You won't fill up the open relay's hard drive, if the MTA is worth anything. The queue won't get larger for every reject. You will just keep the email destined for you in its queue until timeout (if it was deferral) but it is a 550 REJECT which means "give it up, I'll never accept this mail" which any MTA like Sendmail or Postfix can do anyway with a RBL rule.
Horses for courses. RBL checking costs a DNS lookup and little more - so why have a separate daemon do it?
SpamAssassin has to parse the whole message body, so you've already accepted it. I didn't mean to make it look like it was super low overhead with SpamAssassin, I meant that it's low overhead without it, and that with SpamAssassin you can do a lot more.
I oughtta Preview before Send more often. I type too fast and it gets confused
This is just a lightweight SMTP server which takes over anyone who is SPEWS listed and rejects them. A decent server like Postfix + amavisd & SpamAssassin will already do this with little overhead.
More reinvention of the wheel, I fear.
Re:Free FrontPage, that'll cure the world's ills.
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FrontPage is not lowcost in my book, apart from the fact that most people already have Office
This is all offtopic anyway. Why was the parent modded up?
Reminds me of my Dad programming some old mainframe in COBOL (wasting a day of time) just so the logout screen would blink and beep the terminal beeper to a rhythm popular at football (soccer) matches. He had to get the timing just right using lowlevel interrupts and differing timers on 3 different workstation types. Lol.
If you're happy with it and causing nobody else harm, then that is fine. If you have income, can hold your job, and want for nothing more, then fine. If you pull yourself away to work properly and don't skive at your job to do it, great. But if not, and your productivity is suffering, you will be sacked sooner or later. Plenty of us out here work fucking hard for our money, and cannot take a life of leisure and skiving to the extremes you suggest you have.
Heck I'd love to just play music all day, but I probably won't ever get paid for that.
I'm so happy I didn't study at the Uni of Warwick in the UK
What made you pick that one out? I went there, had 24/7 access to labs, but I managed to keep away very easily. But then I left by 97, they still had 33MHz beasts back then...
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Radical, but bloated, with a single data structure for all the information accessed (yeah well that's a filesystem I suppose but each individual file is a unique entity) and one single company with a closed protocol set and format to really mean marriage to Microsoft in the future will be for better or worse, or the divorce will cost you at least 50% of your capital.
Corporate computing is not some ideal world... it's all about money, money, and more money. Computers exist in the first place to save time (and therefore money).
All that freakin' text just to let us know that ONE word in that paragraph needs changing? You could have posted s/space/desert, quoted the paragraph once and emboldened the word space, or anything else you like, rather than wasting all that space.
Harrrumph.
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Of course. I once had a client, after a project was finished and in management validation for going public, suddenly go to www.commentcamarche.com or equivalent (www.howstuffworks.com is the anglophone site of similar nature) and pick up something about quality control and project management and suddenly start changing everything, including our reports, into terminology and methods he'd read the night before. A nightmare, since everything had *already* been managed reasonably and was working to boot!
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Great idea, looks good... but in most video walls you have to allow for the space between each monitor when you crop, or reduce the physical space between each. Here, there's way too much space between each screen (both vertically and horizontally) and the images look strange because the cropping doesn't allow for it.
Yeah, but the difference is that you can break DVD copy protection:) whereas you cannot make a store sell you games for less (you could get them for free by robbery, but that's a heavier crime than just accidentally updating your firmware to a newer version because you thought it was the "official" update, or accidentally typing random things onto your remote until WOW! the region 1 disk you bought in the US now plays on your European player:)
First of all, thankyou for having taken the time to write such a long comment. It is indeed people like you who really putting me down (and picking me up to respond) when I make a post that is a bit off the regular level of intellect necessary. I tend to write off-the-hip, and yes, maybe I am a wannabe. The people who are happy to put me down over stereotypes and by writing one line like the other reply to this post really annoy me, whereas constructive and to the point criticism is really what I would like to incite, if I can't incite laughter and "Funny" mod points. The strange thing is, a simple, easy joke can get +5 Funny where something that tries and fails to go one level deeper gets derided.
Gosh, I really hope you were intending this to be a funny post, because otherwise you're just being an ass and not really looking at the article in its true context:
I was hoping it would be funny, I can't believe at this moment that it is modded as +4 insightful. I think that is purely due to the phenomenon that I managed to post reasonably quickly. Indeed, if you are karma whoring you do need to get in quick - but it's not just about karma points. It's about being seen. If you take too long to post something and really think about it, you are less likely to get read than if you send a halfbaked joke idea which you haven't properly developed. That's what Slashdot is really about - it mirrors real life. You have to shout louder and earlier than everyone else to be noticed, but the true geniuses are the ones who quietly work in a corner and have less need for recognition. Their time will come.
He's talking about a site-creator's experience with users, so most of your translations don't make sense.
Fair point. You got me there. I did shift the perspective towards site users, rather than the creators. Appealing, perhaps, to those people who use mod points up immediately on new articles rather than properly searching posts for the true insights. That's why your comment, which deserves points, didn't get modded up yet, whereas my less worthy post did. Perhaps a delay in mod points for the first few posts might help even that out - until a threshold of a number of posts is reached, do not apply mod points. Sure, the disadvantage is that many mod points would be "wasted" on modding up articles that already have 5 points, but it would give more chance for the cream to rise to the top from those people who might have a bit more time to type something more intelligent. Indeed if you sort by the number of points, the DB could remember those who got modded up much more and put them up at the top, overriding the chronological fallback for posts with equal points. That would probably change my attitude to posting for the better.
Maybe the surprise will be that your site becomes the first place people go to in the morning, and becomes so successful just by word of mouth that one morning when their is a big news event (i.e., 9/11), your server becomes totally overloaded. Maybe the surprise will be that two members of your online community fall in love, get married, and invite the whole community to their wedding party.
You're dead right here. Somehow the sum of the parts becomes bigger than the whole. Lots of people I meet in IT see me surfing slashdot and have a "wow... that's what I do each lunctime, too" kneejerk reaction. I'm not quite so sure how people then make a link to really feeling like the readers are part of a community where they then feel like inviting them to their wedding, at least for Slashdot.
I think your mistake here was assuming that because two people have different interests, one is a dork with serious brain damage, and the other is a supergod hacker who thinks programming in Assembly is taking the easy way out.
I think you're using hyperbole to prove your point here. I didn't really suggest that. What I'm trying (badly) to get at is that even the leaders in a particular field can suddenly be surprised by peer review - a guy in India with a minimal "classic" education has really done his research, and his post back to you suddenly makes you feel very small. This is a wonderful effect of Slashdot.
This is where you get closest. First Posts are definitely one of the "strange characteristics" of Slashdot.
At least you're not going to hammer everything I said then:)
I'd say examples of "strange characteristics" on Slashdot include the contents of people's sig files, the proliferation of "Funny" comments, and an obsession with putting random links everywhere [aol.com]. Also, let's not forget Karma Whoring..
As I have already touched upon before, Karma Whoring is much more complex than just hitting the 50 point barrier. This is why I think Karma: Excellent is not improving things in this department. The point is that you have to be fast to get seen, and if you come in too late but have something very valid to say, and can put it properly too, then you are not going to get seen. I have already admitted that I am a wannabe, I think we all are. We need to be seen and read, because we feel that we have something valid and important to say (at least sometimes) but can fall back to a "points rush" on a slow afternoon when there's a nagging problem to fix on a server someplace but the motivation just isn't there yet.
For the last point, "cover my ass" phrases are those that I get most bad reactions from. Hence putting it in my sig. It takes time to craft language into the true nature of your thoughts, indeed even a well written piece doesn't get beyond scratching the surface of what you're really thinking. And the same goes for some things which are so clearly ironic for me (I really cannot imagine anyone being so dumb as to truly believe some of the things I type) that I am shocked by people's replies letting me know how dumb I must be.
All in all, cheers for replying. I appreciate that more than all the mod points I have ever got.
I'm not a newbie. Maybe I am a wannabe, I think a lot of us are. I'm just not as subtle as I ought to be sometimes. I could, on this particular point, care less about whether it is pr0n or prOn, I think it's more indicative of your need to show me up as a loser than anything else. Maybe I am a loser, but it takes one to know one.
Community members will continually surprise you, especially if you've never really analyzed an online community before.
Translation: If you're a newbie, you will get flamed
The issues and themes you find important may never really resonate with your users. They'll latch onto and chase down ideas you've never found important or even knew existed.
Trans: you may still be a loser even if you run a successful weblog, or more mildly, there is always someone who knows more than you about how some random chip inside some old hardware REALLY works.
They'll also tend to develop some strange characteristics.
Trans: like first post, links to prOn, and the like...
Not everyone will exhibit every behavior, but these are general trends in every community I've observed.
Trans: there are some people who put a lot of thought into what they say. Thanks be to God/Allah/Buddha/Krishna/The TCP/IP stack/etc...
I'm sorry that from my story you read that I cannot drive; I knew that area of London well, lived there and drove there for a year, and can get from Brixton to Wood Green without a map no problems. However, this was a special case where the road I regularly took was closed and I was forced on a detour around a particularly complex one-way system, because the road I wanted was closed for about a mile. Now, I did find my way and without a map but I was technically "lost". That doesn't mean I couldn't get my bearings.
However your agressive attitude somewhat mirrors exactly the problem I had with the Policeman's attitude: start swearing and shouting, instead of just being pleasantly scolding about it. I could not see (because of a bus) that the road ahead was blocked, and it was late, so logically the fact that the left lane was free did not suggest to me that I shouldn't go there.
Come here to Morocco and let's watch you drive. Highest death toll per capita in the WORLD and I'm still alive after 4 years. Can't be that bewildered mate.
Ummm... the problem is that drugs are illegal to everyone, not just those under the age of "majority". There are lots of problems with drug laws, and let us not forget that while you all whine about freedom of speech and gun laws and so on in America, YOUR country pushed drug laws on Europe. You could buy cocaine over the counter in France for a significant part of the 20th century until the USA got their way.
And of course, from The History of Cannabis
The USA unsuccessfully proposed that cannabis be discussed at the Hague Conference on opiates in 1912. Their enthusiasm for drug control was a mix of moralism and self-interest, both tending to boost America's developing international influence. Most medical drugs were imported, so controlling them made little difference to US domestic policy, but gave the US a moral and economic lever against their producers, mostly Britain and Germany.
Of course, there are harder drugs. But making them illegal doesn't make the problem go away, and it has been argued that it makes the problem worse. Methadone is often used to wean heroin addicts, a substance which is proven to be more addictive than heroin itself. Oh well.
I hear you, man. I was once lost in London coming up to the Euston Road. Well, I wasn't lost at all when the problem happened... there was a queue of traffic on the right lane, but I wanted to go straight and quite correctly put myself in the left lane. When I get to the end of the lane I see it's blocked that side, and a cop stops me as I try to just get back (politely I might add) into position. He waves me through, I think cool... I try to go straight but then I see (it's night) the POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS so I stop and apologise, and put my RH indicator on to turn up a road I don't know and proceed to get lost.
But what I object to is that the Policeman says to me "Use you f***king eyes you w**ker" as his first words to me. That is quite unacceptable as far as I am concerned.
But anyways, it's not like the police were going to win against the BBC's high-priced lawyers -- and now that this lawsuit's over, the police (read: taxpayers) also have to pay the BBC's mega legal fees, too, even if the rest of it is just 850 pounds.
The BBC is public funded too. Brits pay a "television licence fee" to the tune of $150US per year, maybe even more now. So they don't necessarily have pots of cash either. Indeed, it is thanks to merchandising and program sales to foreign markets that the licence fee is so low. It seems ridiculous that the Police and another quasi-state owned institution should be battling legal battles. Cases like these just make lawyers rich from money in the public coffers, but there's nothing new about that.
P.S. If you were really drunk when you peed in a Police Box, you were probably over 18. So you were born in 1940-1950? They haven't been in public for a long long time... there were still red phone boxes until about 10 years ago though.
If enough people believe it, then it happened. If they don't, it didn't. So we just need to know how many people believe it - cue a Slashdot Poll?
There is no spoon.
You won't fill up the open relay's hard drive, if the MTA is worth anything. The queue won't get larger for every reject. You will just keep the email destined for you in its queue until timeout (if it was deferral) but it is a 550 REJECT which means "give it up, I'll never accept this mail" which any MTA like Sendmail or Postfix can do anyway with a RBL rule.
SpamAssassin has to parse the whole message body, so you've already accepted it. I didn't mean to make it look like it was super low overhead with SpamAssassin, I meant that it's low overhead without it, and that with SpamAssassin you can do a lot more.
I oughtta Preview before Send more often. I type too fast and it gets confused
This is just a lightweight SMTP server which takes over anyone who is SPEWS listed and rejects them. A decent server like Postfix + amavisd & SpamAssassin will already do this with little overhead.
More reinvention of the wheel, I fear.
This is all offtopic anyway. Why was the parent modded up?
The page links to several solutions; they appear not to all contain the bugs in the link you gave.
Reminds me of my Dad programming some old mainframe in COBOL (wasting a day of time) just so the logout screen would blink and beep the terminal beeper to a rhythm popular at football (soccer) matches. He had to get the timing just right using lowlevel interrupts and differing timers on 3 different workstation types. Lol.
If you're happy with it and causing nobody else harm, then that is fine. If you have income, can hold your job, and want for nothing more, then fine. If you pull yourself away to work properly and don't skive at your job to do it, great. But if not, and your productivity is suffering, you will be sacked sooner or later. Plenty of us out here work fucking hard for our money, and cannot take a life of leisure and skiving to the extremes you suggest you have.
Heck I'd love to just play music all day, but I probably won't ever get paid for that.
What made you pick that one out? I went there, had 24/7 access to labs, but I managed to keep away very easily. But then I left by 97, they still had 33MHz beasts back then...
Corporate computing is not some ideal world... it's all about money, money, and more money. Computers exist in the first place to save time (and therefore money).
Harrrumph.
Of course. I once had a client, after a project was finished and in management validation for going public, suddenly go to www.commentcamarche.com or equivalent (www.howstuffworks.com is the anglophone site of similar nature) and pick up something about quality control and project management and suddenly start changing everything, including our reports, into terminology and methods he'd read the night before. A nightmare, since everything had *already* been managed reasonably and was working to boot!
Great idea, looks good... but in most video walls you have to allow for the space between each monitor when you crop, or reduce the physical space between each. Here, there's way too much space between each screen (both vertically and horizontally) and the images look strange because the cropping doesn't allow for it.
Yeah, but the difference is that you can break DVD copy protection :) whereas you cannot make a store sell you games for less (you could get them for free by robbery, but that's a heavier crime than just accidentally updating your firmware to a newer version because you thought it was the "official" update, or accidentally typing random things onto your remote until WOW! the region 1 disk you bought in the US now plays on your European player :)
No way I could use it to do a large presentation, whereas I can use a PII 350MHz with 64M Ram quite happily with PowerPoint.
Am I missing something?
Read this:-
Unbounding the Future: the Nanotechnology Revolution
Eric Drexler and Chris Peterson, with Gayle Pergamit William Morrow and Company, Inc.
I don't know where I downloaded it from, but it's a free ebook (.DOC format) download.
I can send you it in PDF if you're interested enough and contact me.
LOL. Used to be that the English copper was a bastion of politeness. Alas, no more.
I am English, I have been expatriated for 4 years... but I lived the first 23 years of my life over there...
Thanks atomico. Nice to see someone appreciated our discussion. ;)
Gosh, I really hope you were intending this to be a funny post, because otherwise you're just being an ass and not really looking at the article in its true context:
I was hoping it would be funny, I can't believe at this moment that it is modded as +4 insightful. I think that is purely due to the phenomenon that I managed to post reasonably quickly. Indeed, if you are karma whoring you do need to get in quick - but it's not just about karma points. It's about being seen. If you take too long to post something and really think about it, you are less likely to get read than if you send a halfbaked joke idea which you haven't properly developed. That's what Slashdot is really about - it mirrors real life. You have to shout louder and earlier than everyone else to be noticed, but the true geniuses are the ones who quietly work in a corner and have less need for recognition. Their time will come.
He's talking about a site-creator's experience with users, so most of your translations don't make sense.
Fair point. You got me there. I did shift the perspective towards site users, rather than the creators. Appealing, perhaps, to those people who use mod points up immediately on new articles rather than properly searching posts for the true insights. That's why your comment, which deserves points, didn't get modded up yet, whereas my less worthy post did. Perhaps a delay in mod points for the first few posts might help even that out - until a threshold of a number of posts is reached, do not apply mod points. Sure, the disadvantage is that many mod points would be "wasted" on modding up articles that already have 5 points, but it would give more chance for the cream to rise to the top from those people who might have a bit more time to type something more intelligent. Indeed if you sort by the number of points, the DB could remember those who got modded up much more and put them up at the top, overriding the chronological fallback for posts with equal points. That would probably change my attitude to posting for the better.
Maybe the surprise will be that your site becomes the first place people go to in the morning, and becomes so successful just by word of mouth that one morning when their is a big news event (i.e., 9/11), your server becomes totally overloaded. Maybe the surprise will be that two members of your online community fall in love, get married, and invite the whole community to their wedding party.
You're dead right here. Somehow the sum of the parts becomes bigger than the whole. Lots of people I meet in IT see me surfing slashdot and have a "wow... that's what I do each lunctime, too" kneejerk reaction. I'm not quite so sure how people then make a link to really feeling like the readers are part of a community where they then feel like inviting them to their wedding, at least for Slashdot.
I think your mistake here was assuming that because two people have different interests, one is a dork with serious brain damage, and the other is a supergod hacker who thinks programming in Assembly is taking the easy way out.
I think you're using hyperbole to prove your point here. I didn't really suggest that. What I'm trying (badly) to get at is that even the leaders in a particular field can suddenly be surprised by peer review - a guy in India with a minimal "classic" education has really done his research, and his post back to you suddenly makes you feel very small. This is a wonderful effect of Slashdot.
This is where you get closest. First Posts are definitely one of the "strange characteristics" of Slashdot.
At least you're not going to hammer everything I said then :)
I'd say examples of "strange characteristics" on Slashdot include the contents of people's sig files, the proliferation of "Funny" comments, and an obsession with putting random links everywhere [aol.com]. Also, let's not forget Karma Whoring..
As I have already touched upon before, Karma Whoring is much more complex than just hitting the 50 point barrier. This is why I think Karma: Excellent is not improving things in this department. The point is that you have to be fast to get seen, and if you come in too late but have something very valid to say, and can put it properly too, then you are not going to get seen. I have already admitted that I am a wannabe, I think we all are. We need to be seen and read, because we feel that we have something valid and important to say (at least sometimes) but can fall back to a "points rush" on a slow afternoon when there's a nagging problem to fix on a server someplace but the motivation just isn't there yet.
For the last point, "cover my ass" phrases are those that I get most bad reactions from. Hence putting it in my sig. It takes time to craft language into the true nature of your thoughts, indeed even a well written piece doesn't get beyond scratching the surface of what you're really thinking. And the same goes for some things which are so clearly ironic for me (I really cannot imagine anyone being so dumb as to truly believe some of the things I type) that I am shocked by people's replies letting me know how dumb I must be.
All in all, cheers for replying. I appreciate that more than all the mod points I have ever got.
I'm not a newbie. Maybe I am a wannabe, I think a lot of us are. I'm just not as subtle as I ought to be sometimes. I could, on this particular point, care less about whether it is pr0n or prOn, I think it's more indicative of your need to show me up as a loser than anything else. Maybe I am a loser, but it takes one to know one.
Translation: If you're a newbie, you will get flamed
The issues and themes you find important may never really resonate with your users. They'll latch onto and chase down ideas you've never found important or even knew existed.
Trans: you may still be a loser even if you run a successful weblog, or more mildly, there is always someone who knows more than you about how some random chip inside some old hardware REALLY works.
They'll also tend to develop some strange characteristics.
Trans: like first post, links to prOn, and the like...
Not everyone will exhibit every behavior, but these are general trends in every community I've observed.
Trans: there are some people who put a lot of thought into what they say. Thanks be to God/Allah/Buddha/Krishna/The TCP/IP stack/etc...
However your agressive attitude somewhat mirrors exactly the problem I had with the Policeman's attitude: start swearing and shouting, instead of just being pleasantly scolding about it. I could not see (because of a bus) that the road ahead was blocked, and it was late, so logically the fact that the left lane was free did not suggest to me that I shouldn't go there.
Come here to Morocco and let's watch you drive. Highest death toll per capita in the WORLD and I'm still alive after 4 years. Can't be that bewildered mate.
See History of the American Drug War
And of course, from The History of Cannabis
The USA unsuccessfully proposed that cannabis be discussed at the Hague Conference on opiates in 1912. Their enthusiasm for drug control was a mix of moralism and self-interest, both tending to boost America's developing international influence. Most medical drugs were imported, so controlling them made little difference to US domestic policy, but gave the US a moral and economic lever against their producers, mostly Britain and Germany.
Of course, there are harder drugs. But making them illegal doesn't make the problem go away, and it has been argued that it makes the problem worse. Methadone is often used to wean heroin addicts, a substance which is proven to be more addictive than heroin itself. Oh well.
But what I object to is that the Policeman says to me "Use you f***king eyes you w**ker" as his first words to me. That is quite unacceptable as far as I am concerned.
The BBC is public funded too. Brits pay a "television licence fee" to the tune of $150US per year, maybe even more now. So they don't necessarily have pots of cash either. Indeed, it is thanks to merchandising and program sales to foreign markets that the licence fee is so low. It seems ridiculous that the Police and another quasi-state owned institution should be battling legal battles. Cases like these just make lawyers rich from money in the public coffers, but there's nothing new about that.
P.S. If you were really drunk when you peed in a Police Box, you were probably over 18. So you were born in 1940-1950? They haven't been in public for a long long time... there were still red phone boxes until about 10 years ago though.