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Kazaa Forced To Modify Search Engine
An anonymous reader writes "Eminem, Madonna and Kylie Minogue are just some of the popular artists whose songs are to be blocked from being illegally distributed on the peer-to-peer network Kazaa following Federal Court orders in Australia yesterday. Sharman Networks, the owner of Kazaa, was ordered by the courts to modify the file-sharing software to block a list of search terms -- primarily artist and song names. The search terms are also to be supplied by record companies. The directive follows the record companies' court victory in September against individuals and organizations associated with Kazaa."
That Erminem and Mardonna are the new hot searches on the Kaaza network
Perhaps the banning of the keyword phrase `fuck the riaa`? In case they haven't noticed, there are so many fakes on there anyway that a name isnt an accurate guarantee of what a file contains. But of course this matters not so long as the RIAA can line their pockers with consumers' money.
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Is this the same legal battle thats been going on for the last few years? Or is this a completely new one?
or Pig Latin, etc... when will they learn?
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Apart from the obvious slashdot also has this technology in place:
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I thought kazaa was long dead and buried and reduced to nothingness.
I know noone who uses it anymore, its all BT and eDonkey type stuff.
Another obvious thought here, could I supply my own list of copyrighted files and make sure they aren't searchable, my company has copyrighted files which should be protectable, wheres the web interface to do it?
Or is this another anal raping by the music industry just to get their own way?
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Now, Independent artists artists who actually want to have their music shared can actually find a market. The big labels already have their marketing channel (radio + TV). Now, there's one for the independents.
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first the search engine on bram cohens torrent client, now this. just like they took down supernova. i wish they would just wise up and provide a decent enough alternative, although marks for effectiveness. wonder what the next big craze will be. maybe just a different torrent client with a good search in it.
Who still uses Kazaa?
From the newbie people I've helped with their pc's, I've only seen 1 with kazaa still installed.
Most of them have moved on to other "better" methods of downloading their music/etc.
Does Kazaa still have spyware btw?
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I highly doubt Kylie Minogue is the only Kylie out there with recorded material, for example. Blocking specific artist+album+song combinations might be reasonable, but there's a lot of room for false positives.
In time, even more absurd terms may become blocked... eg, The.
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Here is an example of one of the song names that was a part of the complaint against kazaa "Yellow". This basicly means anyone searching for "yellow something" is going to have their download blocked.
TFA doesn't specify what Kazaa has done wrong. The second link talks about "authorizing" users to infringe copyright. In the US, at least, the DMCA had some kind of "safe harbor" provision for search engines. Is the music industry going "It's illegal; we'll write the law later" and paying the judge to look the other way, or?
You can always use eMule (win32) / amule (linux/max/e.a.) Shareaza (win32) or limewire (win/max/javathingy) to perform those searches for you.
The music labels got to realize if they push the p2p networks too hard the p2p clients will go underground into anonymous networks
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So they started out in Europe, and only moved to Australia/Vanuatu because of RIAA pressure. Why don't they just sell the assets to a Vanuatu company and move the whole thing offshore?
Are the new guys, operating out of Australia/Vanuatu, somehow more legit than the guys who ran it before?
I thought the Kazaa guys were the sort to do "anything to win", including fairly Talmudic stuff like what they've already done (splitting the ads from the network itself, so that they can claim that they aren't really able to know about or stop infringing).
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It's a shame no-one has thought of including a list of child porn related keywords to help prevent file sharing of images and movies that exploit children.
But I guess there is no money in stopping child porn.
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So what are the standard rewritting rules to evade dumb pattern matching ? Writing backward ? L33tsp33k ? doubling characters ? Cockney Rhyming Slang ?
The W3C should set up a list of standardized procedure.
Funny, this is exactly what they tried with Napster back in my days ...
Yet again, we have the RIAA showing their complete ignorance of technology, and applying bullish tactics that will only succeed in irritating.
10,000 words list? I can pretty much bet that most of these will be very general i.e. 'Kylie' instead of 'Kylie Minogue', so any artist named Kylie who want to bypass the grabing hands of the record industry and distribute themselves will now have a much harder time.
It is absolutely crazy how this can happen. RIAA get a levy on blank media because some might end up with their copyright material. They install software on you machines becuase you might try to copy one of their cds. They now block 10,000 search terms on Kazaa because they might be used to 'steal' their copyright material. And for the many people who wish to use those terms for ligitimate reasons? Tough luck.
Have a look at the riaa web site, and you will read much about how they see themselves as the protectors of culture and music. What a load of crap. They are just middle men, and middle men that have no purpose, now that technology can provide the functionailty that they have in the past.
Those still using Kazaa haven't updated to other P2P tools.
Why would they update to the new "limited functionality" Kazaa?
Or if it in fact is a forced update (is that even allowed by the EULA?), they will finally move on to DC, BT....
Problem: "I can't search for Eminem or any of his titles."
Solution: Rename all of your Eminem files.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Why doesnt someone invent a P2P network that combines the best elements of networks/clients like kazza/fasttrack (back when it didnt suck) with the best elements of open source clients like emule.
If the RIAA wants to attack an open source client with copies of the source code on websites all over the world and a licence that lets anyone make any changes they like and redistrubute, good for them.
I thought the whole idea of these new p2p networks was that they were decentralized which means any form of censorship has to be imposed at the application level. So doesn't this mean that third partly clients like KazzaLite are immune to these block lists?
And as nobody uses Kazza because of it's malware payload putting a blocklist in Kazza alone has about as much affect on piracy as blocking searches in bittorent.com
Please correct me if I'm wrong!
Maybe it's a large scale meatware solution where a downloading clip is streamed in real time into a room full of music experts, probably in Bombay?
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
1) Generic terms to block will make it difficult to search for other items. My favourite artist, "Kylie Kylie" distributes only through Kazaa. Now I can't find her stuff.
2) Not everything related to those the scum are allegedly protecting is copyrighted. I'm sure there used to be several free public domain photos of Eminem that you could find on Kazaa. No longer possible.
3) They just plain suck, don't they?
Idiots. Instead of researching the reason why people are willing to download music from P2P (such as CDs no longer being a trustable source, and legally downloadable music has impractical DRM and low quality sound, prices too high across the board) they sue people and make stupid keyword blocks on software.
I always used to do the best job I could to ensure artists are compensated, by buying music I listen to (ok, the suits and lawers got the money not the artists, but that's not the point). Nowadays they're making it increasingly hard for people to actually do the right thing. Sorry, I don't want a virus ridden PC thanks to your infected CDs - I feel much safer downloading my music. And since your stupid DRM sites don't work with my music player, I have no choice but to P2P. It's your own fault, guys. Give me no valid source, and I have no choice but to make my own.
They will also want to eliminate the p2p aspect of it. From the article:
"Audible Magic involves getting the fingerprints for all songs," said a QC acting for Sharman, John Ireland. "You put a black box between two peers and if someone wants to copy something on the list, you can't do it," he said.
They want to basically make all transfers centralised through this black box, making Kazaa nothing more than a glorified web-based download service.
Not that it matters to anyone...does anyone use Kazaa anyway? Those who want to obtain their music via questionable means probably use other services nowadays.
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The riaa is certain their minimal search restriction (only 26 terms!!!) will improove their popularity, since they're usually known for draconian measures!
am i having a feeling of deja vu or is it those darned onions i had for lunch???
does anyone remember when this happened to napster? i remember back in the day you would try to search for like papa roach and you wouldnt find anything, so you typed in poppa rowch - same phonetics, just different letters. you would keep on trying until a giant list of them would appear - then you hit the jackpot :-D. most were pretty obvious though. this will most likely just happen again, or people will stop using kazaa and go to limewire or the like.
Can you block m-a-d-o-n-n-a?
I don't think you can block any madonna-related string.
Anyway, who really cares about such crap as eminem?
...is a title that Madonna has used for both an album and a song, which seems to make using Kazaa for anything "interesting" kind of pointless.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Like you said, it's about lining their pockets. One method : Deliberately add words to the list that end up with independant artists (who might release their music on Kazaa themselves) getting blocked.
Prevent your competition from getting exposure = preventing them from becoming 'real' competition.
Me? Paranoid? naaaaaaa.
Hint to Sharman: Modify your client to download a list of bad keywords to your client directory. Call this list of bad keywords "badsearchterms.txt" and load it from the disk everytime the user makes a search. At the very least, this should buy you some more time. (The sad part is, the filter would probably still work on 90% of KaZaA users.)
While I support new and upcoming musicans and purchase their music, I refuse to pay, what I think is a high price, for an established artist, who has made a crazy amount of money, so that they can add it to their already extravagant life style.
What I object to is the record labels crying poor, and prices dictated to us by them, instead of it being market driven. Yet the "poor" artists live in houses the size of small countries, have enough cars to keep a production line working full time.
I also object to the movie industry as well, for a similar reason, but even worse. If I buy anything from a shop, and I get it home and find that it doesn't meet my expectations, I am quiet within my rights to return the goods. Not the same with Movies, and I am afraid that the blair witch project was icing on the cake for me. I paid $15 to see what I thought was an absolute crap movie, and was anything but entertained. Ever since that point, I download movies to see if they are any good, and I would want to watch them again. If they are, then I purchase the DVD. I use to think along the lines of purchasing a movie on DVD before I had seen it, now I have so many coffee cup coasters it isn't funny.
What they're failing to take into account is limewire's recent addition of voluntary licencing, whereby if a file has a licence attached, it shows this. Limewire has already publicly announced that it will become mandatory to have licenced content and unlicenced content will be banned.
Forgive me for thinking the entire point of p2p was freedom to share files. Next time you want to download those fedora ISO images, tough luck. Next time you want to share some music you created yourself, that's unfortunate.
Another example of record company bullying that's going to mess with the whole underlying idea of p2p
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The goal of anti piracy measures is not (realistically) to eliminate all piracy. Rather, it's to make piracy a relative hassle so that more people will stay clear of it.
For EVERY anti-piracy mechanism there will be some workaround - be it a rename, a magic marker, a shift key, a crack, a patch, or whatever. That's not the point. The point is that the more of a pain or the more specific knowledge it takes to do such a workaround, statistically fewer people will do it. Every fake file, threat of lawsuit, etc is an attempt to curb the RATE of piracy, not some idyllic attempt to eliminate it altogether.
I think the same filtering measures were applied to audio galaxy...
I remember downloading the whole "jamiroquo" collection in a few hours.
BTW where's that 'Mass Set Tag' button on your favourite id3 tag manager ?
rot13, l33t, pig-latin, backward spelled....
all these are methods used to *crypt* the filename.
under the DMCA it *IS COMPLETLY ILLEGAL* to the ??AA to try to circumvent them.
If they try to add "3m1n3m", "adona-may", or "brit. sraeps" to the list, they're breaking an encryption scheme and that's illegal for them !!!
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Who downloads music on those networks anyway. Seriously, why spend hours on-line, trying to find a proper quality full album plus cover of some chart song that's old and tiresome before the download finishes, while your appliances fill up with spyware and other junk?
Be smart: if you insist on chart crap, a buck/quid/euro easily gets you a legal version of a song with the greatest of ease.
If you actually have a developed taste, a tenner gets you a proper album on any medium you like (including lovely vinyl) of actual bands you'll be able to fancy longer than a day. Delivered to the door, your iPod or available downtown at record stores and gigs where as an extra bonus you get a social life with the purchase because meeting people is more fun than meeting user accounts.
Okay, I'm somewhat cynical, but getting a signed album after a live performance totally beats the crap out of a lifestyle defined by bandwidth.
(Hey.. anyone else here who's 28, parties like 16, but talks like 86?)
i disagree. The sony rootkit was there to actively prevent anyone from pirating and to report those who did. That doesn't seem to me like a measure targeted to reduce the number of pirates, more one with the arrogance of stopping piracy completely. They just don't get it. Their business model is failing and they're trying to prop it up by bending the law to make using the same cd in both the car and the home illegal.
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What would then be the recommended procedure for "distribution via Kazaa" for one of these artists?
1. Make MP3's of own music.
2. Decide to distribute via P2P to avoid record company overhead. OK.
3. Fire up Kazaa, and provide MP3s in shared folder.
4. Wait.
5. Wait.
6. Wait some more.
7. Finally, engage brain and realise that no-one is actually downloading any of your songs because...
Someone please provide a list of artist who are actually using EMule, Kazaa, etc., to distribute their music. And no, I don't mean artists who don't mind the occasional bit of P2P to further what is already a good public image. I mean artists who are relatively unknown and who are using P2P to distribute.
I would guess a list of ten such artists would be hard to find.
Why? Because P2P doesn't let you create an image, that's why. And anyone who thinks image is unimportant for artists -- of any kind, independent or otherwise -- is a banana. Image is, unfortunately, what record companies provide. As well as all the other nasty stuff.
Check out a recent example where Steve Winwood released a track on to P2P. Went down a storm, boosted sales, everything. Yes, because this guy is, to quote the Wired article http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,64128,00.ht
What, pray, is a file on a P2P network publicising? Zilch, zip, nothing. It's just there. If you find it in your search, then you already KNOW what you are searching for. The chances of otherwise coming across it are simply that: chances.
A more sensible solution for indie artists into cheap superdistribution would possibly be something like Digital OnRamp, which (for a fee) distributes to the big music portals.
Otherwise, I can't see it happening. Apart from anything else, any distribution network with zero control of the content of a file is useless for self-promotion.
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Going to file suit and demand that Mrs. Ritchie stop using their long term established brand name "Madonna" because it brings the brand owner into disrepute? Or have they just left it too late? I would really love to see a shootout between the RIAA and the people who gave the word "Propaganda" its modern meaning. Truth is, these "artists" have all stolen other people's words for their names - so how did they acquire rights in them?
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I tend to assume that any good songs Eminem, Madonna, or Kylie Minogue will ever make, I've already downloaded. If I got to Kazaa, etc. its usually for some old infulential-but-cult song which I somehow missed through my own ignorance.
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Is Kazaa still used by anyone? I stopped using these kinds of P2P when I got tired of all the fake files being hosted. Bittorrent is the way forward (for now).
To err is human. To forgive is not company policy.
DeJaVu all over again, re: Napster. The beginning of the end. Where will I do my thieving now?
It's OK to smack ho's, shoot up clubs, strangle your wife, kill your baby, and all that stuff. Just as long as you don't download mp3's, okay kids?
> no, yes, maybe (tagging beta)
Although it still might make an interesting court argument for someone with the means and motivation to actually fight one of their lawsuits. In others words, the fact that such a list, controlled by them, exists, and they fact that they chose to exclude a certain work, might be construed (by the right judge/jury at the right time) as an implicit license to share that work. So, in the best case (from the users' point of view) this could backfire on the RIAA.
they're trying to prop it up by bending the law to make using the same cd in both the car and the home illegal.
How so? There's a big mean dude out by your carport who frisks you every time you might be carrying a CD out from your house to your car??
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To me, the idea of using a filter isn't nearly as troubling as a court forcing a company to change it's software. Yes, flamebait, but the Microsoft deal wasn't anything near as frightening as this decision.
So what, no IE in Windows.
No search function in an application who's core function is based on searching? Very big deal!
What's really scary, is that this sets precedent. Other companies can now refer to this case as precedent to annihilate competition or simply something they don't like.
Based on what has been suggested so far, I propose an "aliases list". Use absurdly commonplace strings to represent specific keyword-blocked artists/albums, and publish a lookup table. For example, "fish" could equate to "Kylie" and "the" could related to her most popular album at the time the lookup is published. Possible problem: all the false hits containing "The fish" when searching. Solution: search by file type and file size.
A little more hard work, but once again, a little thinking flattens the RIAA's spectacular uselessness. I think that they need a new body in charge of their anti-piracy initiative as they're clearly hopeless at it.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
I would think this would be an interesting case for lawyers to debate over. After all if the RIAA are preventing artists from distributing their music by a specific means, that certainly would be actionable.
Time to get a few lawsuits moving in the opposite direction against the RIAA, after all in their bubble they actually think they are speaking on behalf of all recording artists, someone needs to step up and show them through the only means that seem to get through to them that they are missing the boat and actually hindering independant artists.
Well it might not be a physical person, but one day the DRM will do that. Sony have already said they want you to be unable to rip music or transport it anywhere in digital form to make you buy a seperate cd for the car etc. One day the drm will do that. And cracking will just lead to them suing you for phenominal amounts of money...
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I am looking for "freedom" but I cannot find none on KaZaa
But when they do, people won't buy a CD for their car, a CD for home, and a CD for portable players. They will take their money elsewhere.
How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
[Constestant] I can block that tune in ONE search phrase.
[Host] Ok, Block That Tune!!
[Contestant] Asterisk.
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It'd be nice to think they would. If you like, for a brief moment lets imagine you like madonna... (i know, highly unlikely). Anyway, if you like madonna, you want the madonna CD. You can't just go buy a CD from another artist, it won't do, it isn't the same. This is how they will get away with it, sneaky bastards
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Don't they see the Internet isn't top down? When are they going to free themselves from their old fashioned monopolistic American business values? I'm sure natural selection applies here too.
Didn't everybody already move to KazaaLite, K++, or whatever hacked/rewritten client there is out there? Who is still using the original Kazaa client?
And how is the RIAA going to force those clients to include the forbidden search list?
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This can only improve the average quality of pirated music and the sooner these people are forgotten the better.
Finally the RIAA has done something worthwhile. I hope they block Google searches too.
Reduce, reuse, cycle
Will they now go and try to make Google block certain search terms?
Who wants to download a no-talent punk like Eminem anyway??
Maybe one can bypass this, searching for $sys$eminem or $sys$Madonna ?
Limewire sucked and has always sucked.
... how many users have gone that route? How many of them just didn't "get" bittorrent or any of the good and open systems?
It's a good point though that a great many people will always prefer the "locked" client when given a choice of p2p programs. Napster > Morpheus > Kazaa > Limewire
I think this says more about user psychology than software and the future of legit filesharing.
Anytime I need an ISO I open Azureus and head straight off to to Fedora site or whichever one it is, to find the trackers. I expect it will be the same story decades from now, only with some other protocol replacing BT or perhaps (if the ***A reall get their way) something the like of Tor being involved even for us legit opensource people!
But then seriously, I expect the battle to be won for the good side. Trying to control the internet is like trying to eat soup with a fork.
People still use Kazaa? The poor bastards....
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Good karma sticks to me like velcro on a piece of plexiglass.
Move along, citizen.
Anyone ever thought of a hastable implementation? ... ...
Hastable newNames = new Hashtable();
newNames.put("crazyKabalha", "Madona");
newNames.put("slim", "Eminem");
The list can go on and on...I should patent it.
no band could ever becme popular.
You seem to think you have to be known before you are known.
How about this:
1) Record music
2) put it on Kazzaa
3) play in local clubs, develop word of mouth
4) direct people to kazzaa to get your music.
5) Get a large anough following, start distributing through iTunes.
Assuming one would put music on a file share and then just wait is stupid. It's like thinking musicians just buy a guitar and sit in their living room waiting for a record company to call.
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It won't work.
If they do use vague keywords that interfeer with legal distribution, i would be willing to bet that would be grounds for the 'oppressed' artists to counter sue.
The effects if allowed to continue would be almost the same as a monopoly abusing its power, in a twisted sort of way.
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10,000 words list? I can pretty much bet that most of these will be very general i.e. 'Kylie' instead of 'Kylie Minogue', so any artist named Kylie who want to bypass the grabing hands of the record industry and distribute themselves will now have a much harder time.
No. Independent artists can use LimeWire, which now recognizes Creative Commons licenses on shared media. Or she can use eMule or BitTorrent. But then, independent songwriters will still run into the risk of subconsciously copying a copyrighted song.
M@donna
M1nogue
As for Audible Magic fingerprinting, how long before people just start trading encrypted files? Even ROT-13 would defeat AM I'm betting.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
But in all seriousness, I've been using Limewire to download my mp3s for a long time now without needing any other clients. There are a lot of fakes songs out there, but I generally find that the fakes are being hosted on OC type connections. So, I just select songs on cable or lower and generally do fine finding the songs I need. Now, you might argue that it takes you longer to download a song from someone's 56k modem, but it beats downloading that same song over and over again from high-speed connections, only to discover they were fakes.
will search for louise ciccione
or
Britney Jean
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Limewire has already publicly announced that it will become mandatory to have licenced content and unlicenced content will be banned [...] Next time you want to download those fedora ISO images, tough luck.
Umm... isn't half the stuff on the Fedora Core CDs covered by the GNU General Public License or at least GPL compatible, with the rest (except trademarked logos) as free software?
Next time you want to share some music you created yourself, that's unfortunate.
Couldn't I just put my own music under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike License? Or are you talking about accusations of subconscious copying?
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RIAA music is intensely popular among minors. How does one get into "gigs" until age 21 if most "gigs" put on by independent recording artists are in bars?
Record music, put it on Kazzaa, play in local clubs, develop word of mouth
Problem is that a large portion of your target audience isn't allowed into local clubs because they're minors.
In case anyone is interested, here are the judge's orders, copied from the Federal Court of Australia's website:
"1. The existing stay of order 4 of the orders made on 5 September 2005 be dissolved at midnight on 5 December 2005.
2. Order 4 made on 5 September 2005 be further stayed from midnight on 5 December 2005 until further order of the Full Court or a Judge but only so long as there is compliance with the following terms:
(a) by midnight on 5 December 2005 the second respondent is:
(i) to issue a new release of its Kazaa file sharing software ("KMD") which contains a non-optional keyword filter that excludes from search results any results containing any of the 3000 keywords notified by the applicants to the second respondent on 4 November 2005;
(ii) to implement dialogue boxes on the Kazaa website in such a manner as to place maximum pressure on KMD users to obtain the updated release;
(b) the second respondent must, within 48 hours of receiving from the applicants' solicitors an amended list of up to 3000 keywords, create a further new release of KMD substituting a non-optional filter of the amended list of 3000 keywords and thereafter place maximum pressure on KMD users to obtain the updated release;
(c) the second respondent must supply to any person who becomes a KMD user after 5 December 2005 a version of KMD which includes a keyword filter embodying the then current 3000 keywords specified by the applicants;
(d) the applicants shall not be at liberty to provide an amended list of keywords within 14 days of providing the previous list.
3. The costs of the hearing on 24 November 2005 be costs in the appeals."
This is moronic. NOTHING stops people from using random and generic code words when they are ripping or entering their search terms. There used to be a Napster related site that recorded and advised on alternate names to search for. Instead of listing madonna songs, use the word "tramp" instead. Instead of Eminem, use the word "poser". How difficult is it to walk all over this decision?! They spend all that money to fight this in court and the remedy is something a 6 year old could work around.
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This means that the RIAA can make a new list of stopwords every 2 weeks, and Sharman will have 48 hours to implement it.
The RIAA is going to send Sharma a new list as often as they're allowed, and simply swamp them from doing any meaningful work since they'll spend all of their time complying with this.
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In fact, I'm honestly hoping that the RIAA comes up with a way to stop file-sharing. Then, when sales of CDs continue to suck balls, they have nothing to blame but themselves.
However, as long as they have the spectre of evil movie pirates, they have a lever to press for more evil, rights-perverting legislation and hardware DRM. If that goes away, their fulcrum disappears and they lose thier power over congress/parliament/etc to lobby for more control. The one thing those bastards want more than profit is power - Suing joe-ordinary for file sharing is trying to squeeze blood from a turnip in terms of money. But the intimidation factor!
How strange that the thing the RIAA hates so much is empowering them at the same time it destroys them.
Dosen't this remind anyone of Napster? The exact same thing happened... people just changed the song names to include an extra space.
The RIAA Wasn't happy with this, so they decided to go to "Filter In..." and that just didn't work, and then Napster died.
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eminem- don't like madonna- don't like kylie who? :) ok ok I heard of kylie minogue but only know of one song she sings and I didn't think it was that great anyways.
Yes we all know already the evil intentions of riaa and some of these "artists" who I guess don't have enough millions of dollars already but so long it's artists I don't care for on a long abandoned channel, I'm not going to complain.
I wonder what would happen if someone created an original song that legitimately could match something in the filter list without being infringing, distributed it on Kazaa legally (since they're the copyright owner), and then sued the record labels for illegal interference with a copyright owner's rights? After all the only things the labels can legitimately ask to be filtered are things they own copyright on, and by filtering anything matching that list they're claiming to own anything which matches the list. What's the penalties for falsely claiming ownership of someone else's copyrighted work again?
Technologies rarely develop backwards, they usually improve, so you are correct here.
I expect P2P 2.0 to be even more network-transparent than existing clients like Shareaza. That could lead to separation of networking code into separate plugin dlls, so that you can use your favourite interface with all systems and you could even add P2P functionality to other software, e.g. a P2P plugin for Winamp.
It would also have some form of P2P library (link portal) creation. You already can create "collections" of links in some clients, but this idea could be developed much further. If someone can make a large distributed database of media using some unique identifiers like AISN, IDSN or something better that finding what you want can be made even easier.
Ideally this should be as simple as:
1) In Winamp: click "listen to random song that I would like".
2) Download automatically (stream?), listen, find that you like it.
3) Download all songs from this album (or by this artist).
4) Send a payment of the amount you choose directly to the artist.
Or
1) Click on a "media" link on the Web (a media link should neither link to a specific location like a http:/// link, nor to a specific file, like ed2k://, but to a particular work, e.g. episode 3 of the film with AISN "XXXX", possibly even including the time/page range inside the work).
2) Have the P2P module automatically find trusted files, pick the optimal one automatically or ask you (do you want lower-quality version that you can immediately stream or a full-quality version with Dolby TrueSpace sound?).
3) Have the media downloaded and displayed automatically.
And to ensure the quality of the experience the network management should be moved to the next stage. Traffic management, redundancy, geographical distribution etc. should be managed in a smarter way.
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What amazes me the most, is the fact that people still use Kazaa.
The last time I checked Kazaa out, it was a couple of years ago, shortly after Morpheus was kicked off their network and moved into Gnutella.
I didn't do much search for music (but it was a hell of a place to find porn/tv episodes) but I remember that there was a lot of corrupted files over there (later found out that it was due to infiltration by the RIAA).
Surely there are better places to look for music, nowadays. How does Kazaa survives? One would think that Gnutella would be a better choice, since they are not centralized. Plus, Kazaa was always riddled with spyware (and, irony of ironies, went after K-Lite for infringement). Is the situation any better today? Is Bunzy Buddy still alive?
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Of course, with every act of attrition the P2P networks improve. Kazaa is already pretty much useless, this will just push more people toward the superior technology.
yeah, the argument of the mi is failing. look at arctic monkeys. you could download 'i bet that you look good on teh dancefloor' for free (as in beer), and even though they made number one in the uk (just remember what 'beeing #1' means. something about sales, yeah). all this busting in p2p and stuff, it's just another revenue stream for them, nothing more.
On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. It is a silly place.
So KAZAA and the other P2P networks will now be flooded with the same nonsense as we see in the daily spam received in our e-mails
Instead of Via-gra or Peenis, we will now see Maadoona and Kiiileee Meenooge
They just don't get it do they ?
Let's not overlook certain religious considerations. Madonna Circone was named after the Virgin Mary, who is the central religious symbol of the Christian faith in general, and the Catholic Church in particular. The word 'madonna' is latin-based for 'my lady', and refers to the young woman who, in Christian belief, gave birth to the human form of God about 2000 years ago. In Christian belief, this divine conception of God in a human form was achieved without the natural implantation of sperm into her womb, hence the veneration of the mother of God as a virgin in this faith. The church has always used and continues to use this story to discourage young women of the faith from taking multiple sexual partners and instead focusing her sexuality on a single male husband, thus encouraging family stability as all religions tend to do.
The fact that this pop singer has used her religiously-oriented birth name to obsessively and ironically promote an image of excessive sexual promiscuity in her music and media image has been an essential element of her career success, especially in countries of primarily Catholic populations. Now her 'owners' of her 'product' wish to restrict access to her recordings and media image by making it illegal for her fans to access her image and recordings without the payment of a sum of their choosing for this privledge.
However there is the question of whether the RIAA or their funding sources have or even should have the right to actually restrict or control any media access to the name of the Madonna. By what right does this organization have to believe that they can restrict public access to the name of the mother of God? The RIAA company who 'owns' the 'right' to the name 'Madonna' should reconsider this action, lest they run the risk of pissing off one billion Christians by claiming that they have some bizarre legal right to the name of the Madonna regardless of the form or circumstances that they have come to assume that they have this 'right'.
Copyright Law of the United States of America
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and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code
Chapter 10
Digital Audio Recording Devices and Media
1008. Prohibition on certain infringement actions
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical recordings.
1001. Definitions
(4)(A) A "digital audio recording medium" is any material object in a form commonly distributed for use by individuals, that is primarily marketed or most commonly used by consumers for the purpose of making digital audio copied recordings by use of a digital audio recording device.
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap10.html#10
Not that I'm a fan of intellectual property in general, but this seems like a rational response. Defenders of P2P networks say that the technology shouldn't be punished because it COULD be used illegally. I agree - and this way people can't search for copyrighted terms.
Jeremy
The quality of music available on Kazaa improved dramatically.
:-)
They tried this on the original Napster. Blocking "Madonna", "Metallica", "Godsmack - Voodoo" etc...
Didn't last long, people started sharing as "Madona", "Metalica" and "Goodsmack - Snake bite".
Please, banned words from a list?!? How 1990s...
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Your argument is that independent works will be locked out of LimeWire's DRM system. What prevents their authors from applying DRM, especially given that LimeWire's features page specifically mentions Creative Commons support? From the page:
And according to the change log, this has been in the program since 4.3.0.
Web page censoring is voluntary
O rly?
After all, 3 buttons aligned in series down the neck of those "guitar" machines is not that different from a 6-string, 24-fret board.
Guitar Freaks (Konami/Bemani) is 3 buttons in a row. Guitar Hero (RedOctane/Harmonix) is 5 buttons in a row, which prepares the player for at least one dimension of the hand movement in real guitar playing.
And sheet music reads just like rows and rows of blinking lights.
KeyboardMania uses player piano roll format for score display.
I never tried to say say that music games are a substitute for learning to play an instrument, but they do introduce some of the basic concepts of music performance to casual players.
Any old Audiogalaxy users remember when "Metall1c4" songs started showing up?
If spam has taught us anything, it's that keyword blockages do absolutely nothing.
"Live as if you'll die tomorrow." Ridiculous. You could die later today.
Time to search for MNM, Madonnah and Kiley Minnowg
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Such a filter won't affect them at all.
Since I make effort to not get exposed to new material to avoid temptation of becoming an RIAA-label customer again, I wouldn't notice if Eminem disappears off the face of the Earth. Since I started avoiding modern RIAA material I've rediscovered classic rock stations, talk radio, classical, oldies stations, Jazz stations, and even Christian talk radio (yes, I listen to both uber-liberal NPR and to Christian stations. Sue me.)
So, unless No Doubt or Pink Floyd or Weird Al comes out with new work (the only way I'd know is because I check their web sites regularly - and that's how I found No Doubt ended their "hiatus" (e.g., reformed the band) and is going back to the studio in January), I won't be buying new material from a big label.
Oh, and when I do discover a so-called "independent" artist, yes, I do check the record label family tree ( http://www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/whoownswho.html ) to find out if the label is really independent or not.
BTW a friend of mine recently got suckered in by a so-called "independent" label. He released some old material that was previously unreleased and rather than going through Rhino (who f'd him out of an estimated $2.5mil in royalties) he went through SunDazed - only to find after he signed that it is owned by Capitol. He was PISSED but at least he's friendly with the "owner" (e.g., General Manager, pawn of Capitol) of SunDazed. Because of this "indie" scamming that is going on that even he got suckered into (after getting burnt twice by two big labels, he's definitely not naive), he's starting the process of forming a true independent label (it's not easy, he's hoping his name still carries some weight) to help his son's band not get f'd over and being a slave of one of the big six labels. One thing they're going to encourage is online distribution - the tracks will likely be 64kbps for the full free tracks (NO DRM), 128 or 192kbps 30-second clip samples of highlights, some free live shows (video and audio).
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> keep in mind are talking about permitting theft because of fair use.
No, we are talking about trying to KEEP our fair use rights, while recognizing that copyright infringement is an unfortunate side effect of that.