Subsequently, the imaging software and related information "disappeared" from the public domain. Try to find any info on Ron Dantowitz's space shuttle pictures.
Right. Now try the same comparison with more complex documents. An xls that includes various buttons and other objects, along with the data. A Word doc with an embedded vid clip. A PPT, with a linked xls graph and chart.
For the business user, THOSE things do count. And when your client passes you an xls, they expect you to be able to read it and use. Added objects and all.
OO is getting there. And is GREAT in a standalone environment. But still not quite there if you have to send/receive M$Office docs.
sigh...it's not just simple Word docs, but also complex ppt and xls. AND, trying to get 200 major clients, among them the #1 consumer goods company in the world and the #1 carmaker in the world, to standardise on something other than M$ Office is an exercise in futility.
I DO have OpenOffice. And I'm sitting here looking at a medium complexity Excel spreadsheet, opened in OO 1.0-graphs, lotsa calcs, a few sliders to change values...
And it works. MOSTLY. The numbers add correctly, the graphs are about 90% the same visually.
But all the sliders and spinners and fancy stuff does not transfer. Zip, zero, nada. Not even there. A small thing, you say? Maybe. But if the customer you are dealing with is still using M$ products exclusively, what are you to do when they send you something that does not work 100%?
I REALLY like OpenOffice. Use it a lot. But to be usable on the job..a true replacement for M$ Ofice, it MUST read 100% of the elements in the M$ document, whatever they are.
This, of course, may be the fault of M$, because they won't open up their file formats. But currently, that's the way it is.
Add to that the ability to send and receive complex M$Office documents (Word,Excel,PPT) to many and varied clients. All of which DO use windows, and are not about to change.
Star -or OpenOffice is almost there, but not quite.
You miss the point. It's not the NASCAR thing, but the division of concentration aspect.
Delete NASCAR, and substitute any task intensive game while talking on the phone. It is different from a passenger in the car with you, because your focus is outside the vehicle. A passenger with you is awre of the situation from moment to moment, and can act accordingly. On the phone, it may be your boss asking "Where the f$ck is the spreadsheet for the Finster account?" And you're supposed to help him find it while driving.
Just try it sometime. see which way you have a better score, with or without the phone call.
Last actual "Official Declaration of War" was June 5, 1942, Rumania, Hungary, Bulgaria.
DS was a "Congressionally Authorized Military Engagement", like Vietnam.
where's the call up of reservists ?
Sept 14, 2001. Executive Order 13223
official declaration of war ?
We have not had an "official decralaration of war" since 1941. Yet thousands of military people have died in some things that look and smell curiously like wars.
All these cool features are aimed right at the young, hip, high school and college aged kids. I have a dozen female high school aged cousins, and they all had the latest and greatest phone that had every feature you could imagine.
You think HS and college kids don't drive? Those are the little puppies with the phone glued in their ear while driving.
As a bike commuter and road user, i hate these things. Anything that takes away a drivers concentration from what he is supposed to be doing (piloting a vehicle with more kinetic energy than a bullet) is generally not a GoodThing(tm).
Adding more features simply adds to the problem.
And for all you too cool users that say "Oh, *I* can drive just as good with my SuperZoomie hands free thing"...try it with a driving simulator sometime. Crank up a NASCAR game, and try to have a meaningful phone conversation while winning the race. Which happens first? Either you give up the phone conversation, or you crash.
Problem is, on the road, there is no reset. You merely die.
Yes, he has cost the company nothing because he wouldn't have bought it anyway. But that 15 year old kid would be a god with a lesser tool as well. Maybe not a broadcast quality finished product at the same level as something done with 3DSMax or Maya, but up to the limits of the whatever tool s/he used.
Talent shows. His demo reel would display concepts like design, flow, use of color, etc. Not competence in a specific tool.
Just like a race car. Just because you're good at age 15 (even REALLY good), doesn't mean a high $ ride in NASCAR or F1. Show your stuff in gocarts and migets first. Then the boss will pick up the cost of the topline tool. Be it a Grand National car, or a $5000 software package.
this makes me wonder why no lawsuits have been brought against video game companies for not allowing consumers to play cdr backups of the games that they've purchased (eg: playstation).
Different thing. Playstation games can be played ONLY on a playstation. CD (music) can be used on a variety of platforms. PC, CD player, home stereo, portable, copy to mp3 player, etc, etc.
They are preventing the use of CD (and the music on them) in platforms other than a base CD player.
The solution to buggy software will be alternative applications that are bug free.
There are no such alternative applications. Each and every software application in general use has bugs in it. They may not be found yet, they may be minor things, but they are there.
What fixed Detroit's poor quality cars? Cars from Japan that didn't have problems.
Change that to: Cars from Japan that didn't have so many problems
where you could choose a focus class in things like scuba, karate, swimming, running, sailing, canoeing, diving, judo, etc.
And the individual instructors for all these disciplines come from where? Hard enough just trying to get regular gym teachers, much less one for Judo, one for SCUBA, one for diving..
Sailing? who pays for the boats??
P2P for music is one thing You buy a CD, copy it t your HD, and make it available within Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella/whatever. You've bought it,and are (ilegally?) distributing it.
With TV, if JoeBlow wants the latest episode of Buffy, he can freakin record it himself! It's not like there is only one copy.
P2P is NOT a suitable model for everything. PDA's, PC's, cellphones....what's next, P2P basketballs? Morse code to your buddy as you bounce it?
You could even have a nice big fat UCAV with a halfassed AI and a whole pile of HARM missiles, doing nothing but flying circles and transmitting on the same frequency, just to get someone to turn on the jammer.
Then even the 3rd world flunky in an old F-4 or Mirage can shoot it down. THe AI for a fighter is DEFINATELY not there yet, and the remote piloting is only 'getting there'.
"When you have circles and ellipses, there is no way you'd be able to do this without a calculator," Jarvis said. "It helps us visualize what we're doing."
We visualized landing on the moon before calculators. Get a grip, young man, and learn your trade before using crutches.
Does anyone here know how to use a slide rule?
My point exactly. While we may be able to figure one out given a few minutes, we certainly didn't grow up using them.
It does not matter who did it first. M$, Apple, Xerox/PARC, whoever. M$, for better or worse, made it popular on the desktop. Same with Beta/VHS. First and better did not make it 'popular'.
And, like it or not, M$ has advanced, through a common user interface, the state of desktop computing.
Now that's just silly. But I think you really mean it, and are not trolling. So how do you figure that?
The FILE menu, and the Min/Max/Close buttons. Everything else derives from those. They provide a common location for common operations, across applications. Graphics, Office, CAD, file operations...all have similar ways to do similar tasks. This allows the general user to adapt quickly to a new tool. CLOSE is always in the same place. PRINT, EXIT, NEW, etc..etc.
Think back a couple years ago with the state of open source (LINUX based) desktop tools. Some good, some not so good. But none really had anything in common, as far as the GUI, with the other. Learning and using a new tool took far longer. It is getting much better, but still a larger learning curve for multiple apps than a set of Windows apps.
Through the common Windows API's, the developer did not have to reinvent the wheel each time to do the simple, basic things.
Is there a 'better' way to display the GUI to the user? Maybe. Probably. But a few years ago, there wasn't anything in general production, that would have been acceptable to the government and large corporations. So by default, Windows was it. And the standard interface allowed users to advance their skills MUCH faster than if they had to learn a new set of commands for each application. ANd allowed the developer to dispense with dealing with such mundane tasks as writing print drivers for each and every possible printer.
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Subsequently, the imaging software and related information "disappeared" from the public domain. Try to find any info on Ron Dantowitz's space shuttle pictures.
google is your friend.
Right. Now try the same comparison with more complex documents. An xls that includes various buttons and other objects, along with the data. A Word doc with an embedded vid clip. A PPT, with a linked xls graph and chart.
For the business user, THOSE things do count. And when your client passes you an xls, they expect you to be able to read it and use. Added objects and all.
OO is getting there. And is GREAT in a standalone environment. But still not quite there if you have to send/receive M$Office docs.
Ask them to send it as a RTF document.
sigh...it's not just simple Word docs, but also complex ppt and xls. AND, trying to get 200 major clients, among them the #1 consumer goods company in the world and the #1 carmaker in the world, to standardise on something other than M$ Office is an exercise in futility.
I DO have OpenOffice. And I'm sitting here looking at a medium complexity Excel spreadsheet, opened in OO 1.0-graphs, lotsa calcs, a few sliders to change values...
And it works. MOSTLY. The numbers add correctly, the graphs are about 90% the same visually.
But all the sliders and spinners and fancy stuff does not transfer. Zip, zero, nada. Not even there. A small thing, you say? Maybe. But if the customer you are dealing with is still using M$ products exclusively, what are you to do when they send you something that does not work 100%?
I REALLY like OpenOffice. Use it a lot. But to be usable on the job..a true replacement for M$ Ofice, it MUST read 100% of the elements in the M$ document, whatever they are.
This, of course, may be the fault of M$, because they won't open up their file formats. But currently, that's the way it is.
Add to that the ability to send and receive complex M$Office documents (Word,Excel,PPT) to many and varied clients. All of which DO use windows, and are not about to change.
Star -or OpenOffice is almost there, but not quite.
You miss the point. It's not the NASCAR thing, but the division of concentration aspect.
Delete NASCAR, and substitute any task intensive game while talking on the phone. It is different from a passenger in the car with you, because your focus is outside the vehicle. A passenger with you is awre of the situation from moment to moment, and can act accordingly. On the phone, it may be your boss asking "Where the f$ck is the spreadsheet for the Finster account?" And you're supposed to help him find it while driving.
Just try it sometime. see which way you have a better score, with or without the phone call.
Is there an AOL client for Linux? Don't think so.
That may put a brake on things. Unfortunately, AOhelL IS the biggest way people get online. No AOL...a lot of people will pass.
Almost the same, but not quite. Information regarding Declarations of War
Last actual "Official Declaration of War" was June 5, 1942, Rumania, Hungary, Bulgaria.
DS was a "Congressionally Authorized Military Engagement", like Vietnam.
Not to quibble with your other points, but:
where's the call up of reservists ?
Sept 14, 2001. Executive Order 13223
official declaration of war ?
We have not had an "official decralaration of war" since 1941. Yet thousands of military people have died in some things that look and smell curiously like wars.
There is not point in living in a country that makes you fear the Government.
There is no point in a government that makes its own citizens fear it.
All these cool features are aimed right at the young, hip, high school and college aged kids. I have a dozen female high school aged cousins, and they all had the latest and greatest phone that had every feature you could imagine.
You think HS and college kids don't drive? Those are the little puppies with the phone glued in their ear while driving.
I drive just fine tho, I find that I lose track of the phone conversation if anything, not have trouble driving.
Then why bother with the phone call/video feed/SMS/email at all?
whatever..:) Use ANY driving simulator. For that matter, any game with a constantly changing GUI. FPS, flight sim, racing sim, GTA3...
See how fast you die while talking on the phone vs not talking.
As a bike commuter and road user, i hate these things. Anything that takes away a drivers concentration from what he is supposed to be doing (piloting a vehicle with more kinetic energy than a bullet) is generally not a GoodThing(tm).
Adding more features simply adds to the problem.
And for all you too cool users that say "Oh, *I* can drive just as good with my SuperZoomie hands free thing"...try it with a driving simulator sometime. Crank up a NASCAR game, and try to have a meaningful phone conversation while winning the race. Which happens first? Either you give up the phone conversation, or you crash.
Problem is, on the road, there is no reset. You merely die.
Yes, he has cost the company nothing because he wouldn't have bought it anyway. But that 15 year old kid would be a god with a lesser tool as well. Maybe not a broadcast quality finished product at the same level as something done with 3DSMax or Maya, but up to the limits of the whatever tool s/he used.
Talent shows. His demo reel would display concepts like design, flow, use of color, etc. Not competence in a specific tool.
Just like a race car. Just because you're good at age 15 (even REALLY good), doesn't mean a high $ ride in NASCAR or F1. Show your stuff in gocarts and migets first. Then the boss will pick up the cost of the topline tool. Be it a Grand National car, or a $5000 software package.
this makes me wonder why no lawsuits have been brought against video game companies for not allowing consumers to play cdr backups of the games that they've purchased (eg: playstation).
Different thing. Playstation games can be played ONLY on a playstation. CD (music) can be used on a variety of platforms. PC, CD player, home stereo, portable, copy to mp3 player, etc, etc.
They are preventing the use of CD (and the music on them) in platforms other than a base CD player.
The solution to buggy software will be alternative applications that are bug free.
There are no such alternative applications. Each and every software application in general use has bugs in it. They may not be found yet, they may be minor things, but they are there.
What fixed Detroit's poor quality cars? Cars from Japan that didn't have problems.
Change that to: Cars from Japan that didn't have so many problems
where you could choose a focus class in things like scuba, karate, swimming, running, sailing, canoeing, diving, judo, etc.
And the individual instructors for all these disciplines come from where? Hard enough just trying to get regular gym teachers, much less one for Judo, one for SCUBA, one for diving..
Sailing? who pays for the boats??
P2P for music is one thing You buy a CD, copy it t your HD, and make it available within Kazaa/Morpheus/Gnutella/whatever. You've bought it,and are (ilegally?) distributing it.
With TV, if JoeBlow wants the latest episode of Buffy, he can freakin record it himself! It's not like there is only one copy.
P2P is NOT a suitable model for everything. PDA's, PC's, cellphones....what's next, P2P basketballs? Morse code to your buddy as you bounce it?
You could even have a nice big fat UCAV with a halfassed AI and a whole pile of HARM missiles, doing nothing but flying circles and transmitting on the same frequency, just to get someone to turn on the jammer.
Then even the 3rd world flunky in an old F-4 or Mirage can shoot it down. THe AI for a fighter is DEFINATELY not there yet, and the remote piloting is only 'getting there'.
"When you have circles and ellipses, there is no way you'd be able to do this without a calculator," Jarvis said. "It helps us visualize what we're doing."
We visualized landing on the moon before calculators. Get a grip, young man, and learn your trade before using crutches.
Does anyone here know how to use a slide rule? My point exactly. While we may be able to figure one out given a few minutes, we certainly didn't grow up using them.
We? Speak for yourself, whippersnapper...:)
It does not matter who did it first. M$, Apple, Xerox/PARC, whoever. M$, for better or worse, made it popular on the desktop. Same with Beta/VHS. First and better did not make it 'popular'.
Now what were we talking about before?
Maybe time to reconsider seatbelts on aircarft. These trains trains are still slower than 560 mph.
Seatbelts on aircraft keep you from bouncing off the ceiling in turbulence. Trains have no vertical motion.
And, like it or not, M$ has advanced, through a common user interface, the state of desktop computing.
Now that's just silly. But I think you really mean it, and are not trolling. So how do you figure that?
The FILE menu, and the Min/Max/Close buttons. Everything else derives from those. They provide a common location for common operations, across applications. Graphics, Office, CAD, file operations...all have similar ways to do similar tasks. This allows the general user to adapt quickly to a new tool. CLOSE is always in the same place. PRINT, EXIT, NEW, etc..etc.
Think back a couple years ago with the state of open source (LINUX based) desktop tools. Some good, some not so good. But none really had anything in common, as far as the GUI, with the other. Learning and using a new tool took far longer. It is getting much better, but still a larger learning curve for multiple apps than a set of Windows apps.
Through the common Windows API's, the developer did not have to reinvent the wheel each time to do the simple, basic things.
Is there a 'better' way to display the GUI to the user? Maybe. Probably. But a few years ago, there wasn't anything in general production, that would have been acceptable to the government and large corporations. So by default, Windows was it. And the standard interface allowed users to advance their skills MUCH faster than if they had to learn a new set of commands for each application. ANd allowed the developer to dispense with dealing with such mundane tasks as writing print drivers for each and every possible printer.
This is not new information.