Write code - say 'I'll do it' and do it (maybe you'll fail or its crap, either way you have experience).
Programming for a business w/clients? Write something from start to finish (user interface, config, docs, etc.) You don't have to make it big, but get used to doing the un-fun stuff (i.s. not hard coding company names, sane installation, etc.)
Have an interest? (i.e. asset/inventory control) Play around with making programs using your ideas (library, small store checkout, etc.) Showing employers that you've been working on ideas along your preferred line will help your career.
I usually tell women I know, 'we men have the emotional capacity of a brick.' It is there, but it sure takes a ling time for it to soak in. Throughout my life I can sometimes look back months or years past and finally have a clue about the meaning of some situation, I was totally lost during the moment though.
As a long time Mac user I have seen witnessed long second rate standing with MS products on Apple Hardware, backed by good (for marketing) intentions but never coming of to well.
I guess this is turnaround, Apple Software on Windows hardware....though this wasn't the beginning, you can look to Quicktime, ClarisWorks/AppleWorks for that, but that one was done better.
If you've been reading slashdot you should have learned a popular consensus that a college certificate does not really mean anything to many of the tech savvy community. There are way too many certificate carrying bozos out there to make a particular certificate mean that much.
Now producing popular GPL projects probably will get you a LONG way in the experience field in employment. So regardless of what college you can afford, do put some notoriety on your resume.
Also in regards to projects and tuition grants, you HAVING produced some real code before asking for scholarship assistance would merit a lot more interests than saying "i might release some..."
Then as noted, the difference would be $10K to $15K Sounds like a good part time JOB of burgeoning technical skills to me would cover the difference and also be a bonus to your resume after graduation.
What part of Syntax Error did you not understand in your programming work?
While it is nice to understand design patterns without knowing the scope of the language syntax to implement them I don't think those alone will do you much good except for posting comments on Slashdot.
As for programmers extending beyond their boundaries, I think that is really a personal choice of the programmer, what I may want to explore may not be what Joe Codemonkey in Indiana has a passing interest in learning. My last language choice was based mainly on my job needs (and it is a very good choice for my career from my view on the other side), if it was a personal choice, it would have been another language - which might not have been a bad choice either, but I would be less inclined to effectively utilize it in my current career.
Looking through my 404 logs I get a bunch of kiddie auto scripts either looking to BB spam or hack in, here are some items which I figure are popular entry routes:
///include/print_category.php /forum/index.php /bbs/include/print_category.php /functions.php /board/index.php /forums/index.php /phpbb2/index.php //calendar//tools/send_reminders.php //skin/zero_vote/error.php (lots of these) /skin/zero_vote/ask_password.php //support/mailling/maillist/inc/initdb.php (a few of these) /function.main /comments.php /MSOffice/cltreq.asp /cgi-bin/bbs/read.cgi //include/write.php
Heck, I do all that too, AND not only that, I create the content on the site I also keep it off-line (through local host, don't want to open up those vulnerable external connections) and am the only visitor in order to ensure that the user base is completely trustworthy.
The necessity to change every three hours the three - 127 character passwords with mandatory 'No more than two letters/numbers/symbols together' rule does make memorization a tad challenging.
I bet during training they are told to look for things that may be designed to "look like" common things, and a laptop without ports would probably gain the notice of less tech savvy screeners.
I am sure those uber tiny laptops get as much attention as well.
I can tell we are conversing with the elite of computer wisdom here. AC, if you read your replies, what sort of experience do you have in um.. education, or the job market?
Every time I read the title I think of Radar Men From the Moon. They should have Leonard Nimoy do a presentation on it as he was on one of the aliens in at least one of Commander Cody's serials (but not sure if it was Radar Men from what I could find...)
Just like they dropped Office right? Oh wait, at least one product is still there.
They dropped Outlook form it years back and pout in Entourage which only connects to Exchange through the web channel (not totally compatible) and now they dropped VBA for applications (hence the 'use AppleScript' quote in my earlier post, which is what they recommend, I wonder if Office for Windows even supports Applescript?), so much for support/compatibility with the Windows world, eh?
Your an idiot. With the exception of IE, Microsoft supported Mac for those products when Macs had close to 10% of the business/education market and dropped them when they dropped below 4%. Gee what a surprise, dropping support for a niche market.
Thank you. Actually, that is my point exactly, MS sees non-windows platforms as a "idiots" or a "niche market," and has and will mess with everyone in in them to bolster their profits. Frankly I gave up on MS as a company that will 'support' anyone but frequently paying customers.
Now that Mac use is growing you will see more MS support for OS X with the exception of IE because the browser market is mature enough that there is no reason to make IE for OS X. It would be a waste of money.
But there is reason for MS to keep their tools/web services to be more IE friendly.
And did you happen to notice that Silverlight was in production when they stopped making Windows Media Player for Mac? Why? I don't know maybe because Silverlight supports all the WM codecs? So they fully support they codecs on OS X.
from the Silverlight FAQ => Will Silverlight support all the codecs Windows Media Player supports?
> Since Silverlight is a lightweight cross-platform technology, it only carries the most common codices that are needed for Web playback. However, we are gathering information from customers about the needed codices and can update Silverlight when necessary.
So to answer your response it probably still does not support the DRM codecs that are missing from the alternative Windows player for the Mac.
If most people would spend 5 minutes finding out what Silverlight is, they would find that it is a lot more than MS's answer to flash.
Well I've spent over 20 years dealing with Microsoft solutions, limited compatibility, and eventual cleanup after they eventually drop they ball. I didn't need to do five minutes of research on my original post. I saw all that stuff come and go (much of which we bought too), and I think its just another eventual dead-end MS technology which will lead to MS offering another dead-end replacement further along.
Open standards have an excellent chance of breaking that, and I see that as the real long term solution.
Thanks for your opinion, uh... Mr. Anonymous Coward.
Except the Linux version isn't maintained by Microsoft.
Understood. So it has no MS support then, and under the IP/FUD shadow of MS as well, so Linux/Silverlight doesn't make a great platform to rely on eh?
AND even if it was, the web technologies development team at Microsoft is quite different from most of their other teams...
Heard the same about the FoxPro guys, also the Mac Office Team both of which had ther day for a while but are no more. It may be that way now for Mac Silverlight, but those guys are the proverbial 'nails sticking out' at Windows-first Microsoft, they'll be hammered back into the woodwork eventually.
(Many of them rave about Firefox and MAC OSX on their blogs for one...)
Blogs don't make executive decisions. Balmer does.
Obviously you are new to using MS products in a mixed environment:
- Microsoft provides a version of X for Mac and/or other platform (case in point MS made for Macs: MS Project, Outlook, FoxPRO, Windows Media Player, Office VBA, Internet Explorer, Virtual PC, Frontpage, Fight Simulator, etc).
- Updates usually go to windows versions first, but due to "technical problems" (or something similar) X version does not always receive all of the updates.
- Second generation of product comes out employing some more Windows-only exclusive technology - the version for platform X is kind of crappier and not compatible (no explanation just some short "use Applescript instead" for the missing features).
- MS announces that the X version of the software will be discontinued due to lack of 'customer interest' (more so on MSs part)
- MS touts how great they are at supporting multiple platforms on their next product... (repeat)
I have a friend who uses it pretty regular probably has a 1000 songs he listens to (DRMed - has to check in regularly to keep them alive).
I wonder how it will transfer? Will it transfer (DRM compatibility)? Will Real support his devices? And what songs will he loose access to due to the transfer (from RI contract differences between Cos.)
If they do it right he probably will keep going with them, if they mess it up he probably will leave along with others.
Sounds like they are definitely going for a version 3 of the language. They have identified what they need to fix and add to version 2 and are going to implement it in version 3. I have messed with python so I don't have a heavy code investment in it yet but either way - if it makes Python better than it is, I think its worth considering.
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Write code - say 'I'll do it' and do it (maybe you'll fail or its crap, either way you have experience).
Programming for a business w/clients? Write something from start to finish (user interface, config, docs, etc.) You don't have to make it big, but get used to doing the un-fun stuff (i.s. not hard coding company names, sane installation, etc.)
Have an interest? (i.e. asset/inventory control) Play around with making programs using your ideas (library, small store checkout, etc.) Showing employers that you've been working on ideas along your preferred line will help your career.
I usually tell women I know, 'we men have the emotional capacity of a brick.' It is there, but it sure takes a ling time for it to soak in. Throughout my life I can sometimes look back months or years past and finally have a clue about the meaning of some situation, I was totally lost during the moment though.
As a long time Mac user I have seen witnessed long second rate standing with MS products on Apple Hardware, backed by good (for marketing) intentions but never coming of to well.
...though this wasn't the beginning, you can look to Quicktime, ClarisWorks/AppleWorks for that, but that one was done better.
I guess this is turnaround, Apple Software on Windows hardware.
$unixdatenum = easter_date($year);
Dude, Amigas have Guru Meditation Errors, it's "Temple of the Amiga" or monastery.
Are you keeping up with the Commodore? Cause Commodore is keeping up with you!
If you've been reading slashdot you should have learned a popular consensus that a college certificate does not really mean anything to many of the tech savvy community. There are way too many certificate carrying bozos out there to make a particular certificate mean that much.
Now producing popular GPL projects probably will get you a LONG way in the experience field in employment. So regardless of what college you can afford, do put some notoriety on your resume.
Also in regards to projects and tuition grants, you HAVING produced some real code before asking for scholarship assistance would merit a lot more interests than saying "i might release some..."
Then as noted, the difference would be $10K to $15K Sounds like a good part time JOB of burgeoning technical skills to me would cover the difference and also be a bonus to your resume after graduation.
What part of Syntax Error did you not understand in your programming work?
While it is nice to understand design patterns without knowing the scope of the language syntax to implement them I don't think those alone will do you much good except for posting comments on Slashdot.
As for programmers extending beyond their boundaries, I think that is really a personal choice of the programmer, what I may want to explore may not be what Joe Codemonkey in Indiana has a passing interest in learning. My last language choice was based mainly on my job needs (and it is a very good choice for my career from my view on the other side), if it was a personal choice, it would have been another language - which might not have been a bad choice either, but I would be less inclined to effectively utilize it in my current career.
Looking through my 404 logs I get a bunch of kiddie auto scripts either looking to BB spam or hack in, here are some items which I figure are popular entry routes:
///include/print_category.php
/forum/index.php
/bbs/include/print_category.php
/functions.php
/board/index.php
/forums/index.php
/phpbb2/index.php
//calendar//tools/send_reminders.php
//skin/zero_vote/error.php (lots of these)
/skin/zero_vote/ask_password.php
//support/mailling/maillist/inc/initdb.php (a few of these)
/function.main
/comments.php
/MSOffice/cltreq.asp
/cgi-bin/bbs/read.cgi
//include/write.php
Heck, I do all that too, AND not only that, I create the content on the site I also keep it off-line (through local host, don't want to open up those vulnerable external connections) and am the only visitor in order to ensure that the user base is completely trustworthy.
The necessity to change every three hours the three - 127 character passwords with mandatory 'No more than two letters/numbers/symbols together' rule does make memorization a tad challenging.
That was what I was thinking, many Linux people have many better things to do then to play games all the the time.
The only game that gets my time lately is BZFlag as I can pop in and play for a few minutes between programming.
I bet during training they are told to look for things that may be designed to "look like" common things, and a laptop without ports would probably gain the notice of less tech savvy screeners.
I am sure those uber tiny laptops get as much attention as well.
I... Am... utterly amazed - by your brilliance!
I can tell we are conversing with the elite of computer wisdom here. AC, if you read your replies, what sort of experience do you have in um.. education, or the job market?
IE 89 is being touted one way or another like a current released product, which it isn't. Seems like vaporware to me.
Regardless of its reported capabilities - it's still vapor-ware and what version is currently available mainly follows MS standards.
Though I will say with that news; I guess you can develop sites without having to consider any of the IE quirks anymore, right?
Well, I guess I'm not the old fogey I thought I was (at 42) :-)
Every time I read the title I think of Radar Men From the Moon. They should have Leonard Nimoy do a presentation on it as he was on one of the aliens in at least one of Commander Cody's serials (but not sure if it was Radar Men from what I could find...)
Just like they dropped Office right? Oh wait, at least one product is still there.
They dropped Outlook form it years back and pout in Entourage which only connects to Exchange through the web channel (not totally compatible) and now they dropped VBA for applications (hence the 'use AppleScript' quote in my earlier post, which is what they recommend, I wonder if Office for Windows even supports Applescript?), so much for support/compatibility with the Windows world, eh?
Your an idiot. With the exception of IE, Microsoft supported Mac for those products when Macs had close to 10% of the business/education market and dropped them when they dropped below 4%. Gee what a surprise, dropping support for a niche market.
Thank you. Actually, that is my point exactly, MS sees non-windows platforms as a "idiots" or a "niche market," and has and will mess with everyone in in them to bolster their profits. Frankly I gave up on MS as a company that will 'support' anyone but frequently paying customers.
Now that Mac use is growing you will see more MS support for OS X with the exception of IE because the browser market is mature enough that there is no reason to make IE for OS X. It would be a waste of money.
But there is reason for MS to keep their tools/web services to be more IE friendly.
And did you happen to notice that Silverlight was in production when they stopped making Windows Media Player for Mac? Why? I don't know maybe because Silverlight supports all the WM codecs? So they fully support they codecs on OS X.
from the Silverlight FAQ => Will Silverlight support all the codecs Windows Media Player supports?
> Since Silverlight is a lightweight cross-platform technology, it only carries the most common codices that are needed for Web playback. However, we are gathering information from customers about the needed codices and can update Silverlight when necessary.
So to answer your response it probably still does not support the DRM codecs that are missing from the alternative Windows player for the Mac.
If most people would spend 5 minutes finding out what Silverlight is, they would find that it is a lot more than MS's answer to flash.
Well I've spent over 20 years dealing with Microsoft solutions, limited compatibility, and eventual cleanup after they eventually drop they ball. I didn't need to do five minutes of research on my original post. I saw all that stuff come and go (much of which we bought too), and I think its just another eventual dead-end MS technology which will lead to MS offering another dead-end replacement further along.
Open standards have an excellent chance of breaking that, and I see that as the real long term solution.
Thanks for your opinion, uh... Mr. Anonymous Coward.
Except the Linux version isn't maintained by Microsoft.
Understood. So it has no MS support then, and under the IP/FUD shadow of MS as well, so Linux/Silverlight doesn't make a great platform to rely on eh?
AND even if it was, the web technologies development team at Microsoft is quite different from most of their other teams...
Heard the same about the FoxPro guys, also the Mac Office Team both of which had ther day for a while but are no more. It may be that way now for Mac Silverlight, but those guys are the proverbial 'nails sticking out' at Windows-first Microsoft, they'll be hammered back into the woodwork eventually.
(Many of them rave about Firefox and MAC OSX on their blogs for one...)
Blogs don't make executive decisions. Balmer does.
Obviously you are new to using MS products in a mixed environment:
- Microsoft provides a version of X for Mac and/or other platform (case in point MS made for Macs: MS Project, Outlook, FoxPRO, Windows Media Player, Office VBA, Internet Explorer, Virtual PC, Frontpage, Fight Simulator, etc).
- Updates usually go to windows versions first, but due to "technical problems" (or something similar) X version does not always receive all of the updates.
- Second generation of product comes out employing some more Windows-only exclusive technology - the version for platform X is kind of crappier and not compatible (no explanation just some short "use Applescript instead" for the missing features).
- MS announces that the X version of the software will be discontinued due to lack of 'customer interest' (more so on MSs part)
- MS touts how great they are at supporting multiple platforms on their next product... (repeat)
"I'll patent a technology employing 'computers' to 'scan' checks, thereby holding the whole banking industry hostage... for ONE MILLION DOLLARS!"
Number 2, "uh, one Billion, sir."
"Thanks, Number Two.... ahem... for ONE BILLION DOLLARS!"
I recently received an email spam with a PDF (not the file.xxx.exe I normally see in such emails), I figured that was one of the exploit files.
Some vague "Your Account" message from "Bank Trust" from some a 3rd party email with the Manual_Invoice.pdf attachment. 134k
I like this one more:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/01/08/video-of-yapmm-yet-a.html
I have a friend who uses it pretty regular probably has a 1000 songs he listens to (DRMed - has to check in regularly to keep them alive).
I wonder how it will transfer?
Will it transfer (DRM compatibility)?
Will Real support his devices?
And what songs will he loose access to due to the transfer (from RI contract differences between Cos.)
If they do it right he probably will keep going with them, if they mess it up he probably will leave along with others.
Sure you can see from the map they pulled the cables way too tight, but given the line width those things must be like 2 to 5 miles wide. :-)
Seriously as previous slashdot postings, one or two accidents may be a coincidence but three within a few weeks sounds more like a pattern.
Sounds like they are definitely going for a version 3 of the language. They have identified what they need to fix and add to version 2 and are going to implement it in version 3. I have messed with python so I don't have a heavy code investment in it yet but either way - if it makes Python better than it is, I think its worth considering.