But beyond the congratulatory e-mail and the negotiation of mailing addresses and payment methods is there more to the e-bay community?
Actually, yes, I think so. I've just started to collect Remote Control Cars from Tamiya, which I used to own as a kid. eBay is a great place to find all this stuff, sometimes 20 years old, but brand new.
The coolest thing, IMHO though is the people I've met through usually an initial purchase.
A lot of the time these guys already have a large collection, and will ask if you need more parts. Before you know it you are not only exchanging parts, but also stories. It's quite fun. They all know each other from before I started this, so I would certainly call it a community.
There's a guy in Japan that's now actually looking for parts for me, and considering the time he spent and the price of the parts, he can't do it just for the money.
An other guy has a great website, but his provider inserts pop-ups, so I offered to host his stuff for free.
So I'm basically staying in touch with quite a few of them. This wouldn't have happened pre-eBay, because there would have been no place to start. eBay has made the desire to sell a lot greater, so even for people with nothing to begin with, it's relatively easy to build up a collection quickly. All you need is $$$$;)
I know this is grandly off-topic, but how do they manage to take an areal photograph, with the mirrored image being an office, including office-chairs and a person sitting in one?
If you don't see it, look closer, you'll see what I mean,- the chairs are red.
Now, I've been in quite a few business jets, actually, but I've never seen one with chairs like that.;)
I can't believe you guys are posting links to websites that obviously hold illegal copies of the works I recorded somewhere in the 70's called 'Silence'.
You'd better get ready for my RIAA lawyer, because everytime a moment of 'Silence' is heard, royalties are due! So the next time you hear nothing but 'Silence' think of me, the poor artist, who should be compensated for this (lengthy) piece of work, but who's work instead got stolen just because the compression ratios of the piece turned out to be particularly favorable.
To stay one hundred percent on topic, bad-mouthing ATI, I personally love the spec: "Component video out put for HDTV support"
Show me where I can buy this today.
They DO NOT DELIVER this today. I know, because I bought the card with that in mind. It's a supposed option that's been anounced for months now (like > half a year) and nothing has transpired.
In what may be a first for the recording industry, Maverick Records and Vivendi Universal's online division are asking listeners to pay just under a dollar for an unprotected MP3 version of a new single.
Yeah, you'd almost think they are ahead of their time. Music over the Internet? That's just crazy talk.
The funny part about this (as I understand it) is that its entirely unecessary to have DeCSS to copy a DVD. DeCSS was only to play the dvd.
Well, to set the record straight, this is not entirely correct.
First of all, you _can_ copy a DVD if it is not CSS encrypted.
If a DVD is CSS encrypted, you can still copy the data, but it will remain CSS encrypted, and thus useless (e.g. it won't play normally) unless you have the keys to decrypt the data.
These keys are stored on the DVD disk, but are NOT directly accesible to the software (consider it a 'hidden' part on the disk). You need to enter into a dialog with the DVD player hardware, which requires the ability to crypt CSS data (aka DeCSS).
There are algorithms that brute-force find the keys, but in my experience they don't always work that well and are rather slow.
If you are thinking about copying DVDs with a DVD recorder, forget about it. a) the DVD keys will NOT be copied, so you end up with a useless DVD and b) a lot of DVDs are > 4.7GB (look at the spec for DVD recorders to see why that is a problem).
Of course what some people do is use a licensed software DVD decoder and pipe the output to an MPEG-4 encoder, but this is not a 100% accurate copy by any means.
So, esentially, to copy a DVD, DeCSS (or a derivative) is still very helpful.
Regarding playback: If you copied data from a CSS encrypted DVD to your harddrive, even a licensed DVD player will not play it back properly, because it would not be able to obtain the keys. The only way to do that is to decrypt the data before you run the licensed software player.
Most folks seem to agree with the basic premise that without the GNU toolset, there would be no Linux
This is NOT the point.
The thing I finally realized reading this article by RMS is that he's not just talking about a compiler (or toolset), but rather the whole GNU system,- and that's NOT just a bunch of software, but also the politics behind it, best described by the GPL!
Without the GNU compiler, Linux could have still existed, there _are_ other compilers/editors out there. BUT, without the GPL license it would not be what it has become. And THAT is what's important, and why GNU deserves, or rather NEEDS credit.
I feel that RMS is not so much personally pissy about not getting credit, but rather wants more emphasis on the 'political' background that was instrumental in creating this piece of software. Torvalds did not write Linux alone, and without the GPL a lot of folks would not have contributed. It's important that people realize that.
I strongly believe that it's not a matter that GNU DESERVES credit, but rather NEEDS the credit, in order for people to understand the significance of Free Software. Or more, how that's what enabled the creation of such a piece of software.
Think of this: M$ would think twice before ripping out a large portion of Linux to include it into one of their closed source projects. Is this because Torvalds is such a dangerous guy, or because of the strength of the GPL?
The result of one of these flying into a building would be similar to me bouncing a marshmallow off of your forehead.
Uhm, not exactly. These things do have a structure, it's not a balloon.
So it's maybe more like throwing, say, an egg at your forehead. (unboiled)
The difference between a Jet hitting a building and a Dirigible hitting one is then more comparable to me throwing the egg versus using a high power canon to fire the egg at your forehead.
Be warned though, I _can_ throw it hard enough to do some damage.
UIs should be better. (or at least that's what I figured from the clip).
And I fully agree. User Interfaces, or more precisely, User Interaction, largely sucks. In fact it's one of the things why the Linux Desktop is not going to be mainstream any time soon.
User Interaction sucks so much today, it's not even funny. It's also amazing how easy it is to fix some of the most fundamental stupidities.
For example, the annoyance of 'message boxen'. Let's say you quit your Word Processor. Why does it ask you whether you want to save your file? Is it because 10 years ago a 100 KB file was something significant to store on your disk, or is it because it makes sense?
Like, you just type 200 words for fun and now you want to forget about it, all the time. The majority of times you WILL want to save it. Still programs insist on asking this kind of crap. Prefferably with an ambiguous question and a 'yes, no, cancel' option.
Consider a system where there's an UNDO feature which is system wide. So not only can you undo the last pixel you have modified in Photoshop, you can also undo the deletion of 500 files you just figured was not such a great idea after all.
Now instead of the file manager asking you 'do you really really really want to delete these files?', it doesn't have to. You can always hit Ctrl-Z to go one step back.
In other words, the computer will do what you want, and it needs no confirmation because if it interpreted what you wanted to do wrong, things can be undone.
The confirmation thing is totally ass-backwards, because you already indicated that you did want a certain thing, but just because it has been historically difficult to reverse certain actions TECHNICALLY, we are being bothered by stupid message boxen on a too frequent basis.
A lot of the User Interaction paradigms today are loaded with legacy 'dependencies' that we really ought to get rid off. I could go on and on, but there's only so much rambling one can do in one day.
Everyone knows that driving under influence is dangerous and can lead to accidents. Why do "software architects" think this is different when someone writes important programs?
Yeah, because driving a car and coding is EXACTLY the same thing.
- When the controller is waiting on one command, it can issue other commands while it's waiting
This is exactly why it's NOT a good idea to have two IDE devices on the same cable, if you expect that both will be used at the same time. Such as your HD and CDROM.
IDE allows for only one transaction to be active on the cable, until it's entirely completed. So for example you can not issue a read to the HD, then while waiting for the HD to become ready for transfer, issue a read to the CDROM. You have to wait until the HD is ready, and transfer the data, and THEN you can only access the next device.
A big shortcomming, that's why it's nice to have a board with a RAID controller, just for the extra IDE interfaces.
Perhaps that's because LCD's don't have refresh rates? The are not driven by an electron beam scanning back and forth?
IF your LCD has a 'refresh rate' of 70hz that just means that the conversion circuitry that takes your analog VGA signal works at 70hz. There is absolutely no reason to make it work any faster, because the effect does not propagate to the visible screen...
Well, it's not uncommon that total bullshit is moderated up to +5 informative here.
Next time back up your stuff with some links that supports what you are saying?
LCDs DO have a refresh (or update) rate, and the pattern actually is similar to an electron beam in non-interlaced mode. The difference is that it's not as noticable (see link as for why). It's driven by a dot-clock which drives the speed at which the individual pixels on the LCD are updated.
Your magic 'conversion circuitry' is what actually drives the dot-clock (at least in a properly designed LCD)
The biggest issue with LCDs is lag of the pixels (especially when going from 'turned on' - black, to 'turned off' - white). It doesn't make sense the update an LCD much faster than the response time of the Liquid Crystal, but that all depends on the specific LCD.
... you're closer to the truth than you probably realize. The budget on Brian de Palma's awful Mission to Mars [imdb.com] was US $90 million... more than 75% of the budget [nasa.gov] of an equally-flawed but substantially better-intended real-life mission
What I read at your link is:
Project Cost $110 million for spacecraft development, $10 million mission operations; total $120 million (not includding launch vehicle or Deep Space 2 microprobes). (Emphasis mine).
That seems some pretty non-trivial stuff that's left out for the sake of getting 'reasonable' figures.
In any case, the overal budget for NASA isn't even in the order-of-magnitude type of range to the cost of a single project like this,- lets not fool ourselves.
Here's the article, in case the site gets slashdot'd. Which for some reason just isn't happening.
The web servers are obviously holding up pretty good, right now, but it goes without saying that they will eventually melt under the magnificent load.
And since I am the first one to realize this, I should deserve plenty Karma.
Now, you can all moderate me down, whilst the thing is still going strong, but in the morning, when all there is, is the smoking remains, and this one simple post, my revenge will be sweet.
Without further adoo:
5th District GOP hopeful wants sci-fi to aid NASA
Williams sees tax on science fiction books as space funding solution
04/22/02
From Staff Reports
Michael Williams, a Republican candidate for the 5th Congressional District seat, has a novel plan to fully fund NASA: Tax science fiction.
Williams proposes a 1 percent "NASA tax" on science fiction books, science fiction comic books, space sciences books and any other space-related literature.
The tax would also apply to "space, space-related, and science fiction toys, puzzles and games," Williams said in a listing of his platform.
He also proposes increasing tax depreciation for research and development expenses to at least equal similar tax breaks granted by European governments. Several other tax breaks he proposes include investment tax credits and a 3- to 5-percent tax cut for the middle class.
A pro-life candidate, Williams also promises if elected to sponsor a bill that would allow abortions only in cases of rape, incest or for medical reasons. He also favors providing money for medical research to perform "pre-birth" adoptions, which "will allow for the safe removal of unborn children from their mothers that does not harm the mothers or the unborn children."
Congressional candidate calls for 'global grand convention' Sci-fi Continued from page B1 Williams wants Congress to adopt a resolution establishing a "global grand convention" that would ensure all inhabitants of Earth the same basic rights found in the U.S. Constitution.
His resolution would also require holding a constitutional convention when 30,000 colonists have settled or been born "on the moon, Mars or any other celestial body besides the Earth."
A Hampton Cove resident, Williams, 28, holds a master's degree in political science from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and a bachelor's degree in business management from Athens State University. He works at Publix Super Market at Hampton Cove.
He is a graduate of Madison County High School, a member of the Huntsville/Madison County Chamber of Commerce and the North Alabama African-American Chamber of Commerce.
Williams faces Stephen Engel of Athens in the June 4 GOP primary. The winner faces U.S. Rep. Bud Cramer, D-Huntsville, in November.
I bought an 8500DV late last year because of it's soon to be released component output cable. It was touted as the best solution for home entertainment systems because of the component video output, not available in any other graphics card.
We are now half a year further and no component output cable. The FAQ dully states:
Q12: Is component output enabled with the initial shipment? When is it available? How do I get component output?
A12: No, component output will not be available with the initial shipment. It will be available in 2002. You will be able to purchase an upgrade package from ATI with an adapter to connect your graphics card to your HDTV through YPbPr.
Great, so that will be, what, 31st December 2002?
It's amazing how companies get away with these kind of false promises. Several emails asking for a more specific timeframe went unanswered (after requiring me to go through a rediculous amount of trouble finding a way to actually get a proper email address).
An other important thing to mention that I keep running into: NEVER trust information on a web-page. The company will modify it without any record of the previous version (only a few weeks and it's out of Google cache as well), leaving you with no prove whatsoever.
But beyond the congratulatory e-mail and the negotiation of mailing addresses and payment methods is there more to the e-bay community?
;)
Actually, yes, I think so. I've just started to collect Remote Control Cars from Tamiya, which I used to own as a kid. eBay is a great place to find all this stuff, sometimes 20 years old, but brand new.
The coolest thing, IMHO though is the people I've met through usually an initial purchase.
A lot of the time these guys already have a large collection, and will ask if you need more parts. Before you know it you are not only exchanging parts, but also stories. It's quite fun. They all know each other from before I started this, so I would certainly call it a community.
There's a guy in Japan that's now actually looking for parts for me, and considering the time he spent and the price of the parts, he can't do it just for the money.
An other guy has a great website, but his provider inserts pop-ups, so I offered to host his stuff for free.
So I'm basically staying in touch with quite a few of them. This wouldn't have happened pre-eBay, because there would have been no place to start. eBay has made the desire to sell a lot greater, so even for people with nothing to begin with, it's relatively easy to build up a collection quickly. All you need is $$$$
I know this is grandly off-topic, but how do they manage to take an areal photograph, with the mirrored image being an office, including office-chairs and a person sitting in one?
;)
If you don't see it, look closer, you'll see what I mean,- the chairs are red.
Now, I've been in quite a few business jets, actually, but I've never seen one with chairs like that.
I can't believe you guys are posting links to websites that obviously hold illegal copies of the works I recorded somewhere in the 70's called 'Silence'.
You'd better get ready for my RIAA lawyer, because everytime a moment of 'Silence' is heard, royalties are due! So the next time you hear nothing but 'Silence' think of me, the poor artist, who should be compensated for this (lengthy) piece of work, but who's work instead got stolen just because the compression ratios of the piece turned out to be particularly favorable.
To stay one hundred percent on topic, bad-mouthing ATI, I personally love the spec:
"Component video out put for HDTV support"
Show me where I can buy this today.
They DO NOT DELIVER this today. I know, because I bought the card with that in mind. It's a supposed option that's been anounced for months now (like > half a year) and nothing has transpired.
The last time I bought ATI.
if you had the intellectual property rights to all of Frank Sinatra's songs for example, what do you do??????
Auction them off on eBay as fast as I could.
In fact the only intrusion is that you get an extra choice in your menu of recorded programmes
I honestly can't see anything wrong with this as it is not intrusive in the slightest
And tomorrow you will not be able to find what you intended to record between all the 'Tivo enforced' recordings. Nuff said.
In what may be a first for the recording industry, Maverick Records and Vivendi Universal's online division are asking listeners to pay just under a dollar for an unprotected MP3 version of a new single.
Yeah, you'd almost think they are ahead of their time. Music over the Internet? That's just crazy talk.
The funny part about this (as I understand it) is that its entirely unecessary to have DeCSS to copy a DVD. DeCSS was only to play the dvd.
Well, to set the record straight, this is not entirely correct.
First of all, you _can_ copy a DVD if it is not CSS encrypted.
If a DVD is CSS encrypted, you can still copy the data, but it will remain CSS encrypted, and thus useless (e.g. it won't play normally) unless you have the keys to decrypt the data.
These keys are stored on the DVD disk, but are NOT directly accesible to the software (consider it a 'hidden' part on the disk). You need to enter into a dialog with the DVD player hardware, which requires the ability to crypt CSS data (aka DeCSS).
There are algorithms that brute-force find the keys, but in my experience they don't always work that well and are rather slow.
If you are thinking about copying DVDs with a DVD recorder, forget about it. a) the DVD keys will NOT be copied, so you end up with a useless DVD and b) a lot of DVDs are > 4.7GB (look at the spec for DVD recorders to see why that is a problem).
Of course what some people do is use a licensed software DVD decoder and pipe the output to an MPEG-4 encoder, but this is not a 100% accurate copy by any means.
So, esentially, to copy a DVD, DeCSS (or a derivative) is still very helpful.
Regarding playback: If you copied data from a CSS encrypted DVD to your harddrive, even a licensed DVD player will not play it back properly, because it would not be able to obtain the keys. The only way to do that is to decrypt the data before you run the licensed software player.
Most folks seem to agree with the basic premise that without the GNU toolset, there would be no Linux
This is NOT the point.
The thing I finally realized reading this article by RMS is that he's not just talking about a compiler (or toolset), but rather the whole GNU system,- and that's NOT just a bunch of software, but also the politics behind it, best described by the GPL!
Without the GNU compiler, Linux could have still existed, there _are_ other compilers/editors out there. BUT, without the GPL license it would not be what it has become. And THAT is what's important, and why GNU deserves, or rather NEEDS credit.
I feel that RMS is not so much personally pissy about not getting credit, but rather wants more emphasis on the 'political' background that was instrumental in creating this piece of software. Torvalds did not write Linux alone, and without the GPL a lot of folks would not have contributed. It's important that people realize that.
I strongly believe that it's not a matter that GNU DESERVES credit, but rather NEEDS the credit, in order for people to understand the significance of Free Software. Or more, how that's what enabled the creation of such a piece of software.
Think of this: M$ would think twice before ripping out a large portion of Linux to include it into one of their closed source projects. Is this because Torvalds is such a dangerous guy, or because of the strength of the GPL?
Yeah and what about the current high bidder. (at a mere $1.1 million), he's got a eBay page up saying:
"currently at high school, i try to be the best e-bayer as possible. although young, i hold a job at a private company as the professional webmaster"
Jesus christ, I must be doing something terribly wrong...
The result of one of these flying into a building would be similar to me bouncing a marshmallow off of your forehead.
Uhm, not exactly. These things do have a structure, it's not a balloon.
So it's maybe more like throwing, say, an egg at your forehead. (unboiled)
The difference between a Jet hitting a building and a Dirigible hitting one is then more comparable to me throwing the egg versus using a high power canon to fire the egg at your forehead.
Be warned though, I _can_ throw it hard enough to do some damage.
Nothing to do with your beloved anime show, and the logical connection is tenuous at best.
Yeah, but it's obviously a great strategy if you want your article posted.
There are only 2 remaining companies in this world that design and build 300+ passenger commercial aircraft (Boeing and Airbus)
;)
Yeah, never mind the Russians.
UIs should be better. (or at least that's what I figured from the clip).
And I fully agree. User Interfaces, or more precisely, User Interaction, largely sucks. In fact it's one of the things why the Linux Desktop is not going to be mainstream any time soon.
User Interaction sucks so much today, it's not even funny. It's also amazing how easy it is to fix some of the most fundamental stupidities.
For example, the annoyance of 'message boxen'. Let's say you quit your Word Processor. Why does it ask you whether you want to save your file? Is it because 10 years ago a 100 KB file was something significant to store on your disk, or is it because it makes sense?
Like, you just type 200 words for fun and now you want to forget about it, all the time. The majority of times you WILL want to save it. Still programs insist on asking this kind of crap. Prefferably with an ambiguous question and a 'yes, no, cancel' option.
Consider a system where there's an UNDO feature which is system wide. So not only can you undo the last pixel you have modified in Photoshop, you can also undo the deletion of 500 files you just figured was not such a great idea after all.
Now instead of the file manager asking you 'do you really really really want to delete these files?', it doesn't have to. You can always hit Ctrl-Z to go one step back.
In other words, the computer will do what you want, and it needs no confirmation because if it interpreted what you wanted to do wrong, things can be undone.
The confirmation thing is totally ass-backwards, because you already indicated that you did want a certain thing, but just because it has been historically difficult to reverse certain actions TECHNICALLY, we are being bothered by stupid message boxen on a too frequent basis.
A lot of the User Interaction paradigms today are loaded with legacy 'dependencies' that we really ought to get rid off. I could go on and on, but there's only so much rambling one can do in one day.
Everyone knows that driving under influence is dangerous and can lead to accidents. Why do "software architects" think this is different when someone writes important programs?
Yeah, because driving a car and coding is EXACTLY the same thing.
What utter crap. Keep on trolling.
Just to clarify something you wrote:
- When the controller is waiting on one command, it can issue other commands while it's waiting
This is exactly why it's NOT a good idea to have two IDE devices on the same cable, if you expect that both will be used at the same time. Such as your HD and CDROM.
IDE allows for only one transaction to be active on the cable, until it's entirely completed. So for example you can not issue a read to the HD, then while waiting for the HD to become ready for transfer, issue a read to the CDROM. You have to wait until the HD is ready, and transfer the data, and THEN you can only access the next device.
A big shortcomming, that's why it's nice to have a board with a RAID controller, just for the extra IDE interfaces.
Perhaps that's because LCD's don't have refresh rates? The are not driven by an electron beam scanning back and forth?
IF your LCD has a 'refresh rate' of 70hz that just means that the conversion circuitry that takes your analog VGA signal works at 70hz. There is absolutely no reason to make it work any faster, because the effect does not propagate to the visible screen...
Well, it's not uncommon that total bullshit is moderated up to +5 informative here.
Next time back up your stuff with some links that supports what you are saying?
LCDs DO have a refresh (or update) rate, and the pattern actually is similar to an electron beam in non-interlaced mode. The difference is that it's not as noticable (see link as for why). It's driven by a dot-clock which drives the speed at which the individual pixels on the LCD are updated.
Your magic 'conversion circuitry' is what actually drives the dot-clock (at least in a properly designed LCD)
The biggest issue with LCDs is lag of the pixels (especially when going from 'turned on' - black, to 'turned off' - white). It doesn't make sense the update an LCD much faster than the response time of the Liquid Crystal, but that all depends on the specific LCD.
We all know how well the 'silence' strategy works!
;-)
Sorry guys,
... you're closer to the truth than you probably realize. The budget on Brian de Palma's awful Mission to Mars [imdb.com] was US $90 million... more than 75% of the budget [nasa.gov] of an equally-flawed but substantially better-intended real-life mission
What I read at your link is:
Project Cost
$110 million for spacecraft development, $10 million mission operations; total $120 million (not includding launch vehicle or Deep Space 2 microprobes). (Emphasis mine).
That seems some pretty non-trivial stuff that's left out for the sake of getting 'reasonable' figures.
In any case, the overal budget for NASA isn't even in the order-of-magnitude type of range to the cost of a single project like this,- lets not fool ourselves.
Here's the article, in case the site gets slashdot'd. Which for some reason just isn't happening.
The web servers are obviously holding up pretty good, right now, but it goes without saying that they will eventually melt under the magnificent load.
And since I am the first one to realize this, I should deserve plenty Karma.
Now, you can all moderate me down, whilst the thing is still going strong, but in the morning, when all there is, is the smoking remains, and this one simple post, my revenge will be sweet.
Without further adoo:
5th District GOP hopeful wants sci-fi to aid NASA
Williams sees tax on science fiction books as space funding solution
04/22/02
From Staff Reports
Michael Williams, a Republican candidate for the 5th Congressional District seat, has a novel plan to fully fund NASA: Tax science fiction.
Williams proposes a 1 percent "NASA tax" on science fiction books, science fiction comic books, space sciences books and any other space-related literature.
The tax would also apply to "space, space-related, and science fiction toys, puzzles and games," Williams said in a listing of his platform.
He also proposes increasing tax depreciation for research and development expenses to at least equal similar tax breaks granted by European governments. Several other tax breaks he proposes include investment tax credits and a 3- to 5-percent tax cut for the middle class.
A pro-life candidate, Williams also promises if elected to sponsor a bill that would allow abortions only in cases of rape, incest or for medical reasons. He also favors providing money for medical research to perform "pre-birth" adoptions, which "will allow for the safe removal of unborn children from their mothers that does not harm the mothers or the unborn children."
Congressional candidate calls for 'global grand convention' Sci-fi Continued from page B1 Williams wants Congress to adopt a resolution establishing a "global grand convention" that would ensure all inhabitants of Earth the same basic rights found in the U.S. Constitution.
His resolution would also require holding a constitutional convention when 30,000 colonists have settled or been born "on the moon, Mars or any other celestial body besides the Earth."
A Hampton Cove resident, Williams, 28, holds a master's degree in political science from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and a bachelor's degree in business management from Athens State University. He works at Publix Super Market at Hampton Cove.
He is a graduate of Madison County High School, a member of the Huntsville/Madison County Chamber of Commerce and the North Alabama African-American Chamber of Commerce.
Williams faces Stephen Engel of Athens in the June 4 GOP primary. The winner faces U.S. Rep. Bud Cramer, D-Huntsville, in November.
It's supposed to be a cable from DVI to component. I'd think that should warrant for pretty damn good quality.
I bought an 8500DV late last year because of it's soon to be released component output cable. It was touted as the best solution for home entertainment systems because of the component video output, not available in any other graphics card.
We are now half a year further and no component output cable. The FAQ dully states:
Q12: Is component output enabled with the initial shipment? When is it available? How do I get component output?
A12: No, component output will not be available with the initial shipment. It will be available in 2002. You will be able to purchase an upgrade package from ATI with an adapter to connect your graphics card to your HDTV through YPbPr.
Great, so that will be, what, 31st December 2002?
It's amazing how companies get away with these kind of false promises. Several emails asking for a more specific timeframe went unanswered (after requiring me to go through a rediculous amount of trouble finding a way to actually get a proper email address).
An other important thing to mention that I keep running into: NEVER trust information on a web-page. The company will modify it without any record of the previous version (only a few weeks and it's out of Google cache as well), leaving you with no prove whatsoever.
if only God had made the moon tethered by two nice fat copper wires...
Uhm, this is 'Clearly' a hoax. Sorry for the propaganda. ;)
But I'm not contributing anything to the site, just clarifying a point of the blackout.
;)
:(
/. is at stake here! How could you!
Ah, but you shouldn't even be reading comments, that's the first rule. Naughty you.
*sigh* I really don't have any self control
But the future of