You say that it's not because of lack of user base. That OSX has 15-20% market share.
Well, let's look at it with your 20% and 1 billion computers.
200,000,000 computers installed with MacOSX(even assuming the 20% number is all OSX, which makes it dreadfully inflated).
800,000,000 computers with some version of Windows, some even being 9X or ME, significantly less secure than even a default XP install, much less a locked down one. (Yes, we're not counting Linux or other variants, they truly are a small share of the desktop).
We all know the infection rate isn't 100%, even with a 0day exploit(firewalls, paranoia, good lockdowns etc), so let's cut those numbers in half.
100,000,000 vs 400,000,000. If I were a virus writer, I'd be writing for Windows myself. The fame aspect is nice, but if you're making a botnet, or spam virus, or anything else, the most common kinds, then you go for the numbers.
Avant Browser is actually an alternative version, if it's not the direct descendant of, an IE browser called, I believe, IEOpera, who's goal, quite amusingly, was to bring Opera's features to IE.
Everything you listed on there is an Opera feature, and some of the more basic ones.
It's definately worth trying Opera out itself, if just because it's now completely free.
It's true that there's a risk, but it had over $3k/hour pouring in, and they didn't freeze it till it hit 20k, and they say it's because he can't provide a shipping number?
Precautions are one thing, this is something else.
You forget, this is slashdot. Using Windows is cruel to them.
And Rapists and child molesters are the scum of the earth. Cruel and Unusual punishment shouldn't apply to them.
Replace NC-17 movies with R movies, and the argument is perfectly valid. R movies require an adult to go with them, which is the equivilant of M games, where someone over 17 has to buy them.
As far as violent games giving you a better idea how to kill... yes, and so does a high school biology/anatomy class. The argument isn't that games teach people how to kill, it's that they MAKE them kill, usually by desensatizing them to killing so much that they go out and kill someone. The evening news SURELY desensatizes people to death and murder, they even make it their major ratings grabber sometimes, and elementary school students and up are ENCOURAGED to watch the news, and the most violent crimes and bloody accidents are the ones discussed the most.
People claim that an M-rated video game is accessable to children - yes, but no more so than an R rated movie or the evening news - and that it desensatizes anyone who plays it to violence and murder - again, possibly try, but no more so than your average R rated movie or the news. Infact, I'd say movies and news do it more, because you're not killing an imaginary little character, it's a real person who's being shot or blown up or getting decapitated.
As it's been said many times before, we live in a society where people are constantly shown violence. However, video games are the ones being attacked most often.
is you all have a problem with software that runs on the os of the majority of desktop users?
I can understand being mad if it's forcably denying someone non-windows when it works on non-windows, but it doesn't. They picked a piece of software that fits their needs(and probably for a fairly cheap price overall), and you're upset that the makers didn't make a copy for niche operating systems? Oh well, this really leaves you with 3 options:
1) Bitch and moan in the hope that they'll inconvinence the vast majority of the people by forcing a switch to new software, after people have gotten used to this software
2) Create your own open source copy, since isn't that what the whole "movement" is good at, taking other peoples ideas and remaking them?
or 3) Just filing your fucking forms in paper.
It's more the fact that they're basically offering to stream us a concert for their 10th anniversery, instead of, you know, giving us something we'd want.
And then on top of that, they're acting like we should be worshiping them for it.
My team is local to Georgia, we placed 1st at our regionals and got the Chairman award. We also got the Rookie award last year. In 2 years, we've received 6 awards. ^.^ We're gonna come out on top today.
Which division are you in?
Nah, it's closer to basketball than football. And when you gotta pick up balls around 23cm and carry them, or get up onto a 10' high bar, being 23' doesn't exactly work.
The first 10 seconds of a match are purely autonomous. Then, the rest of it is remote controlled. And a lot DOES have to do with the robot, as certein teams are VERY good at what they do. My team(the Wheeler High School Circuit Runners http://www.circuitrunners.com) have a 100% accuracy for getting on the bar, and our shooter has a 96% accuracy for making the shots. It's a very fun competition, you should really watch it.
Go Circuit Runners!
It is a good choice, especially since.NET SDK comes free, and you can get the #Develop IDE for free from the web. Provides an enviornment to learn VB.NET in, and the ability to move on to C# and then C/C++ if you want.
"Do away with free internet (email) accounts," he said. "If they aren't free then people will pay by credit card and that gives law enforcement some starting point.
"Microsoft and others who provide these services have to be brought to heel."
Thanks for paying attention though. I know that they haven't said they're going to, but they obviously WANT to. or atleast, a bunch of them do.
Ban free email? Can they actually do that? And HOW would they go about doing it? I doubt many of them would shut down if they banned, it's just become free PRIVATE emails, which doesn't help them much. So, any ideas on how they could actually do this? Especially if it's hosted in another country.
Maybe it did, but guess what, it describe the GPL partciularly well, though as someone pointed out above it describes all lisences to a point. "OMG, Microsoft might not be a bunch of money hungry guys!" Yes, I know this shocks you, but it's just possible.
Linux isn't going away, and if it is, we'll still have BSD, yeah? BSD's survived this battle before, and I think Linux can too. Somewhere down the line I forsee some kind of antitrust thing against SCO if they win this, and lots of hatred if they don't. SCO should've left Linux alone, because Linux is a group of rabid geeks who will do anything to defend their toy/work/hobby/friend.
Not true, I'd rather run a server on Linux than Windows. Not having daily security patches that'll let someone knock me off the net if I don't apply them is a plus side.
I'm sorry if I'm misinformed, but isn't the Linux kernel lisenced under the GPL? And isn't the GPL viral? I'm not a lawyer or anything, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean SCO CAN'T put out a new lisence on it?
You say that it's not because of lack of user base. That OSX has 15-20% market share. Well, let's look at it with your 20% and 1 billion computers. 200,000,000 computers installed with MacOSX(even assuming the 20% number is all OSX, which makes it dreadfully inflated). 800,000,000 computers with some version of Windows, some even being 9X or ME, significantly less secure than even a default XP install, much less a locked down one. (Yes, we're not counting Linux or other variants, they truly are a small share of the desktop). We all know the infection rate isn't 100%, even with a 0day exploit(firewalls, paranoia, good lockdowns etc), so let's cut those numbers in half. 100,000,000 vs 400,000,000. If I were a virus writer, I'd be writing for Windows myself. The fame aspect is nice, but if you're making a botnet, or spam virus, or anything else, the most common kinds, then you go for the numbers.
As it says, it's free to download for a year, free to use for life. And the debate is for a single person, so either way, it works.
Avant Browser is actually an alternative version, if it's not the direct descendant of, an IE browser called, I believe, IEOpera, who's goal, quite amusingly, was to bring Opera's features to IE. Everything you listed on there is an Opera feature, and some of the more basic ones. It's definately worth trying Opera out itself, if just because it's now completely free.
It's true that there's a risk, but it had over $3k/hour pouring in, and they didn't freeze it till it hit 20k, and they say it's because he can't provide a shipping number? Precautions are one thing, this is something else.
You forget, this is slashdot. Using Windows is cruel to them. And Rapists and child molesters are the scum of the earth. Cruel and Unusual punishment shouldn't apply to them.
Replace NC-17 movies with R movies, and the argument is perfectly valid. R movies require an adult to go with them, which is the equivilant of M games, where someone over 17 has to buy them. As far as violent games giving you a better idea how to kill... yes, and so does a high school biology/anatomy class. The argument isn't that games teach people how to kill, it's that they MAKE them kill, usually by desensatizing them to killing so much that they go out and kill someone. The evening news SURELY desensatizes people to death and murder, they even make it their major ratings grabber sometimes, and elementary school students and up are ENCOURAGED to watch the news, and the most violent crimes and bloody accidents are the ones discussed the most. People claim that an M-rated video game is accessable to children - yes, but no more so than an R rated movie or the evening news - and that it desensatizes anyone who plays it to violence and murder - again, possibly try, but no more so than your average R rated movie or the news. Infact, I'd say movies and news do it more, because you're not killing an imaginary little character, it's a real person who's being shot or blown up or getting decapitated. As it's been said many times before, we live in a society where people are constantly shown violence. However, video games are the ones being attacked most often.
is you all have a problem with software that runs on the os of the majority of desktop users? I can understand being mad if it's forcably denying someone non-windows when it works on non-windows, but it doesn't. They picked a piece of software that fits their needs(and probably for a fairly cheap price overall), and you're upset that the makers didn't make a copy for niche operating systems? Oh well, this really leaves you with 3 options: 1) Bitch and moan in the hope that they'll inconvinence the vast majority of the people by forcing a switch to new software, after people have gotten used to this software 2) Create your own open source copy, since isn't that what the whole "movement" is good at, taking other peoples ideas and remaking them? or 3) Just filing your fucking forms in paper.
It's more the fact that they're basically offering to stream us a concert for their 10th anniversery, instead of, you know, giving us something we'd want. And then on top of that, they're acting like we should be worshiping them for it.
But if ignornace of the law is no excuse for breaking it, why does it matter if you knew that what you're doing is wrong?
Searching out a lawyer to get specifics on the local laws is probably the best option.
I thought we settled States Rights during the civil war, and agreed no state could reject federal law ;)
My team is local to Georgia, we placed 1st at our regionals and got the Chairman award. We also got the Rookie award last year. In 2 years, we've received 6 awards. ^.^ We're gonna come out on top today. Which division are you in?
Nah, it's closer to basketball than football. And when you gotta pick up balls around 23cm and carry them, or get up onto a 10' high bar, being 23' doesn't exactly work.
The first 10 seconds of a match are purely autonomous. Then, the rest of it is remote controlled. And a lot DOES have to do with the robot, as certein teams are VERY good at what they do. My team(the Wheeler High School Circuit Runners http://www.circuitrunners.com) have a 100% accuracy for getting on the bar, and our shooter has a 96% accuracy for making the shots. It's a very fun competition, you should really watch it. Go Circuit Runners!
It is a good choice, especially since .NET SDK comes free, and you can get the #Develop IDE for free from the web. Provides an enviornment to learn VB.NET in, and the ability to move on to C# and then C/C++ if you want.
"Do away with free internet (email) accounts," he said. "If they aren't free then people will pay by credit card and that gives law enforcement some starting point. "Microsoft and others who provide these services have to be brought to heel." Thanks for paying attention though. I know that they haven't said they're going to, but they obviously WANT to. or atleast, a bunch of them do.
Ban free email? Can they actually do that? And HOW would they go about doing it? I doubt many of them would shut down if they banned, it's just become free PRIVATE emails, which doesn't help them much. So, any ideas on how they could actually do this? Especially if it's hosted in another country.
They consent to use the code, which forces them to release THEIR code as GPL. That's how it's viral.
Maybe it did, but guess what, it describe the GPL partciularly well, though as someone pointed out above it describes all lisences to a point. "OMG, Microsoft might not be a bunch of money hungry guys!" Yes, I know this shocks you, but it's just possible.
IBM's fighting for Linux this time.
Linux isn't going away, and if it is, we'll still have BSD, yeah? BSD's survived this battle before, and I think Linux can too. Somewhere down the line I forsee some kind of antitrust thing against SCO if they win this, and lots of hatred if they don't. SCO should've left Linux alone, because Linux is a group of rabid geeks who will do anything to defend their toy/work/hobby/friend.
Microsoft is getting involved with SCO again? Is it just me, or does Bill ENJOY going to court?
Not true, I'd rather run a server on Linux than Windows. Not having daily security patches that'll let someone knock me off the net if I don't apply them is a plus side.
Oh, so THEY'RE the one spamming my inbox =/
Funny AND insightful! Such a rarity, worth every mod point it can get ^.^
I'm sorry if I'm misinformed, but isn't the Linux kernel lisenced under the GPL? And isn't the GPL viral? I'm not a lawyer or anything, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean SCO CAN'T put out a new lisence on it?