Problem with this discussion is that you dont only get a higher payroll with higher education.
I mean, you spend nine years reading/basic maths. thats not because it takes nine years to learn it. It's because you have to LEARN how to LEARN.
That's also a very important thing in learning, by taking a break and learning something new you also learn alot about yourself.
I often see ignorance around me ( hey! I've been there myself ).
For 6 months ago I thougt I could code Perl, everybody else also thought soo, they asked me questions all day long, I was coding perl for most of my time. I read my o'reilly books, I looked for information on internet, i asked gurus and my knowledge increased.
Until one day, when I realised I did not know much perl at all. I had reached the level where you understand the depth of the topic. before that point I did not even know how MUCH there is about Perl. After learning that I realised that my knowledge about Perl might be around 10% of the whole subject.
This ignorance is only bad, because people THINK they know something very well just because they doesn't know SHIT about it. I have found that people that really knows alot on a topic often are humble about their knowledge because they understand the "whole" about it. They are more intresting in learning new things than bragging about their own knowledge.
MHh.. i was thinking about possible ways to scrable all other programs except mircosofts mediaplayer from reading data of the cdrom.. but as you say, this probably wouldnt be a very good idea in the united states of imaginable freedome..
besides, how many hours would it take to be cracked?:)
breaking need libraries and crashing? this reminds me of installing games in linux more than in windows.
opengl drivers are very often broken in linux causing boxes to go down. no shame on mesa, but on the hardwaremanufacturers, ati especially for not supporting linux enough.
and i see myself as pretty advanced in the field since ive tried many opengl-supported cards and used to program a little bit of opengl for linux. when a newbie tries to install his new quake/tribes/unreal-game, and the screen goes black and never comes back.. trust me, next time he'll buy that new hot game for windows instead.
and for breaking libraries, what libraries could be broken in windows? you must be running a strange version.
its mostly libraries in linux that gets broken, glibc X.X -fscked- my comp more than once.
>Hmmm. Why do you assume that the vast in porn couldn't get abused, when you already acknowledge that children all over the world are abused in sweat-shops just to keep us with cheap shoes? Why is the former not possible when the latter is happening?
Thats diffrent, you (as a swede) should know that pornography isnt only produced in third world countrys but also countrys like Sweden.
Why would Americans/Europeans be part of pornography if they didn't want it? Dont give me that bullshit about fairness and social rights.
Either they are narcomans and do it for the drugs
or they want to be part of it because of the money.
I can see that you are an student. Have you ever pondered upon what you do as an employee?
I would suggest most of them do it for the money -just like everyone else thats selling their time to their employeer.
You are generalizing, you cant just say that just because someone is younger they are not as intelligent as you.
I work as a developer at a web-firm and im highly respected for my talents in coding, but when it comes to marketing ideas, user interfaces my opinons even doesnt count. This is something ive accepted in waiting for more experience as i myself doesnt reconsider myself to be very experienced in anything but - coding - .
Assuming that its just teenagers / immature people that says that you should patch a certain software is stupid because by letting everyone know there is always a change that a big chunk of users will turn a feature off and that indirectly results in that no-one writes virii like that again.
who cares wheter its free? what linux needs is quality applications.
i dont care if my programs cost a few bucks when i know i get quality instead of buggy gtk-applications written by 14year olds.
just because we're opensource and free and everything that doesnt mean that EVERY application that costs money on linux is bad. im not personally gonna buy the desktop edition for $1k, but i sure gonna support borland by buying their $99-version when it becomes available.
Every opinion is worth listening too, but - what if everyone thought like that?
Where would our civilsation be? Back at stoneage? Why invent the wheel? We dont need to travel - everything thats really needed is close enough to walk to.
Going to the moon, to pluto is not only a scientific goal, but a extension of our limits as a civilsation. We dont NEED to invent anything, we could drop internet right now and everyone could be fine, we could stop using cars and everything probably should be just fine.
Its not a waste of money in my opinion, and the first one to get money out of space travel / mining will be the next generations richest country.
I dont think wine is the way we need to go to make Linux the standard desktop anyway. Probably projects like Kylix are much nicer for development than hoping to have success with wine.
Ok,okey, Pascal isnt the most cool language of earth, but its atleast a easy way for crossdeveloping good utilities for desktops.
ofcourse you can, question is if you'll manage to do the other thing.
would be neat to have a approx. figure on how much p0rn there is out there. would be cool to have some numbers on how long it would actually get your hand of ALL porn existing on the internet..
Thats MUCH more useful / cool than to have +100gb mp3:)
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Problem with this discussion is that you dont only get a higher payroll with higher education.
I mean, you spend nine years reading/basic maths. thats not because it takes nine years to learn it. It's because you have to LEARN how to LEARN.
That's also a very important thing in learning, by taking a break and learning something new you also learn alot about yourself.
I often see ignorance around me ( hey! I've been there myself ).
For 6 months ago I thougt I could code Perl, everybody else also thought soo, they asked me questions all day long, I was coding perl for most of my time. I read my o'reilly books, I looked for information on internet, i asked gurus and my knowledge increased.
Until one day, when I realised I did not know much perl at all. I had reached the level where you understand the depth of the topic. before that point I did not even know how MUCH there is about Perl. After learning that I realised that my knowledge about Perl might be around 10% of the whole subject.
This ignorance is only bad, because people THINK they know something very well just because they doesn't know SHIT about it. I have found that people that really knows alot on a topic often are humble about their knowledge because they understand the "whole" about it. They are more intresting in learning new things than bragging about their own knowledge.
thats why you dont watch the dubbed/subbed versions.
please dont forget that the united stats of america is the nation of freedom.
ofcourse all us citizens should be allowed to do whatever they want.
hackers treating national security should be prosecuted though..
this is all very true, screw the ppl who blame producers of porn, video games and music for this.
screw the even more stupid idiots that think the fault is those who made the trenchcoat-"mafias" life to hell.
the fault is only the society and the lifestyle.
no, this is not a troll, its my personal view.
thats why you never reinstall dx from the games ( they ask you, remember )..
just sticking to the latest DX has always worked fine for me.
dont underestimate the power of large groups of lusers...
MHh.. i was thinking about possible ways to scrable all other programs except mircosofts mediaplayer from reading data of the cdrom.. but as you say, this probably wouldnt be a very good idea in the united states of imaginable freedome..
:)
besides, how many hours would it take to be cracked?
breaking need libraries and crashing? this reminds me of installing games in linux more than in windows.
opengl drivers are very often broken in linux causing boxes to go down. no shame on mesa, but on the hardwaremanufacturers, ati especially for not supporting linux enough.
and i see myself as pretty advanced in the field since ive tried many opengl-supported cards and used to program a little bit of opengl for linux. when a newbie tries to install his new quake/tribes/unreal-game, and the screen goes black and never comes back.. trust me, next time he'll buy that new hot game for windows instead.
and for breaking libraries, what libraries could be broken in windows? you must be running a strange version.
its mostly libraries in linux that gets broken, glibc X.X -fscked- my comp more than once.
>Hmmm. Why do you assume that the vast in porn couldn't get abused, when you already acknowledge that children all over the world are abused in sweat-shops just to keep us with cheap shoes? Why is the former not possible when the latter is happening?
:))
Thats diffrent, you (as a swede) should know that pornography isnt only produced in third world countrys but also countrys like Sweden.
Why would Americans/Europeans be part of pornography if they didn't want it? Dont give me that bullshit about fairness and social rights.
Either they are narcomans and do it for the drugs
or they want to be part of it because of the money.
I can see that you are an student. Have you ever pondered upon what you do as an employee?
I would suggest most of them do it for the money -just like everyone else thats selling their time to their employeer.
Alla dina bas är tillhör oss.
why is this at 0?
mod up please.
wtf are you posting this here?
its so darn offtopic, take this somewhere else.
borland pascal inline asm is the only true form of asm-coding. dont insult the last generation demo-coders.
last time i checked marathon sucked ass, and diablo 2 / broodwar is still much more fun.
you'll never get blizzard to port anyway because they are waaay to ignorant.
You dont want to r3w7 nasa from home stupid!
Besides, where are you going to store your 31337 warez ?!?
yes , but what if you drive drunk into an airport and crash a airplane? or get some really expensive sickness?
i dont know what happens in the u.s. in this case, but if you couldnt pay in sweden you would be a burden to the taxpayers clearly.
You are generalizing, you cant just say that just because someone is younger they are not as intelligent as you.
I work as a developer at a web-firm and im highly respected for my talents in coding, but when it comes to marketing ideas, user interfaces my opinons even doesnt count. This is something ive accepted in waiting for more experience as i myself doesnt reconsider myself to be very experienced in anything but - coding - .
Assuming that its just teenagers / immature people that says that you should patch a certain software is stupid because by letting everyone know there is always a change that a big chunk of users will turn a feature off and that indirectly results in that no-one writes virii like that again.
Even better:
$Box.
Dont forget that terran is the evil, we must togheter as zerg & protoss fight the evil.
money talks louder than most environment issues anyway.. ask yourself, if you could make a few $M, would you give a f*** about some silly fish?
No?
support? whats that? you mean you actually expect to get support for a $99-product?
we've got irc, #delphi, or soon #kylix.
usenet, (dont know)
and numberless of community websites with examples, source and help for the needing.
who cares wheter its free? what linux needs is quality applications.
i dont care if my programs cost a few bucks when i know i get quality instead of buggy gtk-applications written by 14year olds.
just because we're opensource and free and everything that doesnt mean that EVERY application that costs money on linux is bad. im not personally gonna buy the desktop edition for $1k, but i sure gonna support borland by buying their $99-version when it becomes available.
why shouldnt cookies be used? cookies are not neccessary evil..
Every opinion is worth listening too, but - what if everyone thought like that?
Where would our civilsation be? Back at stoneage? Why invent the wheel? We dont need to travel - everything thats really needed is close enough to walk to.
Going to the moon, to pluto is not only a scientific goal, but a extension of our limits as a civilsation. We dont NEED to invent anything, we could drop internet right now and everyone could be fine, we could stop using cars and everything probably should be just fine.
Its not a waste of money in my opinion, and the first one to get money out of space travel / mining will be the next generations richest country.
I dont think wine is the way we need to go to make Linux the standard desktop anyway. Probably projects like Kylix are much nicer for development than hoping to have success with wine.
Ok,okey, Pascal isnt the most cool language of earth, but its atleast a easy way for crossdeveloping good utilities for desktops.
ofcourse you can, question is if you'll manage to do the other thing.
:)
would be neat to have a approx. figure on how much p0rn there is out there. would be cool to have some numbers on how long it would actually get your hand of ALL porn existing on the internet..
Thats MUCH more useful / cool than to have +100gb mp3