Uhhh.. no, it would check where you are clicking against a known list of bad sites. It doesn't state or imply that Opera would record anything in logging. It's a simple real-time check...
If the original poster reads one response.. Let it be the parent to this comment.
It's 1000% accurate.
I wanted to learn C++, (for a multitude of reasons) and while I had read text after text about the syntax of the language, I still found myself 'lost' while reading SDK's.
So I took the time one day to come up with a project that would require me to code something 'real' in C++ using a SDK (Half-Life 2 mod for those interested). Now while I work on various aspects of my game it forces me to learn practical applications of the syntax I read about before.
Now is my code as clean as it could be? Probably not.. The most efficient code ever written? Nope. But I now have more of a working knowledge of C++ than I would have ever had by simply reading text books.
tbh, it doesn't matter if he's Bill 'freakin' Gates, has multiple fibre-lines running into his house and has server rack upon server rack in his basement. If they can't find the files in question on his machine AND he can produce reasonable doubt , they 'should' have a tough time prosecuting him.
And don't you know, internet pirates be dangerous people YARR!!! What's a little bit o' perjury for those scurvy devils....
Now I feel stupid for missing the even bigger shocker in this case.
On an 'unrelated' note: I think Bill Gates is ripping off my source code, I'll create some random documents that "support" that notion and I'm on my way to Redmond to have him open up the new Windows Source Code so I can verify my stuff isn't in there.
1) Is anyone else extremely troubled by the following line from the article "A DVD that retails for $21.99 could cost a local man more than $100,000,". Seriously? $100,000? Quick math tells me that he would have had to share the movie 4,547 and 1/2 times to have shared enough copies to equal that price tag. I get the idea of a deterent but man. Side note even if the film was compressed to around 700 megs or so (to fit on a CD) that would take 3,183,265 and some change megabyes of bandwidth (3 terabytes if my late nite mind is still working at all) to share that file that many times. Seems a little unlikely the punishment fits the crime.
2) Isn't there a burden of proof on the prosecution in this case? Don't they have to show he was the one responsible for uploading the file? If someone steals my car then commits a drive by shooting, I can't be held responsible, can I? To me, having an open wireless access point seems perfectly reasonable (if that is your preference) and it would seem to be a tough sell to get a judge to fine this guy when there's no evidence he did anything wrong and he can produce a line of reasonable doubt.
I'm not up to date on case law in the US, so maybe I'm wrong but seems really shaky at first glance.
I would think this would be an interesting case for lawyers to debate over. After all if the RIAA are preventing artists from distributing their music by a specific means, that certainly would be actionable.
Time to get a few lawsuits moving in the opposite direction against the RIAA, after all in their bubble they actually think they are speaking on behalf of all recording artists, someone needs to step up and show them through the only means that seem to get through to them that they are missing the boat and actually hindering independant artists.
The issue with this isn't the current implementation. Everything that's created to better mankind or to deliver a service starts off being utopian and pristine. It just takes time for people to start finding and using the more sinister applications of this or any other kind of service.
Examples: Email - Started off with being a convenient, quick and easy way to exchange information.. Now - Cialis and Viagra ads as far as the eye can see
Web surfing - Intended as a way to access massive amounts of information quickly and easily, basically sharing the worlds knowledgebase.. Now - Pop-up, Pop-over, Pop-under, and Glom-on ads everywhere.
So in conclusion this may provide a useful service for the first year or so, then once the government realizes they need to find a specific person, or the cell phone companies need to find out how many of their subscribers travel which roadways (to help drive advertising to non-subscribers) then it will like so many other cool ideas, just turn into a pain in the ass.
Well sorry to hear that however I've worked for many organizations where the future road map has been supplemented by ideas and concepts shared by customers who want to see additional functionality in their products.
Now of course not any/every idea automatically is implemeted/accepted but the way it normally works is 1 person brings forward an idea, and others take it and refine it and provided it's a feature that there is a benefit to (and having customers wanting it is usually quite a benefit), then it's scheduled for implementation. Sad to see other companies not using their best resources.
Considering almost every product shipping today takes suggestions from the people who use it on a regular basis, I don't see how this is different at all. It's actually quite smart. By asking for input from a fanatical community (meant in a complimentary way) they are ensuring that the product meets the needs of those who use it.
I know it's kind of a NEW way of doing business, actually getting customer feedback and improving the product (where reasonable) based on it, but having a product that meets expectations right out of the gate should never be considered a bad thing, right?
It's the same logic that makes the Beta process so useful, people who want the product to suceed contributing useful feedback.
To be honest, the fact that this product will meet your needs as a consumer and not suck should be all the thanks you need..
Yes, you need not look any further than your admittance to filesharing to see an example of your high-moral fibre....
Short lesson, downloading music or movies you didn't pay for is still stealing and while I certainly don't agree with the RIAA or MPAA or any other 4 letter organization's handling of new technology, to imply that what you are doing is any better than the other listed crimes is insane....
I'm not sure what the issue with the other graphics were. 8 bit Zelda was rather cartoonish, as was the 16 bit SNES Zelda.
Zelda was never touted as a "realistic" game, and was instead a fun RPG romp. Splinter Cell and the myriad of FPS games need to have realistic graphics in order to convey a sense of place and time. Zelda was never about being in a real world, it was the land of Hyrule where sticking out your sword in one direction was the name of the game. I'm not saying Zelda can't grow up and take advantage of the new graphics, but why push the game in a more realistic vein?? It's like making the new Street Fighter and using actors for Ken/Ryu. It worked for MK, but SF was about that cartoonish feeling.
Or more likely (because of the convenience of the situation and the fact that they are obviously already familiar with the methods to accomplish this), simply downloading the CD's in question.
On a side note, how does this finding 'new bands' thing work anyway, type random words or spelling mistakes into Kazaa and poof new band is found?
The vast majority of people search for Britney Spears or Beastie Boys, not Random Band name. It's a fine arguement to use in theory and I'm sure someone will reply and talk about how they found Band X through a similar method and bought all 30 of their CD's (6 copies of each in fact) but realistically all this has ever been is a way for someone to download the latest top 40 hits without buying the album, justify it all you want (RIAA is evil, CD's are too expensive, only 1 good song per album etc etc), you are downloading an album that you didn't pay for. Period.
And for those people who are saying "Well we are only doing this because we have no viable alternative", that argument was made moot the day ITunes.com and Napster were released. At this point there are viable alternatives, and yet music piracy is still a HUGE business... As time goes on, if those methods prove to be profitable (as people say they will be), then more and better methods will be served.
Hollywood reported global revenue of $84 billion in 2004, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers, the accounting firm. With most theatrical releases amounting to little more than an unprofitable, expensive form of marketing, DVD's have become Hollywood's lifeblood: together with videos, they kick in $55.6 billion, or about two-thirds of the industry's annual haul, with box-office receipts making up most of the rest.
I'm really surprised (after reading that) that Hollywood doesn't have a problem with Video Rental, I mean anyone who plunks a 5 dollar bill on the counter can walk away with any movie and watch it. Sure the industry gets the initial $$$ from the sale of the DVD but if 50 people rent that DVD, now Hollywood has taken a huge loss. (49 potential DVD sales).
Sometimes you have to make choices that hurt. Companies do this every day by laying off productive workers in favour of having a larger profit margin.
Pirating someones album isn't helping the musician anymore than not buying it is.
The only way the RIAA gets any sort of message is when they start seeing albums sitting on shelves and piracy numbers still really low. THEN they have something to worry about. As long as they can determine X number of people downloaded album Y illegally, they know there is still money to be made and will continue in an attempt to force people to buy the product. But if the demand goes away......
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Uhhh.. no, it would check where you are clicking against a known list of bad sites. It doesn't state or imply that Opera would record anything in logging. It's a simple real-time check...
If the original poster reads one response.. Let it be the parent to this comment. It's 1000% accurate. I wanted to learn C++, (for a multitude of reasons) and while I had read text after text about the syntax of the language, I still found myself 'lost' while reading SDK's. So I took the time one day to come up with a project that would require me to code something 'real' in C++ using a SDK (Half-Life 2 mod for those interested). Now while I work on various aspects of my game it forces me to learn practical applications of the syntax I read about before. Now is my code as clean as it could be? Probably not.. The most efficient code ever written? Nope. But I now have more of a working knowledge of C++ than I would have ever had by simply reading text books.
tbh, it doesn't matter if he's Bill 'freakin' Gates, has multiple fibre-lines running into his house and has server rack upon server rack in his basement. If they can't find the files in question on his machine AND he can produce reasonable doubt , they 'should' have a tough time prosecuting him.
And don't you know, internet pirates be dangerous people YARR!!! What's a little bit o' perjury for those scurvy devils....
Now I feel stupid for missing the even bigger shocker in this case.
On an 'unrelated' note: I think Bill Gates is ripping off my source code, I'll create some random documents that "support" that notion and I'm on my way to Redmond to have him open up the new Windows Source Code so I can verify my stuff isn't in there.
1) Is anyone else extremely troubled by the following line from the article "A DVD that retails for $21.99 could cost a local man more than $100,000,".
Seriously? $100,000? Quick math tells me that he would have had to share the movie 4,547 and 1/2 times to have shared enough copies to equal that price tag. I get the idea of a deterent but man. Side note even if the film was compressed to around 700 megs or so (to fit on a CD) that would take 3,183,265 and some change megabyes of bandwidth (3 terabytes if my late nite mind is still working at all) to share that file that many times. Seems a little unlikely the punishment fits the crime.
2) Isn't there a burden of proof on the prosecution in this case? Don't they have to show he was the one responsible for uploading the file? If someone steals my car then commits a drive by shooting, I can't be held responsible, can I? To me, having an open wireless access point seems perfectly reasonable (if that is your preference) and it would seem to be a tough sell to get a judge to fine this guy when there's no evidence he did anything wrong and he can produce a line of reasonable doubt.
I'm not up to date on case law in the US, so maybe I'm wrong but seems really shaky at first glance.
I would think this would be an interesting case for lawyers to debate over. After all if the RIAA are preventing artists from distributing their music by a specific means, that certainly would be actionable.
Time to get a few lawsuits moving in the opposite direction against the RIAA, after all in their bubble they actually think they are speaking on behalf of all recording artists, someone needs to step up and show them through the only means that seem to get through to them that they are missing the boat and actually hindering independant artists.
The issue with this isn't the current implementation. Everything that's created to better mankind or to deliver a service starts off being utopian and pristine. It just takes time for people to start finding and using the more sinister applications of this or any other kind of service.
Examples: Email - Started off with being a convenient, quick and easy way to exchange information.. Now - Cialis and Viagra ads as far as the eye can see
Web surfing - Intended as a way to access massive amounts of information quickly and easily, basically sharing the worlds knowledgebase.. Now - Pop-up, Pop-over, Pop-under, and Glom-on ads everywhere.
So in conclusion this may provide a useful service for the first year or so, then once the government realizes they need to find a specific person, or the cell phone companies need to find out how many of their subscribers travel which roadways (to help drive advertising to non-subscribers) then it will like so many other cool ideas, just turn into a pain in the ass.
I wonder if Bains Digital has any sort of recourse considering their product is also called Defender...
Maybe a nice fat check to purchase the name?
Well sorry to hear that however I've worked for many organizations where the future road map has been supplemented by ideas and concepts shared by customers who want to see additional functionality in their products.
Now of course not any/every idea automatically is implemeted/accepted but the way it normally works is 1 person brings forward an idea, and others take it and refine it and provided it's a feature that there is a benefit to (and having customers wanting it is usually quite a benefit), then it's scheduled for implementation. Sad to see other companies not using their best resources.
Would they have any choice? My point was simply that DNS plays a much larger role in how the internet operates than the original parent stated.
Yeah, why innovate and improve when we can maintain the status quo... That's forward thinking of you..
ROFL, yes DNS has nothing to do with looking up the correct IP address when I enter any domain name...
Certainly has nothing to do with not redirecting me to Ford's website when I enter GM's address...
That is not 'any control' at all..
Considering almost every product shipping today takes suggestions from the people who use it on a regular basis, I don't see how this is different at all. It's actually quite smart. By asking for input from a fanatical community (meant in a complimentary way) they are ensuring that the product meets the needs of those who use it.
I know it's kind of a NEW way of doing business, actually getting customer feedback and improving the product (where reasonable) based on it, but having a product that meets expectations right out of the gate should never be considered a bad thing, right?
It's the same logic that makes the Beta process so useful, people who want the product to suceed contributing useful feedback.
To be honest, the fact that this product will meet your needs as a consumer and not suck should be all the thanks you need..
Firefox zealot down!!!!
"I'm running the latest beta, if you don't then you deserve to have all the nasty exploits"
You make it sound like 1.0.7 is 6 months old and there have been 3-4 version updates since then.
Way to share your ignorance with everyone..
Thank you for allowing that pleasant memory to be brought back from the deep recesses of my mind...
H HHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh' as you fell down a pit will never be forgotten..
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That and 'AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
This is the Canadian version of the RIAA, so it's not surprising it's a little more polite :)
Yes, you need not look any further than your admittance to filesharing to see an example of your high-moral fibre....
Short lesson, downloading music or movies you didn't pay for is still stealing and while I certainly don't agree with the RIAA or MPAA or any other 4 letter organization's handling of new technology, to imply that what you are doing is any better than the other listed crimes is insane....
In an attempt to be funny, you instead show your ignorance...
Nice job.
I'm not sure what the issue with the other graphics were. 8 bit Zelda was rather cartoonish, as was the 16 bit SNES Zelda.
Zelda was never touted as a "realistic" game, and was instead a fun RPG romp. Splinter Cell and the myriad of FPS games need to have realistic graphics in order to convey a sense of place and time. Zelda was never about being in a real world, it was the land of Hyrule where sticking out your sword in one direction was the name of the game. I'm not saying Zelda can't grow up and take advantage of the new graphics, but why push the game in a more realistic vein?? It's like making the new Street Fighter and using actors for Ken/Ryu. It worked for MK, but SF was about that cartoonish feeling.
Wow that's a great question. Let's put the study to a live test...
Or more likely (because of the convenience of the situation and the fact that they are obviously already familiar with the methods to accomplish this), simply downloading the CD's in question.
On a side note, how does this finding 'new bands' thing work anyway, type random words or spelling mistakes into Kazaa and poof new band is found?
The vast majority of people search for Britney Spears or Beastie Boys, not Random Band name. It's a fine arguement to use in theory and I'm sure someone will reply and talk about how they found Band X through a similar method and bought all 30 of their CD's (6 copies of each in fact) but realistically all this has ever been is a way for someone to download the latest top 40 hits without buying the album, justify it all you want (RIAA is evil, CD's are too expensive, only 1 good song per album etc etc), you are downloading an album that you didn't pay for. Period.
And for those people who are saying "Well we are only doing this because we have no viable alternative", that argument was made moot the day ITunes.com and Napster were released. At this point there are viable alternatives, and yet music piracy is still a HUGE business... As time goes on, if those methods prove to be profitable (as people say they will be), then more and better methods will be served.
You are wrong...
I personally know of at least 30-40 people who have sworn off downloading music because they fear being sued. That means it's having some impact.
Now if I know that many (including my parents/brother/wife/brother-in-law and various friends), imagine how many more there are.
The lawsuits have done what they were supposed to. Scare the average computer user back into line. It's sad but true.
Hollywood reported global revenue of $84 billion in 2004, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers, the accounting firm. With most theatrical releases amounting to little more than an unprofitable, expensive form of marketing, DVD's have become Hollywood's lifeblood: together with videos, they kick in $55.6 billion, or about two-thirds of the industry's annual haul, with box-office receipts making up most of the rest.
I'm really surprised (after reading that) that Hollywood doesn't have a problem with Video Rental, I mean anyone who plunks a 5 dollar bill on the counter can walk away with any movie and watch it. Sure the industry gets the initial $$$ from the sale of the DVD but if 50 people rent that DVD, now Hollywood has taken a huge loss. (49 potential DVD sales).
100% True, remember the days of Napster prior to the lawsuits??? Millions and millions of people freely downloading 100's and 100's of songs...
If there was 0% risk everyone who found out about it, would do it.
Sometimes you have to make choices that hurt. Companies do this every day by laying off productive workers in favour of having a larger profit margin.
Pirating someones album isn't helping the musician anymore than not buying it is.
The only way the RIAA gets any sort of message is when they start seeing albums sitting on shelves and piracy numbers still really low. THEN they have something to worry about. As long as they can determine X number of people downloaded album Y illegally, they know there is still money to be made and will continue in an attempt to force people to buy the product. But if the demand goes away......