I'm assuming that most Iraqis don't have a computer, and as such there is not a very large Windows marketshare.
Do you think the lower prices of linux will encourage widespread computer usage in Iraq? Do you think maybe people will use linux more than windows, since it's cheaper and can (maybe) get a foothold in the market faster?
Well, since Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy either, that makes sense, don't you think? The book(singular) was broken up artificially in order to sell, not because it was written that way.
Nope. It was originally written by Tolkien as 6 books, which were joined up into 3 in order to sell. The books were The Ring Sets Out, The Ring Goes South, The Treason at Isengard, The Ring Goes East, The War of the Ring, and The End of the Third Age
The way I understand it, Havoc Pennington said that several X.org and XFree86 developers were working together. This was misinterpreted by journalists as the projects working together.
At the moment all IPC in GNOME generally goes through bonobo. For simple IPC that's fairly wasteful. D-BUS is a lighter solution for these cases.
OTOH, I think the only thing you need to do cross-component embedding is a way of telling the program which X plug to use. And that's _all_ that goes through bonobo. It could be done very simply through D-BUS too.
Some bacteria do have propeller-like rotating spikes.
In fact, the "wheel" is extremely common on the molecular level. A derivation of the rotating protein that is used to drive bacterial flagella (presumably what you mean by rotating spikes?) is used in mitochondria, only this time it generates ATP as it rotates.
It also rotates several thousand times faster than the fastest man-made motor (and that one needs a vacuum) - presumably because it's so small!
Precisely. The infrastructure now exists in KDE, which is a tremendous step to getting it "accessibility ready", but if you look at screenshots like this screeshot you'll find that the applications aren't giving very much accessibility information to ATK yet:)
Still, lets not underplay this announcement. Linux is on the way to becoming "The desktop that cares" and usable by people who can't use non-accessibility-ready desktops.
If you actually use Window's accessibility features, you will find them sadly lacking. Actually trying to navigate the desktop just using ATs is very difficult, lots of apps take no notice of the system settings, etc.
I am not an accessibility expert, but there have been some studies to suggest ATK is ahead of Windows here.
It's not possible. Look at gtk, try to do the port, then come to that conclusion:)
GTK wants to be able to draw things to the screen. Different GDK backends can draw to different "screens" - X, pixbuf, framebuffer, even curses/terminal (!!!) but you can't tell something to "draw a line in a Qt style." Only to "Draw a button in a Qt style."
This is actually how themes work, so all you need is a theme engine that will mirror the Qt look. Aaaaaaah, that must be easier:) Alternatively you could make a theme for Qt and Gtk, but then people would flame you for crippling one or the other.
fwiw, gnome doesn't have menu shadows because it doesn't work in the general case. KDE just grabs a single snapshot of the desktop and uses a darkened version of that as the shadow; if a window updates behind the shadow, it won't show properly.
When shadows and transparency are supported by the X server, you will probably see the features appearing in Gtk.
That's not actually true. What actually happened is that Peter Jackson always intended the 3-hour versions to be the ones shown in the cinemas. He also intended the extended editions to be on DVDs, for die-hard fans.
If (many will argue When would be the right term) they lose the lawsuits, and it is found that Linux contains no code that is part of their IP. Will they automatically grant complete refunds (none of this $99 processing fee cra) to those who purchased a pointless license from them.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/200 2-June/msg00041.html is the historically significant mail for GNOME in the post-2.0 era.
We're sticking to 6-month releases (in fact, 2.2 hit the streets after 5 months since the first bit of time was bugfixing 2.0). The advantages to having time-based releases are if the features aren't ready, they wait while the bugs from the finished stuff are removed and the new features released. This is instead of adding more features, making the software (presumably) buggier and buggier, which would make the release QA much harder and more painful.
6 month releases means that a feature that misses a given release will not have long to wait before it can be in the main development branch again.
So far, it's working.
Andrew Sobala, GNOME QA dude, variable hacker, and release team member
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Ximian is put together by the Ximian company, not by GNOME, so comments that this is "GNOME's own distribution" are incorrect. GNOME's own distribution is what you get when you compile tarballs from gnome.org, and pretty close to what hits debian.
Ximian Desktop 2.0 is different to GNOME 2.2: most of the differences are public knowledge, but the review mentioned in the article is a bit crap.
-> It's integrated. Instead of having half a dozen apps to do the same job lying around, one is distributed in Ximian to be the obvious way of performing that task. Oo.o for word processing, Galeon 1.3 for web browsing, Realplayer for playing Realplayer-type things and so on.
-> It includes non-GNOME software. KDE tends to include an app for every purpose in the main KDE distribution as far as I understand; GNOME doesn't include the gimp, office applications and so on in the main distribution. Ximian does, and some of the applications such as OO.o are not GNOME applications.
-> The non-GNOME applications are integrated. There is antialised text in OO.o; it follows the main GNOME theme although it's not GTK 2; and so on.
-> Red Hat and Ximian both extend GNOME and give their users the extensions before they get upstream; there will be little goodies in Ximian GNOME that aren't in mainstream GNOME (but may be in GNOME 2.2)
-> Printers are configurable and editable.
-> The control center is fixed. Instead of having thousands of entries in a menu, it looks OS X-ey.
-> There is a "My Computer" on the desktop and various things in the menus to make the whole thing intuitive to use if you wheel along Grandma Mathilda and sit her in front of the computer.
That's all public knowledge. The best stuff is probably OO.o integration and printer configuration. Anything else will have to wait for next week when it's downloadable:-)
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The real coup for Ximian will be getting GTK2 into OO.o - if they can do this, then the last minor inconsistencies will only be in applications like mplayer, realplay and xmms, and we've all expected media players to look different for years.
I'm certain OO.o is not going to be GTK-2-ised by Ximian - it's a huge amount of work, for little benefit. They have modified it so that it emulates the current GTK2 theme in Ximian Desktop 2; that's got to be good enough.
"Schuster wouldn't comment on whether or not he has sent out any copyright infringement notices, and he said that some Internet patents have been frivolous -- but not his" says the article.
A patent-violating site is violating the patent, not copyright.
Even more interestingly, who do you sue if a group of programmers have written a program but aren't represented by an entity (such as the GNOME foundation, Apache foundation, etc.) Sue every individual developer? What about 20-line patches?
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I'm assuming that most Iraqis don't have a computer, and as such there is not a very large Windows marketshare.
Do you think the lower prices of linux will encourage widespread computer usage in Iraq? Do you think maybe people will use linux more than windows, since it's cheaper and can (maybe) get a foothold in the market faster?
Nope. It was originally written by Tolkien as 6 books, which were joined up into 3 in order to sell. The books were The Ring Sets Out, The Ring Goes South, The Treason at Isengard, The Ring Goes East, The War of the Ring, and The End of the Third Age
The way I understand it, Havoc Pennington said that several X.org and XFree86 developers were working together. This was misinterpreted by journalists as the projects working together.
Hmmm.
Well.
At the moment all IPC in GNOME generally goes through bonobo. For simple IPC that's fairly wasteful. D-BUS is a lighter solution for these cases.
OTOH, I think the only thing you need to do cross-component embedding is a way of telling the program which X plug to use. And that's _all_ that goes through bonobo. It could be done very simply through D-BUS too.
Is it only me who thinks that calling the law CAN-SPAM seems fairly inappropriate? I'd have more faith in one called CANT-SPAM. La di da,
In fact, the "wheel" is extremely common on the molecular level. A derivation of the rotating protein that is used to drive bacterial flagella (presumably what you mean by rotating spikes?) is used in mitochondria, only this time it generates ATP as it rotates.
It also rotates several thousand times faster than the fastest man-made motor (and that one needs a vacuum) - presumably because it's so small!
Lies, damn lies, and then there's statistics.
Precisely. The infrastructure now exists in KDE, which is a tremendous step to getting it "accessibility ready", but if you look at screenshots like this screeshot you'll find that the applications aren't giving very much accessibility information to ATK yet :)
Still, lets not underplay this announcement. Linux is on the way to becoming "The desktop that cares" and usable by people who can't use non-accessibility-ready desktops.
If you actually use Window's accessibility features, you will find them sadly lacking. Actually trying to navigate the desktop just using ATs is very difficult, lots of apps take no notice of the system settings, etc.
I am not an accessibility expert, but there have been some studies to suggest ATK is ahead of Windows here.
It's not possible. Look at gtk, try to do the port, then come to that conclusion :)
GTK wants to be able to draw things to the screen. Different GDK backends can draw to different "screens" - X, pixbuf, framebuffer, even curses/terminal (!!!) but you can't tell something to "draw a line in a Qt style." Only to "Draw a button in a Qt style."
This is actually how themes work, so all you need is a theme engine that will mirror the Qt look. Aaaaaaah, that must be easier :) Alternatively you could make a theme for Qt and Gtk, but then people would flame you for crippling one or the other.
When shadows and transparency are supported by the X server, you will probably see the features appearing in Gtk.
fwiw, the GNOME office website is at http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/.
That's not actually true. What actually happened is that Peter Jackson always intended the 3-hour versions to be the ones shown in the cinemas. He also intended the extended editions to be on DVDs, for die-hard fans.
Please don't spread FUD.
Umm, you may not realize this, but Xouvert *is* Keith Packard's fork.
No it's not.
If (many will argue When would be the right term) they lose the lawsuits, and it is found that Linux contains no code that is part of their IP. Will they automatically grant complete refunds (none of this $99 processing fee cra) to those who purchased a pointless license from them.
No.
If not, why?
Because they will be bankrupt.
Dude, I'm on the release team. When I posted this, it wasn't out. Over 12 hours later, it is now. Welcome to the new GNOME.
You know, this logo is the really old one. Any chance of slashdot changing it?
When is _is_ out, you'll have all sorts of release notes and screenshots to look at. Slashdot is announcing non-existant releases again :)
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/200 2-June/msg00041.html is the historically significant mail for GNOME in the post-2.0 era.
We're sticking to 6-month releases (in fact, 2.2 hit the streets after 5 months since the first bit of time was bugfixing 2.0). The advantages to having time-based releases are if the features aren't ready, they wait while the bugs from the finished stuff are removed and the new features released. This is instead of adding more features, making the software (presumably) buggier and buggier, which would make the release QA much harder and more painful.
6 month releases means that a feature that misses a given release will not have long to wait before it can be in the main development branch again.
So far, it's working.
Andrew Sobala, GNOME QA dude, variable hacker, and release team member
Here's one mirror I know of: http://www.idi.ntnu.no/~lindkvis/xd2/screenshots/
Ximian is put together by the Ximian company, not by GNOME, so comments that this is "GNOME's own distribution" are incorrect. GNOME's own distribution is what you get when you compile tarballs from gnome.org, and pretty close to what hits debian.
:-)
Ximian Desktop 2.0 is different to GNOME 2.2: most of the differences are public knowledge, but the review mentioned in the article is a bit crap.
-> It's integrated. Instead of having half a dozen apps to do the same job lying around, one is distributed in Ximian to be the obvious way of performing that task. Oo.o for word processing, Galeon 1.3 for web browsing, Realplayer for playing Realplayer-type things and so on.
-> It includes non-GNOME software. KDE tends to include an app for every purpose in the main KDE distribution as far as I understand; GNOME doesn't include the gimp, office applications and so on in the main distribution. Ximian does, and some of the applications such as OO.o are not GNOME applications.
-> The non-GNOME applications are integrated. There is antialised text in OO.o; it follows the main GNOME theme although it's not GTK 2; and so on.
-> Red Hat and Ximian both extend GNOME and give their users the extensions before they get upstream; there will be little goodies in Ximian GNOME that aren't in mainstream GNOME (but may be in GNOME 2.2)
-> Printers are configurable and editable.
-> The control center is fixed. Instead of having thousands of entries in a menu, it looks OS X-ey.
-> There is a "My Computer" on the desktop and various things in the menus to make the whole thing intuitive to use if you wheel along Grandma Mathilda and sit her in front of the computer.
That's all public knowledge. The best stuff is probably OO.o integration and printer configuration. Anything else will have to wait for next week when it's downloadable
I'm certain OO.o is not going to be GTK-2-ised by Ximian - it's a huge amount of work, for little benefit. They have modified it so that it emulates the current GTK2 theme in Ximian Desktop 2; that's got to be good enough.
Yeah. Probably not going to be nitrogen, thinking about it, given its tremendous oxidating powers :-)
A patent-violating site is violating the patent, not copyright.
Even more interestingly, who do you sue if a group of programmers have written a program but aren't represented by an entity (such as the GNOME foundation, Apache foundation, etc.) Sue every individual developer? What about 20-line patches?
And so on.