I think you've let your paranoia run wild. I know what governments are capable of but I think you've let your fear get the best of your brain. Put the tin-foil hat away and calm yourself. The fact that the NSA likes to listen in on phone calls is a minor problem. If there were truly a problem then you could not come here to this public forum and bitch about the NSA. It's all a matter of perspective and you need to develop one. Just because I don't sweat a bunch of feather merchants listening in on my communications hardly means I don't believe in the Constitution. That's like me telling an anti-gun advocate he doesn't believe in freedom (and we've heard the NRA with that mantra many a time.) It's not a perfect world but that doesn't mean we are living in tyranny. Get a grip.
Notice the article is from the NY Times and quotes NBC news, two ultra liberal media outlets that normally slobber all over France's ass and any other socialist country. I mention this just to avert the all so common "Faux News" diatribe.
You need to watch less TV. I think you're the one who's frightened, quaking in your slippers over someone listening to your phone calls. If they're listening to mine they are in danger of dying from boredom. "Honey, I need you to stop and get a loaf of bread and some Rice Krispies at the store on your way home." "Okay." That oughta get Seal Team Six in motion I tell ya! To be fair I think they way the NSA is handling this is wrong and that Congress should take these guys in hand and straighten them out. But you guys lack any sense of proportion and are freaking out over a minor issue.
I'm not totally happy about the way it's being done. Congress is failing to exercise proper oversight. All told though I'm far less worried about eavesdropping than a lot of other things going on in the world. I'll let you and the ACLU and EFF be upset for me.
I'm giving up no freedom at all. I can go anywhere and do almost anything I want to. I can speak my mind freely. I can even have a private conversation....just not over a damn cell phone. But let me tell you about communications in the US. There are people in the system that can listen to you at any time. I once worked comm in the US Air Force and lowly techs working in a control facility have the capability to listen to private conversations. Not the dreaded NSA but just some bored E-3 airman listening for kicks. I know, I've seen it. I know if it happens there it most likely happens all through communications systems worldwide. If you're up to something you don't want anyone to know about don't do it over the phone or the internet.
Are you really that afraid of someone overhearing your conversations? I mean, I understand you don't like it much. But what are you so afraid of the NSA for? They're looking for people who are a threat to the US government. If it ever gets to the point that the average Joe has to worry about some spy agency with a three letter acronym then things are far worse than worrying over eavesdropping.
I don't like people eavesdropping on me all that much but I much prefer it to someone blowing me and my family up. In all reality I don't really feel all that threatened by some civil servant listening to me talk dirty to my wife.
Yes, the tired old argument about how the poor terrorists are only defending themselves by slaughtering anyone they can regardless if they have anything to do with anything. These assholes need to be killed and idiots like you that support them need to be locked away.
It is what it is. It's not the spying that harms anyone, it's only if they abuse the data they intercept. I want them looking but I want someone to have oversight so that they don't use the information for the wrong purposes.
I want them looking at everyone because you never know where the threat is coming from. They should, however, be accountable to congress. To let them go rogue on their own agenda is bad.
I really don't get all the outrage. They are the NSA. They spy. That's what they're supposed to do. It's what they are about. If they don't spy then you might as well close the doors and send them all home. On the other hand, they are supposed to answer to congress. If they are doing anything that congress doesn't want them to do it's up to congress to handle that. If they are operating as congress wants them to do any outrage should be directed to congress. Snowden is not a whistleblowing hero he's a dirty traitor and they should shoot him ASAP.
People who want to blow things up need to be hunted down. They and others with bad intent should be abused. The problem is their idea of "bad" has become so broad as to encompass a lot of people who are no threat to anyone but themselves. You might be just a little paranoid though.
You naive righty vs lefty folks are so blind. The puppet may change but the hands holding the strings are the same. They use issues like abortion and gay rights to divide the population so we can be controlled. United we are dangerous bit it is so easy to get us bickering with each other so we ignore the real threat.
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cute...not a good analogy but cute.
I think you've let your paranoia run wild. I know what governments are capable of but I think you've let your fear get the best of your brain. Put the tin-foil hat away and calm yourself. The fact that the NSA likes to listen in on phone calls is a minor problem. If there were truly a problem then you could not come here to this public forum and bitch about the NSA. It's all a matter of perspective and you need to develop one. Just because I don't sweat a bunch of feather merchants listening in on my communications hardly means I don't believe in the Constitution. That's like me telling an anti-gun advocate he doesn't believe in freedom (and we've heard the NRA with that mantra many a time.) It's not a perfect world but that doesn't mean we are living in tyranny. Get a grip.
There are no perfect angels in this world. That's why we have the NSA.
France?
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/14/news/14iht-spy_.html?pagewanted=1
Notice the article is from the NY Times and quotes NBC news, two ultra liberal media outlets that normally slobber all over France's ass and any other socialist country. I mention this just to avert the all so common "Faux News" diatribe.
It's a matter of capability. They spy to the level they can manage. Lacking global corporations like the US has they make do with what they have.
You need to watch less TV. I think you're the one who's frightened, quaking in your slippers over someone listening to your phone calls. If they're listening to mine they are in danger of dying from boredom. "Honey, I need you to stop and get a loaf of bread and some Rice Krispies at the store on your way home." "Okay." That oughta get Seal Team Six in motion I tell ya! To be fair I think they way the NSA is handling this is wrong and that Congress should take these guys in hand and straighten them out. But you guys lack any sense of proportion and are freaking out over a minor issue.
I'm not totally happy about the way it's being done. Congress is failing to exercise proper oversight. All told though I'm far less worried about eavesdropping than a lot of other things going on in the world. I'll let you and the ACLU and EFF be upset for me.
I'm giving up no freedom at all. I can go anywhere and do almost anything I want to. I can speak my mind freely. I can even have a private conversation....just not over a damn cell phone. But let me tell you about communications in the US. There are people in the system that can listen to you at any time. I once worked comm in the US Air Force and lowly techs working in a control facility have the capability to listen to private conversations. Not the dreaded NSA but just some bored E-3 airman listening for kicks. I know, I've seen it. I know if it happens there it most likely happens all through communications systems worldwide. If you're up to something you don't want anyone to know about don't do it over the phone or the internet.
Are you really that afraid of someone overhearing your conversations? I mean, I understand you don't like it much. But what are you so afraid of the NSA for? They're looking for people who are a threat to the US government. If it ever gets to the point that the average Joe has to worry about some spy agency with a three letter acronym then things are far worse than worrying over eavesdropping.
I don't like people eavesdropping on me all that much but I much prefer it to someone blowing me and my family up. In all reality I don't really feel all that threatened by some civil servant listening to me talk dirty to my wife.
Yes, the tired old argument about how the poor terrorists are only defending themselves by slaughtering anyone they can regardless if they have anything to do with anything. These assholes need to be killed and idiots like you that support them need to be locked away.
It is what it is. It's not the spying that harms anyone, it's only if they abuse the data they intercept. I want them looking but I want someone to have oversight so that they don't use the information for the wrong purposes.
In a world where all is love and peace, maybe. In the world we live in? Hell NO!
I want them looking at everyone because you never know where the threat is coming from. They should, however, be accountable to congress. To let them go rogue on their own agenda is bad.
I really don't get all the outrage. They are the NSA. They spy. That's what they're supposed to do. It's what they are about. If they don't spy then you might as well close the doors and send them all home. On the other hand, they are supposed to answer to congress. If they are doing anything that congress doesn't want them to do it's up to congress to handle that. If they are operating as congress wants them to do any outrage should be directed to congress. Snowden is not a whistleblowing hero he's a dirty traitor and they should shoot him ASAP.
Win 7 isn't too bad but if I had to choose between Vista and MS-DOS..........
Two words.......anger management.
Thanks for the link. That's just what I needed.
It's just a matter of facing the reality of public education in the US.
People who want to blow things up need to be hunted down. They and others with bad intent should be abused. The problem is their idea of "bad" has become so broad as to encompass a lot of people who are no threat to anyone but themselves. You might be just a little paranoid though.
Ah! A fellow isolationist. I with you brother, that makes two of us.
Not only that, I expect Tor users get special targeting. It's most likely considered probable cause for a warrant to bug your house.
Really? It's not like the US and UK export all that many products. Boycotts are almost always a waste of time.
You naive righty vs lefty folks are so blind. The puppet may change but the hands holding the strings are the same. They use issues like abortion and gay rights to divide the population so we can be controlled. United we are dangerous bit it is so easy to get us bickering with each other so we ignore the real threat.
There wont be any soda. Not that you could afford it if there was.