll disintegrate after a few months of bass-heavy music. I like it when I can feel the bass punching the back of my seat or shaking my car like a massage chair at Sharper Image :P

      With regards to whether or not people with them are trying to be assholes, I can only speak for myself but I'm not trying to be a hardass or front for the ladies or whatever ... if it's 5:15pm and I pull up to a red light where I'm surrounded by clearly-overworked adults (I being a clearly-underworked adult), I turn my stereo down so they don't have to listen to it. It's common courtesy... but the second I roll up next to an Escalade sittin on sprewells that's clearly calling attention to itself for the sake of image alone, I ain't turnin shit down.
      -Rylfaeth

    3. Re:The major problem with heavy bass is.. by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Would it be of any worth to use an undulating, persistent drone or humming tone?

      Imagine the Star Trek tune where Spock and the Horta's minds are joined. Yeh, use that galactic, spiritual, Vulcan-mind-meld music...

      Or, just switch to the Kirk-vs-some-foe music...

      DS

      --
      Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    4. Re:The major problem with heavy bass is.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'm sure your suffering has been epic.

      Nobody has suffered more than you have suffered.

      You are truly the patron saint of sufferers.

      You are the martyr of bass.

      Or, maybe you could grow up.

  31. Karma friendly google cache link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here ya go.

  32. Hmm... by thephotoman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are definite legal issues with that. I advise not getting caught.

    However, I generally find that most people who drive in my area use CDs or MP3s, as the radio simply sucks in this area. While they may play Viagra and penis-enlargment ads in D/FW, in Houston, they just babble incoherently...or play nothing but Britney Spears or Crap-Country. Even more, they're killing our sole classical station to make way for a Christian contemporary station (something else we don't need). Given this situation, it's highly unlikely that this plan would affect that many people around me.

    --
    Haec merda tauri est. Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
    1. Re:Hmm... by argent · · Score: 1

      KUHF is going Xtian? Well, that's a turnabout, I'm still pissed that when the last "only classical station" in Houston (KLEF) went under, they more or less took over KUHF and turned a good Jazz station into a mediocre Classical one.

    2. Re:Hmm... by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      No, KUHF is NPR. I'm refering to KRTS (92.1), which is commercial. Besides, KUHF is administered directly by the University of Houston, so KLEF's people probably didn't take over directly.

      --
      Haec merda tauri est. Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
    3. Re:Hmm... by argent · · Score: 1

      KLEF didn't take over directly. They just 'donated' their music library, corporate sponsors, and IIRC their key staff. The effect on the station was pretty much the same.

      But if you're not talking about KUHF, then you probably shouldn't have said "the only classical music station in Houston".

      I wonder where they'll dump their library? :)

    4. Re:Hmm... by thephotoman · · Score: 1

      Well, I hardly consider KUHF to be a real classical station, as they run NPR programming more often than classical music anymore.

      --
      Haec merda tauri est. Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
    5. Re:Hmm... by argent · · Score: 1

      They're sure as heck not a Jazz station, so if the folks who overran the old KUHF so they'd still have a classical station didn't get what they want either, that's desperately sad...

  33. Re:Very cool idea... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 1

    Dammit! It was so cool IN MY HEAD!

  34. Help!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My name is Timmy O' Toole I've fallen down a well!
    http://www.snpp.com/episodes/8F11.html

  35. You are missing the potential by kabocox · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm surprised that /. isn't using this as a means to pick up girls. You'd want to pick out the one or 2 stations that you like, then during the breaks between songs, insert your "dating ad."

    Remember to do this to only the stations that you like!

  36. here's REALLY how to do it boys 'n girls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.primeportal.net/laws_rocket.htm

    Now that took a fucking slashdot genius to figure out!

  37. Be careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    a 100 milliwatt transmitter vs a 100MegaWatt 300ft RF tower
    good luck with that

    and if iam a gangster and i spot whos doing it, what do you think will happen ?

  38. I have a better idea... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

    Take the iPod and an RF amplifier and plug it into some unsuspecting soul's power jack, in range of another unsuspecting soul's WAN. Send it a music stream via some distant proxy server. Presto, a pirate radio station that'll broadcast for weeks, if not months, before it was discovered, and the FCC would almost certainly never trace it back to you.

  39. Great! by Le+Marteau · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's GREAT! And I know just the tune I'm going to broadcast into those ghetto blasters: The Asshole Song, by Dennis Leary.

    --
    Mod down people who tell people how to mod in their sigs
  40. Internet Radio over FM! by ic0n0 · · Score: 0

    I think it would be very interesting to be able to broadcast internet radio stations over fm signals, and probably more useful. I mean some Shoutcast stations play far better music without the commercials then the standard legal FM stations. I mean given a strong local signal you could pipe internet radio throughout your house without having to wire all kinds of cat5 or have a computer hooked up to every radio.

  41. heh by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Use an iPod Mini to Broadcast Pirate Radio"

    Heh. I love stories like this. Makes me feel like Evil MacGuyver.

    --
    "Derp de derp."
    1. Re:Heh by Jardine · · Score: 1

      (start on 85.1 and add .2 until you hit 105.9 or something)

      Why not go to the end of the common fm dial and go to 107.9?

    2. Re:Heh by Ignignot · · Score: 1

      I was guessing, that was what the or something was for :-( Don't listen to the radio myself.

      --
      I submitted this story last night, and it didn't get posted.
    3. Re:Heh by Q2Serpent · · Score: 1

      If you have an iTrip, it comes with one mp3 for each station you can tune it to. Why not fire up a sound editor (like Audacity) and put together the ultimate mp3 - one that plays the next station's mp3 clip each second so you can quickly figure out which station the other person is on. Just pause the mp3 when his/her radio goes silent and you are good to broadcast.

  42. Now if by NIK282000 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...you really wanted to silence their raidio you would use an directed EMP to take out the radio, car computer and the rest of the street. This is also usefull when some has their cell phone on the high way.

    --
    Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all
  43. Heh by Ignignot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's a cool idea: take your laptop, hook it up to an fm transmitter, program the transmitter to cycle through radio stations (start on 85.1 and add .2 until you hit 105.9 or something) and then play a sound byte in sync with each station, once. (example: gov'ner arnold saying "who is your daddy, and what does he do?") If you were sitting in traffic, watch other drivers start laughing or get weirded out.

    --
    I submitted this story last night, and it didn't get posted.
  44. Ever want to? by substatica · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ever want to fill the Volkswagen Bug beside you at the stop light with pounding out gangster angst at orthodontia-rattling volumes?

  45. FreeCache by Henry+Stern · · Score: 1

    It's a shame that people still have to resort to the Google cache when there is a great caching service, FreeCache provided by the Internet Archive. Just make your link like http://freecache.org/http://whatever...

    1. Re:FreeCache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried the story link at FreeCache and they don't have it. In this case, it would be a shame to resort to the FreeCache. Kudos to the Google cache!

    2. Re:FreeCache by pyrrhonist · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's a shame that people still resort to posting FreeCache links, in situations where it will not work. From the FreeCache FAQ:
      What files are being served by FreeCache?

      FreeCache can only serve files that are on a web site. If the link to a file on that web site goes away, so will the file in the FreeCaches. Also, there is a minimum size requirement. We don't bother with files smaller than 5MB, as the saved bandwidth does not outweight the protocol overhead in those cases.

      --
      Show me on the doll where his noodly appendage touched you.
    3. Re:FreeCache by Jardine · · Score: 1

      t's a shame that people still have to resort to the Google cache when there is a great caching service, FreeCache provided by the Internet Archive. Just make your link like http://freecache.org/http://whatever..

      There's a reason people don't link to freecache for articles. The minimum sized file freecache will cache is 5 MB. Great for videos, some audio files, and huge uncompressed images, but lousy for text smaller than The Complete Works of William Shakespeare.

  46. Hey! I'm from Nebraska! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm offended, but my car stereo is LOUD!
    Where do I need to be driving in Oakland with my iPod?

    I live in Atlanta now.

  47. Out of curiosity... by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... how many people with those huge stereos didn't have the money left over for the CD player and so are actually using the radio? (Not many.)

    --
    I do security
    1. Re:Out of curiosity... by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Great. I should have figured this comment would be terribly redunant. Feel free to mod me down. I deserve it.

      --
      I do security
  48. I only just bought my IPOD and had to RMA it by Typingsux · · Score: 2, Funny
    It overheated when Slashdotted.

    --
    The above post is an editorial, the poster cannot and will not be held responsible for all or in part for it's contents
  49. google cache by Insanity5902 · · Score: 0

    here is google's cache click here

  50. Uhhhh.... by caffeineboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How the fvck did that get posted?

    Let's forget about the fm capture effect for a minute (the most powerful station on a signal will be the only one de-modulated) and think. Don't most people with loud amps just have a CD player with "Ultrabass volume IX" or something rather than actually listening to the radio?

    Is this slashdot or some shitty zine put together by highschool age "hackers"?

    --
    +++ ATH0 +++
    1. Re:Uhhhh.... by Oliver+Defacszio · · Score: 1
      Is this slashdot or some shitty zine put together by highschool age "hackers"?

      Yes.

      --

      -
      Inventor of the term 'pardon my French'.
    2. Re:Uhhhh.... by thinkninja · · Score: 1
      Is this slashdot or some shitty zine put together by highschool age "hackers"?

      I thought slashdot had become some shitty zine by and for highschool age "hackers". Or maybe the readership is getting older while the editors live in some sort of adolescent fantasy world where stuff like this is actually "news for nerds" (wow, story is about an ipod!!! coolz! must post it to the frontpage!).
      --
      "The number of Unix installations has grown to ten, with more expected." (Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd ed.; june 1972)
    3. Re:Uhhhh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Is this slashdot or some shitty zine put together by highschool age "hackers"?"

      Lately I would say the latter.

    4. Re:Uhhhh.... by carrier+lost · · Score: 1


      (Had to reply because of your sig, brother)

      ...most people with loud amps just have a CD player...


      Don't a lot of CD changers use FM transmission?


      MjM

    5. Re:Uhhhh.... by caffeineboy · · Score: 1

      Most CD changers that are worth a damn, even if they use FM modulation to tie into the car's system, don't do it over free space, but rather through a tee in the antenna feed line. From there we are back to the FM capture effect - I don't care if you pull that little antenna out 4 feet, it's not going to be more signal than the one injected directly into the antenna feed line.

      --
      +++ ATH0 +++
  51. This isn't anti-sound. by kabocox · · Score: 4, Informative

    What the poster really wants is anti-sound.
    Silence Machine Article 1

    Silence> Machine Article 2

    1. Re:This isn't anti-sound. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People have been working on that technology for years and years. I remember seeing a working prototype back in the late 80's.

      The thing is, they just don't work. There are too many variables and if the "anti-noise" is even slightly off then it will just make more noise. The only time this does work is when the sound is 100% consistant (in reality nothing is) and the microphone and speakers are perfectly positioned tuned.

      I've never once seen a system that would actually work as effective anti-noise.

    2. Re:This isn't anti-sound. by surprise_audit · · Score: 1
      The problem with that approach is that you're not penalising the fucking retard who just doesn't give a crap about anyone else.

      It's like the opt-out schemes people keep on proposing for spam, telemarketing and the rest of that crap. Somehow it's perfectly fine for someone to impose themselves and their ideas on everyone, and everyone has to scramble to take some kind of preventive measures to avoid the unwanted attention.

  52. This has happened to me. by Trillan · · Score: 1

    Well, not all the stations obviously, but the only one that was playing a good song at the time. It got replaced by gastah crap.

  53. I used to do this... by isbhod · · Score: 0

    with the band i ran sound for i'd use an FM trasmitter designed for CD players (as this was before ipods ever came out) and i put the transmitters on stage witha coat hanger wrapped around the the small antenna the trasmitters had and it increase the range form about 5 feet to 20 feet which as perfect for use on stage. The singers would get cheap-o head fm radios with ear buds, and presto dirt cheap in ear monitors. whole setup (minius expensive music gear and musicians of course) about $25.00. $20.00 for the transmitter (best buy) and about $5.00 for teh fm radio with ear buds (walgreens) worked like a charm. Later i was able to get a an FM transmitter kit from radio shack and that put out a stronger signal, as as long as i was within sec 15 part ...umm i forget but either way stay under .1 watts and not broadcast over a licensed frequency and the FCC couldn't say a thing.

    yeah the ipod deal is a nice little trick, but let me tell you the FCC are bastards about violations of their rules, specially if they can bully around little people, after i left the band my firend decided to run a pirate radio station out of his dorm rom and got busted for broadcasting over frequencies he shoudl not have. So i suggest if you do this have a very fast car and know how to drive ;)

  54. Yeah, it's all fun and games until... by putch · · Score: 1, Funny

    you convince everyone that little timmy's fallen into the well.

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  55. yeah, I knew I can by timts · · Score: 1

    we even built our own tv station with simple modification of some anntena back in college, which covers our dorm building.
    guess ipod user doesnot know much about modern techonology.

  56. Hah!! Making your own pirate TV stations pwns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Step 1: Build this amplifier
    [http://perso.wanadoo.fr/f6itv/p2032001 .htm] (or somethink like it) but with mods to make it transmit on either 61.25MHZ (channel 3) or 67.25MHZ ( channel 4).

    Step2: Take 1 VCR - set it to channel 3 or 4 depending on your amplifier configuration.

    Step3a: Put a VHF TV antenna up on your roof (or a high place, higher the better).

    Step3b: connect VHF output from the VCR to the input of the VHF amplifier.

    Step3c: connect the output of the VHF amp to the TV antenna.

    Step4: Turn on the VCR and the VHF amp.

    Step5: Put a tape in a push play.

    Step6: Enjoy your new TV station until the FCC tracks it down. But you can be smart and clever and that kind of thing and hide from them.

    NOTE: This will cause severe repercussions on your life if you do this and get caught.

    Oh, and if you want audio for your TV station you will need to build another VHF amplifier that transmits 4.5 MHz above video transmitter.

  57. not pirate radio by akb · · Score: 4, Informative

    To call this pirate radio is insulting to real radio hackers. Increase the iTrip's range 20 or 30 percent, ooooh wow. That's what a whole 100 feet? When you can get 20 mile range by putting a hand made antenna in a tree connected to a hand soldered rig causing no interference to any other spectrum users (like you can learn to do from these people) I'll be more interested. And I won't care whether or not it involves purchasing the current fad consumer device like the iPod.

    1. Re:not pirate radio by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      Surprised also, that the ARRL hasnt gone full blast against this one, since this would be a good case for smacking this kind of interference down.

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    2. Re:not pirate radio by vmircea · · Score: 2, Insightful

      well it isn't really pirate radio... i mean the signal goes all of 15-20 feet, so it's just for fun, you can't do anything significant with it besides amuse yourself and others

    3. Re:not pirate radio by hendersj · · Score: 1

      ARRL relates specifically to amateur radio, so it wouldn't get involved in something involving commercial spectrum space. Causing harmful interference (in any part of the spectrum) is against FCC rules at a minimum and against the law at the maximum. As others have pointed out, this isn't "pirate radio", but merely causing interference with commercial radio stations.

      Causing harmful interference even on a small scale can get you into trouble with the FCC if someone gets upset enough about it, though. There was an amateur radio repeater in the Minneapolis area that was receiving harmful interference from some sort of RF-enabled price scanner (probably a device for taking inventory) at a Walgreens down the street from the repeater site, and after repeated attempts to have the problem dealt with, the local amateurs had to get the FCC involved, and they cited Walgreens for not fixing the problem.

      The problem did ultimately get fixed, but not until the FCC were involved in the problem.

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  58. Hmm... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    So I take it that Dallas / Fort Worth has a couple Clear Channel stations then?

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  59. How do you determine the frequency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that the person is listening to in the car next to you? So this only works if they happen to play the radio too loud and you scan around to find that same station? What am I missing?

  60. RIAA by awhelan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Watch out, you could get in trouble if you broadcast into the car of someone working for the RIAA. Since you probably aren't paying royalties on pirate radio, insted of suing you by IP address, they'll try to sue you by your license plate number.

  61. Car radio station by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This guy made up a kinda cool ipod pirate radio bumper sticker for his car. Course, the range isn't great.. I guess that's what this is for. I wonder how many people have tuned in having no idea what it is. They'd lose the signal pretty quickly depending on traffic.

  62. From the no-shit-sherlock dept. by bluethundr · · Score: 1

    Hey, I know! Let's find motorists with sociopathic tendencies and piss 'em off! What could possibly go worng?

    Sociopathic, and antisocial, but most likely moronic as well. 9 times out of 10. These are cases...like the Hummer blaring "Methodman" at jaw shattering levels...that might better suit the use of a silent 10 minute track that loops to be even safer, rather than "baring the same shit back at 'em". As a tinnitus sufferer, I couldn't do this anyway.

    So for the moron in the SUV listening to to rap, they will most likely be stupified by the silence. Of course, if he changes channels, your shit out of luck, until you again find the one he's on again (if you have time and the chance, like following someone who is unawares).

    Like I said, 9 times out of 10 they would likely be stupified were you successfull in your chicanery. What about the 10th time? Probably good to have a black belt or not risk the other 9 times. After all, without risk, is anyone EVER truly satisfied? Clever hack or no, this is a good empowerment to have in your personal aresenal.

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  63. I call Shenanigans! by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sorry, folks, but if you put your little iPod transmitter up against the giant commercial transmitters, the giant commercial one is going to win.

    Bear with me, I'm not going to go into details when I can't draw pictures.

    If you have two signals at the same frequency arriving at the radio at the same time, they'll overlap, not cancel. Let's say you're broadcasting the "blank" signal at, say, 100 MHz. The radio will receive a constant 100MHz signal.

    The way FM works is by changing the phase of the broadcasting signal in relation to the unmodulated signal. So, you'll get the silent signal (which will be unmodulated) and the real signal (modulated). The radio will process BOTH signals - they use processors to decode the signals. I don't know if you know this, but they're kind of fast now. They can handle multiple singals.

    If you broadcast another audio signal, you'll get the two audio signals overlapping. Keep in mind that you're putting your tiny little iPod wire up against a great big dirty commerical broadcasting antenna. If you win, I'd wager that the Feds are going to want to ask you a few questions.

    They haven't done this in real life. If you say you have, then you're lying. Of course, I'm just an Electronics Engineer - what do I know?

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    1. Re:I call Shenanigans! by jcuervo · · Score: 1
      If you have two signals at the same frequency arriving at the radio at the same time, they'll overlap, not cancel.
      I'm positive you're right, but for the sake of argument, let's not forget Captain Midnight.
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    2. Re:I call Shenanigans! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ever here of the inverse square law, and the FM capture effect? At close range you only need a tiny signal to swamp a moderately distant commercial station, and the FM capture effect means that the signal that is slightly stronger, will be the one that you hear, not the sum of the two signals.

    3. Re:I call Shenanigans! by chmod · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm sorry, but thanks for playing our game. Your description is completely incorrect my friend. FM has the "capture effect" wherein only ONE signal can be properly decoded.

      Which ever signal is strongest at the receiver will "win" and be heard. If the signals are too close in strength, you won't get either properly.

      With a commercial transmitter putting out several KW's but being 50 miles away and you putting out 100MW but being several yards away it is quite possible you will win out.

      BTW, this is exactly what these products do. You don't need to be on an unused frequency (trying finding one of those in the Bay Area) Of course it helps quite a bit if the commercial signal is weak and easier to overcome.

    4. Re:I call Shenanigans! by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      And as an added bonus, at 100MW your aerial will be brighter than the sun! Well, briefly anyway.

      I still think a magnetron from a microwave oven + a nice directional waveguide mounted in the grill of your car would be nice. Surely a 1/4 second pulse from that could induce enough voltage in Mr Bass's electronics to fry them without (noticeably) frying him.

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    5. Re:I call Shenanigans! by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      With a commercial transmitter putting out several KW's but being 50 miles away and you putting out 100MW but being several yards away it is quite possible you will win out.

      With 100MW from several yards away it is quite certain that I will win out. I'll not only take over the signal, I'll burn out the receiver, melt the car, blast a large hole through the building on the other side of the road and set fire to just about everything in the area. Of course I'll need a pretty impressive power supply to do this.

      Perhaps you meant 100mW?

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  64. Vigilante by gninnor · · Score: 1

    "Not to mention the fact that it's probably illegal. DMCA, FCC, RIAA - need I go on?"

    Isn't that the point of one of the earlier posts? What they do is illegal and nothing is don about it. Yet the only thing that the government seems to want to do is make sure that the people do not take the law into their own hands.

  65. Prior Art! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    This isn't even a clever hack.

    It really isn't remotely clever. You could probably do this with a Mr. Microphone.

    We used to be able to buy these little Archer-Kit 100mw FM transmitters from Radio Shack, which ran off a 9v battery. You could do all sorts of crap with that, like play voice over the station they're listening to: "I suck d!ck, come bl0w me.", etc. Though I'd be more inclined to find the noisiest little 1.5v DC motor I can find and feed, through like a 0.01 ufd cap, the brush noise. I'm sure that'd be a big hit.

    Problem is, most of these jerks you want to mess with are listing to a CD or MP3.

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  66. What the? by zifferent · · Score: 4, Funny

    This already happened to me!

    I was driving along Tuesday listening to NPR and all of a sudden rap started coming out my radio.

    I thought this was odd, because it cut in suddenly and clear as a bell.

    I then noticed that the closer I came to the Cadillac in front of me the clearer the signal became, and at certain distance from the car NPR would cut back in.

    I just thought it was some new annoying technology that I hoped wouldn't catch on too soon.

    It's a great way for kids to annoy other people with their music without the cops catching on and citing them for noise ordinances.

    Small world.

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    1. Re:What the? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I was driving along Tuesday listening to NPR and all of a sudden rap started coming out my radio


      That was a freudian slip for NPR.

    2. Re:What the? by rebelcool · · Score: 1

      I have a cd changer in my car that uses the radio tuner at 89.1 to play. So today I switched to that, but instead of the usual static I heard actual music coming out of it - and not the fare you'd hear on the radio usually. Took me awhile to figure out where it came from, I figured someone had some kind of miniature broadcaster somewhere, and now I think I know where :)

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    3. Re:What the? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What probably happened is something similar as described in this article. The owner of the Caddy in front of you was too cheap to buy a decent head unit so they used an FM transmitter to broadcast from a CD player/changer into (more than likely) the stock head unit. This article is nothing new (as has been said before) these have been around for years.

    4. Re:What the? by gregmac · · Score: 1

      I just thought it was some new annoying technology that I hoped wouldn't catch on too soon.

      It's a great way for kids to annoy other people with their music without the cops catching on and citing them for noise ordinances.


      Or perhaps they're just trying to do the exact same thing the article mentions to people listening loudly to what they perceive as crappy music, using music that they like (rap), as opposed to birds or waves (which apparently geeks like)..

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  67. Or if you are into 802.11 mesh systems by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How hard would it be to add one of those mini fm transmitters to each node of an 802.11b mesh. Instant community radio.

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  68. FM radio, I think not. by sleighb0y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The idea that you are going to foil someone blasting their music in most cases is absurd. Who spends the money on an aftermarket sound system, only to listen to FM radio? Nobody wants to hear the latest furniture store jingle blasted at them, and who are they going to impress with that anyhow?

    A better use would be to take this in a store that plays a radio station acorss their PA sytem (non sat-based radio of course).

    1. Re:FM radio, I think not. by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you output enough wattage it overwhelms the receiver and bleeds over into the audio amplifier. So this technique would be valid with more power.

      Ask any CB'er who has a linear amp. ;-)

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    2. Re:FM radio, I think not. by billster0808 · · Score: 0

      Does anyone know what frequency stores usually broadcast over?

  69. iPod cellphone blocker by thephydes · · Score: 2

    All we need now is an attachment for the iPod to block those tossers who leave their cellphones on in theatres, restaurants etc and think that everyone else wants to hear their conversations.

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  71. 911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, etc. by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
    I called 911 and get, I not am sh1tting you "we're really busy right now"

    It's called prioritizing. "Deal with shooting or deal with guy who's being followed by some teenager punk. Hmm." "I am not sh1tting you", 911 is heavily abused. Sample calls, according to dispatchers I've spoken with: "Hi, do you know the number for ____?" "I lost my dog..." "Can you give me directions to...", then the ever-popular hangups, which of course they have to investigate, tying up an officer's time. Then there are shut-in bitches who tell war+peace about the neighbor's [dog barking/yard mess/porch lights on/you name it]. The list goes on, and on, and on.

    Most police departments are also pretty short-staffed these days. Bush is mostly responsible on two counts; 1, for cutting back on federal funding for local emergency staff- police, EMS and fire all have been hit hard in almost every town throughout the US. 2, a large percentage of Guard and Reservists are (surprise!) also town/city fire fighters, police, EMS, etc.

    I later went back to look at the laws in my state governing self-defense.

    How about looking up the noise ordinances, instead? Most cities and towns have 'em. NY, for example, is getting very tough on noise complaints (I believe you dial 311, ie the non-emergency number?) Borrow a neighbor's video camera (they'll be happy to oblige if it's annoying them as well) and videotape the clown going by- be sure to get a closeup of his face, and his plates. Call the NON EMERGENCY ie business number for the local station, ask to set up an appointment with an officer or detective. Problem solved and out of your hands.

    Next thing I know the guy is chasing me around trying to run me off the road.

    Um- duh. Get away from him, file a police report later with the plates and vehicle description. You've also hit upon why I carry a Bronx Calling Card, aka 3-D-cell Maglight, in my front door pocket. I have been doing so ever since someone told me they'd "fucking kill me" at a stoplight when I told him he his highbeams were stuck on. This was, incidentally, in downtown Larchmont, NY(very swanky neighborhood), the guy was not driving a riced out POS, and he was white.

    One of many reasons I moved out of NY state- everyone's a prick out to kill you at the drop of a hat.

  72. this is new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was doing this 20 yeas ago in my college doorm room, with an amplifier here, RF generator there I could just put them together in a couple seconds notice. Every time my neighbor cranked up the music at 2:00AM he just wound up turning it back down as not to be "embarrased" playing what ever suited my fansy at the time. Of course, at 2:00AM I didn't have a "conventional" sense of humor either!

    Oh, then I learned all about directional high gain antena's; they really helped for the dorm across the street too. ;-)

  73. How about an EMP? by erroneus · · Score: 4, Funny

    If my goal was to shut those loud-assed rude-some-bitches down, then why not do it right? Shut your car off and set off a huge EMP to kill his equipment?

    Sounds like fun doesn't it? Sure does... now how can I create an EMP big enough to do it? Anyone got plans and a parts list for Radio Shack?

  74. What is this 'spam' of which you speak? by jabber01 · · Score: 1

    I haven't listened to broadcast radio while driving in years. Except to check traffic reports.

    I have an mp3 player. (not and iPod, though FM transmitters are available COTS for anything with an 1/8" jack at CompUSA)

    Get with the times.

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  75. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by mc6809e · · Score: 1

    It's called prioritizing. "Deal with shooting or deal with guy who's being followed by some teenager punk.

    I think I made it clear that I was in fear for my life. That's not a priority? Maybe I should have just crashed into him. An accident is bound to draw at least one police officer (I hope).

    How about looking up the noise ordinances, instead? Most cities and towns have 'em. NY, for example, is getting very tough on noise complaints (I believe you dial 311, ie the non-emergency number?) Borrow a neighbor's video camera (they'll be happy to oblige if it's annoying them as well) and videotape the clown going by- be sure to get a closeup of his face, and his plates. Call the NON EMERGENCY ie business number for the local station, ask to set up an appointment with an officer or detective. Problem solved and out of your hands.

    The first thing I did was look at the laws regarding noise and their enforcement. In essense, a police officer must both see and hear the noise for himself before he can issue a citation. No second hand accounts.

    Um- duh. Get away from him, file a police report later with the plates and vehicle description.

    Look. I don't know what you drive, but I've got a 94 Ford Escort Wagon. He was in a muscle SUV. He didn't want me to get away.

    You've also hit upon why I carry a Bronx Calling Card, aka 3-D-cell Maglight, in my front door pocket.

    Excellent idea.

  76. Possible solution: by Atario · · Score: 2, Funny
    Ingredients:
    • MASH-style Public Address horn speaker on your eaves (or possibly pole-mounted in your yard)
    • Large, power-hungry amplifier
    • Barry Manilow CD
    Writing the procedure is left as an exercise to the reader.
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    1. Re:Possible solution: by AndyChrist · · Score: 2, Funny

      Replace the Barry Manilow CD with any of these (But most especially Chris Burke)

      Then you not only defeat their equipment, you defeat their will to live.

    2. Re:Possible solution: by nyekulturniy · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine used a German brass band playing "Preussen's Gloria" at full volume. It was highly effective.

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    3. Re:Possible solution: by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      I actually tracked up an S3M format rendition of an ice cream truck playing "Do Your Ears Hang Low?", recorded it on a casette, and blasted it in my friend's car while we were driving through a suburban neighborhood. We got some weird looks.

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  77. I would prefer... by Atario · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a directed EM pulse. Advantages:
    • Permanently disables audio system, thus providing relief to not only yourself, but others down the road as well
    • Effective against playback devices as well as radios (when was the last time you heard obnoxious idiots like this playing the radio?)
    • You might be able to take out their engine electronics as well, thus stranding them while you take off, smiling quietly to yourself
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    1. Re:I would prefer... by akvalentine · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You mean like this?

    2. Re:I would prefer... by Safety+Cap · · Score: 1

      Make sure you wear Pb underwear, if you ever want to have kids.

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    3. Re:I would prefer... by IndigoDarkwolf · · Score: 0

      Myself, I'd rather enjoy their face as some 16-year-old's window-shattering bass gets replaced by Eiffel 65's Blue...

    4. Re:I would prefer... by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      Would it help if I drank plenty of Mr. Pibb?

    5. Re:I would prefer... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Make sure you wear Pb underwear, if you ever want to have kids.

      You're thinking of gamma and X rays. We're talking about reg'lar old radio waves. Radio waves live on the other end of the electromagnetic spectrum. Radio waves are non-ionizing (i.e. they don't hurt your DNA). An EMP can be almost entirely dissipated by a well grounded metal shield. Physics. It's not just for kids!

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    6. Re:I would prefer... by goodie3shoes · · Score: 1

      Well, perhaps I am the enemy, as far as loud car stereos go. I have made my living for 20+ years designing their hardware. I plead the "guns don't kill people" argument; you don't have to use your 2000 watt system to pollute the acoustic environment, you can choose to play some nice quiet jazz. Yea, right.I deplore the irresponsibe use of such technology as much as any other considerate citizen. The problem with the notion of FM radio hijacking as a cure is that (duh!) most of these damn young kids are playing CD's (of stolen MP3's) because FM radio SUCKS and nothing short of an EMP weapon will stop it.

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    7. Re:I would prefer... by midav · · Score: 1

      You mean tin-foil hat?

    8. Re:I would prefer... by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

      while you take off, smiling quietly to yourself

      In your faster-than-a-bullet car?

    9. Re:I would prefer... by chamcham · · Score: 0
      You're thinking of gamma and X rays. We're talking about reg'lar old radio waves. Radio waves live on the other end of the electromagnetic spectrum. Radio waves are non-ionizing (i.e. they don't hurt your DNA). An EMP can be almost entirely dissipated by a well grounded metal shield. Physics. It's not just for kids!

      Who said anything about hurting your dna? Tell you what. I'll let you stand infront of my 23db 13cm dish while I key the radio. Let me know if that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside. RF works great to cook flesh.

    10. Re:I would prefer... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      Who said anything about hurting your dna?

      I quote the OP:

      "Make sure you wear Pb[lead] underwear, if you ever want to have kids."

      Note the reference to lead shielding. He's thinking of some sort of ionizing radiation, obviously. X-rays, more than likely.

      Tell you what. I'll let you stand infront of my 23db 13cm dish while I key the radio. Let me know if that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside. RF works great to cook flesh.

      Christ Almighty, did I say radio waves are always harmless? No, I only said they aren't the same as ionizing radiation. I'm trying to combat the ignorance that leads to people taking at face value the phrases like "nuking my food" in reference to microwave ovens. I'd have thought that you, someone who obviously knows that radio waves aren't going to mutate people's children, would understand the importance of making that point. What if your neighbor decides to blame his brain tumor on the 6m antenna on your roof? Next thing you know we've got congress telling the FCC to cap amateur output at "10W in populated areas" or some such nonsense because in Joe Public's mind "radio waves" = "radioactive" = "instant deadly cancer".

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    11. Re:I would prefer... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      You mean tin-foil hat?

      Exactly. Though for it to really work you'll need to dangle a ground wire off it and keep it connected to a good, solid ground.

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    12. Re:I would prefer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >In your faster-than-a-bullet car?

      If you live in a civilized country that doesn't allow its citizen to have guns, then you won't need a faster-than-a-bullet car.

    13. Re:I would prefer... by BattyMan · · Score: 1

      OK, as a guy who's made his living for 20+ years designing car audio hardware, I have a question for you:

      I remember in the 70's [vaguely, don't ask me for specific dates] when headphones became popular as an alternative to the high co$t of the huge $peaker$ required to reproduce LOUD music (for ex, the WHO). The use of these was promptly outlawed in autos on the theory that they would inhibit the user's ability to hear the sirens of right-of-way vehicles such as ambulances, and of course the police cruiser trying to stop them.

      Shouldn't the same theory be applicable to a 2000 Watt, 120(?) dB sound system in a car? I mean if a gangsta's stereo is SO LOUD that I, sitting next to him at a light, with all my windows up, cannot hear _my_ stereo inside _my_ car, what hope would this rappa have of hearing the siren of a fire truck bearing down upon him on the cross street? Isn't | shouldn't there be SOME maximum allowable street-legal volume, say maybe 3dB below the standard level of these right-of-way sirens, beyond which we _shouldn't_allow_ car stereos to go?

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    14. Re:I would prefer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically radio waves are radioactive in the sense that they are electromagnetic radiation.

  78. This could do it too.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm

  79. The title of this article is misleading by rfc1394 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Pirate Radio" implies a high-powered transmitter (such as from ships off-shore or moving vehicles) trying to evade detection, being used to beam signals in an area at strength levels far, far in excess of the unlicensed threshhold.

    This type of transmitter generates at or below the 100 mw permitted for completely unlicensed radio transmissions by FCC regulations. It is not "pirate" as this form of unlicensed radio transmitter is completely legal.

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    1. Re:The title of this article is misleading by certsoft · · Score: 2, Informative

      100mw is not permitted for FM unlicensed radio transmissions per part 15 of the FCC regs. For part 15 they go only by field strength at a certain distance from the antenna. 100mw into anything better than a dummy load will be way over the limits. Even the 25mw transmitters sold by Ramsey Electronics will exceed the limits in most cases.

  80. The Maglite Defense by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    In all honesty, all it does is piss someone off if you hit them with it. Someone swings at you, parry with a forearm at the moment it won't hurt and then they are on you. Honestly go for the night club or the small law enforcement nightsticks, work alot better.

    Sure they are bright, but that doesn't work all that well as a weapon.

    1. Re:The Maglite Defense by HornWumpus · · Score: 1
      You parry a 5 cell mag light with your arm.

      Ok, now you have a broken arm. 'moment it won't hurt', when would that be? You think I'm telegraphing where/when your going to get hit?

      What's your next move?

      BTW The cops carry big mag lights for a reason. That being they make dandy clubs.

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    2. Re:The Maglite Defense by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Funny

      carry the maglite and a 2,500,000 candle power lead/acid flashlight, blinde them with the 2.5M then club the fuck out of them with the maglite

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    3. Re:The Maglite Defense by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Ok, you sir have seen to many movies. In real life you parry a full size (4 or more d cell) MagLight (by brand, or sturdiness alike) with your forearm and it's going hurt like hell in a very short (nerv relay+plus cognition time < .5 seconds) if it's not outright broke.
      A really solid 6+ d-cell maglight will do MORE damage for a comparable blow than many of those wooden nightsticks. In fact those nightsticks are RESTRAINT devices to a large degree and are made of wood to limmit damage, you don't think it wouldn't be easy to have them made of a lightweight metal composition that hit harder than wood if they were there to do damage? In some cases the police are not even allowed to have them made of the really hard woods for that reason. I strongly suspect many police have the huge maglights just so they have somthing a bit tougher should they need it, somtimes you need raw damage and shooting would be unnaceptable (thing pcp freak in a crowd, pain won't stop him, to many around to risk shooting).

      Mycroft

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    4. Re:The Maglite Defense by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      There can be a small intervall between damage and pain, somtimes enough to act. I've been there.
      Me and someone else got into an argument that he tried to win by kneeing me in the groin, I knew I was going to double over in sever pain, but for a really clear instant I hadn't felt it, so I aimed my forehead at his nose, didn't quite break it clean, but it was cracked and smashed and bloody. Of course I was tossing lunch on the ground and didn't much care, but he wasn't following up on his 'argument' eigther.

      Mycroft

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    5. Re:The Maglite Defense by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      "OK, you sir have seen to many movies. In real life you parry a full size (4 or more d cell) MagLight (by brand, or sturdiness alike) with your forearm and it's going hurt like hell in a very short (nerv relay+plus cognition time .5 seconds) if it's not outright broke."

      No, I've been hit with a Maglite and been told by folks who've been clubbed with them by Oregon State Police and Portland PD and been told by police officers.

    6. Re:The Maglite Defense by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      All I can say is that does not agree with my experience. I've been hit (accidently) with one, and I guarantee it hurt. And this wasn't swung with any force, just some one gesturing around and not watching what he was doing, I had a bruis for a few days of significant size.
      Just to make shure we're talking about the same thing, I'm talking a tube of METAL containing 4+ heavy d-batteries swung at the end of an adult arm.
      Mag-light is often used to refer to a whole class of flashlights, some made very cheaply and flismy, those might give enough to only be painfull.
      The ones I'm used to however (actual mag-light brand from a few year ago) can be used to break a two by for in half and only muss the paint a little.
      Mycroft

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    7. Re:The Maglite Defense by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      I'm talking about a Mag-Lite brand flashlight. Aircraft Aluminum with it's patented rubber switch, 4-6 D-Cell.

  81. pirate radio by ShadowRage · · Score: 1

    Now on pirate radio, you can hear such classics as
    "A pirate's life for me"
    and other classics you've seen in all the pirate films! LISTEN TODAY!

  82. Another Portable Low Power FM Setup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a link to another little low power FM broadcasting setup, using higher quality hardware.

  83. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by 3terrabyte · · Score: 1

    I have a crowbar under by seat.

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  84. What? by jcuervo · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I couldn't hear you with all that distortion.

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  85. All you need is a can of Coke... by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

    It's simple and cheap: Let the red-faced, screaming asshole pull up along side you, and start shaking up you can of Coke. As soon as s/he opens the side window to start yelling at you, pull the ring and throw it through into their car. I've found they find it difficult to follow you with a windscreen splattered with foam and a spinning can erupting all over the interior of their car ;-)))

    1. Re:All you need is a can of Coke... by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Nice. Except that they now have a real and viable reason for following/'getting' you, and now that you've damaged their car and they've (supposedly) done nothing to you...*you* are now the one that the cops are after.

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    2. Re:All you need is a can of Coke... by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      A pie on their windshield would be better.

  86. Re:Hah!! Making your own pirate TV stations pwns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Even better, use old cable TV modulators.

    When the modulator's power supply goes bad, the cable companies will throw away the *entire* modulator. These can be use as real, high-quality low power TV transmitters. They are on fixed frequencies though. It's also possible to salvage them as 45 MHz IF rigs.

    I've put them up on the 440 MHz and 900 MHz amateur radio TV bands a couple of times. Use a cable TV converter connected directly to an antenna to receive the signal.

    Cable channel 59 corresponds to the 440 MHz amateur radio TV frequency.

  87. wow ipod can do anything... by vmircea · · Score: 1

    i really think it is great how versatile an ipod is... you can store pictures from memory cards, play music, record music, and now you can even broadcast music to piss people off, the possibilities are endless. Kudos to apple for making a great product

    1. Re:wow ipod can do anything... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "i really think it is great how versatile an ipod is... you can store pictures from memory cards, play music, record music, and now you can even broadcast music to piss people off, the possibilities are endless.

      You do realize that you can do this with other mp3 players and lots of other devices. Have Apple users been in a cave for 30 years or what? The idea behind this submission is quite stupid and their is no reason to even mention the iPod since you could replace the iPod in the article with any number of hard drive based mp3 players. May of the other mp3 players also have much more space and more features.

      "Kudos to apple for making a great product"

      Kudos to apple for knowing how to market their product.

  88. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by psavo · · Score: 1

    It's called prioritizing.

    No, it's called dealing-with-sympotomes-instead-of-real-cause. Instead of curbing personal violence right in it's roots, they will have to deal later with that driver shooting people.

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  89. Yes, but not with an iPod by ryanvm · · Score: 1

    Ever want to silence the urban assault vehicle beside you at the stop light, pounding out gangster angst at orthodontia-rattling volumes?

    Indeed, but my secret fantasy involves a directional EMP.

    But instead I just sit back and cherish the thought that in 20 years they'll be deaf as snake.

  90. Not the police in my city. by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are too busy chasing me down because I don't have a front license plate.

    I've been pulled over twice in the past seven days so I think it's time to finally give in and install a bracket and the plate.

    The second officer was very authoritative but seemed respectful enough so I asked him what the purpose of a front plate was and if it was suppossed to make it safer for officers. His response was something like, I have no idea, I think they're silly but the law states you have to have it so you do.

    Seemed like a fair enough answer to me.

    The problem is though when I call the police because someone has broken into my car or vandalized, etc. The two of three times I've had to do this I am completely blown off. Not that there is a huge success rate at catching the people that do these things but there's going to be a ZERO success rate if no effort is attempted at all.

    I would have much rather had the officers there filling out police reports and taking fingerprints when I needed them instead of pulling me over and reminding me that our state requires a front license plate.

    That's what I get for living in an area with too low of a crime rate. They make up unecessary legislation so that the police will have something to do during their down time.

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    1. Re:Not the police in my city. by Babbster · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's not to give police officers something to do, it's to generate income. A ticket (especially since a large percentage are paid by mail with a guilty plea) is money in the bank. One officer in a radio car could generate hundreds of dollars per shift (with a "good" speed trap, per hour) writing tickets for traffic infractions. A burglary investigation, however, does nothing but cost money - in fact, it's made even worse if they actually catch the person since they then have court time, probation time and maybe prison time to pay for.

      Since most people know that burglaries are almost never solved (apart from catching the person either in the act, or fleeing the scene), the public understands why so few resources are dedicated to the crime. This sets up a nice little circle for the city/county in terms of money since the funds can be spent elsewhere and the public doesn't raise hell about it.

    2. Re:Not the police in my city. by goldfndr · · Score: 1
      ... I asked him what the purpose of a front plate was and if it was suppossed to make it safer for officers. His response was something like, I have no idea, I think they're silly but the law states you have to have it so you do.
      There was some recent discussion I read somewhere about discontinuing front plates in WA state. I recall two favoring arguments:
      • One more chance to ID a vehicle
      • It's the single biggest reflective surface, increasing safety
      I can't argue with the second argument. It's also the reasoning behind issuing new plates after a number of years.
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    3. Re:Not the police in my city. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the single biggest reflective surface, increasing safety

      There is a reason why officers are trained to aim the new laser speed detection guns at the front license plate.

  91. Broadcast the reverse silence isntead by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 1

    Use one of some underpowered FM radio, get something that transmits the reverse sound waves just as loundly. It would be great to have someone pull up and suddenly come into your silent zone. I'm not sure if you can buy the devices for a car radio, but I've seen them in headsets, and train/pilot chairs.

    Silence International is one maker I know of, but no car audio.

  92. Even that's an understatement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    100000 dB (assuming dBm standard) is 10 to the 9997th power Watts of power! That's way beyond even big bang levels. It makes a Xeelee Starbreaker look like a half-dead firefly. And then some. Enough to create/destroy a few trillion universes...

    1. Re:Even that's an understatement by daveashcroft · · Score: 1

      Isnt this how Xenu, the scientology overlord managed to destroy the souls of several galaxies and implant them in the bodies of those inhabiting the earth?

      OOPS, have i broke copyright law? Damn, Tom Cruise et al will be laying the smackdown on me!

      For those who are bemused by my apparent rantings...check out. Operation Clambake

    2. Re:Even that's an understatement by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I always thought Scientology should have been illustrated by Jack Kirby.

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    3. Re:Even that's an understatement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Xeelee Starbreaker" is from Stephen Baxter's sci-fi. It has nothing to do with scientology/hubbard, etc.

  93. Or... by ANTRat · · Score: 0, Interesting

    you can buy a NeurosAudio mp3 player to do everything that that article talks about, without buying addons for it

  94. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have GOT to be shitting me.

    Bush is mostly responsible on two counts; 1, for cutting back on federal funding for local emergency staff- police, EMS and fire all have been hit hard in almost every town throughout the US.

    "cutting back on FEDERAL funding for LOCAL emergency staff"

    While you were smugly typing in your oh-so-wise critique of Bush, did it ever even occur to you how inane this is? It's the central frickin' principal of federalist government, you idiot!

    Also, as far as the Guard and Reserve go, did it ever occur to you that this would happen, and has, WHENEVER Guardsmen and/or reservist are activated? Including World War II? Would you have said "It's all Roosevelt's fault?" I mean, really, what would you suggest, telling policemen and emergency responders that they can't serve in the Ready Reserve? Vice versa? Disbanding the reserves?

    Sorry to go ballistic, but it's not too far off to say that people like you are what's wrong with this country. You have no clue (or just don't care) about the principles of limited and local government on which this country was founded. You just want more, more, more from an increasingly centralized, monolithic government.

  95. Crane transmitter is the real deal - iTrip crap by Quash · · Score: 2, Informative

    Want a *real* FM Transmitter that can pull this off? The iTrip is fine but it doesn't compare, even closely, to the power of the Crane.. especially when tweaked. Crane FM Transmitter http://www.ccrane.com/fm-transmitter.aspx Tips on Tweaking (shh, don't tell the FCC): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000 0E6I1N/104-6157464-0778362?v=glance&vi=faq&me=ATVP DKIKX0DER

  96. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    4-D cell maglight in "holster" seatside.
    18" crecent wrench and CDF issue Fire Axe behind the seat. Used the axe once, the maglight twice.

    (changed an old ladies tire w/ the wrench when it turned out her lug wrench was not for her car and no way my trucks wrench was gonna work)
    -nB

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  97. Noise sucks by madpoet_one · · Score: 1

    Being semi deaf (the upper db ranges... it was an AC/DC concert in the early eighties...), these a**holes drive me crazy. The low bass pretty much washes out any other sound when I am around it. Horrible... But look on the bright side, when the revolution comes, we old guys may not be able to out run those guys, but we will be able to sneak up on them...

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  98. Better Solution - SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER by SCUBA+Instructor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your're not gonna silence the other guy's loud car stereo, instead you're gonna launch him about 40 feet into the air! The FCC might tend to frown on you if they see you doing it; If you want to rule the airways for several blocks around your vehicle on all frequencies AM and FM simultaneously, and even screw up the guys CD audio, just build a spark gap transmitter and transmit either CW or voice (if you could call it that). The more RF output power the better! You could even connect a dynamotor to your auto fan belt (run it in tandem with your generator) and pump out 1000 watts+ RF! Then you'll bring the whole bay area to its knees! I think you might want to place your iPod in a well shielded box or just leave it at home while using the spark gap. This is technology from the 1920's !! Here's a sample schematic: http://w1.859.telia.com/~u85920178/tx/sparky.htm Oh yeah, be real careful - RF burns are no fun.

  99. mod mod mod UP! by Down8 · · Score: 1

    Mod this man up - b/c no one else seems to have noticed that the idea beihnd the submission is retarded. When I bump my gantser angst, it's from a CD or MP3.

    -bZj

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  100. Little flaw in your logic there, dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Yeah? Shitload of gunowners here in Oakland, too...

    The reason it doesn't happen in Nebraska is because you have, what, 14 people total living in the whole state? Figure one is the governor, two senators, a house rep, a cop and that's down to 10 potential suspects.

    1. Re:Little flaw in your logic there, dude by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Your mistaken assumption is that the governor, senators, rep, and cop aren't suspects.

  101. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly, you are the all mighty and therefore know exactly what we need to think! Our opinions are WRONG! All hail Alaska Jack!

  102. XM? by telstar · · Score: 1

    What if that Oaf is listening to XM radio?

  103. Interestingly enough... by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

    I see no reason why you can't do the exact same thing with an off the shelf FM transmitter (about $30), and a cheapo MP3 CD player ($50).

    It makes quite a smaller dent in the wallet than any iPod could, and is ideal for those true bootstrap guerrillas.

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  104. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Skater · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd like to create a corollary to Godwin's Law, called Skater's Corollary:

    "As a /. discussion grows longer, the odds someone will somehow blame George W. Bush for the current topic approach one."

    --RJ

  105. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I very muich agree if they looked at the real surce a lot of things could be better.

  106. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    no actually, YOU are wrong. During the 90s there was substantial federal funding for local law enforcement- remember "100,000 more police on the street"? That funding expired and was not renewed by Bush.

    Please drop dead.

  107. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by epistemology · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Federalist government? Like: 1. Spending millions of tax dollars to hire federal employees to strip search granny at the airport. 2. Opposing Oregon's right to die law with federal dollars. 3. Opposing local medical marijuana laws with federal dollars. 4. Having the US Supreme Court overrule the State of Florida's right to choose its own electors in the 2000 election. Federalism, bullshit. About the only time the conseervatives have favored states' rights is when it was an excuse to support slavery.

  108. Fun with classic taglines by DigiDarkCloud · · Score: 1

    Er, possibly... go wrong. Heh, that's the first thing that's ever gone wrong.

    The first thing? I seriously doubt that. Nothing is so smiple that it can't be screwed up.

    (Yes, that was intentional.)

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  109. Ineffective for car CD players by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Most of the idiots around my area that play that crap use CD players, not FM stereos.

    But its a nice idea..

    'round here, EMP devices would be more effective.

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  110. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by buck_wild · · Score: 1

    Bedder do subthing for thad code. :)

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  111. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by FredFnord · · Score: 1, Insightful
    While you were smugly typing in your oh-so-wise critique of Bush, did it ever even occur to you how inane this is? It's the central frickin' principal of federalist government, you idiot!
    First... it's good to know that you're the authority on everything. I can relate, I am too. But don't be an asshole about it. You can know you're right about everything all the time and everyone else is wrong, but you don't have to be obnoxious when you're showing the light to the uninformed mortals around you.

    Second, not that you'll even read this let alone actually make the attempt to comprehend it: part of the idea of having a federal government is that the states are not all equal. Should a poor state have lousy law enforcement and end up with ten times the crime rate of a rich one? In your world, yes, it should. In my world, no, the rich states should subsidize essential services, such as law enforcement, for the poorer ones. In much the same way that richer areas in a state should subsidize the poorer areas' schools, so that people who grow up in the poorer areas only have a terribly lousy chance at escaping poverty, instead of none at all.

    It's a pity I mostly have to live in your world.

    -fred
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  112. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In boston, we're told to call 911 for all police dispatches.
    If you try to call, say, a local police station to report a barking dog, they tell you to call 911.
    If you try to call a station to tell them your neighbor is Bin Laden, they tell you to call 911...

  113. Slashdot bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As they say, if the reporting wasn't slanted, it'd be |.

  114. capture effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And no, they don't use processors to decode the signals. And even if they did, you cannot decode two signals that are over one another, they interfere. You lose data.

    FM is decoded generally by locking a PLL to the carrier (after mixing with an intermediate frequency). The output of the phase detector which corrects the PLL changes by an amount equivalent to the amount the PLL has to change frequency in order to remain on track. This change in frequency is due to the fact that the carrier was frequency modulated. Thus, this phase detector output is (roughly) the signal that was encoded on the carrier.

    Using a processor would be far more complex and less efficient.

    As to your transmitter winning out, the massive commerical transmitter is far away, the signal falls off with the cube of the distance, so if you are 100 times closer to the receiver, you only need to be 1/1,000,000th as strong to even the odds.

  115. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've also hit upon why I carry a Bronx Calling Card, aka 3-D-cell Maglight, in my front door pocket.

    WTF is a three dimensional flashlight?

    oohhhhh....

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  116. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have no clue (or just don't care) about the principles of limited and local government on which this country was founded.

    The United States wasn't founded on those principles. I like them, but think federalist interpretation of the Constitution won in most early Supreme Court rulings.

    Limited government my culo.

  117. The "Rolf Harris" Method by neanderdude · · Score: 1
    odd...

    I find that the "woop-woop...woop-woop...woop-woop" in "Tie Me Kangaroo Down" when played at a decent volume works pretty well, too.

    'course this method usually results in my ears hurting... (shrug)

    1. Re:The "Rolf Harris" Method by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      That's a great song! Brings back childhood memories...

  118. Yeah, not to mention by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most of these guys are probably listening to CDs. Who the hell would spend thousands on a sound system and use it to listen to the radio. I've never heard any loud bass that matched anything on the radio.

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    1. Re:Yeah, not to mention by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      Alright, then could we fantasize about targeted EMPs? Or .50cal semiautomatics, I'm not particular. Mmmm, targeted EMPs....

  119. Uh... by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    I think there's a limit on how loud an FM broadcast can be. And what's the point of changing the frequency of a square wave? A square wave is the sum of all frequencies already, IIRC. I also doubt it would cause much damage to the system.

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    1. Re:Uh... by mc6809e · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think there's a limit on how loud an FM broadcast can be. And what's the point of changing the frequency of a square wave? A square wave is the sum of all frequencies already, IIRC.

      YDRC,DA.

      A square wave is the sum of the fundamental and all odd harmonics.

      It's a pulse that contains all frequencies.

  120. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by pseudochaotic · · Score: 1

    Umm...How would that work, exactly? Mind-control? Prozac? The hurting-and-killing-people impulse is deeply ingrained in humanity.

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  121. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well of course, he's the current White-Guy du-jour who is responsible for most of the world's present ills. :)

  122. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    While you were smugly typing in your oh-so-wise critique of Bush, did it ever even occur to you how inane this is? It's the central frickin' principal of federalist government, you idiot!

    Yup. It's absolutely inane to place the lives and safety of citizens above 'states rights'.

    Not that many state governments complain about federal funding, that I've seen.

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  123. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Kyeo · · Score: 1

    You're right. Loud cars are the reason for widespread crime! WE MUST DO SOMETHING!

  124. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was a scam that the people who love big government play. They make these great plans to buy off votes prior to an election. People like you think "that's great, my govment luv me". That spending was enacted with the plan that the Feds pay for a couple of years and then force the states to find a way to keep it going. It happens all the time for medicaid as well.

  125. Crumb's Theorem by grcumb · · Score: 4, Funny
    "As a /. discussion grows longer, the odds someone will somehow blame George W. Bush for the current topic approach one."

    Crumb's Theorem:

    The chances that George W. Bush actually is to blame is directly proportional to the number of months he has been in office.

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  126. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Funny

    Naa, more like: As Bush stays in office, the odds Bush will be responsible for something bad approach one.

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  127. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by tehdaemon · · Score: 1
    If you can find any such authority for the federal government fund any law enforcement in the Constitution I would be interested. I have read it. The federal government's powers over law enforcement are limited, and they nowhere include funding local law enforcement.

    The role of the federal government is to take care of external relations with foriegn states, and regulate those powers that if they were left to the states would cause trouble. (trade wars and tarrifs to import things between new york and new jersey, (yes this happened) private wars between states (almost happened too!) etc. )

    Unlike you, our founding fathers were not socialist. They would have shot down any such nonesense in a hurry. They called us the United states of America (yes, I got the capitalization right!) 'state' here is synonymous with 'nation' Learn some history please.

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  128. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I keep a hand crossbow and one of the(discontinued) 8 D cell maglites. HERE for the appropriate CA penal code section. Crossbows aren't illegal. Nor are swords. It is perfectly legal to walk around with a sword, naginata, spear, pike, halberd, etc, but a dirk is a no-no. Also, death threats are illegal in the US. If you recieve one, report it as such. The sender can be put in jail.

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  129. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by mc6809e · · Score: 1

    You're right. Loud cars are the reason for widespread crime! WE MUST DO SOMETHING!

    Loud cars represent an adversarial outlook towards the rest of society. It's obvious that loud music irritates others, yet it continues. For some this is their very object. They wish to disturb others.

    Now, what sort of person does such a thing?

    It's that outlook towards others that can translate into criminal behavior and conflict with others.

  130. Re:How about a HERF? by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1
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  131. INDUCE by MrLint · · Score: 1

    This would seem to be what would be an violation that nasty INDUCE act. SO then the RIAA and govt should go after everyone up the food chain for something like this?

    Welcome to the high-tech dark age.

  132. Picture in Article by (C)0N0(R) · · Score: 1

    Is that Prince Markie-D of the Fat Boys?

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  133. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by sketerpot · · Score: 1

    Here is yet another misunderstanding perpetrated by the inability of traditional English punctuation to group things! I propose that curly braces be used as grouping delimiters, since it's not like we're using them anyway except in TeX. Behold: "3-{D-cell} Maglight". Better? YES! JOIN THE HOLY CRUSADE!

  134. what's also funny by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    'moron' + 'irony' = moran

    Moran: the new black.

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    1. Re:what's also funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'moron' + 'irony' = moran

      Moran: the new black.

      ROTFLOL!!! Seriously dude. That was hilarious! Was that a picture of you?

      truce. but the sig stays! LOL!

  135. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

    You've also hit upon why I carry a Bronx Calling Card, aka 3-D-cell Maglight, in my front door pocket.

    Fuck that! Wait 'till he gets out and hit him with your car!

    I once had some angry asshole get out of his car, wanting to fight after I expressed my outrage at his piss-poor driving. He got out and came towards me, so I just backed up a little to give myself room to swing and gunned the engine. It was amazing how quickly he clued in and scuttled back into his car!

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  136. one more problem... by rothfoto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    in addition to the many other problems with this that have been posted like, most people playing really loud music in a car are using a CD player and the iTrip cant overpower a radio station that is tuned in well, there is another problem.

    unless you can see into the other person's car and see the radio station they are tuned into, its gonna be a real pain to go through a bunch of stations on your iTrip to try to figure out which one they are listening to. Chances are the person bothering you will be long gone before you can figure this out. Plus because this so called "hack" doesn't increase the iTrip's broadcasting power, just its range (and only slightly) you might never be able to find out what station tehy are on because as stated elsewhere, the main radio station will probably overpower the iTrip.

    I think someone was just really excited that they found an antenna under the 'special tape' and this was a way to let everyone know about it.

  137. Re:From the obvious-if-you-think dept. by mingot · · Score: 1

    Flamebait my ass. Try "dead on balls accurate".

  138. So only YOU may drive on your street? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And only YOU pay taxes on it, right?

    1. Re:So only YOU may drive on your street? by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      Private Drive? Road Closed to Thru Traffic?

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  139. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    actually it's the niggers driving the loud cars that are responsible

  140. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

    Road rage?

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  141. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

    didn't you get the memo from the libs? Bush = Hitler

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  142. Ummm... what? by emtboy9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sorry, but I am failing to see where this is either cool, tech, neat, different, or even anywhere remotely newsworthy.

    Sorry, but I was a little disappointed. I went to the site expecting to find perhaps some hardware hacking info on the iTrip for boosting its output, or something like that... but come on now... has slashdot really gotten to the point where "if you pull the antenna out of the case, your signal will improve!"

    I mean, really. That whole thing did not take any bit of genious, or even the slightest bit of creativity. Geez... thats what the iTrip is for. Broadcasting... and it isnt the best around for that either... there are better version, and in fact, you can even get fm broadcaster kits with a good deal more transmit power than the iTrip has...

    But still, I dont see whats so special here. They are using an iPod and an FM broadcaster to do exactly what they were meant for... nothing new or special here.

    Maybe just a slow news day or something...

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  143. WTF? by DrMorpheus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If your state decides to pass concealed carry then only the "good guys" will have them?

    You're the only ex-military guy in the country? Nobody who's pissing you off could have possibly been in the military and had as much training as you did?

    Sociopaths and thugs can't "put three rounds center mass and not shed a tear"?

    I don't see how any of this is going to solve your problems.

    Try taking some martial arts classes. I think that will solve your self-defense issue AND your intimidation issues.

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  144. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And obviously you did NOT read his post. How can you call someone wrong if you don't know what he said.
    Now if you did read it, then try to say something related to what he said.
    Funding for local should be local. This cuts out the middleman (fed gov) and thier 'share' of the pie. Frankly I don't wan't the feds taking any of the money I pay towards local police and paying for porkbarrel projects with it. They can not take the money in the first and let my local gvt collect taxes to support the local police, FireFighters, and so on. This way we can get a few more of each for the same amount of $$.
    Bush didn't re-do somthing stupid, so it's his fault? Bush has issues don't get me wrong, but this idiocy of adding an extra step and overhead to police funding isn't one of them.

    Mycroft

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  145. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

    Guesse what, you have the same option every one of your examples is answered by. Move out.
    Seriously if you think socialism is such a great idea there are several countries that surviveing on it. Of course you'll only get to keep 1/3 to 1/2 of the money YOU earn, and have few to no choices other than the state system even if that system isn't so good.
    For some people this a fine way to just drift through life, and having the state take on many of thier responsibilies for them is worth the lower standard of living.
    If you cap the bottom end of a nations standard of living you also cap the top end (excepting the 'leaders' who of course get the best). You also all but elliminate any chance of those ends moving up faster than dead slow without outside help.

    Mycroft

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  146. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

    No it's not states rights vs the peoples safty. It's more about the federal government NOT cutting itself in for a share of the $$.
    How on earth is putting the federal government in the loop to take it's slice of the funding pie gonna do anything but REDUCE the funding.

    Mycroft

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  147. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

    Thank you, not great, but this thread was in dire need of humor, any humor.

    Mycroft

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  148. Bumper Sticker by Ikester8 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This car is equipped with a directional EMP device. Please turn down your stereo. Thank you.

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  149. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by EvanED · · Score: 1

    It's an awful good thing you didn't actually charge; if you had hit him, you'd be in prison for assault with a deadly weapon, and face civil remedies. With essentially the sole exception if he had a gun.

  150. out bass them haha. by luther349 · · Score: 1

    thats what i do i got a good set of boomers but i raly use them. all i do when they pull up beside at full bass is crank up my radio and turn on the amps and wala worlds greatesr country hits are overwhelimg his gangster rap. boy they get pissed but there to inbaresed to say anything couse his system got outdone by a white man lol.

  151. Up the ante, perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The question is: is the statement "If all
    firearms are made illegal, then only criminals
    will have firearms." a reasonable position to
    take for self-defense? The criminals have far
    more rights than any law-abiding citizen in the
    USA:-- just get used to it. If they break your
    door down, beat you up, and rape your wife, the
    best you can do without the risk of legal action
    (criminal or civil) is to politely ask them to
    leave. Anything more, and you may wind up paying
    for your mistakes much longer than they would.

    I would recommend talking to your local NRA
    representatives, local gunshop owners, firearms
    trainers, and sheriff's department: get a CCW
    (concealed carry weapon) license and the largest
    caliber firearm you can manage (bigger holes
    have a tendency to "anchor" the target.)

  152. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

    Are you, or have you consulted, a lawyer on this subject? I strongly suspect there is SOMTHING they can nail you on if they want (your link is to a blank page btw). I had a friend going somwhere where a sword would be appropriate (someplace where a fantasy costume made sense) and he was told that a sword, in scabbard, was a concealed weapon. When he offered to carry it out, the cop said that would be 'brandishing' a weapon.
    Now I've seen cops make stuff up to stop someone from doing somthing problematical and likely stupid, yet leagle, and that may have been the case.
    My point is that assumptions here can land you some serious problems.
    You'd be suprised how things can be interpreted in the law if you are not already familiar with said.IANAL but I have read some of the crazy things in the law books.
    I repeate IANAL

    Mycroft

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  153. Tell the RIAA by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 3, Funny
    Just tell the RIAA. These guys for sure don't have a license to publically perform the music they've bought.

    Since they probably sink all their dough into their cars, they might lose their cars in the settlement. :)

  154. MOD FUNNY by EvanED · · Score: 1

    Do it now.

  155. More like EMP by OceanWave · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a lot of the loud bass guys driving through my neighborhood on a regular basis. Since I started recording my band with microphones, I did not appreciate the extra $300 in dynamics control equipment, I had to buy, to keep their noise out of the record (as much as possible). And, forbid that they blast those things through the neighborhood at night (often).

    (a) Overloading their system with RF. Me and my dad--at the time--had a 600 watt RF amp for ham radio. I could hear him on my telephone when he was transmitting (and my stereo). I would bet that a signal well below the F3 parameter of their speaker boxes--usually ported--would ruin the drivers, if they got enough of it. Just add it to the signal...most radio receivers--and the speaker--will filter that, anyway.

    (b) For the "extreme edition"...make sure you get all your computers 20 miles a way, along with everything else you care out (even pictures on the wall). I heard a story of someone shorting out a cyclotron magnet...or the power supply that went to it.

    Rules are: You have to ramp them up slowly, and down slowly, in regards to the magnet input current. A fast change will create an expanding or collapsing field, which can store quite a bit more than a capacitor can; and is not limited to an electrical connection. The magnetic field can effect a lot of devices, just as a nearby lightning strike can.

    In the case of the cyclotron magnet. The power supply shorted...All wiring, in the immediate area, was vaporized. This included the thick stuff thay used to hang the pictures on the walls.

    In a bang everything melted, or fell to the floor.

    Interesting to see how one of those would do, if configured for that very purpose.

    On the original post...this works great if they are "listening" to the radio (bothering the neighborhood with the radio). But, if they use a CD player, jamming the frequencies just won't help, unless you pick option (b)...and please make sure you get your TV, computers, video games, wife's jewery, etc. out of the house, beforehand.

    And, I can provide (c):

    If you have a car of your own...get a few high SQL to input power treble drivers (and MONSTROUS ear protection). Put those in your car, with an oscillator you can tune from 3 to 18 kHZ. Find one of them? Pop on the protection, and give them 800 watts of something that will make you sick or give a headache at 1 watt or less.

  156. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

    You'd be in prison if you cracked his skull with a maglight too!

    At this point, my concern is self-preservation, not adhering to the niceties of the law.

    And if he had been empty-handed, I probably would have simply locked the doors and let him bash his hands bloody on my car, while calmly dialing my phone...

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  157. Or how about... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1
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  158. Two more ideas: one nonserious, one semiserious by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 1
    I've read all the replies to your post with some interest.

    (nonserious) What about pulling the Pepsi commerical thing (the guy plays classical music to get the shoppers out so he can run and buy a Pepsi) - use your money to buy a bigger system than him, and play music that drowns them out. (I know, it will only escalate things to much worse)

    (semiserious) The opposite approach - why not build a noise cancellation system? You might even be able to put a wireless microphone on your car down near the source, and then properly delay and amplify the signal to cancel out their music. Car sterios do this, why couldn't you? You could even filter it and just correct the bass frequencies, which in my experience can be the worst.

    Worst comes to worst, build a study chamber inside a larger chamber. Have the inner chamber magnetically supported by the outer chamber and a vacuum in between. (You guys may laugh, but I remember seeing an odd ad for an egg-shaped solitude chamber, maybe in Popular Mechanics, designed for the man of the house to seclude himself from his family. I wonder if any of these ever were sold.)

    1. Re:Two more ideas: one nonserious, one semiserious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "(nonserious) What about pulling the Pepsi commerical thing (the guy plays classical music to get the shoppers out so he can run and buy a Pepsi) - use your money to buy a bigger system than him, and play music that drowns them out. (I know, it will only escalate things to much worse)"

      But then he becomes the asshole. A stationary noise offender is worse than one that you know is going away in a few moments. The neighbors won't be happy.

      "Worst comes to worst, build a study chamber inside a larger chamber."

      Better yet, just buy some shooting range hearing protectors. Walmart has them for under $10. Not in-ear style; they're the headphone style. That's what I use.

      I'm sure an enterprising Slashdot reader could come up with a way to attach transducers from headphones, so that a pair of these hearing protectors could double as a cheap pair of acoustically isolated closed-back headphones.

  159. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by EvanED · · Score: 1

    You'd be in prison if you cracked his skull with a maglight too!

    Much less likely. If he was in range of your maglight, you'd have a much better claim of self-defense. It's hard to claim an immanent threat when the guy is 20 feet away and outside of your car (unless he has a gun).

  160. Comments from Bill Cosby by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 1

    As it seems your antagonists are possibly African American, a somewhat ontopic issue that I just ran across in searching is that Bill Cosby has been harshly criticizing black youth for their street behavior. (A washington post article is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A245 94-2004Jul2.html, but I don't know how to do the google partner thing. The google search is here.)

  161. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by number11 · · Score: 1

    Unlike you, our founding fathers were not socialist.

    Right on, brother! What pisses me off is this socialist road-building, subsidizing the construction, operation, and maintenance of highways and roads. (No crap about gas tax, that tax isn't anywhere near enough to pay for building roads, maintaining bridges, having cops patrol them, paying for the meat wagon to go out and scrape idiots up off of them, cleaning up 100% of the pollution and runoff caused by the users, etc.)

    Not to speak of spending billions attacking other countries that haven't done anything to us, to nail down the oil supply for gasoline for the morons who don't want to pay the full costs of driving their Hummers to work. Loonies want to attack Iraq, let 'em buy an M16 and a ticket and do it on their own dime.

  162. Guess you haven't seen Real Genius by ncttrnl · · Score: 0

    My bad

  163. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Axe hande: 40" of flame hardened Hickory, complete with purchase tag. It's stuffed along the driver side rear door.

    Anyone fucks with me and they're going to be messed up.

  164. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by epistemology · · Score: 1

    Subcorollary: Bush will eventually defend himself by blaming Clinton.

  165. Glonoinha, you're an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Violence just causes more violence.

    Read "Hegemony or Survival", by Noam Chomsky, and educate
    yourself to the truth that there are many good reasons why some people in other parts of the world are angry with the US.

    I doubt you have the balls to read a book which doesn't agree with your worldview, but I could be wrong.

    1. Re:Glonoinha, you're an idiot by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      Violence just causes more violence.

      Japan circa 1945 disagrees with you.
      They were falling all over themselves to sign a peace treaty, couldn't sign it fast enough.
      More importantly, they actually took to heart the concept of 'peaceful coexisting with the rest of the world' and changed as a people.

      Violence doesn't work at the 'eye for an eye' level. I agree with you on that.
      Violence works very well when the penalty is 1000:1, however. Raise the stakes to an immediate 1000 people per person harmed in a terrorist act; $1000 per $1 of damage caused, and watch how well the world becomes a very peaceful place.

      Do you know why so (relatively) few people drive with a blood alcohol level of .1 or higher now in America? Because the penalty is so incredibly high, so incredibly devastating not only to the guy doing it but to his entire family, and that the American government has showed time and time again that they aren't afraid to punish you and punish you big time for doing it. I like to drive under the influence, I mean I really, really like to DUI (out away from other people so I not a danger to other people) but I don't do it - because I can't afford the punishment and I'm not willing to put my family through the torture that comes as parallel punishment to them. I stopped long ago not because of morality or beliefs or anything like that - I stopped because the punishment for doing it is way beyond what I am willing to take in return.

      You raise the stakes high enough and the terrorists will stop all their terrorism. We saw this in 1945, but nobody with enough power to do anything is old enough to remember.

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    2. Re:Glonoinha, you're an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I replied to you above, but you didn't answer there, and I'm just curious enough about your answer to post one more time.

      You raise the stakes high enough and the terrorists will stop all their terrorism.

      So what would General Glonoinha do? Every time there's a terrorist attack in a city, should the US bomb it to rubble? Should we line up a hundred thousand innocents, murder them, and bury them in mass graves like Saddam?

      A) Do you seriously think that would work?

      B) Can you possibly believe that the economic (and ulitmately the physical) repercussions of that wouldn't be worse in the long run?

    3. Re:Glonoinha, you're an idiot by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      We are totally off topic, and you are an AC.
      The combination isn't particularly conducive, and it really doesn't matter what I think.

      Turning it around,
      a) Do you think that what America did in August 1945 was effective?
      b) Evaluate the economic environment in America in the two decades following August 1945.

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    4. Re:Glonoinha, you're an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a cop out. All talk and no walk.

      You went on post after post about how America is being too kind in the middle east and how overwhelming massive force is the only thing that ever works (1000 dead for every American killed, I think is the ratio you suggested), and yet when the time comes to put up or shut up, you cower in the corner and back away from the megadeaths you've claimed were necessary to keep order.

      If you'd had the courage to say "Yes, Saddam knew how to keep order in the middle east, and we should follow his example," you'd be evil, but at least you'd be making a point.

      Here's a hint for the future -- if Uday and Qusay are your role models, you're on the wrong side.

  166. "If we don't see it through to the end..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate to tell you the bad news, but : there IS no end.

    As long as the US fucks with other countries there will be reprisals.

    The far better course of action would be for the US to begin doing truly admirable things for the less advantaged countries, and lead by example.

    Force isn't going to work, ever.

    1. Re:"If we don't see it through to the end..." by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      Oh I dunno about that.

      Japan was full of militant bad-asses until about August 9th, 1945 - at which point they decided that maybe acts of terrorism (Pearl Harbor) were a bad idea and peace was a real good idea.

      You can adjust the attitude of even the most bad-ass bullies, but you have to be willing to shock and awe. What we did in Iraq the first few weeks wasn't shock and awe, it was about like what most Americans are doing in their city parks this weekend (big fireworks.) Hiroshima - now THAT was shock and awe. And it worked.

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  167. A better solution : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    follow the noise makers to the point where they stop, and shoot them dead.

    I know, this isn't politically correct, but someone has to say it.

    These scum will NEVER be any benefit to the world, and the sooner they leave it the better the world will be.

    1. Re:A better solution : by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would this be the portion of the program where we all sig hiel, or should we wait for the intermission?

  168. We don't go around shooting people in the head..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speak for yourself.

  169. IPOD IPOD IPOD IPOD IPOD......IPOD!!!!11~1!!! by Zen+Punk · · Score: 0

    Can I be an editor too? Puh-leeeaaze?

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  170. Fog horn? What about ..... by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

    A lightbar with takedown lights, and a PA

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  171. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by danila · · Score: 1

    Perhaps it was a bad idea to have one phone number for emergencies? In many countries there are separate numbers for police, ambulance, etc. For example, in Russia there is "01" for fire department, "02" for police, "03" for ambulance and "04" for gas service (to report leaks). So, unless you have a fire, a criminal/security situation, a medical emergency or a gas leak, you don't have a reason to call emergency. It's not like anyone would be stupid enough to call "02" to ask the number he forgot. In addition to that, there is no reason not to fine people who waste the time of operators.

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  172. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

    It's called prioritizing.

    It's called bullshit. We had a case here recently in England, a farmer was being terrorized by local gangs, his property stolen or destroyed, receiving threats. He asked the police for help and they did absolutely nothing. So, one evening, in desperation, he fought back with his shotgun. Yeah, the police rushed straight to the scene and arrested HIM.

    The police are basically lazy. Dealing with gangs who don't give a fuck anyway is a lot of hassle for them, and they might get hurt themselves. Dealing with a law-abiding old man, that's something they can handle, even tho' the situation would never have arisen if they'd put the donuts down and actually done their jobs in the first place.

    Prioritizing, my arse. The police, like any civil servants, couldn't care less about doing their jobs, they're just sitting around waiting to collect their fat pensions.

  173. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by bool+morpheus() · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, the emergency numbers dial you!

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  174. From the stupid equations department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If 0dB is 20microPa, then 100,000dB is 20x10^4994 Pa (I think). One Pascal is a Newton/square metre, one Newton is an acceleration of 1 m/sec/sec to a mass of 1 kilogram.

    Right, silly equation time... If a neutron star has a density of 3x10^17kg/m^3, and it hits you travelling at the speed of light (call it 3x10^8 m/s for ease), to cause a force per square metre of 20x10^4994 means it would have to stop in... 0.45x10^-4969 seconds.

    OK, we're dead. But on the plus side, it'll be over quick.

    1. Re:From the stupid equations department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, very stupid equation. It appears you are using a Newtonian formula for the behavior of an object at the speed of light. Using proper relativistic equations, any object traveling at the speed of light will exert an infinite amount of force. Getting a neutron star to light speed is left as an exercise for the reader.

  175. My methods of dealing with the BS..... by preclose · · Score: 1

    I have two methods for dealing with punks like this who feel the world needs to hear the Top 5 rap songs as dictated to them by MTV every waking minute.

    Method 1: Generally, these punks simply get some subs and park them in the trunk and call it a system. Overall their system sounds like shit. I have a system. I don't blast it in city driving but when I hit the country I'm all about it. It's set up for rock (good subs, good highs, good mids and several amps) and so the entire system is good and extremely loud. Give them a dose of their own. Roll down your windows, crank up some Metal, and watch them roll their windows up.

    Although this method is childish, it's quite funny to watch them cringe when they hear something that isn't about slapping bitches and hos and rollin', holla'in', or whatever the hell these suburbanite white kids are into these days.....

    Method 2: I just graduated from Purdue in CS and haven't found a "real" job yet so I'm doing the whole pizza delivery thing until something comes up (Hell, it pays damn good and I wouldn't mind making $150/night in tips alone next semester if I don't find something by then). Anyway, I know the speed traps extremely well. There are just certain places that the police set up shop. There is one coming into Campus right by the football stadium that is the first real shot they have at getting you. It's residential before that and they have nowhere to really set up shop. SOOOOO, when I get some jackass that pisses me off either by tailgating, or bumping their tunes, which seems to occur hand in hand I do this.....

    I star slowing down and they try to pass, but I won't let them pass. I'll keep changing lanes to keep them behind me. I will finally let them by me right as we approach the well known speed trap. They will, in a show of ultimate badassness, floor it and blaze by me at about 50-60 or more in a 35 zone. I call it "asshole fishing." Right now I'm two for about 20 tries, as in two people nailed for about 20 or so attempts at this.

    Anyway, that's how I deal with it.....Gives me more satisfaction than wasting my time trying to jam their CD player with an FM signal.....

  176. Hormones and Brain Size, and stupid ./'ers.... by Yoquimbo · · Score: 0
    ...They win every time. Seriously, if you look at this thread and see how many people respond to this with aggravation toward the dude who decided to try to piss someone off the way HE had been pissed off, it's easy to see that most people (/.ers since they're just fux0r1ng geeks of one sort or another) are just a bunch of pansies. They would rather see the @ssh0le go free on his merry way to piss entire tracts of people off with his 1000w sub than deal with the clash that happens when someone stands up to them.


    These guys, the ones in the cars etc, are the scum of the planet. They're the shitheads who get kicked out of school, the scumbags who've been born into money and whose parents buy them everything their spoiled asses want. See it all the time here, at least twice I know of in the last year people have been hit and killed by streetracers in my city. Oh, and to top it all off the guys who hit them are like 17-18, just got a car for their birthday too, because after all, who needs to do anything useful when mommie and daddie are paying for a $40000 machine to play with? They're the steroid pumped drug dealers (and I know this one for 100% sure, seen it a lot) that believe the pumped music is announcing to everyone in range that THEY are the BADDEST. Never mind that it's 2:30AM in a residential Suburb full of geriatric chinese people. Nope, to them, they're cruising the 'hood and they're just as bad as they can be with their tunes pumping. Makes them feel slightly less insecure about having such a small dick.


    The people that get irate at someone who actually does anything about it (not that this guy actually did anything, he just pissed on off... Heh) are a bunch of weak willed little pansies. They'd rather have their secure little world where nothing changes, and nobody rocks the boat. After all, what would life be without comically shaking one's fist at the jackasses who rove about in their cars, speeding through school zones.


    Anyway, this is the point:

    (Aggression)=(Small Brain)


    Honestly, I think the /. idiots who flame this guy are worse than the bloody streetracing homos. Next time you go out to try to piss a guy off, better be prepared to deal with it though. If he lives 2 blocks from you, or goes there frequently, call the cops. Beating the living shit out of people like that does virtually nothing, they're too dense to understand and they go and slash tires and break windows. Then you have to kill them.

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  177. Must have good insurance (video) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, we Dutch have seen the commercial and now you can too:

    The boombox car

  178. I prefer my HERF for this by mwilliamson · · Score: 1

    Sometimes thumpers listen to their own CD's/ipods, not broadcast radio. A HERF weapon made from a powerful microwave oven's magnatron and a big parabolic antenna can work wonders! If that doesn't shut them up I squeeze off a few seconds of my car mounted gatlin gun. If they're armored (like some of the gang kids are) I use a sidewinder missle. Since the sidewinders are a bit expensive, I'm currently experimenting with a bumper-mounted railgun. When I'm feeling particually nostalgic, I keep a bazooka in the trunk.

  179. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Zorilla · · Score: 1

    Either that or practice good writing and use the verbal form of numbers below 100 when writing in a nontechnical context or describing something such as a person's age. (i.e. Three D-cell Maglite)

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  180. Three's a Charm by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    So finally I follow one of these guys to see where he ended up. I honked my horn rythmically as I drove by.

    You stopped too soon. Once you've lured the boob out of your neighborhood, you could use several of the other techniques mentioned here such as the HERF gun to disable the electronics in his car leaving him stranded (without the solace of music) or the suggestion of using a combination of 2.5k candlepower flashlight pointed in the offender's face and maybe an airhorn (while wearing ear-protection)

    MjM

  181. Obligatory Steve-O: Don't Try This at Home quote by Zorilla · · Score: 1

    "Hi, I'm Steve-O, and in Arizona, this is totally legal..."

    (opens huge fucking spring loaded swiss army knife)

    "Dude, it's, like, a sword!"

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  182. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by sketerpot · · Score: 1
    That's not a HOLY CRUSADE!

    Spoilsport.

  183. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by dizzyduck · · Score: 1

    While you do have the right to use reasonable force to defend yourself, I don't think the Tony Martin case was as clear cut as it first seemed to be.

    He was not acting out of self defence, but vengence. The shooting was premeditated. He did not shoot out of panic or fear. Without warning, shot three times. That's not self defence.

    He did not have a licence for the shotgun. Self defence or not, it's not acceptable for people to have unlicenced firearms.

    I can only imagine the grief he must've gone through being repeatedly burgled, but excessive force was used. Note that I am in no way defending those yobs who broke in. They should've been locked up ages ago.

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  184. Bite me moderator by DrMorpheus · · Score: 1

    WTF was flamebaitish about what I posted?

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  185. WOW!! by IloveMorphine · · Score: 0

    holy shit!!! i dont own an IPOD but this is the coolest thing i've heard about all year... god how i'd love to pull this stunt on all the fucking niggers blasting hip hop...

  186. Re: Totally off topic. by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

    I answered your question and backed it up with facts. You just lacked the ability to understand, driven by a lack of historical understanding if I had to guess.

    a) Do you think that what America did in August 1945 was effective?

    You were supposed to understand (acknowledge) that yes, it was very effective, and because it was effective (fact) I was in effect saying it was what was going to be necessary to convert the unconvertables from terrorists into peaceful people. Until you have a firm grasp of that the Quran (Koran) says about 'the Infidels' (that's the US) and how the groups that make up Al Qaeda believe on a fundamental level, a show of force of Hiroshima proportions can't be justified. Once you have a firm grasp of the forces at play and what it will take to convert the unconvertables from terrorists into a peaceful people, understanding that no lesser force will suffice and until the US plays its 'we are not fucking around anymore' card the world will live in fear of terrorism ... only then will you understand and appreciate the need in unleashing the four horsemen. It may not be the only way, but I'm willing to give it a chance - you honestly don't need to drop too many nukes before 'the bad guys' decide to give peace a chance, once again a 100% known fact as proved in 1945. We tried the peaceful approach, and it was taken as weakness, actually encouraging the terrorists to attack us; we are dealing with a group that only respects force.

    b) Evaluate the economic environment in America in the two decades following August 1945.

    The good (factual) answer I was looking for from you, in support of my hypothesis, was that the US experienced a most incredible buildup in economic power in the 20 years following Hiroshima. Advances in medicine, science, art, and engineering at unprecedented levels propelled the US into an economic prosperity unheard of in global history, allowing us to put men on the moon, eradicate smallpox, and create several polution free sources of energy to drive the next generations of the world. The US would be so lucky as to go through that sort of economic revival again, living in a world free of fear, fear of terrorism.

    Uday and Qusay are not my role models, at least not that I'm aware of ... Ronald Reagan (as he was in 1980), however, would be handling the current issues a lot more like anyone I might have hoped for - compare and contrast how Iraq handled the hostage situation when they were dealing with Jimmy Carter, and how they handled it when they were dealing with Reagan. (Answer, saving us a round trip to AC land : Reagan was eager to drop some serious shit on anybody fucking with us, and Iraq knew it. The hostages came home the day that Reagan took office.) The Islamic extremists that were at work then are the same Islamic extremists at work today. If 25 years of peaceful dealings with them didn't convert them to a peaceful group, maybe peace isn't the answer. It took about 15 seconds to convert Japan from warmongers to peaceful - maybe that's what it is going to take with the Islamic extremists.

    If you disagree with me, what do you suggest will be a 100% effective way to bring peace to the Middle East? I am sure Israel would listen, maybe even GWB would take it under consideration.

    What this has to do with iPods I have no clue. Mods, feel free to hammer on these as off topic.

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  187. Re: Totally off topic. by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

    Ack shit. Substitute Iran for Iraq in the third big paragraph. I'm pretty eager to admit it when I make a mistake, and that was a pretty good one.

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  188. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by iamacat · · Score: 1

    And in this way, a low-income, high-crime area will have an excellent, local source of funding for their police? Talk about vicious circles!

  189. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While that was a lame stab at Bush, you don't seem to get the point of the comment about the Guard. The National Guard is supposed to be defending us at home, not overseas. If Bush - or rather, the fuckwit neocons pulling the strings - had deployed the much larger force we needed to take and stabilize Iraq in the first place, maybe we wouldn't be so short. My coworker is in the Florida National Guard, and I haven't seen him since 9/11 (2001).

    While it may be the central principal of federalism, associating that term with Bush, or anyone in the modern incarnation of the Republican party, is ridiculous. Politicians these days pick and choose when it suits their agenda. Sure, when you want to attempt to keep handguns out of the hands of criminals they're all for state's rights, but then they'll push for a constitutional amendment to outlaw gay marriage. Fucking hypocrites, it makes me sick.

    And saying that "people like him are what's wrong with this country" is a bit of a stretch, unless you just mean people who make uneducated polemics, which comes from both sides of the aisle.

  190. Part of the problem with 911 abuse... by elakazal · · Score: 1

    Half the time it's made next to impossible to call the police without calling 911. A year back, I got rear-ended by some idiot girl. The police stopped, took all the requisite notes, statements etc. However, I'd forgotten to put my new insurance card in the glove compartment. The police officer said it wasn't a problem, since I wasn't at fault, but that I needed to provide some sort of documentation, and said that I should just drop it off at the police station some time when he was there and he'd take care of it.

    So I go home, find the insurance info, and the next day I go to call to find out if he's there. There is absolutely no listing for the police in the phone book for the police station except 911. I try online. 911. I call information. 911. I even called the city hall, figuring they would having dealings with the police. They told me 911. I told them it wasn't an emergency. Oh, well then don't call 911. Well, what should I call? They didn't know.

    Eventually I just drove down there, paid a fortune in parking fees, and stood around forever while they tried to figure out if Officer Whatever was there.

    The best is I got to do it all again a month later, when my garbage can was stolen. The trash pick-up people wouldn't give us another one of the super-special trash receptacles until we got a police report. Of course, they didn't have a number. This time I just called 911 about it and got a lecture. And the best is, the 911 operator, after lecturing me, didn't know what number I should have called.

  191. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

    Low income, high crime areas seldom cover an entire state or even city.
    Besides you can not expect the police to do everything to get rid of crime. In fact the supreem court has even ruled that the police have a duty to the community as a whole, not to specific individuals, If you expect the police to save you everytime, sooner or later your going to find out they can't be everywhere at once and are not expected to be.
    If the local citizens aren't involved it won't go away anyway. This is part of what the second amendment helps with. Gun ownership deters crime.
    I don't want to live in a nany state where the federal government wipes my nose for me and tells what to eat, think, and do.

    Mycroft

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  192. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by iamacat · · Score: 1

    If the local citizens aren't involved it won't go away anyway. This is part of what the second amendment helps with. Gun ownership deters crime.

    Are you saying I should be required to learn how to kill people in order to feel safe walking on the street? I think I would rather let trained professionals kill criminals when necessary.

    Besides, while bank robbers already have guns, muggers and agressive beggers generally don't. If everyone just walks around with weapons, some will inevitibly get stollen. Do you really want me to shoot a homeless guy knocking on my car window because his face looks crazy and I have to assume he is armed?

  193. Re:911 abuse, noise ordinances, police reports, et by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

    Not necessarily you. Just that fact that an area has a high gun ownership tends to scare crooks away. they don't want to get shot, and when they can't tell who's armed and who's not why would they risk it?
    If you are going to depend on 'trained professionals' everytime to deal with violent criminals you had best hope not to ever meet violence of that sort face to face. Unless of course you plan on hiring a body guard. Police, by the nature of thier job, only deter crime as a side effect. Thier main purpose is to solve crimes after the fact and arrest people.
    Crooks who steal guns do NOT generaly go after people carrying them, slight problem with getting shot for trying. And again even if a few get stolen, do you think most crooks are stupid enough to try and use one in a crime when any number of passersby just might be able to put an end to thier ways suddenly? And if they do what are thier odds of surviving for a second try.
    A disarmed populace on the otherhand is easy pickings for criminal, because they will still have thier guns. Even if they didn't odds are they will have some sort of advantage. Guns are called the great equalizer for reason, they enable a 60 year old grandma to stop a husky 25year old from beating her up for her tv and spare cash.
    So even if your not willing to defend yourself and your familly, please don't argue the rest of us shouldn't be allowed to. Especially since you'll benifit from our willingness to do so.

    Mycroft

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