not this device maybe but it could be done with a speaker system... but why would you silence an explostion.... say for a sabotauge type thing... why would you use something like that anyway explosives are dangerous and expensive and non reusable why not well blah....
hmm all you would have to do is make inverse wave forms..... its not difficult.... the problem is doing it at a range of completeness either that hmm there would be a couple ways of going about it I think
noise causing fatigue???... I can see it being used for massage... the vibration of woofer... yummy have you ever stood infront of a really big speaker kicking out bass and lots of it... feeling is so euphoric... if you don't like the noise just put some earplugs in.... it wonderfull. Of course since sound waves are vibration I can see that they could not only be used as a fatigue device but as a instrament to build muscle mass.... hmmm... it feels really nice though.. maybe too nice but as far a fatiuge hmmm thats like saying gravity causes fatigue... oh never mind so in some minute way since more weight would be acting upon your body with forces in motion towards you I could see it that way.. anyway everything you expereince sound wise causes a psychological effect which in turn will cause the brain to have a responding physical effect so even indirectly sound could cause fatigue at the same time it could do just the oposit I know happy hard core usually gives me energy aswell as good house or techno while trance in a non party enviroment especial of the melodic type much like clasical will relax me and make me at peace.. and almost in a trance...hmm it would inderectly since sound waves are vibration in atmosphere if sound waves are heard that means sound waves are hitting you.... damn bastard how rude!!! dont mind me I think I'm getting a sense of &&&&&& again...
so why don't they use a display on the seat infront for captioning? might be expensive putting a little screen or whatever but I would solve the issue.. or even a pop up screen one that can be pivoted above the seat.... the theatre would have to be planned for this with levels though.. the new theatres like the ones in kw like the galaxy and the silvercity are big enough I would think.. also optional seating or sections could reduce cost.. just a first thought.. you could also use a light wave encoder with encoder glases... but I don't know if people would want to use the glasses... might be costly aswell... you could always have the technology integrated for equality and equal opertunities etc.. while having the glasses sold as a product seperately or have deaf orginaztions fund some type of thing with government subsidy or something... there are lots of solutions. the cheap solution would be ear canal surgery with non organic system although I'm not a doctor and I guess the operation cost would be huge and due to the specialaztion the equipment would probably be large did I mention the capatlist all for yourself community sucks... hmm ok I still do have some negativity... well I guess there will be a solution that will be good as we will "eventually" have enough idle time to solve all the worlds problems (I can only hope)
I'm probably going deaf but I just play the music louder to compensate...:):( so I'm an idiot either I'm going to be careless really angry or happy at my new set of ears any of the three I guess I'm willing to deal with. As far as the fan goes on my amd I like the noise for the most part. I really on like silence in nature... or when trying to be completely relaxed or not wanting to here my nephew in the mornin but I have earplugs when I need them. How can the fan cause ringing in the ears? I think I'm going to read that study. Really though due to my love of electronic music I will probably go deaf very young.
well I guess that's an advantage... it also aparent;y has less pages to find stuff in... I will say again I liked it. I still think that a really good metasearch engine would kill google.. hold on... well no but it would be more effective... like what would happen if all these searchengines like linked or something... and you know all their databases were combined... and like duplications were like taken away.. you know.. and each of them handled some different aspect or something and the databases.. well anyway.. I guess thats less advertising.. or maybe it would be like super bowl.. but anyway... lots of room exists for improvement but well.. anyway. Great engines though really it is impressive on the amount of data they go through atleast I think so.
I would think competition is good for the consumer as long as it keeps the feild in progress and lowers pricing aswell as increases use of said product. As far as the need for innovation in the product due to the competive nature the feild progresses aswell as becomes more available. That is if the company wasn't going to do this on their own. Its the whole concept of lets keep it fresh and new in order to keep control. There are competitors to microsoft they just arn't fighting a war to beat them(as a whole). From what I have seen of software for instance companies specialize in feild but are dependant upon ms as the point. I personally am one for monopolies since I think that they reduce waste but they have to be well managed monopolies with forward vision instead of stagnation. I am in no way saying that microsoft is non forward looking or stagnant and just the mention may lead to psychology binding so I will say again I do not think ms is non forward looking or stagnant. Instead actually it's ability to be supported and establishing the trends and compatibilities is its own perspective as to how it wants to shape the future of computing. Just think if all those other companies which arn't in anyway owned by microsoft well hold on... nevermind. All in all competition is seen as a tool for the lazy. It's like saying we arn't wanting progression and innovation at reduced cost to the consumer... no we are companies(no me I'm a bum)which increase cost to the consumer for reduced sevice and reliability... no we are not(not me)like that. The barriers of communication among large companies do not exist in a traditional sense. For instance take the music industry you have top execs switching for company to company. Really the buisness world is just like everyday life, you have nice people and you have not nice people. The trend of successful buisness is to succeed and this success is garentied(only if I could spell it). The success lays with knowing your customer, shaping your customer, and ease. Of course this is just my opinion. But the world is a odd place(only as odd as you make it). You have people with self intrest and you have people with global intrest. Plainly the world is not an effective buisness for the global person. If only self intrest became global intrest and not in a self intrest way. Hell it will be how it is I just think that it could have been and still could be a nicer place for "everyone". But hell I'm just a bum who won't do anything for myself. The whole wide world question is....
simon says stfu and its fomo not mofo...obiviously not enough dope oh now time fo da sho down this the new one in town and he gonna put you all down.. ready now eigh
*off topic but I had to drop it*
I think perhaps it is time all national borders are disolved and people put down all arms. The whole war thing is a joke. How can anyone expect peace when they are willing to fight. I personally have an easy life that is one that I don't consider it threatened. I do beleive in lead by example afterall you are the affect of your enviroment. Peace is a state of mind. When people have tolerance for one another is when there will be peace. War is a battle of everyone. It is a choice of the individual to fight. I personally think it is greater to die for your beliefs then it is to kill. I think this might be off topic though. I say it is about time that the UN exercises worldwide peacekeeping and that it is resolved to a international orginazation of the people and not the government.
they seemed like nice people to me.. I just hope maybe the people I talked to weren't psyc students.. uw is a really nice uni from what I've seen of it. Has some nice student areas lots of chilling area during the nights etc.. but I haven't seen it from a student prospective. There are lots of nice people there from what I've seen though.
short summary, 1 billion can easily be justified in the eyes of law enforcement legwork. However privacy issues involved cause a hamper. This is the US antitrust against the world. They feel they have things to protect at the cost of going against other wishes. They are clearly saying how they feel and it comes across as US.
The long
still wanna know what a troll is... its not that ugly fur ball creature that falls into the water in willow and turns into that huge monster thingie that spits fire
"Taliban and PLO communications and whatnot"
but what are they going to use it on after they do a couple more holly wars... huh? who's next next thing you know its gonna be your grandmothers nursing home then they'll start the stiknine(so I spelt it wrong) injection you know first enemies then less enemies then less freinds then then.. you yes you could be next... but half a billion can't they just say.. you have brown hair lets send a bomb to your house...? are they really that clueless... thats what scares me that they have to buy a.5 billion or 1billion dollar decryption machine can't they just use those satalites and really good scented dogs?,, or just use the lightposts as fiberoptic sensors.. oh too late.. but what if they are decrypting some stuff always won't they get not bad people stuff too isn't that invasion of privacy??? not to mention in the case of cross nationalities and stuff thats like war stuff isn't it.. not only this but they're gonna get bored eventually... I suggest giving the billion to the plo taliban people yup.. then all of them won't have a reason to fight... their standards of living will all go up and then they won't have a clue what to do.. well not really but What exactly is till 1billion dollars is quite abit of money.. you could probably bribe god with that type of capital.. the catholic church does it right so why can't the goverment do it too... that price tag seems offully high though..... bad taste but they got insurance money don't they..eh well 1 billion thats allot of money.. that is allot of money. and where are they getting these messages to decrypt... my guess is if they have the messages then they know who the bad people are and if they know who the bad poeple are why can't they just drug them to hell and get the information out of them the old fasioned way... playing truth or dare.. I dare you to walk down the middle of that highway naked.. ok.. I did it now I dare you to tell me all your secret plans for world domination.. its fair in love..and war.. truth and dare same diff... but I guess you are talking about saving live.. not to mentino trying out a really cool thingie.. comon imagine the guy behind that thing... he would probably feel like well...me.. but think of all the neat things you could do with processing power like that.. you could make really really neat techno tracks.. techno track.. decode world plot to assasinate world leader.. techno track world leader.. eh the world leaders can wait lets make the techno track.. ok so its not funny I found it funny and thats all that matters... frankly I think 1 billion is a huge price tag considering that decryption will not happen to any message intended to be unreadable except by the chosen person.. the reason I know this is because I'm not that smart and I feel I could make sure a message couldn't be decrypted even by god himself... it's wasted money in my books the good part of it is the stuff that comes off of it though like the technology development and skilled thinkers out of it.. but if they have 1 billion sitting around I'm sure there is lots of well in africa to be drilled or universities that can be set up in the middle east etc... the key to safety is knowledge and not the hoarding of it but educating others educated people relize the futility of war and of killing.. also huge anger management course.. just think where the world would be if hitler or stalin was enroled in anger management courses.. ok not funny once again I find it funny and thats all that matters... can't they just use like a desktop or something.. intel should be coming out will 44ghrtz in time for next christmas shouldn't they... 1024 bit encryption... they invented encryption didn't they make the decryption at the same time like some crackpots would in bad taste say like the hiv virus.. ok eh... I gotto stop doing that.. get it all out of my system now.. ok 1024 encryption... this note could... can't they just guess.. if they get it right then their ment to get the message.. no.. just an idea.. I guess they can just scrap building like one destroyer or something to make up the money.. what scares me is that.. hmmm...
" Anyway, its not like crackers, with malicious intent, would go buy themselves a 1 B dollar supa-puter to intercept your midget pr0n transaction.
So quit being paranoid, and go back to jacking off to your gay beastail midget pr0n.:-P"
but what your forgetting is that my gay beastail midget pron is my code... duh.. like I need the pron to jack off to... I got my imagination...
"Anyone wanna take out Hillary Rosen? That RIAA bitch needs to go!"
we must remember hillary is not a bitch.. bill is... bad taste again.. must remember not to do that oh well.... can't blame em... well sure you can.. ok blame him but dont hold it against him.. sure you can... ok hold it against him blame him but don't do anything about it.. sounds good. hmm people are only human. hmm whatever
"When carrier battle groups, air wings, army divisions and the fate of nations are on the line, $1 billion for total SIGINT access is cheap indeed.
Break out those one-time key pads and pigeons, boys, the government will own your electronic crytposouls before you know it."
imposible.. it's the other way around. They break the law they are accountable. No one is above the law. They will be held accountable for any wrong they do against humanity even their warped veiw of humanity.
decrypting some elses mail is not nice to do.. if they wanted you to read it they would send it to you.. that's prejudgment of guilt or innocence.. which is not a nice thing to do. How can they expect someone else to be nice if they arn't. They who create the seeds of ill fall prey to it.. as always humans fall prey to their thoughts and imaginations if not now when least they expect it.
It's funny if your expecting people to know your secrect and everything why not make it as distastefull and boring as posible... but... lets... not.... be... too... boring.... wasting peoples time is plainly not a nice........ thing to do... why not teach whylst.. you bore... wait....I think it's lack of trust that is really not nice.. once again how are you suppose to trust if they have no trust.. having a little trust yes I can understand.. but having no trust.. that is something else entirely different// thats almost as bad as..well anyway
"It *is* a measly sum - as the email says - how many government agencies have this sort of funding? More than just a couple of US agencies that's for sure."
must be mircosoft..... so much bad taste so little room.. ok must be dod or some other liek oh this isn't getting posted...
"Now here's the scary part. Once they've made the $1B investment to break terrorist encryption, do you really think they'll have 420,000 encrypted messages from terrorists sitting around waiting to be cracked? No, but they're going to have to find something to crack with all those spare CPU cycles to justify their expenditure..."
ok now it makes sense... it will be made by the RIAA!!!! to stop software&music and other such copyright enfringments... if say there was 420,000 hotmail or pgp or whatever then you would probably.. uhmm no not getting posted.
"I'm sure Curly would love to sell them $1 Billion worth of Marvels, although I'm equally sure that BG will do everything he can to stop it. Just think - financial independence for Compaq could be just a contract away, and it will probably never happ "
hey that's an idea.. buy a bunch of comics or cards..hold them for a year.. then sell themm.. then that agency can buy the magic decryptor ring for free..... eh.. that's almost right up there with like investing a billion in the stock market but with comics you can almost gaurenty a investment return...... I just think this idea is a really good one because it lets me imaging a bunch of people with rifles and uniforms putting comics into plastic sleaves with sterile gloves...... you could even make a documentary out of it and air it on fox... that might even get a few more dollars... you could even call it project swordfish2... I could see it... yah I could see it...
"At this rate I think this machine should be afordable in around 5 years..."
hmm...that made me think less costly countries... when they get the technology if they don't already have it... what how much does it cost to make really good sand...... or why not just have cell phones always connected to the networks and use them as processors... since everyone and their mother has a cell phone.. start up a save the nation cell campaign.. huh..... yah I can see it. so their might be some battery issues... or why not just buy up old computers.. and use them not only can they be sent to underprivelaged places but you could also have them backup as decryptors... or even buy somputers for all you shcools and during nighthours have them used... hmm humans sleep for how long.. how long do computers sleep... really how many unused computers are their.. how many us goverment computers sit unused how many funny... I don't mind others adding tomy music.. anyway.. why not use the investments you already have.. or integrating cost into use for more than regular use.. like lots of stuff I can think off but why not let you think about it. First of all is there a need....? Or is it the cross effects that are benificial... where is it going... 1billion super computer.. would be odd if it just sat on top of some guys desk... its probably going to need like a corner or something and you would probably have to move a fax machine or something.. so really I'm thinking you would need a facility and if you have a new facility.. it would probably either be under a shopping mall accessed through sewers or need some type of gaurd or something... so that some kid doesn't try to play quake on it. Actually you could probably get some nice multy playergames off a processor like that.. but back on topic.. the machine itself is not the only cost to consider so I would hope that they also took into account this in the pricetag... but 1 billion.. must be cause that is allot of money... like I get a $10 a week allowance and 1 billion is like... allot more than $10. theres like 00000000 more zeros... thats allot of money... actually 1000000000 it doesn't look that big when I type it out...1000000000 but still anyway... I think that lifecycle cost taken into account 1 billion works out to 10000 or less scientist salaries or doctors or others.. research generated from these professionals would... doesn't the us have like some huge national debt or something.. I know its some type of issue or something here..so if they have a debt thats like me going out and buying new car when I have all this alamonie(so I spelt it wrong) to pay... I had this friend who owed me like over $100 for over a year it really sucked... just another thought... hmm
"While it's not going to be on the same price curve as high-volume PC production, there are still Moore's Law effects here - the price/performance of FPGAs and ASICs keeps decreasing as technology improves, and the price of smaller-width chip design keeps improving. The real question is whether the development of this sort of machine can piggyback on other hardware development, plus how motivated is the NSA to build it as further research indicates whether or not it will be really useful..."
what about spending 1billion on a computer that will design a 1billion computer.... instead of spending the it was a good idea originally.. like the intel computers that make the chips why not funnel the billion in economic computers for next year or whatever.. and then use that older computer for olderstuff while the newer computer actually does it...... personally I am more of a direct research type person that spending money to get people to think is a good if not better investment that getting what you know you can already have... I am also a firm beleiver in anything I can think someone can think better.. and in this case that means that well if this system is designed solely for decryption you better hope there are allot of stupid terrorist.. if there are allot of stupid terrorist then... well its not a funny matter but its almost like saying ok try better its like training them.. its like some cruel game to up stakes... its like well... people are blowing themselves to peices for their ideals.. don't you think its time to talk or something rather than just get ready to see more people die. The other thing is if well not to give ideas but I would think that any ring would already have set operating procedure and any smart ring I would think would have a rule for time in messages.. only trust in person and don't time delay your messages type policy.. the thing once agian I would hope that professionals would actually have a better system... but it seems pure off topic to this system.. I think its good they want to spend 1 billion on this but I can't see it being effectively used for decryption of sensitive messages.. I would hope that well hope not but that any sensitive data is not held in conventional methods of decryption even if it is time consuming methods... oh well... like I could only see this used on really stupid people... and these are the last people that I would want to see locked up because stupid people myself included are the most har...it would be more like this person is using 1024 bit encryption ok this will be fun... if you know its a message its even funnier.. its like we know this guy is sending encoded messages.. hmmmmmm... I would be more concerned with where the message is going.. and who is receiveing it.. and seeing if those people use the same anyplace that is using private messages you know wants to hide something anyone that wants to hide something is potentially an enemy.. thats my simple logic.. or rather is trying to protect something.. if it is not obvious what that is then that is when you have an issue.. when you know obviously that there is something they should be hidding then either that person or orgianzation should be very much your friend or you should have very much your friend high up... otherwise well...
or even why not start a program to get desktops worth 1 billion to welfare and other such poeple throw in tutorials etc.. for training.. hook up highspeed lines and use the systems as extra processing power for a central system..... not only do you get skills training but you also get a secondary use plus you get lots of other stuff.. really I gues power cost is one thing.. but that wouldn't be an issue if people just implemented my wire the world and solar powering programms...
"How can you be very dead? Death is boolean, you're either dead or not dead."
I have a firm beleif I can't acutally die... other wise why live.... one day you may find out this not to be true but always I will believe this.. it goes along with the belief you truely know nothing other than your own existance.. of course testing this theory goes against the belif.. don't fuck yourself up too much..
More than Cowboy Neil has but if I were to really tell you I would say $1 plainly what I know only I know... what everyone else knows its the same story but in my case well... no one ever listens to me anyway.. but no I don't think that I could ever trust someone trying to buy my information.. it would have to be a mental symbiosis really I can't put a value on something that someone can just shoot me afterword for its sort of senseless... there is no reall price.. what I don't like is all the invisble technolies being used like the robotic spider that was crawling phased on my ceiling and the invislbe men watching me.. but really.. I still wondering about that odd spider.. the organic one not the machine one thats been hanging around my house for the last couple months.. its pretty nice though and likes my coffee too well I don't actually know if it likes the coffee but I think it tired it out.. but what could someone want to buy off me they couldn't go to a few years in university for.. or less.. like highschool or even like well hmm.. all I have to say is who I am now is not who I was two years ago.. and who I am now is what matters to me and where I continue from... anyone that would actually consider buying my information would be responisble for divedends off intellectual properties if any income was garnered of 10% of net profit they would also be responsible for putting me on salary aswell as responisble for 1% net profit of any of their intellectual property. If it was a one time thing I think that it would depend but the answer would be how much are you offering.. and then yes or no...
"Anyway, we all know they've been reading our sekrit kees by telepathy for years now, right?"
but what about counter telepaths?? how are they suppose to read their keys???
"when there are more than 2^256 electrons in the universe! Which there aren't"
huh?????
I think that the only somewhat safe encryption is that not understood by anyone else other than those that need to know sorta like signlanguage.. well not really but you get the idea
"If strong AIs are developed, who knows what could be analyzed... "
If,,, although the ai would still be dependant upon processor type and power..i.e. either neural structuring or traditional stucturing..
going back to that thing about revealing my most secret secret.. I have to say that I couldn't tell you anything that I promised someone I wouldn't...
foriegn war as a means to say we rule local domestic don't even try something.
"except in that sense you aren't gonna crack by brute-force anything even 128 bit in the next 20 years"
huh?? I would hope you have greater expectations for yourself 20 years from now.. especially with all those brain steroids and cybernetic memory plants... not to mention 98th demension gates... think more get less get more than less
"Using multiple encryption on one message may not increase the difficulty and may even lower it. Encryption algorithms are mathmatical formula so this example will suffice even though it may be simplistic. Say you have two encryption algorithms F(x)=8x and G(x)=x*x*x. You may think that by combining the two would make it more difficult to find x but F(G(x))=(2x)*(2x)*(2x) or 2x cubed which is as difficult as G(x) by itself. But say instead of G(x) you used H(x)=x/8 which would simply decrypt x to it's original value. In short to be able to combine encryption algorithms you have to know what they do and even then there is no garuntee that you're not introducing new holes"
whats H's value... I don't know about you but my simple math skills say that you can't find a numeric value if there are more than one non numeric value you would still have... hold on.. really the values can represent a bunch of things... but none is prooveable simple algebra is simple regardless all it is is isolation.... nevermind... ok here's a new hole non logical coding... or exclusive keys that are not based upon binary representations such as hyroglphics or the like iconography and only having one instance each esentially a new language for each message but each language has traits of previous languages and the key to traits lays with well boring stuff but anything that can be encountered in many cases but there are probably better systems.. I personally think seperate languages.. like those secret hand jestures the president use.. but say like military training for instance having a 1 or two year course for groups that use their own specialized language like learning spanish... but having spanish german etc.. so developement of new language groups for specialized that way even if the simple logics of breaking codes exist then you still have to break the cultural context... etc.. etc.. which is just the tip of the iceberg for a truely secretive society.. but why... why hide ideas we all have the same goal. and it would be so much easier reached together in cooperation.... I guess ultimately it will be cooperation regardless just not necisarilily conventional
slashdot teaches you so much stuff that if you went nowhere else on the net you would learn stuff from elsewhere on the net(a compliment intended)
"Making up your own crypto is almost always a really bad idea."
for who?
"The reason why increasing the key size is so much more efficient is that by increasing the key by only a single bit, you double the number of possible keys."
wouldn't you more than double?
"I certainly am getting sick of the "tabloid news style" that Slashdot is using lately."
Arn't all the tabloids telling the truth? I thought they were... I'll tell you if I'm just kidding around..
as far as tabloids I see slashdot as informative yet not boring as hell(minus myself of course)j/k.... hmmm I'll have to convert each post to an essay aswell..j/k....(j/k)
"$10 billion worth of data "
better not be web accessable hell better not be accesable... security is so simple how can there honestly be a threat.. security=secure... secure=non-accessable non-accessable=secure
"...lets you steal all of Visa "
how many slots are there.... how many names are their?.... when was registry for numberslots of type... what are registry dates etc... carding I would think would be a simple task but its not a nice thing to do. but honestly I don't know how to myself
I just want to know who owns the damn phase mechanic spider
"if you were a government agency with $1b to invest in some kind of anti-terrorist encryption breaking scheme, would you invest it in this or would you invest it in quantum computing research?"
ever heard the phrase don't put all your eggs in one basket... I wouldn't buy the basket.... but I woudn't drop the eggs either I would probably make an omlet or just scambled eggs or if I was feeling really nice I would probably give the eggs to other people if they were hungry... both or neither honestly if it works it works if they both get your desired result then what advantages does one have over another.. from what I know about quantum computing it sounds like it can handle complex mathematics on a much faster basis than conventional systems.. I don't know the limits of quantum computing or the limits of what is available for 1billion... honestly I don't think that using a 1billion dollar system for one use exclusively is a good idea but I would say no clue.. whatever works best... I personally don't think I could design the system they are planning for either the quantum or the regular... so I have no clue... whatever does the most for technology progression ease of use and other stuff like facility size personel required building time cost trust issues etc.. I don't think that the system is needed for terrorist*.... reasons though. just politely ask.. are you plotting to kill so and so or.. bomb so and so.. or smugle this and such.. if they don't tell you.. then well you can't hold it against them.. if they do something then... I guess they did it...I guess thats against the whole national security thing though.. then again I'm not employed by the NSA so.. I would consider upgradeability etc.. and use after lifespan.. what is the point.. either they have well I guess there is the whole toy philosophy aswell... I guess do as much as you can... but the whole idea of the volume of messages to be sorted... the only way I could see it humanly posible is to actually use keywords etc.. which could miss huge chunks of data... I guess this is pestimistic but it would seem that either your going to be able to get information through simple means or the people will be using advanced means... the whole thing is like putting reinforced doors on the aircraft... it just makes it that much more difficult.. it can still be done and anyone wanting to plan it can plan it.. so I guess the whole concept to this system would be cutting out lower rings etc.. while the more advanced rings minus corperate ones would be reduced to military oposition... and it would be difficult to hide them unless they were extremely well engineered... so the 1billion investment would be to threaten... they would get their money out of it..... either system whicheverone works....
"When it comes to terrorism, encryption really isn't the main problem. Identifying, isolating and eliminating causes (be they philosophies -- such as a desire for complete theocratic control -- or individual people) is."
i.e. reverse social engineering....
"The real issue is control. Governments in general seek to expand their control, just look at how many laws we have now, compared to a few hundred years ago. The government can't control what it doesn't know about, thus it desires to know everything. The maddening thing is, some people have the audacity to encode their communication with a cypher that's very hard to break. The government knows there must be something interesting in those messages, but they don't know what. What's a billion dollars compared with the knowledge (and associated power) that comes from reading those tidbits."
This goes back to the philosophy that if they wanted you to know they would tell you... how rude.. it's not like I'm innocent of never snooping through someone else stuff.. for instance the end result of years of snooping resulted in my skull being accidentally smashed into a door being kicked down... resulting concosive force cause my nose to bleed and my skull to warp.. life hasn't been the same since.. my skull is still dented but what I am trying to say is... don't bite the no thats not it.. why not just ask and if not respect their wishes... I don't like the idea of my protector being my watcher too.. or rather that reminds me more of say a dictatorship.. holdon... oh yah don't piss of the people that run the world.. must remember this.. *elitist state* coug coug... but what the hell can you do right... just be a good little boy and everything will be ok...but in my eyes the goverment already does a terible job at representing the wide populas and for the most part is non-visioned and to conflicted.. basically it's not doing an effective job... but hell I'm not the one hell I'm a bum... what the hell do I know... oh well
"For a time in writing my own webforum software I considered doing login passwords as a file upload of a key file. The problem here though is that you send them a file to decrypt and they can spend as long as they want pawing at the file, and eventually brute it out. It's the model of sending someone a file that they decrypt that's broken - not that key length"
set a limit for logins.... just like this message will self destruct.. or time encoding.. but I got no clue how that would be done.. what I do know is anything I can think can be done though... sorta like the attempts at one time downloading etc... of the RIAA type stuff thingies.. reall the RIAA is interesting to see what they come up with... huh?
"Unless they crack your head..."
my head is dented or cracked in two places that I know off.. yes more useless information peole don't need to know
What does factoring have to do with rendering, or, for that matter, chess?
factoring could have representaions into processing strength.. I think anyway... with software on board a processor or utilasation in processor based network intellegence designes you could have fast reponses... thats a way I tie it in... when you think solving algorythms I think speed when I think speed I think processing.. just because this one would be specific... anyway thats how I see it...I havn't looked at how factoring works on a system outside of regular processing... sure I'll read something about it sometime soon..
"If you have something to protect that is worth $1bn for someone to steal and the only protection you have on it is 1024-bit crypto, you deserve to have it stolen. "
stealing is not a nice thing to do.
"I feel it's more likely they have finally realized what people on Slashdot have said hundereds of times in the past: Encryption above 128 bit is readily available to anyone who searches for it, export restrictions will not stop it.
What do you think?"
I think a human can get anything it knows exists if it wants to.. its just how bad they want it..
interesting my monitor is acting...
"If your enemy is a major government and you don't have a very large budget yourself, you might as well give up now, IMHO. Not because I think they could factor 4096-bit RSA, but because I think they probably can get into your house without you knowing about it and tap your keyboard. The only time an attack like this wouldn't be called for is if the danger (to life, to diplomatic relations, whatever) of their being discovered is worth the money they'd have to spend on a more sophisticated attack."
that would be b&e and that is not nice. Not nice people must deal with their not niceties... and if I was to attack a goverment agency they wouldn't know it... their concealment by the ultra obvious and their is the reversal for all time.. people are people... I feel I understand logical existance I feel I understand science.. since I understand these two things I am able to account for all logical posibilities and because of this know that anything is posible...
"32 bits isn't centuries; its about 45 years if Moore's law keep up, but RSA is much weaker than that in fact, so an extra 32 bit might only be 5-10 years."
what about ashley's law.. anything you know about someone else has probably already made and if not.. well
maybe I'm just missing something but what's so hard about brute forcing a large key.. the complexity doesn't seem there how many pobilities how many systems.. how many attempts... but I guess there is something I'm missing..
"The non-conspiracy argument that I've heard makes a lot of sense to me, at least. US government believes that E-Commerce is going to be big. US Government notes that US retailers can export lots of goods to other countries if e-commerce is enabled. US Government notes, exports==good. US Government realises, people outside the US need to be able to communicate securely with companies inside the states in order to perform such transactions. US Government allows export of strong crypto, giving US a world lead in e-commerce market.
Money is almost always a better explanation for the actions of Americans than malice."
it's not posible. atleast as far as conventional logic states... you can cut out the amount of people that can do it but you cannot erase it... no technology that can be created is uncounterable... the difficulty is a different matter.. but even when dealing with say forgery and impersonation.. with skill such as voice alteration surgeries etc... aswell as advanced set ups and skilled individuals anything is posible but off course your talking about skilled groups... with personal resource.. of course ties in the whole technology push verses maintaing training etc... we are holding ourselves back but in fear.. I guess its just cause I'm mad and have already got to concensus in my life that I feel I will always be because I cannot account for the logic in ending so because of this I can only place hope in that all things will be good in the end. I can only hope that everyone else feels this way sometime other wise I could be very lonely. The other way just doesn't matter.
"If I remember correctly, there is a section in Applied Cryptography where Schneier calculates that the sun going nova would not provide enough energy to flip through every combination of 256 bits, never mind actually testing them to see if they decrypt the message. So yes, 1024 bit symmetric encryption will be secure from brute force attack for quite some time, at least until we start building black hole powered computers and feed entire galaxies into them."
does the blackhole contain more energy than a supernova? I thought that a blackhole was the result of the destuction of many stars or rather colistion... so it would be spent energy forming a lactice of negative forces orrather a tear in the regular.. well baiscally highly dense concentration of base matter... or maybe it is an alien camo..... the thing though if my concept on inverse realities or opostion realities exists then you can have any amount of energy needed as long as it is reversed in the oposition reality it would still hold things at a balance but I'm not a physisict(hell I can't even spell it)
"polynomial factoring algorithm does not exist."
You got to be kidding, whats so difficult about polyniminal factoring?
"Of course, your love letters are copyrighted by you, so... Yeah, NSA will be liable to you for the market value of your love letters."
The market value is not predetermined. The potential for profit from anything is altered by any action that comprimises that copyright... so the love letters etc.. Deemed priceless would hold the NSA liable for well... everything. Plainly they may think they have buisness snooping but really they don't but who am I hell I'm not even american. I guess I just believe all things will be accounted for in the end. People have to live with all their choices forever. I guess people have this whole power thing going on. There appears to be bad guys etc.. But I take things on a person to person basis. WTF is up with this world.
"like the topic says... Shouldn't we be spending the money on more useful things rather then trying to prove 1024bit keys can be cracked? We know they can with enough horesepower."
Hell thats what shearbear and napster are for arn't they?
I just write like this no one would waste all their time reading this I hope.. So if I write one little thing on one page in war & peace...
"This is the kind of story that could get huge exposure in "normal" news if there's nothing better to show. Just imagine the headlines: "Internet banking no longer safe"" "Anyone can steal your money when you shop online!" And noone would have an idea what's really going on.
"
yet another reason why the capitalist system is flawed.
""jan? khlaz tuirt'kah dar gangan Mbou!""
"third door to the left make sure you flush after using,:"
OK, I'm not saying that one can simply go off and invent a perfect language in a coupla weeks, but look at the pseudo-languages like Elvish, Klingon and whatnot. Ideas, criticisms, reactions??
I had this same idea if you read earlier.. But what you are forgetting is if in the case of privacy you must no stick to known course say for instance if I were to use musical scales and frequecy ranges etc.. To send messages as a language unless you have the score first you would have to have an ear or proper mesuring devices etc... for instance morse code is rythmic dots and dashes etc.. You could apply one type of messaging to one instrament sound or frequecny it would get to the point instead of being a visual representation it would be a audio representation although it would be a highly advance language... anyway I like the idea but I think it would take some time I think you have the right idea... of course spoken languages can be picked up by other people that are able to learn... its definately a way of keeping people out of the loop I was over at this dutch families place some years back.. I sware dutch hurts if you only speak english and try to follow a conversation.
"Plus of course, if someone is holding a cattleprod to your crown jewels and you're standing in a bucket of water, it doesn't *really* matter whether u used gazillion-bit keys anyway..."
Sure it does cause you can tell them anything you want.. And there is no way of them nowing unless they can crack the code... but I did find it funny
"There is another problem with this idea. Namely, languages are easier to analyze than mathematical cryptosystems, for a number of reasons.
Languages are believed to have "deep structures", which are common to all languages. This would mean that you could figure out the nouns and verbs and such in the language with a bit of work.
Even without these deep structures, you will eventually come up with a list of words, and you can then use conventional information theory to attach meanings to those words. (ie. you notice some words occur more often just before some action.) "
so now you know what not to do if you are making your own:"secret language.. Now you just need to use alien thought.. Thats not hard now is it... but as far as words etc.. What about using mathematical scientific etc.. Meaning size descriptions changes in reality representations... so this far this way etc.. Within 3d space having each demension in represnetion forces vibration sound smell etc.. The emotion envolved is a separate issue and would be conveyed in the actual representation of the language....
LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGG
We always do this kind of work in May. We need frozen conditions so that we can land an airplane anywhere on ice or snow, but not so cold that it is impossible to work outdoors," Newitt said.
what no funding.. the us can think up a mars observer to travel thousands of miles in space only to crash but they can't fund scientist studying our own magnetic axis? No offence meant to NASA in anyway since I'm sure that the mars surveyor etc... and I'm not a rocket scientist so I'll say they know what they are doing better than me but anyway why don't they take the human need out of the study? they made hover boards in 1960 didn't they... there might be a problem with that but hope everyone who actually reads understands what I am trying to say.
It's doesn't make sense that magnetic poles don't have effects on humans.. there are personal gravamagnetic if that is the world for every object and any fields when in contact which one another will have an effect I think but I'm not even a highschool graduate and don't really know phsyics but if the feilds nuture the human body and cell growth etc.. cellular mitosis and repairs etc then the poles stronger field would have an effect on the growth of cells I would think but I guess CNN would know better so I thought I would atleast speak my mind and get the educated peoples to correct my errors in thought.
"Most, if not all, topographic maps have the difference between True north and magnetic north noted on them. This is so that people navigating by compass don't get lost. If the magnetic pole is moving that fast, then the maps are going to have to be updated much more frequently."
topography changes constantly with the tectonic plates anyway the magnetic pole I believe is just the planetary inter solar system cross effect which is made by system to system feilds and the oh I know nothing but the geographic north and the magnetic north as outlined are two seperate points... since the planet is not a perfect sphere there isn't a true north anyway atleast one point that is always there actually everything is in contstant motion at every moment on all levels the solar system is moving the planet is moving the fields that we are locked in are constantly changing not only this but we are also chaning the wieghting of the planet or distribution on both a natural and artificial level but really every thing is well everything is at a consant(posibly) and we know that there is movement on a teretrial and interterestrial level.. we(I) do not know if it is a patern however it could be though we tend to see things as cyclic when in fact we can never actually know because we can't account for all time and never can. Simple logics are used however cause it brings order oh Im getting way off topic anyway I think its neat that the pole is changing however what I'm wondering if it is effected by the polar ice glaciers melting and altering the weight distribution since the water mooves to the equatorial regions I think Im not sure about that but an object spinning I would think that the stuff would go to the central point like a bucket spun over your head filled with water. So if the magnetic center is shifting then that would mean that the axis is shifting force oh thats gravity isn't it not magnetics oh nevermind.
"You and your inbred, half-wit family suck ass!!"
uhm all families are imbred Imbreading is just a social stigma.. which I have but anyway..
"movement has always been unpredictable"
nothing is unpredictable you just need points of refernace (and lots of coffee..not really but I'm trying to start trying to be funny)
I also wanted to say... isn't there many magnetic feilds... and points of higher magnetics.. aswell as minerals.. maybe the siberians are building large stockpiles of cobalt nuclear weapons which is changing the feild or the metal gnomes like magnetic goelms are building a huge underground labrotory to do expreiments on the caputure morlocks... uhh or it could just be that the magnetic lightning rods are changing places such as the mining in sudbury and depletion of the nickle.. nickle is magnetic right... so mabye the change in mangetic grounders is causeing the field to shift so that human gorging of the planet is causing gaia to flya toward siberia or maybe its the huge secrect weapons project on that island off of the coast of japan that godzilla was originally from and that the nuclearmagnetic nutreano bombs(mortars) are causing a feild ripple which is sucking the axis closer to the detonation point...
"also, you can make a compass [thinkquest.org] using a bowl of still water, a blade of grass, and a small sliver of ferrous metal. (like the hand of a watch) "
you watched that movie too?
what I don't get is how do people actually get lost? and why you would need to use orientation to go places don't they have roads everywhere now.
"Those without electricity to run GPS devices."
solar/windup/baterypacks
"Suppose that your batteries run down, or your generator breaks down, or the GPS device you're using doesn't have a hand crank. I bet you'd really like to know the difference between true north and magnetic north right about then. " Sun moon constelations
"Suppose the U.S. goes to war in the near future with a country who is not vastly overwhelmed by our military might. If I was in charge of a war effort in such a country, (China for example, which may happen depending on how we handle the 'War on Terrorism'), I would make a point of using missiles to eliminate the network of GPS sattellites in order to confuse and confound my enemies."
hahahhhhahhahha war... war doesn't exist anymore only political support people can kill whoever they want now adays.. that is unless something is self contained and unkown or in space behind the moon. If I was leader of a country invade by a force I couldn't beat I would say here you win and at the same time tell my underground and trusted people to start plotting the 6999 year long guerilla war effort after poisoning there water supplies by having immagration infiltrate their civil dependancies etc.. etc.. but I don't beleive in killing or war it doesn't exist only nice people and mean people exist now honestly If I wanted I could destory every government in the world but thats not a nice thing to do. Just that smart people tend to know that anything is posible and smarter people know not to let people know your smart and the smartest people well I got no clue. Down the list less smart poeple think they know smart and smarter and the smartest people while really not smart people relize that itellegence and smartness doesn't exist just a really fucked up reality so why not have another. its funny how people can believe in something they can't prove and have no facts about just assumption or propagation lifes funny that way sometimes.
"And in response to the grandparent of this post, good luck hitting any LEO satellite with a missle. That's like trying to shoot a fly at 5000 yards with a.44. Talk about a feat! A more effective anti-satellite weapon would probably be a railgun (a real railgun) capable of hurling millions of particles of dust sized shrapnel at insane speeds in the general vacinity of the target satellite -- if they'd ever finish the development of the weapon.."
why take out a satelitte??? what the point I don't want to threaten national or gto type powers but it should be obvious the redudancy
"The GPS was consistently off by at least 30 meters. That may not sound like a lot, but when you are calling for direct fire, 30 meters is the difference between wiping out the enemy and wiping out your squad or platoon"
why wouldn't you just use laser designation in ranges that close(dual point) not sure if the technology exist yet but its that one that sends the signal to the target then you send the signal to the aircraft with the tool as the way point etc.. the relation in x1,y1 x2,y2 x3,y4
either that or throw a grenade or a mortal or let loose with a rapid fire weapon or a canister of gas or use your snipers to hit them with tranquilizes or just put up a white flag or have one unarmed persona walk there under guise or not that is ofcourse if opostion isn't on shoot to kill orders or something really war sucks and is outdated even at risk of someone actually reading this and being in the military.. it is the military that causes the worlds problems that and buisness of selfish intrest since the military states I will kill for what I beleive and selfish buisness states the survival of the buisness outweighs all else.. really the last people that I should in anyway be attacking but I'm not as smart as them(I thought of a joke of parlay) but I guess the world isn't a perfect place and these are the people that aparently are protecting societies intrest and I have no proof either way since I have proof of nothing.
the us has no buisness with china.. china in asia us in north america pacific ocean between internatinal dateline I wish everyone would just say ok this is the world ideal from now on and get on with it then you know do that social progression thing you know the ultimate representation of social powers forming the concept for social progression.. it takes a bigstrong man to say I'm the leader it takes a bigger man to say ok your the leader and still lead.(I'm sure something will make sense eventually)
"No, its us humans doing it. We're destroying the environment, and now were causing the poles to move at unprecedented rates,"
I personally think its microsoft windows xp causes huge magnetic shifts in the space time continu um.
"Just think if we got a big'ol solid block of steel hoovering over it. Everybody run! The Pole is comming, the pole is comming!!! "
just think that in the early period of the earth it was encased in a metalic shell cause by compression of hydrogen and that the origianl megnetic field is just a overlaying representaion of some of those effect.. not really but really
"What happens when it is daytime, cloudy or you are in a light saturated location? Even if you can see it, it is impractical if you are traveling soley by compass. I do a lot of sailing and I can tell you, Polaris is not very useful unless for celestial navigation."
landmarks and nightplotting using lowlight goggles or flares or a really strong flashlight... acutally... hmmm
what about using tectonic indicators or airflow and and radio or even radio waves... yah radio waves... anywave really as long as it is not disrupted by something else
"sorry, when I say "traveling soley by compass" I really mean a situation where you cannot see properly and use an instrument for direction finding. It would not be practical to do this because every time one would need to change direction slightly they would have to orient themselves with polaris as a reference."
you should when lost in the woods and people know your out hug a tree(you should make sure it is a really sexy tree though otherwise you might feel unfullfilled)if no one knows your out then start walking in a strait line leaving broken tree brances as you go(unless you are an enviromentalist)if you hit a river or stream follow the stream if you are somewhere really really big.. your screwed(you can always take up dandrofelia) unless you are a survivalist or something and in that case just build a log cabin and start your own tool and dye operation set up a trasistor thingy make your own company to rival intell and make a species of robot intellegence thingies to do your biddings..
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"there are things that a compass can do (gasp!) that gps can't, like taking bearings off of other objects to figure out what they are on the map and the inverse, plotting courses from the map and sighting them to the real world."
I can understand what your saying but cross referencing a few different databases and a handheld navagation tool can replace the maps really cost effectiveness is another issue but if you can teach someone how to point something or how to point something.... I think that since computer technologies are becoming more engrained in society the progression of applications may be on par now but with more proding will excede traditional methods. So essentially it will be more usefull although cost with our current social barriers will hinder true freedom of technology aswell as strong training methods
"and then there's the whole nature/tech separation which is the whole reason people go outside in the first place, to get away from the gadgets. i don't even like tripping with my watch"
I can see what your saying but I don't get it personally I like the outdoors to be with nature what the difference between a technological compas and a microcomputer? its all psychological but I guess thats cool whatever you enjoy right I like the birds the smell and the tranquility especially lakes lakes are really nice. personally it is the pairing of the best aspects of technology with the peace of nature. I think that we will go full circle however to the point where technology will no be seen but we will live with nature
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"GPS units can tell you your position with great accuracy, but they don't tell you which way north (or any other direction) is. To do that, you need a compass." I'm suprised that there isn't autocompases built into gps.. you know reading the thingie and showing it jsut like gps but it has an arrow saying north.. or an arrow saying south.. etc... or hell you could even do all of the directions... eh?
or just use multipoint gps refrenceing with a point location stating which ones are where which would allow you to determine north and south just simple math stuff I would think I could be wrong though
"I'd probably be bored of canada after a few eons too. "- how rude! "THough I hear the beer is good."- forgiven
"One of his favorite examples was that people don't understand gravity, and they don't understand magnetism, so UFOs must be powered by gravity engines."
actually I thought ufo's were made from electro magnetic cores and use a slingshot and energy collection and dispurtion system.. really simple cores I still dont get interstellar flight thought and how they travel between systems I'm guessing that another system is used although ever since 1967 its been phased out by reality warps that is altering the position in the space continu um. efectively teleproting
"Or the paranoid delusion that an invisible, omnipotent man is watching you whilst you engage in the process of expelling feces. "
that was just unfair to add to my warped sense of reality.. thanks..
"Though it has nothing to do with magnetic poles, it is true that sperm production in the testes can be aided by cooler temperatures."
Hmm I thought a body temerature had to be maintained thats why the scrotum retracts closer to the body when cold is encountered... your not trying to do the equivelant of press ctrl-alt-del to win the million dollars thing for people wanting to procreate are you?
For some reason I feel like this is some vast plot to lure candians to warmer weather...
"Blame Cananada!
by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, @01:00PM (#3195011)
"thirty+ million people"
You call that a country? Down here we call that California.
Sheesh, we kill more people with drunk drivers every year than that!
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Re:Blame Cananada!
by lposeidon (jpg_biker&hotmail,com) on Wednesday March 20, @03:37PM (#3196045)
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callifornia??? hell thats sound more like los angeles. or there aboot.
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Lizard "Never let them set limits on your mind!" >bastards100 "
I'm starting to think cities are just alien projects to see how many mad persons you can pack into a tight density well not really mmm nevermind
"So, if the north pole is shifting that far, that fast... will the Canadian children see any change in Santa's normal delivery schedule? I can only assume he'd be a little later than normal, seeing as how Siberia is quite a flight from Northern Canada."
your right we might have to redraft rocky and bul.. can't spell it but you know who I'm talkin about to save the day uhj no.. hmm ehh
I think Ive wathced too much mike bullard:_)
"In fact, Santa doesn't live at North Pole at all, but in Finnish Lapland [santatelevision.com]. How he manages to deliver all those toys in one night is a mystery, but I doubt it would be affected much by his physical starting point anyway since he must move pretty fast."
maybe he's using the same alien space folding technology.. my parents told me santa isn't real and that I got presents cause they love me...is this true or were they lying to me..?
"The pole does not move in more traditional manets, but the earyth's liquid core might provide an answer."
I thought the earths core was a mini star like all the otehr planets or read a gas core... really just a concentration of nucleaur unergy that is the depostis of what was left when the solar pangea broke apart the ones that were smaller stars burnt themselves out faster leaving dead stars the planets have been cooling since which is what caused the cores to start solidifying or cause rocks etc... when the liqud core cooled when the heat disapated it cause a air or rather magnaouseus core to be formed.. later in the case of earth a super condensed asperoid which was almsot entirely hydrogen also a cooled star hit earth causing the hydroshield to be formed in space... which was actually hydrogen which oh nevermind
"How, exactly, can the North Pole drift northward?
Seems like it would be more accurate to say that Siberia is drifting northward and North America is drifting southward.
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS NOW! At this rate, North America will be South America, environmentalists will be warning about the dangers we face when the Jamaican ice sheets collapse, and Australia will be located somewhere near the moon."
most of the plates are drifting to the northern axel eventually it will all connect again its the way that our solar system is in relation to others we are drifting north.. eventually our axis will shift.. bigtime
"And concerning climate the magnetic field is not important (only a bit maybe because it affects how solar winds hit earth)."
what about interplanetary magnetics causing shifts in the rotation route around the sun a slight variation cause by change in planetary magnetics would shift this minutely because of how the magnetic feilds are interconecting.. eh eh.. never thought about that one did ya remember elnino... ehhhh I'm smarter than you are I'm smarter than you are nan nanann nan na na.. you suck YOU SUCK !!!! hahahha hahhaha yoi.. I don't know what happened... j/k eh? we can still be friends can't we:))/ big j/k
thats it eureka... santa uses magnetic fields to travel the earth so quickly... its all so obvious he has the speical ability to use magnetic curents actually he can turnhimself into a magnetic current aswell and the sleigh he uses is made of cobalt which is what radiated the reindeer in that area with the ability to fly aswell... it all makes sence.. its becomeing more and more clear...
"ouch. i bet you had dreams of +5 Funny. swing and a miss."
loop
ouch. i bet you had dreams of +5 Funny. swing and a miss.
end loop
maybe it is breakup of ices which house mineral contents
etc..
"15 seconds of Google research will tell you that the pole reversal is thought to take 1000 years or so to complete. So it's not like you'll wake up some morning and magnetic North will suddenly be South."
I thought it was dependant upon globabl warming or rather the melting of the polar icecaps caused by ozone depletion and sheilding waterlevels etc.. rising cauing change in distribution also nuclear testing etc... also for the sake of green peace and not done in really really bad taste but atleast to raise awarness so even though I may be any way lets just say it aresol and whaling.. yup also sealing and mistreatment of foreign natinionals in lower tenesee.
"Or Maybe that's what really killed off the dinosaurs."
we are the dinasaurs(in my best mstical voice).. over many generations and interpbreading with monkeys.. don't ask anyway....
"Oh come on, the magnetic field doesn't block high energy particles, it only deflects them. So a particle that was going to hit you doesn't hit you, and a particle that *wasn't* going to hit you *does* hit you. It's pretty useless overall."
but if it diverts entire particle streams then the effect would be much more.. really I know nothing
"huge numbers of particles now enter the Earth's magnetosheath (atmosphere, etc.)."
what those sent by satalites....L:_)
"It takes a heck of a lot of radiation to cause total sterility. As long as that hasn't happened, the race can continue under conditions of extra solar radiation, but it won't be pleasant (and could lead to extra mutations, and thus the possible creation of more human races.)"
yah but now we have cloning.. its all a plot to have all humans born out of area51part8(the genetics center) when radiation gets high enough we won't be able to have kids and when this happens a51p8 will be able to control human kind(thats another story completely)anyway it has to do with sun micro and packard bell aswella s the ascii-white comptuer systems... a. gore was against the plots so the hybrid aliens controling the reasearch project and eventual domination project rigged the elections and overthrew the remaining human supreme court judges...
"(Obviously some individuals would survive since it has happened before and most existing species has already survived it at least once.)"
not necisarily.... I think that unless it causes a change in the upper earth feilds strato etc.. and innerspace then people on the iss would survive... but the effects hmmm regardless I will survive everything and there is no way you can prove me wrong.. atleast to my face.
"Re:that's not bad "
hahhahhaha this is funny I think quite a few things would change. Im getting a headache.. disoreintation... bipaloarismblindness no sorry thats just the salt from all that pork.
hmm if it is magnetic feild cause by the core that means that there is a trend in core activity which would lead me to believe that the is a trend in solar system happening
anyone ever thing that the plannets are just represenations of time...
maybe the fields changed with arival of new planets or even that mysterious planet x causeing an overall change in system magnetics.
"Supposedly in many asian cultures, it is said that a child will have good luck if concieved under the northern lights. This is possibly why northern canada is a highly popular tourist destination among people from Japan."
maybe it is a power passed on for the feild engrains with the people of that land since it is japanese people concieveing of the field the field is going to them so that it can always be together.....
"I've seen comments about the poles reversing every 10,000 years.
I've seen comments about the poles reversing every 70,000 years.
I've seen comments about the poles reversing every 1,000,000 years.
Aren't we a well-educated bunch?:P"
I think its just that no one has knowingling lived over 9,999 years so no one can proove that polar flips have happened befor them since no.... well not exactly anyway to make a long story short no one has given me any definate inforation regarding actually past pollar shifts however there is eveid...tired how bout we say they happen at differing strenghts.. little ones every 10,000 years bigger ones at 70,000 and much larger ones at 1,000,000 years Im guessing we are due for the next one in less than 9 years among other things. yah I should be bored by then.
"You missed 250.000" ok there are four..
"The interval is highly non-regular. According to this article [nasa.gov] from NASA, the interval varies between 5 thousand and 50 million years. So all of the different numbers posted would be reasonable guesses for an interval (the last was about 740,000 years ago according to the same article)."
ok
set yrvar@740,000
randomize yrrand
yrvar:th * yrrand
cause magnetic shift of pole
"Some folks are concerned that the field may be in the process of failing [eurekalert.org] "
personal I think that personal feilds feed off of the planets feild so since population is increasing the field overall is weakening... a way of keeping population in check and species etc.. built into the planet is to cause shifting glaciation no sure exactly.
so maybe the feild isn't changing at all... everything else is changing..... so in that case natural boundries would be changing landwise and really the stuff wouldnt be....... I should sleep
what's a peep?
marshmellows are good except after too many. Microwaves are neat. I thought there would always be an air pocket in the microwave... isn't it used as a heating tool so why couldn't traped air be used to heat in a good no egg exploding way. like maybe adding a radar or hey a seismic "waveform thingy" like in that other science post dealing with continuous soundwaves for detecting earths... or even better just use the microwave technology and a couple sensors that would see where heat is getting through and at what rate the microwaves are moving and so on and so on then adjust the bonbardment acording to type of cook... but that would probably add like 5 bucks to the cost or something and exploding stuff is fun right. mmm ehh nhh anyway the only thing I think is in anyway inportant is "what is a peep?" I'll probably do a web search if no one answers but I thought I would try a human approach first.:) :
THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF UNCONNECTED IDEAS THAT POPED UP WHILE ReADING THE LONG CHAIN OF POSTS FOR THIS THREADING
two ideas for secure net. 1. sugar 2. secur lines
"They hired a dozen level 1's and expect the level 3's to teach them how to use unix/etc/scripts. Its a fucking joke. You wonder why it takes forever to get tech support to fix something! The top tier of people staffed are mostly UNSKILLED.....competent admins will soon become only slightly more respected than the guy who unclogs the toilet."
uhm... I don't get why would you get a human to teach a human how to use a computer.. why not get a human to teach a computer how to teach a human how to use a computer.. there is something called training software and the manual... also you can form buisness rings.. well what buisness doesn't and pool that one training file made in corel every couple weeks by one persona instead of having 10 or 15 tecs to instruction.. those tecs can then work on infrastucture building etc... playing pingpong whatever... really also that proxies idea.. having a online buffer between you know proxy server instead of proxy port having it work as an airlock simple stuff... only one end can be active at one time an you would just have to cut of encoded datasnatches not that I would have the slightest clue how they work.. I'm sure you could set up a software virtual airlock too some type of drive read partition partition wouldn't be difficult for all the smart people to make. or even two systems running on the same hardware one is virtual one is less virtual.. works in my mind. I already solved all the net hacking issues unfortunately I think people like it to be insecure... sorta. What I'm wondering is how the hell does everyone one know my join4free password?? for me when my connection doesnt work right I go through this checklist
1. shut down all viruses
2. disconnect and reconnect if it still doesn't really connect
3, decide how bad I want to use the net and if I really do restart other wise wait
4. if I still cant connect go through check list 4 times
minus step 4+
5. check various lines and hardware make sure I have connectivity with it
6. call my provider
7. problem get fixed other wise I add messed up interconnection to my list of things to get ultimate revenge for... uhm I mean just forget and take up water polo. Like isn't this thing suppose to hold up to nuclear winter and stuff I think the system should be able to handle a bunch of kids with windows xp:)a joke ahh(don't mind me its been a while)... What about an external modem connected to a cell phone and a oh nevermind....
(since @Home is dead). huh?
"My very lame ISP, AT&T Broadband, blocks my incoming port 80. What can I do to get around this?
Thanks!"
couldn't you just change your http:port? to port 81? or maybe there is a computer out there that acts a a genie type thingy you know like ask jeeves but nothing like it you know a server with software running that gets the files for you throught another protocol and sends them through another port theres a name for it I just cna't think of it right now anyway I think that the dutch should have atleast one...I think they have one of everything...... if people only listened hopefully they make a MAINN (multiuser artificial intellegence nueral network) for telephony response already its not like voice to text and text if processing doesn't exist... there's plently of motivated smart poeple out there what gives.
"RIAA and MPAA people most likely have no idea how to get there, if they even know it exists. Do you?".. sure use sugar its all run by the riaa anyway isn't it since it is them that cause the underground trading.. just like the justice system makes murderers... but really what you do is trade a mp3 with someone who wants a mp3... hard concept eh? piracy doesn't make sense when there is more free music out there than people can listen to in a lifetime. It's funny you keep the artist that charge you for their music in buisness but people got to eat. It's gets messed up when you either know or are the people that are effected by piracy.. once again why capitalism sucks!!! bigtime.. one it creates lots of senseless laws.. oh I'll get off topic so I'll just stop there. hold on I can't be biased. nevermind I'm always going to be bi-as-ed.
"roughly $.10 to $1.25 MB depending on the number of staff and quality of equipment. One user downloading several GB a month can really hurt"
had no idea the cost I thought it was much less... hmm seems expensive for a ray of light. don't they have fish systems yet.. oh two.
"....never even heard of a real ISP that supported OpenNIC zones."
I don't like the name "OpenNIC" I'm trying to quit smoking and everytime there is any reference to damn...double damn(after reading buffy post) great anyway
everything will be mine one day anyway so what people build can only help me lead a happier life final judgment and understanding will reveal all. now I just wish everyone else thought this too.
this might be off topic too if a company is rich does that mean it is overcharging its customers?
I'm still wondering when people found out my join4free password
"You have effectively DOS'd the server, and the ISP has every right to consider your actions hostile"
they have rights to consider my actions hostile when I connect but in reality they shoudn't be worrying until the icbms from central tiawan are headed for their nodes. its not like they can't build the technologies right into the modems without a need for a server by isp or anything... all it would be is a latis of factory assigned serials each modem using.. oooh thats too naughty nevermind.,, wow I'm impressed I just reinvented the internet in my mind to make it even better.. I still think non represented police state of all people as police as the way to go. anyway
what about clicking in a certain part of the microsoft startup sound thingy or deleteing your regular boot files or if your really smart making your own boot files that only you have and always carying a disk with you... or voice recognition or sound playback.. or carrying your hardrive with you or hiding it in a concealed hiding spot under your desk and replacing it with a fake drive that looks real or backing up all your sensitive data and use a cd sequence like some video games and stuff or well thats all I can think of right now
don't store anything sensitive online or connected to a sources of transmition phyiscally..
really privacy only slows society and causes division but I'm a poor ass bum with nothing to loose so I just don't care. I'm sure there are lots of people that feel they have things to "protect". Really it just casts a dark cloud when people turn society into what they fear.
Just use unkown encryption of files or access. Or mask file types or have dual file type i.e. something that is a text file when in reality a jpeg or viceversa... or have reverse binary rendering or a million other posibilities.. anyone that actually wants to hide data can. Anyone that wants to crack it might be able to but probably wont. Just envent your own system. Lots of really simple rules for security and none of them are mainstream. But it doesn't really matter its all tools for domination and power mongering. What ever happened to blind trust. Ok I trusted people with my ftp and they deleted my boot files so they killed that opertunity for everyone else. Even though anyone that wants to hack my system could in a second making it a elite server.. oh well maybe one day everyone will live in harmony and not have the need for selfish need I just hope it is before I am the last one left. Honestly it doesn't matter anymore atleat not until I get a sense of non blah to life if ever.
The picture thing seems like it might be good for kids who don't want to use a mac and might make it funner to use a computer. Also its something to keep intrest in windows and talk about for all you computer geeks(compliment):) Really just wanted to say in advance I know I'm not smarter than you and that makes me that much happier. It sucks not being really really stupid though I think actually its imposible to judge intellegence since anyone living has passed. anyway I still don't get this password and safety thing. Either I'm god or you are and either way either I win
first off I saw a couple different conversations pop off from the original about a e.coli lab culturing/testing.
Religion was one that I don't see how it got tied in. I guess some people equate evolution as anti judeochristian when really religion is a tool to explain things which cannot be explained or a replacement to that part of blind faith. Humans and human thought are based upon logic noone I know personally can explain the roots to human your and mine or just my existance which always leaves the door open for people that want religion. It is faith just like science nothing is 100% provable except for the selfs existance no matter what.(other than some human logics but that is dependant on social concepts that are just confusing but still denialble and improvable due to lack of solid base i.e. logic concepts such as math and language... iconical thought blah blah blah)anywho that was one thing I saw from the evolution stem just wondering isn't evololution the result of phyisical and psychological enviroments.. aswell as social stems from thost physical and psychological enviroments... if this is so wouldn't you have to reproduce the effects and affects of these conditions.. since the future is for the most part inpradictable? (more so as able as past is known)then wouldn't the ability to map future such happenings be imposible or atleast improvable unless of course we can map the state of timespace at several points and find a pattern. So with the bacteria having the physical changes mapped... is it posible to map more complex species or have other baterial cultures been tested aswell or is this one a fluke that under all conditions supporting survival it will have the same changes. Well I got bored of writing and its getting late hopefully someone found something in this productive. Anyway I think its neat that they recorded the state of bacteria back then down to a cell makeup level... maybe they made e. coli back then to set up the argument today...... someone also said something about maybe everything was designed or something like that.. the whole creationistic thing... duh! take a look in the mirror either yur mind or someone else..(ultimately your mind)made you...! funnel it back as far as it goes or till your head hurts and hopefully you'll either relize I don't want to take responsibility for this or you'll relize I think there for I am regardless you and I are both here just like the rest of the world I'm going to bed...
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why not get nasa envolved. Use it for early terraforming in ocean geting the area living again by getting a mix of organic lifeforms and stuff you know... also putting more restrictions on watershed etc.. might help also the department of agriculture might do some tests or something on waste water.. also better sewage systems that take sewage out of natural filtration yah tons of dollars tons of jobs maybe even have the us analysis department take care of logistics for the public works of municipalities for the projects also more regulations on watercode for boats and more rules regarding waste dumping... no one cares though. The us wouldn't even stick to kyoto because they would probably loose a $ or two when in effect the technolgies research would end up making a better managed goverment and raise education(no statistics sorry) generally make a better world. It's not like solving enviromental problems is difficult its just that people don't care until its the water theyre drinking americans are self centered and ignorant just like me and most of the rest of the world it would be nice if a seagul with a simple desiese had media publicity but instead we like playing on the same issues that 99% of people already are fully aware of and we wouldn't want to miss the gossip on the grammy's no that would make our lives so much more less fun. People are ignorant of world issues because we are taught to be because we have to maintain.. I hope it is sooner than later that the mass of society relizes our planet is dying and that if we don't kill ourselves our planets gravitation and magnetic centers are going to mess us to who knows but we are all so inclined to selfish survival needs growing into unknown power wholes. I might have maybe said some stuff that is a little exagerated or something. What I'm trying to say is that the issues can be dealt with but we(your society) is more concerned with personal greed and maitnence then it is with building a society that can progress and stregthen while not excluding. The capitalist system is one which only build an elitist society and will destroy itself. Nationallity and national boudries are just one of the barriers that we so ignorantly accept. Ownership on a personal level rather than a social level is what is and will destroy us. A strong society would deal with issues as they occur and network to solve them. The US goverment is overweighted and latent. I think I got off topic. Anyway. They should deal with posible causes aswell as future problems they also need to rehabilitate the area. The US will do ish. The great social organism of nothing with the power of so much. Selfish intrest Selfish pursuits.
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not this device maybe but it could be done with a speaker system ... but why would you silence an explostion.... say for a sabotauge type thing ... why would you use something like that anyway explosives are dangerous and expensive and non reusable why not well blah....
hmm all you would have to do is make inverse wave forms..... its not difficult.... the problem is doing it at a range of completeness either that hmm there would be a couple ways of going about it I think
noise causing fatigue??? ... I can see it being used for massage... the vibration of woofer... yummy have you ever stood infront of a really big speaker kicking out bass and lots of it... feeling is so euphoric... if you don't like the noise just put some earplugs in.... it wonderfull. Of course since sound waves are vibration I can see that they could not only be used as a fatigue device but as a instrament to build muscle mass.... hmmm... it feels really nice though.. maybe too nice but as far a fatiuge hmmm thats like saying gravity causes fatigue... oh never mind so in some minute way since more weight would be acting upon your body with forces in motion towards you I could see it that way.. anyway everything you expereince sound wise causes a psychological effect which in turn will cause the brain to have a responding physical effect so even indirectly sound could cause fatigue at the same time it could do just the oposit I know happy hard core usually gives me energy aswell as good house or techno while trance in a non party enviroment especial of the melodic type much like clasical will relax me and make me at peace.. and almost in a trance...hmm it would inderectly since sound waves are vibration in atmosphere if sound waves are heard that means sound waves are hitting you.... damn bastard how rude!!! dont mind me I think I'm getting a sense of &&&&&& again...
so why don't they use a display on the seat infront for captioning? might be expensive putting a little screen or whatever but I would solve the issue.. or even a pop up screen one that can be pivoted above the seat.... the theatre would have to be planned for this with levels though.. the new theatres like the ones in kw like the galaxy and the silvercity are big enough I would think.. also optional seating or sections could reduce cost.. just a first thought.. you could also use a light wave encoder with encoder glases... but I don't know if people would want to use the glasses... might be costly aswell... you could always have the technology integrated for equality and equal opertunities etc.. while having the glasses sold as a product seperately or have deaf orginaztions fund some type of thing with government subsidy or something... there are lots of solutions. the cheap solution would be ear canal surgery with non organic system although I'm not a doctor and I guess the operation cost would be huge and due to the specialaztion the equipment would probably be large did I mention the capatlist all for yourself community sucks... hmm ok I still do have some negativity... well I guess there will be a solution that will be good as we will "eventually" have enough idle time to solve all the worlds problems (I can only hope)
I'm probably going deaf but I just play the music louder to compensate... :) :( so I'm an idiot either I'm going to be careless really angry or happy at my new set of ears any of the three I guess I'm willing to deal with. As far as the fan goes on my amd I like the noise for the most part. I really on like silence in nature ... or when trying to be completely relaxed or not wanting to here my nephew in the mornin but I have earplugs when I need them. How can the fan cause ringing in the ears? I think I'm going to read that study. Really though due to my love of electronic music I will probably go deaf very young.
I dont' see how selective devices are dificult.. just hook it up to a boom mic :)
if you use the silence machine then maybe even the silencer wont be heard.. ... hold on why would you kill an innocent little animal :( sadistic meanie.
well I guess that's an advantage... it also aparent;y has less pages to find stuff in... I will say again I liked it. I still think that a really good metasearch engine would kill google.. hold on... well no but it would be more effective... like what would happen if all these searchengines like linked or something... and you know all their databases were combined... and like duplications were like taken away.. you know.. and each of them handled some different aspect or something and the databases.. well anyway.. I guess thats less advertising.. or maybe it would be like super bowl.. but anyway... lots of room exists for improvement but well.. anyway. Great engines though really it is impressive on the amount of data they go through atleast I think so.
I would think competition is good for the consumer as long as it keeps the feild in progress and lowers pricing aswell as increases use of said product. As far as the need for innovation in the product due to the competive nature the feild progresses aswell as becomes more available. That is if the company wasn't going to do this on their own. Its the whole concept of lets keep it fresh and new in order to keep control. There are competitors to microsoft they just arn't fighting a war to beat them(as a whole). From what I have seen of software for instance companies specialize in feild but are dependant upon ms as the point. I personally am one for monopolies since I think that they reduce waste but they have to be well managed monopolies with forward vision instead of stagnation. I am in no way saying that microsoft is non forward looking or stagnant and just the mention may lead to psychology binding so I will say again I do not think ms is non forward looking or stagnant. Instead actually it's ability to be supported and establishing the trends and compatibilities is its own perspective as to how it wants to shape the future of computing. Just think if all those other companies which arn't in anyway owned by microsoft well hold on... nevermind. All in all competition is seen as a tool for the lazy. It's like saying we arn't wanting progression and innovation at reduced cost to the consumer... no we are companies(no me I'm a bum)which increase cost to the consumer for reduced sevice and reliability... no we are not(not me)like that. The barriers of communication among large companies do not exist in a traditional sense. For instance take the music industry you have top execs switching for company to company. Really the buisness world is just like everyday life, you have nice people and you have not nice people. The trend of successful buisness is to succeed and this success is garentied(only if I could spell it). The success lays with knowing your customer, shaping your customer, and ease. Of course this is just my opinion. But the world is a odd place(only as odd as you make it). You have people with self intrest and you have people with global intrest. Plainly the world is not an effective buisness for the global person. If only self intrest became global intrest and not in a self intrest way. Hell it will be how it is I just think that it could have been and still could be a nicer place for "everyone". But hell I'm just a bum who won't do anything for myself. The whole wide world question is ....
simon says stfu and its fomo not mofo...obiviously not enough dope oh now time fo da sho down this the new one in town and he gonna put you all down.. ready now eigh *off topic but I had to drop it*
I often mess up spelling google as goggle ..not quite the same teoma makes your fingers move teoma hi and low.. google is just the top two ...
I think perhaps it is time all national borders are disolved and people put down all arms. The whole war thing is a joke. How can anyone expect peace when they are willing to fight. I personally have an easy life that is one that I don't consider it threatened. I do beleive in lead by example afterall you are the affect of your enviroment. Peace is a state of mind. When people have tolerance for one another is when there will be peace. War is a battle of everyone. It is a choice of the individual to fight. I personally think it is greater to die for your beliefs then it is to kill. I think this might be off topic though. I say it is about time that the UN exercises worldwide peacekeeping and that it is resolved to a international orginazation of the people and not the government.
congrats to Shanghai Jiao Tong University and all the other people that took place.
you never know. but with that attitude I doubt it
they seemed like nice people to me.. I just hope maybe the people I talked to weren't psyc students.. uw is a really nice uni from what I've seen of it. Has some nice student areas lots of chilling area during the nights etc.. but I haven't seen it from a student prospective. There are lots of nice people there from what I've seen though.
short summary, 1 billion can easily be justified in the eyes of law enforcement legwork. However privacy issues involved cause a hamper. This is the US antitrust against the world. They feel they have things to protect at the cost of going against other wishes. They are clearly saying how they feel and it comes across as US. The long still wanna know what a troll is... its not that ugly fur ball creature that falls into the water in willow and turns into that huge monster thingie that spits fire "Taliban and PLO communications and whatnot" but what are they going to use it on after they do a couple more holly wars... huh? who's next next thing you know its gonna be your grandmothers nursing home then they'll start the stiknine(so I spelt it wrong) injection you know first enemies then less enemies then less freinds then then .. you yes you could be next... but half a billion can't they just say.. you have brown hair lets send a bomb to your house...? are they really that clueless... thats what scares me that they have to buy a .5 billion or 1billion dollar decryption machine can't they just use those satalites and really good scented dogs?,, or just use the lightposts as fiberoptic sensors.. oh too late.. but what if they are decrypting some stuff always won't they get not bad people stuff too isn't that invasion of privacy??? not to mention in the case of cross nationalities and stuff thats like war stuff isn't it.. not only this but they're gonna get bored eventually... I suggest giving the billion to the plo taliban people yup.. then all of them won't have a reason to fight... their standards of living will all go up and then they won't have a clue what to do .. well not really but What exactly is till 1billion dollars is quite abit of money.. you could probably bribe god with that type of capital.. the catholic church does it right so why can't the goverment do it too... that price tag seems offully high though.. ... bad taste but they got insurance money don't they ..eh well 1 billion thats allot of money.. that is allot of money. and where are they getting these messages to decrypt... my guess is if they have the messages then they know who the bad people are and if they know who the bad poeple are why can't they just drug them to hell and get the information out of them the old fasioned way... playing truth or dare.. I dare you to walk down the middle of that highway naked.. ok .. I did it now I dare you to tell me all your secret plans for world domination.. its fair in love..and war.. truth and dare same diff... but I guess you are talking about saving live.. not to mentino trying out a really cool thingie.. comon imagine the guy behind that thing... he would probably feel like well ...me.. but think of all the neat things you could do with processing power like that.. you could make really really neat techno tracks.. techno track.. decode world plot to assasinate world leader.. techno track world leader.. eh the world leaders can wait lets make the techno track.. ok so its not funny I found it funny and thats all that matters... frankly I think 1 billion is a huge price tag considering that decryption will not happen to any message intended to be unreadable except by the chosen person.. the reason I know this is because I'm not that smart and I feel I could make sure a message couldn't be decrypted even by god himself... it's wasted money in my books the good part of it is the stuff that comes off of it though like the technology development and skilled thinkers out of it.. but if they have 1 billion sitting around I'm sure there is lots of well in africa to be drilled or universities that can be set up in the middle east etc... the key to safety is knowledge and not the hoarding of it but educating others educated people relize the futility of war and of killing.. also huge anger management course.. just think where the world would be if hitler or stalin was enroled in anger management courses.. ok not funny once again I find it funny and thats all that matters... can't they just use like a desktop or something.. intel should be coming out will 44ghrtz in time for next christmas shouldn't they... 1024 bit encryption... they invented encryption didn't they make the decryption at the same time like some crackpots would in bad taste say like the hiv virus.. ok eh... I gotto stop doing that.. get it all out of my system now.. ok 1024 encryption ... this note could ... can't they just guess.. if they get it right then their ment to get the message.. no.. just an idea.. I guess they can just scrap building like one destroyer or something to make up the money.. what scares me is that .. hmmm...
" Anyway, its not like crackers, with malicious intent, would go buy themselves a 1 B dollar supa-puter to intercept your midget pr0n transaction.
So quit being paranoid, and go back to jacking off to your gay beastail midget pr0n. :-P"
but what your forgetting is that my gay beastail midget pron is my code... duh.. like I need the pron to jack off to... I got my imagination...
"Anyone wanna take out Hillary Rosen? That RIAA bitch needs to go!"
we must remember hillary is not a bitch.. bill is... bad taste again.. must remember not to do that oh well.. .. can't blame em... well sure you can.. ok blame him but dont hold it against him.. sure you can... ok hold it against him blame him but don't do anything about it.. sounds good. hmm people are only human. hmm whatever
"When carrier battle groups, air wings, army divisions and the fate of nations are on the line, $1 billion for total SIGINT access is cheap indeed.
Break out those one-time key pads and pigeons, boys, the government will own your electronic crytposouls before you know it."
imposible.. it's the other way around. They break the law they are accountable. No one is above the law. They will be held accountable for any wrong they do against humanity even their warped veiw of humanity.
decrypting some elses mail is not nice to do.. if they wanted you to read it they would send it to you.. that's prejudgment of guilt or innocence.. which is not a nice thing to do. How can they expect someone else to be nice if they arn't. They who create the seeds of ill fall prey to it.. as always humans fall prey to their thoughts and imaginations if not now when least they expect it.
It's funny if your expecting people to know your secrect and everything why not make it as distastefull and boring as posible... but... lets... not .... be ... too ... boring.... wasting peoples time is plainly not a nice..... ... thing to do... why not teach whylst.. you bore... wait....I think it's lack of trust that is really not nice.. once again how are you suppose to trust if they have no trust.. having a little trust yes I can understand.. but having no trust.. that is something else entirely different// thats almost as bad as..well anyway
"It *is* a measly sum - as the email says - how many government agencies have this sort of funding? More than just a couple of US agencies that's for sure."
must be mircosoft.. ... so much bad taste so little room.. ok must be dod or some other liek oh this isn't getting posted...
"Now here's the scary part. Once they've made the $1B investment to break terrorist encryption, do you really think they'll have 420,000 encrypted messages from terrorists sitting around waiting to be cracked? No, but they're going to have to find something to crack with all those spare CPU cycles to justify their expenditure..."
ok now it makes sense... it will be made by the RIAA!!!! to stop software&music and other such copyright enfringments... if say there was 420,000 hotmail or pgp or whatever then you would probably.. uhmm no not getting posted.
"I'm sure Curly would love to sell them $1 Billion worth of Marvels, although I'm equally sure that BG will do everything he can to stop it. Just think - financial independence for Compaq could be just a contract away, and it will probably never happ "
hey that's an idea.. buy a bunch of comics or cards..hold them for a year.. then sell themm.. then that agency can buy the magic decryptor ring for free..... eh.. that's almost right up there with like investing a billion in the stock market but with comics you can almost gaurenty a investment return... ... I just think this idea is a really good one because it lets me imaging a bunch of people with rifles and uniforms putting comics into plastic sleaves with sterile gloves... ... you could even make a documentary out of it and air it on fox... that might even get a few more dollars... you could even call it project swordfish2 ... I could see it... yah I could see it...
"At this rate I think this machine should be afordable in around 5 years..."
hmm ...that made me think less costly countries ... when they get the technology if they don't already have it... what how much does it cost to make really good sand... ... or why not just have cell phones always connected to the networks and use them as processors... since everyone and their mother has a cell phone.. start up a save the nation cell campaign.. huh.. ... yah I can see it. so their might be some battery issues... or why not just buy up old computers.. and use them not only can they be sent to underprivelaged places but you could also have them backup as decryptors... or even buy somputers for all you shcools and during nighthours have them used... hmm humans sleep for how long.. how long do computers sleep... really how many unused computers are their.. how many us goverment computers sit unused how many funny... I don't mind others adding tomy music.. anyway.. why not use the investments you already have.. or integrating cost into use for more than regular use.. like lots of stuff I can think off but why not let you think about it. First of all is there a need....? Or is it the cross effects that are benificial... where is it going... 1billion super computer.. would be odd if it just sat on top of some guys desk... its probably going to need like a corner or something and you would probably have to move a fax machine or something.. so really I'm thinking you would need a facility and if you have a new facility.. it would probably either be under a shopping mall accessed through sewers or need some type of gaurd or something... so that some kid doesn't try to play quake on it. Actually you could probably get some nice multy playergames off a processor like that.. but back on topic.. the machine itself is not the only cost to consider so I would hope that they also took into account this in the pricetag... but 1 billion.. must be cause that is allot of money... like I get a $10 a week allowance and 1 billion is like... allot more than $10. theres like 00000000 more zeros... thats allot of money... actually 1000000000 it doesn't look that big when I type it out...1000000000 but still anyway... I think that lifecycle cost taken into account 1 billion works out to 10000 or less scientist salaries or doctors or others.. research generated from these professionals would... doesn't the us have like some huge national debt or something.. I know its some type of issue or something here. .so if they have a debt thats like me going out and buying new car when I have all this alamonie(so I spelt it wrong) to pay ... I had this friend who owed me like over $100 for over a year it really sucked... just another thought... hmm
"While it's not going to be on the same price curve as high-volume PC production, there are still Moore's Law effects here - the price/performance of FPGAs and ASICs keeps decreasing as technology improves, and the price of smaller-width chip design keeps improving. The real question is whether the development of this sort of machine can piggyback on other hardware development, plus how motivated is the NSA to build it as further research indicates whether or not it will be really useful..."
what about spending 1billion on a computer that will design a 1billion computer.... instead of spending the it was a good idea originally.. like the intel computers that make the chips why not funnel the billion in economic computers for next year or whatever.. and then use that older computer for olderstuff while the newer computer actually does it... ... personally I am more of a direct research type person that spending money to get people to think is a good if not better investment that getting what you know you can already have... I am also a firm beleiver in anything I can think someone can think better.. and in this case that means that well if this system is designed solely for decryption you better hope there are allot of stupid terrorist.. if there are allot of stupid terrorist then... well its not a funny matter but its almost like saying ok try better its like training them .. its like some cruel game to up stakes... its like well... people are blowing themselves to peices for their ideals.. don't you think its time to talk or something rather than just get ready to see more people die. The other thing is if well not to give ideas but I would think that any ring would already have set operating procedure and any smart ring I would think would have a rule for time in messages.. only trust in person and don't time delay your messages type policy.. the thing once agian I would hope that professionals would actually have a better system... but it seems pure off topic to this system .. I think its good they want to spend 1 billion on this but I can't see it being effectively used for decryption of sensitive messages.. I would hope that well hope not but that any sensitive data is not held in conventional methods of decryption even if it is time consuming methods. .. oh well... like I could only see this used on really stupid people... and these are the last people that I would want to see locked up because stupid people myself included are the most har...it would be more like this person is using 1024 bit encryption ok this will be fun... if you know its a message its even funnier.. its like we know this guy is sending encoded messages.. hmmmmmm... I would be more concerned with where the message is going.. and who is receiveing it.. and seeing if those people use the same anyplace that is using private messages you know wants to hide something anyone that wants to hide something is potentially an enemy.. thats my simple logic.. or rather is trying to protect something.. if it is not obvious what that is then that is when you have an issue.. when you know obviously that there is something they should be hidding then either that person or orgianzation should be very much your friend or you should have very much your friend high up... otherwise well ...
or even why not start a program to get desktops worth 1 billion to welfare and other such poeple throw in tutorials etc.. for training.. hook up highspeed lines and use the systems as extra processing power for a central system.. ... not only do you get skills training but you also get a secondary use plus you get lots of other stuff.. really I gues power cost is one thing.. but that wouldn't be an issue if people just implemented my wire the world and solar powering programms...
"How can you be very dead? Death is boolean, you're either dead or not dead."
I have a firm beleif I can't acutally die... other wise why live.... one day you may find out this not to be true but always I will believe this.. it goes along with the belief you truely know nothing other than your own existance.. of course testing this theory goes against the belif.. don't fuck yourself up too much..
More than Cowboy Neil has but if I were to really tell you I would say $1 plainly what I know only I know... what everyone else knows its the same story but in my case well ... no one ever listens to me anyway.. but no I don't think that I could ever trust someone trying to buy my information.. it would have to be a mental symbiosis really I can't put a value on something that someone can just shoot me afterword for its sort of senseless... there is no reall price .. what I don't like is all the invisble technolies being used like the robotic spider that was crawling phased on my ceiling and the invislbe men watching me.. but really.. I still wondering about that odd spider.. the organic one not the machine one thats been hanging around my house for the last couple months.. its pretty nice though and likes my coffee too well I don't actually know if it likes the coffee but I think it tired it out.. but what could someone want to buy off me they couldn't go to a few years in university for.. or less.. like highschool or even like well hmm.. all I have to say is who I am now is not who I was two years ago.. and who I am now is what matters to me and where I continue from... anyone that would actually consider buying my information would be responisble for divedends off intellectual properties if any income was garnered of 10% of net profit they would also be responsible for putting me on salary aswell as responisble for 1% net profit of any of their intellectual property. If it was a one time thing I think that it would depend but the answer would be how much are you offering.. and then yes or no...
"Anyway, we all know they've been reading our sekrit kees by telepathy for years now, right?"
but what about counter telepaths?? how are they suppose to read their keys???
"when there are more than 2^256 electrons in the universe! Which there aren't"
huh?????
I think that the only somewhat safe encryption is that not understood by anyone else other than those that need to know sorta like signlanguage.. well not really but you get the idea
"If strong AIs are developed, who knows what could be analyzed... "
If ,,, although the ai would still be dependant upon processor type and power..i.e. either neural structuring or traditional stucturing..
going back to that thing about revealing my most secret secret.. I have to say that I couldn't tell you anything that I promised someone I wouldn't...
foriegn war as a means to say we rule local domestic don't even try something.
"except in that sense you aren't gonna crack by brute-force anything even 128 bit in the next 20 years"
huh?? I would hope you have greater expectations for yourself 20 years from now.. especially with all those brain steroids and cybernetic memory plants... not to mention 98th demension gates... think more get less get more than less
"Using multiple encryption on one message may not increase the difficulty and may even lower it. Encryption algorithms are mathmatical formula so this example will suffice even though it may be simplistic. Say you have two encryption algorithms F(x)=8x and G(x)=x*x*x. You may think that by combining the two would make it more difficult to find x but F(G(x))=(2x)*(2x)*(2x) or 2x cubed which is as difficult as G(x) by itself. But say instead of G(x) you used H(x)=x/8 which would simply decrypt x to it's original value. In short to be able to combine encryption algorithms you have to know what they do and even then there is no garuntee that you're not introducing new holes"
whats H's value... I don't know about you but my simple math skills say that you can't find a numeric value if there are more than one non numeric value you would still have... hold on.. really the values can represent a bunch of things... but none is prooveable simple algebra is simple regardless all it is is isolation.... nevermind... ok here's a new hole non logical coding... or exclusive keys that are not based upon binary representations such as hyroglphics or the like iconography and only having one instance each esentially a new language for each message but each language has traits of previous languages and the key to traits lays with well boring stuff but anything that can be encountered in many cases but there are probably better systems.. I personally think seperate languages.. like those secret hand jestures the president use.. but say like military training for instance having a 1 or two year course for groups that use their own specialized language like learning spanish... but having spanish german etc.. so developement of new language groups for specialized that way even if the simple logics of breaking codes exist then you still have to break the cultural context... etc.. etc.. which is just the tip of the iceberg for a truely secretive society.. but why... why hide ideas we all have the same goal. and it would be so much easier reached together in cooperation.... I guess ultimately it will be cooperation regardless just not necisarilily conventional
slashdot teaches you so much stuff that if you went nowhere else on the net you would learn stuff from elsewhere on the net(a compliment intended)
"Making up your own crypto is almost always a really bad idea."
for who?
"The reason why increasing the key size is so much more efficient is that by increasing the key by only a single bit, you double the number of possible keys."
wouldn't you more than double?
"I certainly am getting sick of the "tabloid news style" that Slashdot is using lately."
Arn't all the tabloids telling the truth? I thought they were... I'll tell you if I'm just kidding around..
as far as tabloids I see slashdot as informative yet not boring as hell(minus myself of course)j/k.... hmmm I'll have to convert each post to an essay aswell ..j/k....(j/k)
"$10 billion worth of data "
better not be web accessable hell better not be accesable... security is so simple how can there honestly be a threat.. security=secure... secure=non-accessable non-accessable=secure
"...lets you steal all of Visa "
how many slots are there.... how many names are their?.... when was registry for numberslots of type... what are registry dates etc... carding I would think would be a simple task but its not a nice thing to do. but honestly I don't know how to myself
I just want to know who owns the damn phase mechanic spider
"if you were a government agency with $1b to invest in some kind of anti-terrorist encryption breaking scheme, would you invest it in this or would you invest it in quantum computing research?"
ever heard the phrase don't put all your eggs in one basket... I wouldn't buy the basket.... but I woudn't drop the eggs either I would probably make an omlet or just scambled eggs or if I was feeling really nice I would probably give the eggs to other people if they were hungry... both or neither honestly if it works it works if they both get your desired result then what advantages does one have over another.. from what I know about quantum computing it sounds like it can handle complex mathematics on a much faster basis than conventional systems.. I don't know the limits of quantum computing or the limits of what is available for 1billion... honestly I don't think that using a 1billion dollar system for one use exclusively is a good idea but I would say no clue.. whatever works best... I personally don't think I could design the system they are planning for either the quantum or the regular... so I have no clue... whatever does the most for technology progression ease of use and other stuff like facility size personel required building time cost trust issues etc.. I don't think that the system is needed for terrorist*.... reasons though. just politely ask.. are you plotting to kill so and so or .. bomb so and so.. or smugle this and such.. if they don't tell you .. then well you can't hold it against them.. if they do something then... I guess they did it...I guess thats against the whole national security thing though.. then again I'm not employed by the NSA so.. I would consider upgradeability etc.. and use after lifespan.. what is the point.. either they have well I guess there is the whole toy philosophy aswell ... I guess do as much as you can ... but the whole idea of the volume of messages to be sorted... the only way I could see it humanly posible is to actually use keywords etc.. which could miss huge chunks of data... I guess this is pestimistic but it would seem that either your going to be able to get information through simple means or the people will be using advanced means... the whole thing is like putting reinforced doors on the aircraft... it just makes it that much more difficult.. it can still be done and anyone wanting to plan it can plan it.. so I guess the whole concept to this system would be cutting out lower rings etc.. while the more advanced rings minus corperate ones would be reduced to military oposition... and it would be difficult to hide them unless they were extremely well engineered... so the 1billion investment would be to threaten ... they would get their money out of it..... either system whicheverone works ....
"When it comes to terrorism, encryption really isn't the main problem. Identifying, isolating and eliminating causes (be they philosophies -- such as a desire for complete theocratic control -- or individual people) is."
i.e. reverse social engineering....
"The real issue is control. Governments in general seek to expand their control, just look at how many laws we have now, compared to a few hundred years ago. The government can't control what it doesn't know about, thus it desires to know everything. The maddening thing is, some people have the audacity to encode their communication with a cypher that's very hard to break. The government knows there must be something interesting in those messages, but they don't know what. What's a billion dollars compared with the knowledge (and associated power) that comes from reading those tidbits."
This goes back to the philosophy that if they wanted you to know they would tell you... how rude.. it's not like I'm innocent of never snooping through someone else stuff.. for instance the end result of years of snooping resulted in my skull being accidentally smashed into a door being kicked down... resulting concosive force cause my nose to bleed and my skull to warp.. life hasn't been the same since.. my skull is still dented but what I am trying to say is... don't bite the no thats not it.. why not just ask and if not respect their wishes... I don't like the idea of my protector being my watcher too.. or rather that reminds me more of say a dictatorship.. holdon... oh yah don't piss of the people that run the world.. must remember this.. *elitist state* coug coug... but what the hell can you do right... just be a good little boy and everything will be ok...but in my eyes the goverment already does a terible job at representing the wide populas and for the most part is non-visioned and to conflicted.. basically it's not doing an effective job... but hell I'm not the one hell I'm a bum... what the hell do I know... oh well
"For a time in writing my own webforum software I considered doing login passwords as a file upload of a key file. The problem here though is that you send them a file to decrypt and they can spend as long as they want pawing at the file, and eventually brute it out. It's the model of sending someone a file that they decrypt that's broken - not that key length"
set a limit for logins.... just like this message will self destruct.. or time encoding.. but I got no clue how that would be done.. what I do know is anything I can think can be done though... sorta like the attempts at one time downloading etc... of the RIAA type stuff thingies.. reall the RIAA is interesting to see what they come up with... huh?
"Unless they crack your head..."
my head is dented or cracked in two places that I know off.. yes more useless information peole don't need to know
What does factoring have to do with rendering, or, for that matter, chess?
factoring could have representaions into processing strength.. I think anyway... with software on board a processor or utilasation in processor based network intellegence designes you could have fast reponses... thats a way I tie it in... when you think solving algorythms I think speed when I think speed I think processing.. just because this one would be specific... anyway thats how I see it...I havn't looked at how factoring works on a system outside of regular processing... sure I'll read something about it sometime soon..
"If you have something to protect that is worth $1bn for someone to steal and the only protection you have on it is 1024-bit crypto, you deserve to have it stolen. "
stealing is not a nice thing to do.
"I feel it's more likely they have finally realized what people on Slashdot have said hundereds of times in the past: Encryption above 128 bit is readily available to anyone who searches for it, export restrictions will not stop it.
What do you think?"
I think a human can get anything it knows exists if it wants to.. its just how bad they want it..
interesting my monitor is acting...
"If your enemy is a major government and you don't have a very large budget yourself, you might as well give up now, IMHO. Not because I think they could factor 4096-bit RSA, but because I think they probably can get into your house without you knowing about it and tap your keyboard. The only time an attack like this wouldn't be called for is if the danger (to life, to diplomatic relations, whatever) of their being discovered is worth the money they'd have to spend on a more sophisticated attack."
that would be b&e and that is not nice. Not nice people must deal with their not niceties... and if I was to attack a goverment agency they wouldn't know it... their concealment by the ultra obvious and their is the reversal for all time.. people are people... I feel I understand logical existance I feel I understand science.. since I understand these two things I am able to account for all logical posibilities and because of this know that anything is posible...
"32 bits isn't centuries; its about 45 years if Moore's law keep up, but RSA is much weaker than that in fact, so an extra 32 bit might only be 5-10 years."
what about ashley's law.. anything you know about someone else has probably already made and if not.. well
maybe I'm just missing something but what's so hard about brute forcing a large key.. the complexity doesn't seem there how many pobilities how many systems.. how many attempts... but I guess there is something I'm missing..
"The non-conspiracy argument that I've heard makes a lot of sense to me, at least. US government believes that E-Commerce is going to be big. US Government notes that US retailers can export lots of goods to other countries if e-commerce is enabled. US Government notes, exports==good. US Government realises, people outside the US need to be able to communicate securely with companies inside the states in order to perform such transactions. US Government allows export of strong crypto, giving US a world lead in e-commerce market.
Money is almost always a better explanation for the actions of Americans than malice."
it's not posible. atleast as far as conventional logic states... you can cut out the amount of people that can do it but you cannot erase it... no technology that can be created is uncounterable... the difficulty is a different matter.. but even when dealing with say forgery and impersonation.. with skill such as voice alteration surgeries etc... aswell as advanced set ups and skilled individuals anything is posible but off course your talking about skilled groups... with personal resource.. of course ties in the whole technology push verses maintaing training etc... we are holding ourselves back but in fear.. I guess its just cause I'm mad and have already got to concensus in my life that I feel I will always be because I cannot account for the logic in ending so because of this I can only place hope in that all things will be good in the end. I can only hope that everyone else feels this way sometime other wise I could be very lonely. The other way just doesn't matter.
"If I remember correctly, there is a section in Applied Cryptography where Schneier calculates that the sun going nova would not provide enough energy to flip through every combination of 256 bits, never mind actually testing them to see if they decrypt the message. So yes, 1024 bit symmetric encryption will be secure from brute force attack for quite some time, at least until we start building black hole powered computers and feed entire galaxies into them."
does the blackhole contain more energy than a supernova? I thought that a blackhole was the result of the destuction of many stars or rather colistion... so it would be spent energy forming a lactice of negative forces orrather a tear in the regular .. well baiscally highly dense concentration of base matter... or maybe it is an alien camo.. ... the thing though if my concept on inverse realities or opostion realities exists then you can have any amount of energy needed as long as it is reversed in the oposition reality it would still hold things at a balance but I'm not a physisict(hell I can't even spell it)
"polynomial factoring algorithm does not exist."
You got to be kidding, whats so difficult about polyniminal factoring?
"Of course, your love letters are copyrighted by you, so... Yeah, NSA will be liable to you for the market value of your love letters."
The market value is not predetermined. The potential for profit from anything is altered by any action that comprimises that copyright... so the love letters etc.. Deemed priceless would hold the NSA liable for well... everything. Plainly they may think they have buisness snooping but really they don't but who am I hell I'm not even american. I guess I just believe all things will be accounted for in the end. People have to live with all their choices forever. I guess people have this whole power thing going on. There appears to be bad guys etc.. But I take things on a person to person basis. WTF is up with this world.
"like the topic says... Shouldn't we be spending the money on more useful things rather then trying to prove 1024bit keys can be cracked? We know they can with enough horesepower."
Hell thats what shearbear and napster are for arn't they?
I just write like this no one would waste all their time reading this I hope.. So if I write one little thing on one page in war & peace...
"This is the kind of story that could get huge exposure in "normal" news if there's nothing better to show. Just imagine the headlines: "Internet banking no longer safe"" "Anyone can steal your money when you shop online!" And noone would have an idea what's really going on.
"
yet another reason why the capitalist system is flawed.
""jan? khlaz tuirt'kah dar gangan Mbou!""
"third door to the left make sure you flush after using,:"
OK, I'm not saying that one can simply go off and invent a perfect language in a coupla weeks, but look at the pseudo-languages like Elvish, Klingon and whatnot. Ideas, criticisms, reactions??
I had this same idea if you read earlier.. But what you are forgetting is if in the case of privacy you must no stick to known course say for instance if I were to use musical scales and frequecy ranges etc.. To send messages as a language unless you have the score first you would have to have an ear or proper mesuring devices etc... for instance morse code is rythmic dots and dashes etc.. You could apply one type of messaging to one instrament sound or frequecny it would get to the point instead of being a visual representation it would be a audio representation although it would be a highly advance language... anyway I like the idea but I think it would take some time I think you have the right idea... of course spoken languages can be picked up by other people that are able to learn... its definately a way of keeping people out of the loop I was over at this dutch families place some years back.. I sware dutch hurts if you only speak english and try to follow a conversation.
"Plus of course, if someone is holding a cattleprod to your crown jewels and you're standing in a bucket of water, it doesn't *really* matter whether u used gazillion-bit keys anyway..."
Sure it does cause you can tell them anything you want.. And there is no way of them nowing unless they can crack the code... but I did find it funny
"There is another problem with this idea. Namely, languages are easier to analyze than mathematical cryptosystems, for a number of reasons.
Languages are believed to have "deep structures", which are common to all languages. This would mean that you could figure out the nouns and verbs and such in the language with a bit of work.
Even without these deep structures, you will eventually come up with a list of words, and you can then use conventional information theory to attach meanings to those words. (ie. you notice some words occur more often just before some action.) "
so now you know what not to do if you are making your own :"secret language.. Now you just need to use alien thought .. Thats not hard now is it... but as far as words etc.. What about using mathematical scientific etc.. Meaning size descriptions changes in reality representations... so this far this way etc.. Within 3d space having each demension in represnetion forces vibration sound smell etc.. The emotion envolved is a separate issue and would be conveyed in the actual representation of the language....
LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGG We always do this kind of work in May. We need frozen conditions so that we can land an airplane anywhere on ice or snow, but not so cold that it is impossible to work outdoors," Newitt said. what no funding.. the us can think up a mars observer to travel thousands of miles in space only to crash but they can't fund scientist studying our own magnetic axis? No offence meant to NASA in anyway since I'm sure that the mars surveyor etc... and I'm not a rocket scientist so I'll say they know what they are doing better than me but anyway why don't they take the human need out of the study? they made hover boards in 1960 didn't they... there might be a problem with that but hope everyone who actually reads understands what I am trying to say. It's doesn't make sense that magnetic poles don't have effects on humans.. there are personal gravamagnetic if that is the world for every object and any fields when in contact which one another will have an effect I think but I'm not even a highschool graduate and don't really know phsyics but if the feilds nuture the human body and cell growth etc.. cellular mitosis and repairs etc then the poles stronger field would have an effect on the growth of cells I would think but I guess CNN would know better so I thought I would atleast speak my mind and get the educated peoples to correct my errors in thought. "Most, if not all, topographic maps have the difference between True north and magnetic north noted on them. This is so that people navigating by compass don't get lost. If the magnetic pole is moving that fast, then the maps are going to have to be updated much more frequently." topography changes constantly with the tectonic plates anyway the magnetic pole I believe is just the planetary inter solar system cross effect which is made by system to system feilds and the oh I know nothing but the geographic north and the magnetic north as outlined are two seperate points ... since the planet is not a perfect sphere there isn't a true north anyway atleast one point that is always there actually everything is in contstant motion at every moment on all levels the solar system is moving the planet is moving the fields that we are locked in are constantly changing not only this but we are also chaning the wieghting of the planet or distribution on both a natural and artificial level but really every thing is well everything is at a consant(posibly) and we know that there is movement on a teretrial and interterestrial level.. we(I) do not know if it is a patern however it could be though we tend to see things as cyclic when in fact we can never actually know because we can't account for all time and never can. Simple logics are used however cause it brings order oh Im getting way off topic anyway I think its neat that the pole is changing however what I'm wondering if it is effected by the polar ice glaciers melting and altering the weight distribution since the water mooves to the equatorial regions I think Im not sure about that but an object spinning I would think that the stuff would go to the central point like a bucket spun over your head filled with water. So if the magnetic center is shifting then that would mean that the axis is shifting force oh thats gravity isn't it not magnetics oh nevermind.
"You and your inbred, half-wit family suck ass!!"
uhm all families are imbred Imbreading is just a social stigma.. which I have but anyway..
"movement has always been unpredictable"
nothing is unpredictable you just need points of refernace (and lots of coffee..not really but I'm trying to start trying to be funny)
I also wanted to say... isn't there many magnetic feilds... and points of higher magnetics.. aswell as minerals.. maybe the siberians are building large stockpiles of cobalt nuclear weapons which is changing the feild or the metal gnomes like magnetic goelms are building a huge underground labrotory to do expreiments on the caputure morlocks... uhh or it could just be that the magnetic lightning rods are changing places such as the mining in sudbury and depletion of the nickle.. nickle is magnetic right... so mabye the change in mangetic grounders is causeing the field to shift so that human gorging of the planet is causing gaia to flya toward siberia or maybe its the huge secrect weapons project on that island off of the coast of japan that godzilla was originally from and that the nuclearmagnetic nutreano bombs(mortars) are causing a feild ripple which is sucking the axis closer to the detonation point...
"also, you can make a compass [thinkquest.org] using a bowl of still water, a blade of grass, and a small sliver of ferrous metal. (like the hand of a watch) "
you watched that movie too?
what I don't get is how do people actually get lost? and why you would need to use orientation to go places don't they have roads everywhere now.
"Those without electricity to run GPS devices."
solar/windup/baterypacks
"Suppose that your batteries run down, or your generator breaks down, or the GPS device you're using doesn't have a hand crank. I bet you'd really like to know the difference between true north and magnetic north right about then. " Sun moon constelations
"Suppose the U.S. goes to war in the near future with a country who is not vastly overwhelmed by our military might. If I was in charge of a war effort in such a country, (China for example, which may happen depending on how we handle the 'War on Terrorism'), I would make a point of using missiles to eliminate the network of GPS sattellites in order to confuse and confound my enemies."
hahahhhhahhahha war... war doesn't exist anymore only political support people can kill whoever they want now adays .. that is unless something is self contained and unkown or in space behind the moon. If I was leader of a country invade by a force I couldn't beat I would say here you win and at the same time tell my underground and trusted people to start plotting the 6999 year long guerilla war effort after poisoning there water supplies by having immagration infiltrate their civil dependancies etc.. etc.. but I don't beleive in killing or war it doesn't exist only nice people and mean people exist now honestly If I wanted I could destory every government in the world but thats not a nice thing to do. Just that smart people tend to know that anything is posible and smarter people know not to let people know your smart and the smartest people well I got no clue. Down the list less smart poeple think they know smart and smarter and the smartest people while really not smart people relize that itellegence and smartness doesn't exist just a really fucked up reality so why not have another. its funny how people can believe in something they can't prove and have no facts about just assumption or propagation lifes funny that way sometimes.
"And in response to the grandparent of this post, good luck hitting any LEO satellite with a missle. That's like trying to shoot a fly at 5000 yards with a .44. Talk about a feat! A more effective anti-satellite weapon would probably be a railgun (a real railgun) capable of hurling millions of particles of dust sized shrapnel at insane speeds in the general vacinity of the target satellite -- if they'd ever finish the development of the weapon.."
why take out a satelitte??? what the point I don't want to threaten national or gto type powers but it should be obvious the redudancy
"The GPS was consistently off by at least 30 meters. That may not sound like a lot, but when you are calling for direct fire, 30 meters is the difference between wiping out the enemy and wiping out your squad or platoon"
why wouldn't you just use laser designation in ranges that close(dual point) not sure if the technology exist yet but its that one that sends the signal to the target then you send the signal to the aircraft with the tool as the way point etc.. the relation in x1,y1 x2,y2 x3,y4
either that or throw a grenade or a mortal or let loose with a rapid fire weapon or a canister of gas or use your snipers to hit them with tranquilizes or just put up a white flag or have one unarmed persona walk there under guise or not that is ofcourse if opostion isn't on shoot to kill orders or something really war sucks and is outdated even at risk of someone actually reading this and being in the military .. it is the military that causes the worlds problems that and buisness of selfish intrest since the military states I will kill for what I beleive and selfish buisness states the survival of the buisness outweighs all else.. really the last people that I should in anyway be attacking but I'm not as smart as them(I thought of a joke of parlay) but I guess the world isn't a perfect place and these are the people that aparently are protecting societies intrest and I have no proof either way since I have proof of nothing.
the us has no buisness with china.. china in asia us in north america pacific ocean between internatinal dateline I wish everyone would just say ok this is the world ideal from now on and get on with it then you know do that social progression thing you know the ultimate representation of social powers forming the concept for social progression .. it takes a bigstrong man to say I'm the leader it takes a bigger man to say ok your the leader and still lead.(I'm sure something will make sense eventually)
"No, its us humans doing it. We're destroying the environment, and now were causing the poles to move at unprecedented rates,"
I personally think its microsoft windows xp causes huge magnetic shifts in the space time continu um.
"Just think if we got a big'ol solid block of steel hoovering over it. Everybody run! The Pole is comming, the pole is comming!!! "
just think that in the early period of the earth it was encased in a metalic shell cause by compression of hydrogen and that the origianl megnetic field is just a overlaying representaion of some of those effect.. not really but really
"What happens when it is daytime, cloudy or you are in a light saturated location? Even if you can see it, it is impractical if you are traveling soley by compass. I do a lot of sailing and I can tell you, Polaris is not very useful unless for celestial navigation."
landmarks and nightplotting using lowlight goggles or flares or a really strong flashlight... acutally... hmmm
what about using tectonic indicators or airflow and and radio or even radio waves... yah radio waves... anywave really as long as it is not disrupted by something else
"sorry, when I say "traveling soley by compass" I really mean a situation where you cannot see properly and use an instrument for direction finding. It would not be practical to do this because every time one would need to change direction slightly they would have to orient themselves with polaris as a reference."
you should when lost in the woods and people know your out hug a tree(you should make sure it is a really sexy tree though otherwise you might feel unfullfilled)if no one knows your out then start walking in a strait line leaving broken tree brances as you go(unless you are an enviromentalist)if you hit a river or stream follow the stream if you are somewhere really really big .. your screwed(you can always take up dandrofelia) unless you are a survivalist or something and in that case just build a log cabin and start your own tool and dye operation set up a trasistor thingy make your own company to rival intell and make a species of robot intellegence thingies to do your biddings..
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"there are things that a compass can do (gasp!) that gps can't, like taking bearings off of other objects to figure out what they are on the map and the inverse, plotting courses from the map and sighting them to the real world."
I can understand what your saying but cross referencing a few different databases and a handheld navagation tool can replace the maps really cost effectiveness is another issue but if you can teach someone how to point something or how to point something .... I think that since computer technologies are becoming more engrained in society the progression of applications may be on par now but with more proding will excede traditional methods. So essentially it will be more usefull although cost with our current social barriers will hinder true freedom of technology aswell as strong training methods
"and then there's the whole nature/tech separation which is the whole reason people go outside in the first place, to get away from the gadgets. i don't even like tripping with my watch"
I can see what your saying but I don't get it personally I like the outdoors to be with nature what the difference between a technological compas and a microcomputer? its all psychological but I guess thats cool whatever you enjoy right I like the birds the smell and the tranquility especially lakes lakes are really nice. personally it is the pairing of the best aspects of technology with the peace of nature. I think that we will go full circle however to the point where technology will no be seen but we will live with nature
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"GPS units can tell you your position with great accuracy, but they don't tell you which way north (or any other direction) is. To do that, you need a compass." I'm suprised that there isn't autocompases built into gps.. you know reading the thingie and showing it jsut like gps but it has an arrow saying north.. or an arrow saying south.. etc... or hell you could even do all of the directions... eh?
or just use multipoint gps refrenceing with a point location stating which ones are where which would allow you to determine north and south just simple math stuff I would think I could be wrong though
"I'd probably be bored of canada after a few eons too. "- how rude! "THough I hear the beer is good."- forgiven
"One of his favorite examples was that people don't understand gravity, and they don't understand magnetism, so UFOs must be powered by gravity engines."
actually I thought ufo's were made from electro magnetic cores and use a slingshot and energy collection and dispurtion system.. really simple cores I still dont get interstellar flight thought and how they travel between systems I'm guessing that another system is used although ever since 1967 its been phased out by reality warps that is altering the position in the space continu um. efectively teleproting
"Or the paranoid delusion that an invisible, omnipotent man is watching you whilst you engage in the process of expelling feces. "
that was just unfair to add to my warped sense of reality.. thanks..
"Though it has nothing to do with magnetic poles, it is true that sperm production in the testes can be aided by cooler temperatures."
Hmm I thought a body temerature had to be maintained thats why the scrotum retracts closer to the body when cold is encountered... your not trying to do the equivelant of press ctrl-alt-del to win the million dollars thing for people wanting to procreate are you?
For some reason I feel like this is some vast plot to lure candians to warmer weather...
"Blame Cananada!
by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, @01:00PM (#3195011)
"thirty+ million people"
You call that a country? Down here we call that California.
Sheesh, we kill more people with drunk drivers every year than that!
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Re:Blame Cananada!
by lposeidon (jpg_biker&hotmail,com) on Wednesday March 20, @03:37PM (#3196045)
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callifornia??? hell thats sound more like los angeles. or there aboot.
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Lizard "Never let them set limits on your mind!" >bastards100 "
I'm starting to think cities are just alien projects to see how many mad persons you can pack into a tight density well not really mmm nevermind
"So, if the north pole is shifting that far, that fast... will the Canadian children see any change in Santa's normal delivery schedule? I can only assume he'd be a little later than normal, seeing as how Siberia is quite a flight from Northern Canada."
your right we might have to redraft rocky and bul.. can't spell it but you know who I'm talkin about to save the day uhj no.. hmm ehh
I think Ive wathced too much mike bullard :_)
"In fact, Santa doesn't live at North Pole at all, but in Finnish Lapland [santatelevision.com]. How he manages to deliver all those toys in one night is a mystery, but I doubt it would be affected much by his physical starting point anyway since he must move pretty fast."
maybe he's using the same alien space folding technology.. my parents told me santa isn't real and that I got presents cause they love me ...is this true or were they lying to me..?
"The pole does not move in more traditional manets, but the earyth's liquid core might provide an answer."
I thought the earths core was a mini star like all the otehr planets or read a gas core... really just a concentration of nucleaur unergy that is the depostis of what was left when the solar pangea broke apart the ones that were smaller stars burnt themselves out faster leaving dead stars the planets have been cooling since which is what caused the cores to start solidifying or cause rocks etc... when the liqud core cooled when the heat disapated it cause a air or rather magnaouseus core to be formed.. later in the case of earth a super condensed asperoid which was almsot entirely hydrogen also a cooled star hit earth causing the hydroshield to be formed in space... which was actually hydrogen which oh nevermind
"How, exactly, can the North Pole drift northward?
Seems like it would be more accurate to say that Siberia is drifting northward and North America is drifting southward.
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS NOW! At this rate, North America will be South America, environmentalists will be warning about the dangers we face when the Jamaican ice sheets collapse, and Australia will be located somewhere near the moon."
most of the plates are drifting to the northern axel eventually it will all connect again its the way that our solar system is in relation to others we are drifting north.. eventually our axis will shift .. bigtime
"And concerning climate the magnetic field is not important (only a bit maybe because it affects how solar winds hit earth)."
what about interplanetary magnetics causing shifts in the rotation route around the sun a slight variation cause by change in planetary magnetics would shift this minutely because of how the magnetic feilds are interconecting.. eh eh .. never thought about that one did ya remember elnino... ehhhh I'm smarter than you are I'm smarter than you are nan nanann nan na na .. you suck YOU SUCK !!!! hahahha hahhaha yoi.. I don't know what happened... j/k eh? we can still be friends can't we :))/ big j/k
thats it eureka... santa uses magnetic fields to travel the earth so quickly... its all so obvious he has the speical ability to use magnetic curents actually he can turnhimself into a magnetic current aswell and the sleigh he uses is made of cobalt which is what radiated the reindeer in that area with the ability to fly aswell... it all makes sence.. its becomeing more and more clear...
"ouch. i bet you had dreams of +5 Funny. swing and a miss."
loop
ouch. i bet you had dreams of +5 Funny. swing and a miss.
end loop
maybe it is breakup of ices which house mineral contents
etc..
"15 seconds of Google research will tell you that the pole reversal is thought to take 1000 years or so to complete. So it's not like you'll wake up some morning and magnetic North will suddenly be South."
I thought it was dependant upon globabl warming or rather the melting of the polar icecaps caused by ozone depletion and sheilding waterlevels etc.. rising cauing change in distribution also nuclear testing etc... also for the sake of green peace and not done in really really bad taste but atleast to raise awarness so even though I may be any way lets just say it aresol and whaling.. yup also sealing and mistreatment of foreign natinionals in lower tenesee.
"Or Maybe that's what really killed off the dinosaurs."
we are the dinasaurs(in my best mstical voice).. over many generations and interpbreading with monkeys.. don't ask anyway....
"Oh come on, the magnetic field doesn't block high energy particles, it only deflects them. So a particle that was going to hit you doesn't hit you, and a particle that *wasn't* going to hit you *does* hit you. It's pretty useless overall."
but if it diverts entire particle streams then the effect would be much more .. really I know nothing
"huge numbers of particles now enter the Earth's magnetosheath (atmosphere, etc.)."
what those sent by satalites....L:_)
"It takes a heck of a lot of radiation to cause total sterility. As long as that hasn't happened, the race can continue under conditions of extra solar radiation, but it won't be pleasant (and could lead to extra mutations, and thus the possible creation of more human races.)"
yah but now we have cloning.. its all a plot to have all humans born out of area51part8(the genetics center) when radiation gets high enough we won't be able to have kids and when this happens a51p8 will be able to control human kind(thats another story completely)anyway it has to do with sun micro and packard bell aswella s the ascii-white comptuer systems... a. gore was against the plots so the hybrid aliens controling the reasearch project and eventual domination project rigged the elections and overthrew the remaining human supreme court judges...
"(Obviously some individuals would survive since it has happened before and most existing species has already survived it at least once.)"
not necisarily.... I think that unless it causes a change in the upper earth feilds strato etc.. and innerspace then people on the iss would survive... but the effects hmmm regardless I will survive everything and there is no way you can prove me wrong.. atleast to my face.
"Re:that's not bad "
hahhahhaha this is funny I think quite a few things would change. Im getting a headache.. disoreintation... bipaloarismblindness no sorry thats just the salt from all that pork.
hmm if it is magnetic feild cause by the core that means that there is a trend in core activity which would lead me to believe that the is a trend in solar system happening
anyone ever thing that the plannets are just represenations of time...
maybe the fields changed with arival of new planets or even that mysterious planet x causeing an overall change in system magnetics.
"Supposedly in many asian cultures, it is said that a child will have good luck if concieved under the northern lights. This is possibly why northern canada is a highly popular tourist destination among people from Japan."
maybe it is a power passed on for the feild engrains with the people of that land since it is japanese people concieveing of the field the field is going to them so that it can always be together.....
"I've seen comments about the poles reversing every 10,000 years.
I've seen comments about the poles reversing every 70,000 years.
I've seen comments about the poles reversing every 1,000,000 years.
Aren't we a well-educated bunch? :P"
I think its just that no one has knowingling lived over 9,999 years so no one can proove that polar flips have happened befor them since no .... well not exactly anyway to make a long story short no one has given me any definate inforation regarding actually past pollar shifts however there is eveid...tired how bout we say they happen at differing strenghts.. little ones every 10,000 years bigger ones at 70,000 and much larger ones at 1,000,000 years Im guessing we are due for the next one in less than 9 years among other things. yah I should be bored by then.
"You missed 250.000" ok there are four..
"The interval is highly non-regular. According to this article [nasa.gov] from NASA, the interval varies between 5 thousand and 50 million years. So all of the different numbers posted would be reasonable guesses for an interval (the last was about 740,000 years ago according to the same article)."
ok
set yrvar@740,000
randomize yrrand
yrvar:th * yrrand
cause magnetic shift of pole
"Some folks are concerned that the field may be in the process of failing [eurekalert.org] "
personal I think that personal feilds feed off of the planets feild so since population is increasing the field overall is weakening ... a way of keeping population in check and species etc.. built into the planet is to cause shifting glaciation no sure exactly.
so maybe the feild isn't changing at all... everything else is changing..... so in that case natural boundries would be changing landwise and really the stuff wouldnt be....... I should sleep
what's a peep? marshmellows are good except after too many. Microwaves are neat. I thought there would always be an air pocket in the microwave ... isn't it used as a heating tool so why couldn't traped air be used to heat in a good no egg exploding way. like maybe adding a radar or hey a seismic "waveform thingy" like in that other science post dealing with continuous soundwaves for detecting earths ... or even better just use the microwave technology and a couple sensors that would see where heat is getting through and at what rate the microwaves are moving and so on and so on then adjust the bonbardment acording to type of cook... but that would probably add like 5 bucks to the cost or something and exploding stuff is fun right. mmm ehh nhh anyway the only thing I think is in anyway inportant is "what is a peep?" I'll probably do a web search if no one answers but I thought I would try a human approach first. :) :
THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF UNCONNECTED IDEAS THAT POPED UP WHILE ReADING THE LONG CHAIN OF POSTS FOR THIS THREADING two ideas for secure net. 1. sugar 2. secur lines "They hired a dozen level 1's and expect the level 3's to teach them how to use unix/etc/scripts. Its a fucking joke. You wonder why it takes forever to get tech support to fix something! The top tier of people staffed are mostly UNSKILLED... ..competent admins will soon become only slightly more respected than the guy who unclogs the toilet."
uhm... I don't get why would you get a human to teach a human how to use a computer.. why not get a human to teach a computer how to teach a human how to use a computer.. there is something called training software and the manual... also you can form buisness rings.. well what buisness doesn't and pool that one training file made in corel every couple weeks by one persona instead of having 10 or 15 tecs to instruction.. those tecs can then work on infrastucture building etc... playing pingpong whatever... really also that proxies idea.. having a online buffer between you know proxy server instead of proxy port having it work as an airlock simple stuff... only one end can be active at one time an you would just have to cut of encoded datasnatches not that I would have the slightest clue how they work .. I'm sure you could set up a software virtual airlock too some type of drive read partition partition wouldn't be difficult for all the smart people to make. or even two systems running on the same hardware one is virtual one is less virtual.. works in my mind. I already solved all the net hacking issues unfortunately I think people like it to be insecure... sorta. What I'm wondering is how the hell does everyone one know my join4free password?? for me when my connection doesnt work right I go through this checklist
1. shut down all viruses
2. disconnect and reconnect if it still doesn't really connect
3, decide how bad I want to use the net and if I really do restart other wise wait
4. if I still cant connect go through check list 4 times
minus step 4+
5. check various lines and hardware make sure I have connectivity with it
6. call my provider
7. problem get fixed other wise I add messed up interconnection to my list of things to get ultimate revenge for... uhm I mean just forget and take up water polo. Like isn't this thing suppose to hold up to nuclear winter and stuff I think the system should be able to handle a bunch of kids with windows xp :)a joke ahh(don't mind me its been a while)... What about an external modem connected to a cell phone and a oh nevermind....
(since @Home is dead). huh?
"My very lame ISP, AT&T Broadband, blocks my incoming port 80. What can I do to get around this?
Thanks!"
couldn't you just change your http:port? to port 81? or maybe there is a computer out there that acts a a genie type thingy you know like ask jeeves but nothing like it you know a server with software running that gets the files for you throught another protocol and sends them through another port theres a name for it I just cna't think of it right now anyway I think that the dutch should have atleast one.. .I think they have one of everything...... if people only listened hopefully they make a MAINN (multiuser artificial intellegence nueral network) for telephony response already its not like voice to text and text if processing doesn't exist... there's plently of motivated smart poeple out there what gives.
"RIAA and MPAA people most likely have no idea how to get there, if they even know it exists. Do you?" .. sure use sugar its all run by the riaa anyway isn't it since it is them that cause the underground trading.. just like the justice system makes murderers... but really what you do is trade a mp3 with someone who wants a mp3... hard concept eh? piracy doesn't make sense when there is more free music out there than people can listen to in a lifetime. It's funny you keep the artist that charge you for their music in buisness but people got to eat. It's gets messed up when you either know or are the people that are effected by piracy.. once again why capitalism sucks!!! bigtime .. one it creates lots of senseless laws.. oh I'll get off topic so I'll just stop there. hold on I can't be biased. nevermind I'm always going to be bi-as-ed.
"roughly $.10 to $1.25 MB depending on the number of staff and quality of equipment. One user downloading several GB a month can really hurt"
had no idea the cost I thought it was much less... hmm seems expensive for a ray of light. don't they have fish systems yet.. oh two.
"....never even heard of a real ISP that supported OpenNIC zones."
I don't like the name "OpenNIC" I'm trying to quit smoking and everytime there is any reference to damn...double damn(after reading buffy post) great anyway
everything will be mine one day anyway so what people build can only help me lead a happier life final judgment and understanding will reveal all. now I just wish everyone else thought this too.
this might be off topic too if a company is rich does that mean it is overcharging its customers?
I'm still wondering when people found out my join4free password
"You have effectively DOS'd the server, and the ISP has every right to consider your actions hostile"
they have rights to consider my actions hostile when I connect but in reality they shoudn't be worrying until the icbms from central tiawan are headed for their nodes. its not like they can't build the technologies right into the modems without a need for a server by isp or anything... all it would be is a latis of factory assigned serials each modem using .. oooh thats too naughty nevermind.,, wow I'm impressed I just reinvented the internet in my mind to make it even better .. I still think non represented police state of all people as police as the way to go. anyway
what about clicking in a certain part of the microsoft startup sound thingy or deleteing your regular boot files or if your really smart making your own boot files that only you have and always carying a disk with you... or voice recognition or sound playback .. or carrying your hardrive with you or hiding it in a concealed hiding spot under your desk and replacing it with a fake drive that looks real or backing up all your sensitive data and use a cd sequence like some video games and stuff or well thats all I can think of right now
don't store anything sensitive online or connected to a sources of transmition phyiscally ..
really privacy only slows society and causes division but I'm a poor ass bum with nothing to loose so I just don't care. I'm sure there are lots of people that feel they have things to "protect". Really it just casts a dark cloud when people turn society into what they fear.
Just use unkown encryption of files or access. Or mask file types or have dual file type i.e. something that is a text file when in reality a jpeg or viceversa... or have reverse binary rendering or a million other posibilities.. anyone that actually wants to hide data can. Anyone that wants to crack it might be able to but probably wont. Just envent your own system. Lots of really simple rules for security and none of them are mainstream. But it doesn't really matter its all tools for domination and power mongering. What ever happened to blind trust. Ok I trusted people with my ftp and they deleted my boot files so they killed that opertunity for everyone else. Even though anyone that wants to hack my system could in a second making it a elite server.. oh well maybe one day everyone will live in harmony and not have the need for selfish need I just hope it is before I am the last one left. Honestly it doesn't matter anymore atleat not until I get a sense of non blah to life if ever.
The picture thing seems like it might be good for kids who don't want to use a mac and might make it funner to use a computer. Also its something to keep intrest in windows and talk about for all you computer geeks(compliment):) Really just wanted to say in advance I know I'm not smarter than you and that makes me that much happier. It sucks not being really really stupid though I think actually its imposible to judge intellegence since anyone living has passed. anyway I still don't get this password and safety thing. Either I'm god or you are and either way either I win
first off I saw a couple different conversations pop off from the original about a e.coli lab culturing/testing. Religion was one that I don't see how it got tied in. I guess some people equate evolution as anti judeochristian when really religion is a tool to explain things which cannot be explained or a replacement to that part of blind faith. Humans and human thought are based upon logic noone I know personally can explain the roots to human your and mine or just my existance which always leaves the door open for people that want religion. It is faith just like science nothing is 100% provable except for the selfs existance no matter what.(other than some human logics but that is dependant on social concepts that are just confusing but still denialble and improvable due to lack of solid base i.e. logic concepts such as math and language... iconical thought blah blah blah)anywho that was one thing I saw from the evolution stem just wondering isn't evololution the result of phyisical and psychological enviroments.. aswell as social stems from thost physical and psychological enviroments... if this is so wouldn't you have to reproduce the effects and affects of these conditions.. since the future is for the most part inpradictable? (more so as able as past is known)then wouldn't the ability to map future such happenings be imposible or atleast improvable unless of course we can map the state of timespace at several points and find a pattern. So with the bacteria having the physical changes mapped ... is it posible to map more complex species or have other baterial cultures been tested aswell or is this one a fluke that under all conditions supporting survival it will have the same changes. Well I got bored of writing and its getting late hopefully someone found something in this productive. Anyway I think its neat that they recorded the state of bacteria back then down to a cell makeup level... maybe they made e. coli back then to set up the argument today...... someone also said something about maybe everything was designed or something like that.. the whole creationistic thing... duh! take a look in the mirror either yur mind or someone else..(ultimately your mind)made you...! funnel it back as far as it goes or till your head hurts and hopefully you'll either relize I don't want to take responsibility for this or you'll relize I think there for I am regardless you and I are both here just like the rest of the world I'm going to bed...
why not get nasa envolved. Use it for early terraforming in ocean geting the area living again by getting a mix of organic lifeforms and stuff you know... also putting more restrictions on watershed etc.. might help also the department of agriculture might do some tests or something on waste water.. also better sewage systems that take sewage out of natural filtration yah tons of dollars tons of jobs maybe even have the us analysis department take care of logistics for the public works of municipalities for the projects also more regulations on watercode for boats and more rules regarding waste dumping... no one cares though. The us wouldn't even stick to kyoto because they would probably loose a $ or two when in effect the technolgies research would end up making a better managed goverment and raise education(no statistics sorry) generally make a better world. It's not like solving enviromental problems is difficult its just that people don't care until its the water theyre drinking americans are self centered and ignorant just like me and most of the rest of the world it would be nice if a seagul with a simple desiese had media publicity but instead we like playing on the same issues that 99% of people already are fully aware of and we wouldn't want to miss the gossip on the grammy's no that would make our lives so much more less fun. People are ignorant of world issues because we are taught to be because we have to maintain.. I hope it is sooner than later that the mass of society relizes our planet is dying and that if we don't kill ourselves our planets gravitation and magnetic centers are going to mess us to who knows but we are all so inclined to selfish survival needs growing into unknown power wholes. I might have maybe said some stuff that is a little exagerated or something. What I'm trying to say is that the issues can be dealt with but we(your society) is more concerned with personal greed and maitnence then it is with building a society that can progress and stregthen while not excluding. The capitalist system is one which only build an elitist society and will destroy itself. Nationallity and national boudries are just one of the barriers that we so ignorantly accept. Ownership on a personal level rather than a social level is what is and will destroy us. A strong society would deal with issues as they occur and network to solve them. The US goverment is overweighted and latent. I think I got off topic. Anyway. They should deal with posible causes aswell as future problems they also need to rehabilitate the area. The US will do ish. The great social organism of nothing with the power of so much. Selfish intrest Selfish pursuits.