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Teoma Aims To Kill Google
gwernol writes: "SFGate.com has an interesting article on the relaunch of Teoma's search engine. They are trying to topple Google as the leading search engine. If their technology delivers on its promise then it will at least be some real competition for Google which can only be a good thing."
As slong as copernic (www.copernic.com) updates, i dont really care which searching is winning the war because copernic does em all :D
Search em all at the same time using this client.
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according to Teoma, yzedf garners zero hits.
with Google, 111.
ah well, think i will stick with Google.
While it seems fast and fairly relevent in the few searches I did. It doesn't have nearly the features of Google. There is not toolbar that I could find, no groups or images searches. Google is most certainly more that just a basic search engine these days!
Normal people worry me!
I was a beta tester for this search engine ... rewarded beta testers with a gift certificate at amazon.com. I wasn't all that impressed to be honest. It was fast but the result-set produced wasn't anything spectacular, and the new search features they added were of the "cute and fuzzy" variety. Nothing that would really yield much productivity. They added an associated topics section, and some visual cues to get to information, but given the choice between that and Google, I'd choose Google any day.
Great Lirpa joke. Topple Google. A bit obvious, though.
So Teoma is basically the Kia of the search-engine industry no?
"I only speak the truth"
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The consensus of users on my site when we posted this article was that Teoma will be great for less than net-savvy users, for more intelligent searchers Google is light years ahead of the rest.
Even if it is as good as google, its still not going to kill it. Google is the search engine everyone knows and loves. Unless this engine comes out with some great feature like reading your mind instead of you needing to type, It's not gona take away too much of google's traffic.
Hacker Media
Its about time. I currently use both google and webcrawler for most of my web searching. It'll be good to have another engine comperable to google to go for a second opinion. Are they going to do the same thing google is doing, and let companies pay to have their pages come up in results more frequently than others? Hopefully it won't, but lets be realistic, these companies need to make a lot of money just to stay afloat now-a-days.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
I got all excited and went to test it out. Based on my unscientific and arbitrary dozen or so tests of obscure literary phrases, rare medical conditions, and *not* so famous dead people google gave me much more relevant pages every time. Hmm... I don't care how it is supposed to function theoretically, if it doesn't provide results then I'm sticking to google.
for instance... try "news for nerds" in teoma. Should be a no-brainer. Slashdot. In google it's #1. Then, I tried "prairie dogz" (an online comic my friend does) No useful returns in teoma. Google gives it as first too results.
I don't know if it's teoma's limited search pool, or whether it's the search engine itself that's to blame, but I don't see it beating google in the near future.
It'll be a while before this Teoma thing can topple Google.
First of all, no cache. The cache in Google sort of sneaks up on you in its usefulness.. Whether it's because the website is down or because you're looking at an html version of a PDF or word document, you find that you're using the cache all the time.
More to the point though, how friggin slow is Teoma? I hope it's due to relative newness or something, because it's frightfully slow when running queries. Google flies, click search and the page comes back next to instantly (on a broadband connection anyhow), Teoma seems to be taking several seconds right now. I'd say Slashdot effect, considering where we are, but what kind of poorly designed search engine crumbles under the slashdot effect?
I am BelDion's
But they don't index my site, so they don't earn my seal of approval. ;)
Omnes arx vestrum sunt adiuncta nobis.
Even better, try Half-Empty where anyone can post a story, and (so far) haven't tried any lame AFJ's.
From the Teoma search page:
"Teoma delivers three types of search results Web Pages: Authoritative sites relevant to your search term. Web Pages by Topic: Top result pages are grouped based on their topics. Experts' Links: Pages contain directories of links for related general subjects."
Okay, great... but where's the "advanced search" option (such as Google's, at this page)? I know this is a "beta version" of the Teoma site; maybe their advanced search functionality isn't ready for prime time just yet. Or, maybe I've got it all wrong... do they believe their engine is good enough to eliminate the need for advanced search functionality?
Also of potential interest are a couple of links at the bottom of each search results page. These links let you try your search on AskJeeves.com or DirectHit.com. As I understand it, they're gunning for Google as their biggest competition, but it seems somewhat odd that they'd include links to what most people (at least people I know) consider to be inferior search engines instead.
Just a couple of thoughts
How is Teoma attached to ask.com (ask jeeves)? When you get search results all the results are linked to this server: http://tm.wc.ask.com/ Did ask.com buy out teoma?
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Because of timezones, the earliest April Fools can done in Tonga (GMT+13), and the latest April Fools can be done in American Samoa (GMT-11).
Assuming that you use EST = GMT-5 (slashdot's timezone if you're an AC) then this gives the worldwide range of March 31 6:00am to April 2 5:59am. Effectively 48 hours.
Let face it. Just how good a searchengine is technically is only part of the story. The other part is how much advertising, cookies, links to 'buy a book about whatever on amazon' and all that will they throw at you? You get the idea. This is imho what killed off altavista and loads of other search engines. If people get annoyed enough, are thrown into a portal, or just plain have to wait too long for all that crap to load, they just won't go there.
If they don't get that right, Google has little to fear.
If they want to challenge Google, they have a long way to go.
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I tried to send them an e-mail using the links on the "Contact Us" page to no avail! Kept getting "user not known here" errors. Better keep it in beta a little longer!
Reasons why anyone should use Teoma over Google:
1) if they don't cave into the demands of the Co$ and delist sites whose outlook on Co$ is less than positive.
2) if they don't refuse adverts on a very arbitrary basis: they refused non-positive Co$ ads, as well as ads from businesses that sell night vision scopes (and not firearms.)
see:
http://www.politechbot.com/p-03325.html - google rejects ads from Co$ critics
http://www.politechbot.com/p-03260.html
google rejects ads from firearm-related merchant, accepts SPAM-WARE advertiser.
Gee, thanks google!
Hey funny guy, how long are you going to recycle the same lame joke?
I think I would need a more compelling, as well as practical reason to switch. Even if Teoma didn't give in to CoS, I'd be more interested in which search engine could find me the more relevant results that I'm after. I think the bulk of Slashdotters will concur that politics in search engines is a distant second, if that.
Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know.
Google has to win because it looks better, and feels like a search engine that escaped from supermario world.
How many search engines do you know of that cater to Swedish Chefs? http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/
Do a search for C# and get pages on C++ and C, google used to have this problem. Not a huge deal, just being picky
Ok i tried my search - jungle mp3 download - on teoma and google. teoma returned one artists page with downloads, emusic.com (like mp3.com i think), then shoutcast.com.
ahem.
Google returned a pretty cool german site with loads of stuff, and about 10 pages of similarly useful links.
No question about it in my opinion, not to mention the excellent newsgroup and image searching.
jeffcapeshop
If I type in my last name in google, the first result on page one is my page on Elfwood. I like that.
On teoma, I used to get lesbian porn as a first resulst, now I get a listing of cheap Rio hotels, with a link to elfwood somewhere down there...Guess wich search engine is the Big Big Winner in my little subjective test.
As far as I can tell, teoma breaks down my name into separate words it uses in its search, while google first gives results for the whole word and THEN list resulst for broken down versions of my name, the lesbian porn and hotels are still listed by google, but ranked much lower, as they should be.
You can't take the sky from me...
Yeah lets see to trump google they deffiantly are gonna need some start up capitol and some extra features. google employs the largest cluster of machines to provided its sites and store its data base on what is most used to be terrabytes and may pettabytes by now. its gonna take some time.. if its not an April fools joke.
Why are we wasting time talking about this search engine now? It launches at 5:00 PM Pacific time Monday. At that point, we'll be able to make useful comparisons to Google.
I'm generally "Interesting," "Insightful," and even "Funny" here. What the hell happens to me at parties?
If people start to support them, then Google will see it as a threat and then we'll see some healthy competition going... ;)
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From first inspection, it seems to rank pages higher if their
I reckon this would be well, quite easy to hack.. Hmm.
stuff
...you would have read this: "Teoma -- a Gaelic term for "expert" -- lacked the financial resources to mount a serious challenge to Google until Gerasoulis and the other co-owners agreed to sell their Piscataway, N.J.-based company to Emeryville-based Ask Jeeves for $4.4 million last year."
but Teoma doesn't have a h4x0r mode like Google.
Let's see how the search engines stack up:
1. Searching on my real name.
When I search on my real name on both Google and Teoma, my personal web page comes up as the first hit. Furthermore, on both google and teoma, 70% of the hits on the first page directly relate to me, although tenoma has a duplicate link.
Both engines preform well in this test.
2. Searching for a handle.
I have used the handle Pathwalker for years - let's see how well it shows up:
On this test, Google Lists my webpage on the first screen of hits. Teoma on the other hand lists a lot of mystical mumbo-jumbo about finding your path in life; none of the info on ME which I am looking for and care about.
Google wins this test hands down.
3. Email searching
Many of my e-mail addresses have contained the string hungerf3 - let's see how many times each search engine can find this:
Google finds 1470 hits of that string, all of which appear to relate to me, and of which it considers 21 important.
Teoma, on the other hand finds only 13, but they all appear to be of generally high quality.
Still, google wins this test as well through the sheer amount of information related to me which it can dig up!
Overall, one test was tied, and Google won the others. While Teoma appears to be a good search engine, it just doesn't have enough information about me in it. If they fix this, then I might start using it more...
If you have not seen it www.vivisimo.com is a search aggregator. It takes results from multiple search engines, and put them in a folder structure. If you have not seen it please take a look. Larzgold
After trying Teoma, I have to say it's at a distinct disadvantage here. Hmmm...
Teoma: Have at you!
Google: You are indeed brave, sir knight, but the fight is mine.
Teoma: Oh, had enough, eh?
Google: Look, you stupid bastard; you've got no arms left!
Teoma: Yes I have!
Is there a site with "News for Nerds With IQs Above 50" I can visit?
So they give different results. Good. If every search engine gave the same results, there wouldn't be any need for more than one. For example: Yahoo! or Google for searches?
Besides, this is still just a beta. No use in discrediting it until it's out of beta.
Withdrawal before climax is very ineffective and those who try this are usually called "parents."
Still under development, but seems to work well. Sometimes it even finds what you are looking for before you ask!
...oh, it's true? Curses for living in a +6 time zone!
then it will at least be some real competition for Google which can only be a good thing
Unless they split a market which can't support two similar search engines, then both go out of business and we're stuck with nothing.
1. no direct links, all results are filtered via ask.com. If I wanted to go to ask.com I'd damn well go there. the mudged links are rude to put it lightly.
2. no "Related" pages search.
3. VERY limited database with no cache
4. goofy javascript on page. search engines should be as simple as possible.
my $.02...
Bugs Bunny was right.
Heh, thought the subject would be appropriate. Teoma looks to be a very very worthy opponent for Google. Just as a test I searched for Bill Gates on both search engines, and Teoma returned more "Microsoft Sucks"-esque pages. Go Teoma!
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-"Kill one... to warn a hundred..."
They charge for submitting a URL. $30.00US for the first one. That could impeed on the search engine's success.
m l
References:
http://static.wc.ask.com/docs/addjeeves/Submit.ht
http://ask.ineedhits.com/
Remember the year 2000? They promised us flying cars. They delivered the PT Cruiser...
Teoma went down to 'frisco. They was lookin' for eyes & minds to steal. They were in a bind 'cause they were way behind, and they was willin' to make a deal, when they came across this engine servin' up those webpages nice and hot. Teoma jumped up on a silicon stump and said, "Boy, let me tell you what. I guess you didn't know it but I'm a search engine, too. And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you. Now, you return a pretty good search, boy, but give Teoma their due. I'll bet a RAM Disk of gold against your soul, 'cause I think I'm better than you." The engine said, "My name's Google, and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet, and you're gonna regret, 'cause I'm the best that's ever been."
Comon'Google, raise up your cache and kick some ass, 'cause hell's broke loose in searches.
Teomahe deals the terms of agreement. "And if you win you get this shiny RAM Disk made of gold. But if you lose, Teoma gets your archive whole."
Teoma opened up their HD case and said, "I'll start this show." And seached "fire flew from his fingertips" and returned "The Path of The Arcane.". boy they indexed slow. Their ram made an evil hiss, a new seach missed and by the phrase resulted this: "The Path of The Arcane."
When Teoma finished, Google said, "Well, you're pretty good, you face-lifted son, but sit down in that chair right there and let me show you how it's done.
Seachin for releavance, go chache go. Returned "The Devil Went Down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band" oh oh oh , Feelin Lucky in the first search just go. Google, does your site bite? No, man, no.
Teoma bowed their head because they knew they'd been beat. And they laid that golden RAM on the ground at Google's feet. Google said, "Teoma, just come on back if you ever want to try again. 'Cause I told you once, you son of a gun, I'm the best that's ever been."
- Moral of the story? It takes a second rate search engine to bring doubt, before we fully appreciate the term: "In google we trust", which, surprisingly was found on google, but not Teoma.
-YoGrark
Canadian Bred with American Buttering
Okay, fine, they're allegedly going to bring out the Google-killing version tomorrow (News for April Fools, Stuff that makes for a really good laugh).
The real question is, are they going to get rid of that lame, butt-ugly logo that just screams "cheap knockoff"?
Also, in my profoundly unscientific survey of two friends on AIM, neither of them were able to correctly recall the name Teoma. Just because it means something cool doesn't mean that it will actually be a cool name...
Meghan
Ask me about LOOM(TM).
...or at least it's not JUST about the technology.
One of the things that's so great about Google is that they're focussed on delivering an honest and useful service.
The Google screen is not crapped up with a lot of extraneous garbage, they don't do pop-behinds or plant millions of cookies on you, the listings appear to be honest, and, most astonishing of all, the sponsored links only appear when I'm actually searching for the sponsored stuff and are actually relevant to my search.
Google has done a fine job at rescuing the Deja News database after Deja apparently got taken over by marketeers.
And the interesting thing is that Google makes money at it.
Now, so far Teoma's screen is clean and Google-like. And they don't plant cookies or run ads. I don't know what Teoma's core values are like, so I don't know whether the similarity of approach reflects a similarity of values or whether they're just, well, imitating Google.
But talk of "killing Google" does not impress me. I've noticed that whenever companies focus on their competition, they are very apt to lose sight of their customers.
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Netcraft Survay
Why the hell would they switch from FreeBSD to Windows 2000?
Buying a Dell computer is equivalent to dropping the soap in a prison shower.
The thing that i find anoying is that hte y ask for cash to submit a URL.. now with google you can submit one for free, hell at least your listed. I don;t much care how far up the chart my site is, it's very specialized and gets good ratings anyway, but at least you'd think this company would like to provide a better service(see:at least they have what your looking for)so that more people will use it(see:more trafic means more AD $$$)i'll stick with Google thank you very much....
Just Limin' Mon
Here's a Google Cache of the site
:)
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I have evaluated a hit as relevant if it contains information related to the question asked. General information about Greece, or about the nutrient value of artichokes (but not containing specific info as to their vitamin content), I did not count as relevant. Pretty subjective, of course.
Query (relevant hits of top 5)
Google Teoma
Religious Intolerance by the Greek Orthodox Church
5 2(1)
Nethack 3.4 Spoilers
5 0
Vitamin Content of Artichokes
4 0
Average Velocity of Asteroids
4 0
Who won the peloponnesian war?(2)
5 5
Samuel Handelman Columbia University(5)
2 0
Harry Noller University of California Santa Cruz
4 4
Edward Dratz University of Montana Bozeman
5 3
Dangers associated with mercury thermometers
2 0
Did Turing have any children?
0 0
okay
Autobiography of Alen Turing(3)
5 2
Isaac Asimov's Middle Name(4)
3 2
Anyway, my time is up. avg. 50 seconds to run and squint at each query.
Subjectively, to all of these querries, the #1 hit on google contained the answer to my question (the EXACT vitamin content of artichokes, the NAME of the side that won the war,) while Tacoma, even though the hits were relevant to the question, it was not clear if the information I sought was actually in the returned result; except for my former faculty advisor and his colleague, which Teoma found just fine.
(1) I'm counting the Scientology hit as relevant.
(2) Google corrected my spelling, which Tacoma did not. I'll accept that from a Beta.
(3) Turing didn't write one. It was a trick question. Any link to a review, specifically, of either any of three (that I found) biographies of Alan Turing I counted as a hit.
(4) I didn't get his middle name, but it turns out he wrote a story called "Middle Name" which swamped the results. Google found specific references to the story, whilest Teoma returned links to lists of Asimov's fiction, but I generously scored both as hits.
(5) when I put my name in quotes Tacoma University either a) cannot find any matches or b) doesn't understand what the quotes mean. I assume b since none of the hits it finds without quotes mention me.
Anyway, I'm satisfied in calling that statistical signifance (95% chance) that google is better.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
So I run Teoma searches for Everything, Everything 2, and E2. None of them finds the site I'm looking for. On the other hand, Google searches for Everything, Everything 2, and E2 leave me Feeling Lucky.
Nathan, this is unacceptable.
Will I retire or break 10K?
While this is only a beta...
This thing still seems kinds slow for a small database.
How will it do when there's 2g pages to skim? Also, if this thing's so great, how come Ask Jeeves isn't using it on ask.com?
I've used Google forever, and it's just gotten better, and faster.
-twb
maybe this will do in the mean time...
until they start having furry little creatures on the opening page, i'll stick with google, thank you very much
Well, I type meself in and nuthin returns. I got 40 hits on Google. Hell, my name is plastered all over the University I work for, so you figure they woulda crawled at least that much. It is slow for such a small database too.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
With the Google toolbar http://toolbar.google.com/ and Vivisimo http://vivisimo.com/ as my home page, I really don't spend time on anything else.
-- Without the right to carry and use self-defence tools, we effectively have no right to life.
There are already many posts on how results returned to queries were not relevant. I'll second that! My simple search was putting Kondara and review into the search engine. 79 re-sluts (not results folks) were provided. Almost all were from the same site, on a completely different Linux distribution. Sad.
I know it's an IE thing right now, but the Google Toolbar is one of the more useful browser addons ever.
As an experiment, for a week, I turned off the address bar and used the Google toolbar for everything. I was really impressed by the results.
Turning the address bar into a search engine is a great idea, one that Google should think about enhancing. If done right, a Google Address bar could make the current DNS system much less important, and that's just a start. There are a lot of possibilities with a setup like this.
In the end, I turned the Address bar back on to get an idea of what site I was on at the moment, it's easy to lose track without the URL line. However, I did not get rid of the toolbar, and I use it daily.
Why would any /. reader approve of teoma.com's search results! When clearly a search for news for nerds results in NO link to slashdot. No wonder we slashdot readers prefer google. Google gives slashdot.org as the number one result for news for nerds!
Just a thought....
Check out mozilla. The address bar _is_ a google search engine :)
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Google's searches are faster. unless that changes, google will get my patronage. And if Teomas slowness is from slashdotting, than they is no way in hell that they can compete with google.
Maskirovka
It's good to see something new but Google is delivering searches better for me.
An example. I was searching for a MS-Windows 2000 rawrite.exe, what I was looking for came on 4th place with Google:
http://ntrawrite.sourceforge.net/
11th place with Teoma. Before that eleventh came all short of not closely related 'garbage' that didn't give me rawrite for win2k. Google system works right most of the times for me.
Teoma is sluggish, but that can be fixed with money.
Google just has a lot of kickass features than Teoma doesn't have. USENet back to 1980, built in translation for certain languages, cacheing, etc. If Teoma wants to compete, it's going to have to match or beat those features. Maybe even translate all those DAMN pages in Japanese i've been trying to get to. Ploos yoo can poot Google-a in Bork. Bork bork bork!
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I wrote the above, but I don't understand the mod.
Asking Jeeves the question posed by the OP ["Did ask.com buy out teoma?"] would have been funny. If only because it prominently returns this helpful link:
This result might also be viewed as funny, in that it partly refutes this claim that Ask Jeeves is considered by most an "inferior search engine." Looks to me like it can handle hasty questions from five-digit Slashbots just fine.
...no really what's your real business strategy.
Jaysyn
There is a war going on for your mind.
I've noticed that if you type in "http://..." into the Google toolbar you get taken directly to that page (you can also get this by typing "www..." and clicking the clover), which, now that I think about it, does render the address bar almost useless (though it is nice to see what site you're on). The "up one level on this website" is extremely useful, and I like the added options in the right-click menu: cached snapshot of this page, similar pages, and backward links.
Also, with IE 4+, I think it's possible to use the address bar as a search engine, but you have to wade through menus to get to choose Google, and then you get a Microsoft-ized version of Google in that "Explorer Bar". I personally don't like it.
Teoma will have to go a long way before challenging Google. Right now Google can be used to find maps, addresses, phone numbers,
If this isn't an April Fools then I don't know what is.....
Schools of economic thought seem to be 30-50 years long, and people from the same niche often make the same assumptions. The Microsoft anit-trust case and the anti-Microsoft attitude of /. go hand-in-hand, as so we assume that competition is always a good thing.
/. too because I like their product, they're non-profit ideals and the outlay of time and money it requires by its operators.
I don't think Google makes an awfully large amount of profit. Slashdot has documented Google's recent advertising changes, but this has been putting paid links to the side of the users search query. Google has never considered including pay-for-ranking positioning in their search results which is a stance of integrity.
I like the service Google provides, and it's actually one of the few sites where I don't mind seeing a banner ad. I have always hated Slashdot's banner ads because they're often bright and/or animated at a fast pace. Very irritating. But I support
Competition in an industry that does not generate a large profit in this case is bad. Google has always been admirable for their service, and the introduction of new product from another source can only and will hurt Google.
Google is very good. Competition is not always a good thing.
Blah, my name is spelled J?n instead of Jón... Hello?! the internet doesn't stop at USofA borders!
I would think that software developers would have a clue by now!
J.
It's funny that Teoma has trouble defining its own identity. So, are you guys a search engine or a gambling casino? At least the users get to pick what they like most.
I wish them best of luck. Google is good now. What is to keep it from selling out like Yahoo is doing now? Competition is good. Now, I wish Teoma had a news archive.
-- Stanislav Shalunov
Inserting tongue slightly in cheek:
;-)
I searched on keywords that represent products that I sell on-line. In each and every case, my page was #1 on the list.
I suppose this may change when they go "live and in color", tomorrow... but, for now, I can live with it
-Eldurbarn
With web sites in constant flux, where the hell is Teoma's caching function? I find lots of sites are down (or more often, changed) when I search for them on Google, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see the content. Google's cache function allows me to see expired content (sometimes the answer to what I was looking for) quite easily and QUICKLY.
Here's my simple study. I type in words at each search engine, and look at how many results I get. I rank them in order of most to least results, and I've put my (sometimes comical) comments below the results from each query.
;-). No, really, AllTheWeb has its uses. Its a techie search engine with lots of neat advanced features, and I love the FTP / MP3 search options.
QUERY 1: LESBIAN
AltaVista: 29,176,797
Google: 11,600,000
WiseNut: 8,282,738
AllTheWeb: 1,166,487
Teoma: 442,000
Congrats to the pervs at AltaVista for having nearly 30 million results on "lesbian"! The jack-offs at Google come in a distant second at nearly 12 million results on Lesbians. Nice job to the occasional wankers at WiseNut on their 8-million results. AllTheWeb? Only 1 million results? Don't you guys jack off at all? What right does a search engine have to call itself AllTheWeb if they only get 1 million results on a query for "lesbian"? Teoma gets the "nice try" pat on the back. Grow some nuts, Teoma, then come back and play with the big boys.
Now, lets try something a little bit more sparse.
QUERY 2: Michael Jordan.
AltaVista: 27,980,822
Google: 1,320,000
Teoma: 245,000
AllTheWeb: 205,054
WiseNut: 72,998
Again, AltaVista comes out on top at 28 million. This is questionable, but probably accurate. AltaVista has really indiscriminate searching technology, and doesn't try to eliminate redundant or very similar pages (or subpages) like Google does. But, strictly by the numbers, again, Google comes in a distant second at 1.3 million. Teoma actually comes in somewhat respectibally this time at 2.5 hundred thousand; still, its not in the same league as Google or AltaVista. AllTheWeb again comes up short and dissapointing, especially given its name. Guys, don't call your engine AllTheWeb if it only returns 1/4 as many results as does Google! WiseNut apparently isn't too wise at only 72 thousand results for MJ. Come on guys, get with it. MJ's may have been retired for 2 years, but he's still big news.
On to something a bit more obscure:
QUERY 3: Leilani Rios
For those of you who don't know, Leilani Rios is a stripper who was kicked off her run team for stripping to pay her way through college. What BS. This is a recent development; so this query sort of tests for how updated the search engines are.
Google: 1,870
AllTheWeb: 723
AltaVista: 567
WiseNut: 426
Teoma: 74
Well, I can hardly say this is surprising. AltaVista (~600) is finally dethroned, Google revealed as king (~2k). While I'm here, I should eat some crow for earlier criticisms of AllTheWeb (~700). Perhaps they don't deserve the title AllTheWeb, but 723 results on this query isn't bad. Still, not even half of what Google returned. WiseNut again occupies the low mediocrity position with 426 results. Teoma...Teoma Teoma Teoma, coming in with a sorry 74 results. Come on guys, this is recent news, but its also big news. The girl was in PlayBoy magazine for christ sake! Again, Teoma, spend some time growing up, grow some balls. Then come back and play with the big boys.
In the interests of fairness, I'll do another query for a person who recently became news.
QUERY 4: Katie Sierra
AltaVista: 68,416
Google: 37,200
AllTheWeb: 25,447
WiseNut: 21,184
Teoma: 4,740
Welp, AltaVista's back on top again at 68k, though I doubt the validity of it. Remember, AV doesn't sort out very similar pages, as does Google. Google comes in second at 37k. AllTheWeb, again, not bad, though certainly not "all the web" at 25k. WiseNut again comes in on the short side of mediocracy. Teoma...welp, you're beginning to see the pattern. Come on guys, this is sorry. I might find more results than that for Katie Sierra by just searching slashdot! (;-).
Next is a personal query for a website of mine that's minor and unfinished:
QUERY 5: "Here is a listing of links to several sites that either argue against"
I used quotes this time because I'm specifically seeing if these search engines will produce a result for my web page (or one with those exact words, if any other has those exact words).
Google: 1
AllTheWeb: 1
Others: 0
Welp, what can I say? Google/AllTheWeb apparently appreciates even my trivial, marginal, unfinished thoughts. How dare AltaVista, WiseNut, and Teoma not have my trivial unfinished web page catalogued! No, just joking. I didn't really expect any search engine to have my page in it. But Google/AllTheWeb gave me a pleasant, ego-stroking surprise. This was what really impressed me with Google/AllTheWeb. What actually happened is I forgot about my web site (that is, its address) and typed in "pessimistic views" at Google(then today at AllTheWeb)...the first web page listed looked familiar and I wondered why until I realized it was a page I created years ago. Kudos to Google and AllTheWeb for including the "little guy".
Well, that's it. You guys get the picture. Google is still king. AltaVista does a good job at faking it, but we all know that AV doesn't distinguish well between duplicate or very similar pages. AllTheWeb, impressive, but certainly not all of the web. WiseNut, I've never heard of before, but you did half-ass. Teoma...you came in 2nd in ONE category. Not even 1st. But, not being on the bottom rung just didn't feel right to you. Feel good to be back home? Here's my preferences for search engines and why:
1. Google. Provides a lotta search results, well organized, and many great features.
2. AllTheWeb. Before I discovered Google, you were my girl, but now your just my whore
3. AltaVista. AV, though I'm sure you have (metaphorically speaking) fake breasts and a pushup braw, I still have a fond spot for you. Before I discovered AllTheWeb and Google, you were my girl. But now your more like the ex-wife who keeps on nagging me. AltaVista's kinda the thing I goto when I'm feeling nostalgic for my first car. Not really much use, but still got a little soft spot for ya.
4. WiseNut. Never heard of this search engine before and there's obviously a reason for that. WiseNut seems to be, to me, the very definition of mediocracy. I'll keep an eye on you and see if anything good comes of you, but I'm about as hopeful for that as I am that Enron execs will be found "innocent".
5. Teoma. Well, you did pretty shitty in every category. But you've got an excuse -- your the new kid on the block. The 16-year old girl who's mouth is so small you can't quite take in a whole . No, seriously. Teoma has some potential. I like the way I get fast results, and I like the no-nonsense interface. I think the more advanced way in which you organize things. I'll put you on my list of possibly up-and-coming search engines. But don't kid yourself yet. You're nowhere near the league of Google.
Despite my harsh, sometimes funny, tone in this post, all these engines are good. But "good" (i.e., AltaVista, Teoma, WiseNut), just doesn't cut it when you have GREAT engines like AllTheWeb, and when you have THE ENGINE, aka Google.
social sciences can never use experience to verify their statemen
When I think "search", my fingers take on a life of their own, hammering away the URL to my favorite search engine. Teoma? ...nothing intuitive there to grab onto, how about becoming a better name (although I give you a few points for fewer letters)
Check news headlines about Renaissance literature
Buy books about the short-sightedness of altavista
Get great deals on architectural theory
Buy games about torture and mayhem
Check sports scores for Islamic Jewish relations.
I hope they can afford to scale!
But seriously. I think it would be very hard to "kill" Google. Google's web server is home-grown and completely customized for their purposes. Teoma is using IIS 5.0 and is going to have to deal with licensing issues, costly security patches and instability.
It won't happen.
am i the only person who uses webcrawler cause of the cute little spider?
and altavista cause of the little scenic view on the logo?
the only fact is that everything is an opinion
Yeah, because you couldn't do up one-level
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yourself...
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Were that I say, pancakes?
Opera had this kind of feature since version 5 at least...
though yes, it's a neat little thing
Konqueror does it much nicer in my opinion. In the URL bar simply type gg: whatever (for google) and ggg: whatever (for groups.google). Very nice for touch typists. I can't find an equivalent in Moz. besides the tab down which gets annoying due to the fact that the number of tabs changes based on your url history.
Of course the best thing would be to make the input routine a bit more intelligent and send almost everything with a space or two off to the search engines...
For all intents and purpose Teoma already had caved into the demands of scientology. Typing "scientology" into their search engine did not reveal "xenu.net" or "lisatrust.net" anywhere amongst its links.
Google lists xenu.net as number 4. I'll take google over Teoma any day.
If they pull it off, great. If they even come close it will only be good news. Make it like the CPU world, where if AMD or Intel slacks off on improving their offerings, the other will eat them alive. Google is so far ahead of its competitors that they could slack off and still be #1 for quite some time. If Teoma works hard and gets close, or offers features Google doesn't, then Google will be forced to improve constantly, and not slack off at all.
I agree that some competition for google would be nice. Google is too good, there is no one that even comes close, at least for me right now. That makes me a bit nervous; if google suddenly turns evil, then what will we do? It would be nice if there were someone in second place who wasn't so far behind.
I used to use altavista, I still remember when google came along. For a while, I'd still usually try altavista first, and definitely use it when I was looking for something really obscure because it had a far bigger database. But when searching for things where altavista would give me 50 million hits, I soon learned that google would almost always have what I wanted within the first page.
I hope google keeps doing everything they're doing right, but I do like a bit of diversity. I hope someone else comes along with some useful features I haven't even thought about yet.
Their "jobs" link mentions a variety of technologies, including LAPACK. LAPACK is a collection of scientific functions (there's a C version, CLAPACK, but LAPACK is FORTRAN). My guess is they're using, among other things, techniques related to latent semantic indexing (LSI) and vector space models (VSM) for their ranking.
Unless you're an Information Retrieval Wienie (like me), you might not know about LSI and the VSM. The cool thing is that these are methods that work really well in the laboratory, but have scaling problems so are not found much in large-scale systems.
Google, we know, uses Page Rank to rank pages based (partially) on the "authority" of the page. It's not clear whether Teoma uses this or not (it is patented). LSI is also patented (by Bell/Lucent), but VSM is not.
For both Google and Teoma, they seem to use hybrid approaches:
- Word occurrence, with weighting (weight of a term in a document; weight of a term in a collection). This is fundamental to all search engines (it's part of what distinguishes an information retrieval system from a database).
- Statistical relations among words and documents (e.g., VSM and LSI techniques -- there are many variations). These look at either a term by document matrix (where each cell is a term count), or term by term matrices (where each cell a measure of the terms' pairwise relatedness).
- Clustering, to eliminate duplicates and identify groupings (Teoma seems to do this; Google does this in their directory. This is NorthernLight's claim to fame, and is patented)
- Authority ranking (it's not clear whether Teoma does what Google does, but this is probably a part of the mix)
Each search engine has its own recipe for how these and other factors are combined. If only they would share (and stop getting software patents)!
...Greg
Try Protozilla. It basically allows you to (re)define handlers for protocols in the URI. (I used it to redirect mailto: to mutt in an xterm, since muttzilla doesn't work with mozilla).
The copyright notice says Ask Jeeves. Am I correct in thinking this leads back to Microsoft ownership?
If so I think I'll stick with an organisation I trust not to distort the results.
RG
Google already has the mom appeal... I mean I see total computer dolts using google. If you talk to anyone at all that uses the net and most likely they've used google.
Trying 65.214.39.14...
Connected to teoma.ask.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.1
HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 07:39:41 GMT
Connection: close
Content-Length: 3221
Content-Type: text/html
Connection closed by foreign host.
YEA RIGHT !!!!!!!!!
IIS is a piece of shit.
It's a cookie farm and you'll be trapped in an excite ad frame, but it's usually enough to get the gist of the page
google rules, teoma sucks right now
There's a way to do that with the "keyword" feature in Mozilla. Somewhere on Mozilla.org, you might find some documentation.
Likewise, it's available in IE with some registry changes.
It's a cookie farm and you'll be trapped in an excite ad frame, but it's usually enough to get the gist of the page
google rules right now, teoma sucks right now
Sorry folks, but they won't get my web hits. Teoma runs on Windoze. I'd rather support Google and its Linux/Unix powered search engine.
bash-2.04$ telnet www.teoma.com 80
Trying 65.214.39.14...
Connected to teoma.ask.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 07:53:46 GMT
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Length: 5645
Content-Type: text/html
Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDGGGGQUBK=GBAEPIAAOHPHNIGEMCKJMFCI; path=/
Cache-control: private
Tired of FB/Google censorship? Visit UNCENSORED!
thots nawt evan my best.
i done fscked me up some html... damn submit button
I did a search on RM101's real name. Teoma returns 45 results. Google returns 173 results.
Therefore, Google is clearly the superior search engine, since it returns far more important results. :)
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
as long as they have this.
the name will be its downfall.. google is just so easy to remember...
I write code.
Cool. I'll check it out. Thanks for the link.
How about This.
Or maybe This.
I have an Israeli friend who said the other day that it would be best if such a thing happened- taking over all the Palistinian controlled areas by force and killing the opposition. I had to remind him that maybe it would best for the Israelis, but the Palistinians would probably disagree.
ok, tried out some tests with the new "google killing search engine" and was disapointed
Google has nothing to worry about.
for now, i'll stick to google.
Here's some
I can't afford for to wait for teoma's down time and virus attacks on their IIS servers. Sorry but google is still on my list. Who knows maybe this is one of MSs new projects. Now back to my google.com searches.
aahh
Amen, brotha! I use my Google search bar allll the time, it's a waste of my valuable time to type "google.com" into my address bar every time I want to search.. :)
rock on, google
ah and btw, teoma sucks... I tried using it more than a few times, but I've never found anything relevant to my searches, just sub-searches with even less relevance than I started with.
I wasn't impressed at all with the results. Basic searches for oddball sites I can easily find within the first 2 or 3 google hits end up 20 or 30 on Teoma. I did searches for myself, too, under various names, guises and projects I've participated in... some of them with rather unique names. Teoma didn't even come up with my project's page at all while Google had it on the first link.
I also smell rank selling in Teoma's results, as some results are suspiciously high in the rankings for no real reason whatsoever.
Eh... You can have that Teoma shit, I'll keep Google thank you very much.
Teoma is going to have one heck of a time ramping up to the kind of processing that Google is doing, if for no other reason than the kind of money they're going to need to put Redmond's way. Have a look. It's no wonder they couldn't put together the financial resources.
Now, let's just pretend that the technology that Teoma is using is roughly equivalent to Google's. Google is up to what now, 7000 servers? That's 7000 copies of Win2k, each including a full Internet hosting license, which is a fair bit more than your usual in house licensing.
Did they write their own DB, or are they fully into the MS world with SQL Server? We're talking about some serious bucks here that cannot be devoted to expanding hardware.
On the other hand, Google can devote 100% of their cash investments to hardware and research. Adding a brand new > 1G box with a couple of monster drives costs maybe $600-$700.
The line must be drawn here. This far. No further.
Probably on mozilla.org somewhere, but also at Google itself, which is pretty nifty (look for the section "Use Google from the Location Bar" at the bottom). It references Mozilla bug 29871, which has a few other ideas/examples.
If you read the article, it states that the ask.com site is already using the tech they are planning to roll out tomorrow on teoma.com.
To test it, I did a search for something I'm actually looking for right now:
"italian hand painted ceramics"
for my friend's wedding present.
Comparing the results from ask and google, it seems to me that ask actually provides higher-quality results (for this search at least).
This is a real change, since I've until now thought that ask jeeves was a company with really bad tech (I had several meetings with their founder and 'chief scientist' and other lead team members back in the day and found them completely clueless. No, really, you cannot imagine how clueless... AND they were NT based!), and I was always shocked at how successful they managed to be.
Now it looks like they've purchased something that really works.
Rather reminds me of when Macromedia looked like they were about to go bust (no one cared about Director any more) and they managed to purchase Flash...
Konqueror does it much nicer in my opinion. In the URL bar simply type gg: whatever (for google)
/. in one of the posts.
I'm of the opinion that Konq does handle this a bit better, but Moz can be set up for very similar functionality. Open up your "Manage Bookmarks" screen on a recent build and give a look at the properties on one of the links. In there you can configure "Keywords" that act like what Konq does, only without the ":" in there.
There's some more info on this buried somewhere on the Mozilla site. Caught a link about this myself not to long ago right here on
As I stated, I rather prefer Konq's approach to this, as you don't need to create a stack of otherwise bogus bookmarks for the URL shortcuts. Essentially they do about the same thing though.
The line must be drawn here. This far. No further.
anybody using ASP crud isn't going to topple anything soon, besides maybe themselves, and only over their own feet at that.
I think this will be taken up by the Slashdot crowd, if only for one reason. A simple search for the word "Microsoft." On Google, the first link is to Microsoft's corporate website, the second is to the Internet Explorer Home Page, the third is to Microsoft Help and Support, etc. Teoma yields the same first result, www.microsoft.com, but the second result says Boycott Microsoft and the third is a link to information about the US vs. Microsoft court case.
Now which one of these is more geek friendly? (By the way, I used this Google.)
Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
adaware picks up the toolbar as spyware
nice to be treated as a product and not a person huh ?
I've noticed that if you type in "http://..." into the Google toolbar you get taken directly to that page
Way back when I used to change the default home page of the browsers I installed to Yahoo instead of Netscape to dodge all the pop-up ads NS decided was good marketing. The interesting thing about this was how many of my users really didn't make a distinction between the Yahoo search bar and the real location bar. Amazing the kind of stuff you catch when standing behind a user verbally instructing them.
Google has probably seen quite a few of these kinds of searches, and compensated for them.
Also, with IE 4+, I think it's possible to use the address bar as a search engine, but you have to wade through menus to get to choose Google, and then you get a Microsoft-ized version of Google in that "Explorer Bar". I personally don't like it.
Mozilla allows you to make Google your default search from both the location bar and the side panel. Additionally, you can hi-light any text, right-click, and be offered a search on that text in Google. No stacks of menus to go through. There's a lot of Google integration throughout Mozilla. Probably one of it's key killer features for end users.
The line must be drawn here. This far. No further.
Does any one know two words that when searched for in google will yield one result. I've tried for hours and can't get it to yield one result.
Google is quite up front in asking whether or not it is okay to collect information about your browsing preferences via the Google Toolbar, so I don't know what the problem is...
"It take 9 months to bear a child, no matter how many women you assign to the job."
yes, yes, here, here, old chap. yo' wit astounds!
Well .. some other niceties that teoma is lacking IMHO is like the nifty "View as HTML" in google for PDF files....
"At Least it let's me be the Playa"
[ Loranze Da Playa ]
This is even better than the Google bar.
Not only can you search google, but you can do searches no matter what you are doing - email, word processing, programming, whatever.
There's more. You're not a captive to Google. Do Yahoo searches with a "question?", get Merriam-Webster definitions with a "colon:", get Bloomberg stock quotes like this "msft intc csco$", and find Switchboard phone numbers by saying "Lois Lane#". You can search real "news." search "newsgroups," check "weather*", or "comparison shop$$". There's a built in calculator when you need to know "pow(1.0625, 30)" is 6.1640785. And so on.
Too much to remember? Under IE 5.5 or better there's a little menu that shows you all your choices. Not enough space on your deskbar? It includes a clock so that you can free up some space by turning off the system deskbar clock.
Missing a feature you need? If you know HTML and want to add your own functionality, you can - it is distributed under GPL.
Not to mention TV listings, temperature conversions, search ebay, ask jeeves, slashdot, etc.
You should check it out, definitely.
Mozilla custom keywords. One of the most underrated features of Mozilla.
I've set up a few dozen keywords so far, ranging from "dic whatever" to search for 'whatever' at dictionary.com to "bug 123456" to search for bug 123456 in bugzilla.
Okay, so google might have some competition. I love google. Ever since I found google, yahoo has sat miles behind in a cloud of dust. Yahoo is annoying. Google gets straight to the point.
Now, this new "google killer" that they are trying to release could be a bad thing. Lets get a hypothetical situation going on here. Lets say Google gets overshadowed by this new search engine to the point where google unfortunately dies, or comes very close. Then, there is a new reigning search engine, whos original goal was to wipe out the best, free, addless search engine. Now, when you are the best, something usually happens. You get greedy. This also happened to Yahoo. You get to be the best, and you start adding these great "features", and soon come adds, then pop up adds, and then more and more crap. Now google is gone, and we have another Yahoo on our hands.
I DONT WANT GOOGLE TO DIE!
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Theres a rather obvious flaw in your logic, namely Google it is the best right now and theyre not spamming up the place with banner ads simply because they can. So, if Teoma comes out on top, why do you automatically think theyd do so?
Liberty in your lifetime
- like the first DOS operating system marked the beginning of the software aera, where software started to dominate hardware.
What we are now part of is the swing from money to attention. Instead of paying in dollars the internet currency is becoming attention.
Teoma tries to become one of the bigger players here, but I doubt it's success. Anyway it's interesting that the fight is clearly about the new currency - and the new currency they are after is attention.
A far way:
personal satisfaction
--> goods
--> services
--> money
--> attention
Google's has been so much ahead the other search engines, that I've been fearing they start to take a fee of its usage, or start to commercialize it like Altavista did.
Even though it doesn't seem like Teoma will win Google as a search engine, it does seem like a good try, which means that Google has to work to keep it's lead position.
Google runs Linux!
This is somewhat offtopice, ut anyways...
I think it is fair to say that Google is one of the most popular and useful sites out there. I think more or less everyone likes it: how well it works, its features such as the cache and the usenet archive, and also how "clean" it is. Now - how much is this worth to you? I think very few (if any) sites are as liked.
So - how much is this worth to you? Personally, I would never pay for Slashdot, although I spend lots of time here. However, Google's usefulness is different. I think actually it could start a subscription service that people would sign up for - IF they handled it right.
I am also using Yahoo mail, together with its "Personal Address" feature that I pay for. I am getting more and more annoyed at all the ads though. If Yahoo could add a few more features I would like to have (like IMAP access), and guarantee performance and reliabilty, I would likely pay some more to see less ads. I think we should not be to sorry if many sites stop being free IF they give you good value for your money.
Additionally, you can hi-light any text, right-click, and be offered a search on that text in Google.
I just realized that you can also do this with IE when the toolbar's installed.
Evil Empires and Weird internet innovations? I don't know, remember, I did say hypothetical. I like that word. It sounds funny...
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Teoma makes you pay to submit your URL, it won't come within 1% of the functionality of Google. There are literally millions of pages totally loaded with useful information that would never ever ever ever (yeah, three evers) pay to submit their site. All that information, not available. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
www.jackasscritics.com
The only way to compare search engines correctly is to perform a comparative analysis of the results returned. For each query you need to analyze if the search engine omitted pages it should have known about, if the objective relevance of the page corresponds to its placement in the result set etc.
Also, if you are going to "test" search engines, make sure you figure out how things work. For instance searching for what some people might consider offensive without first turning off filtering for potentially offensinve content and then just coundting the URLs doesn't exactly make you look too bright.
Your "test" is akin to someone who has never driven a car comparing the performance of sports cars by looking at their instrument panels.
Please turn on brain before use.
When ever a new search engine comes up I always try a search on my name to see how many results come back that are actualy related to me.
Google is fairly good the first page of results are all pages that contain my name as my name (not a geneology page with my first name in one place and last name in another) and also mostly the more relevant ones higher.
This new one gave me 2 pages that are from listserver archives that have messages by me and the rest of the first page was all geneology (granted they were all pages related to my actual family tree not just my last name) this is not a useful result set if I am trying to find pages that contain material by/about a specific person *now*.
My name is far from common (I am not a John Smith) so it is not an issue with the name being right but for some other person.
I think I'll stick with google.
The UN should have seen its mistake when Israel began to terrorize its surrounding territories and the US should not have been allowed to get away with their corrupt handling of Israel.
Israel was a mistake. Israel does not even respect the UN, which it really should do since they owe the UN a great deal.
I think it is about time the UN reversed the decision and dissolved Israel. They have had their chances. They have threatened the world with nuclear war on more than one occasion, and they use dirty tactics, including implying that their opponents are inherently anti-semittic to silence criticism.
It is about time people started to learn modern history and get their heads out of their asses. As long as Israel exists there will be no peace. These people are unable to live in peace.
Dissolve Israel.
Now let me make this perfectly clear. No-one is to throw ANHYTHING, until I blow this whistle ... even if they do say that Teoma will topple Google!
~~~
"Well-washed and well-combed domestic pets grow dull; they miss the stimulus of fleas."
"Mountain Dew-based Google views Teoma as "an interesting approach"
Instead of...
"Mountain View-based Google views Teoma as "an interesting approach"
G. Washington on Government "it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
Given google's current business practices and 'user-friendly' manner of running a search engine, I don't feel there is a need for another great search engine. Assuming Google doesn't change its practice after it has dominated the market completely, I don't think users will be interested in locating/using another search engine. Competition is bad...ha..no really it can be.
If I can't find it on the web, I check the groups. IMHO groups are the best source for info on anything. Teoma lacks that and it will not be my first choice.
a wide array of data-harvester bots have visited us, and the only one allowed to stay is Google's.
I knew that. I was complaining that Teoma did not take into account the text of incoming links' anchors.
For a while, E2 had a robots.txt denying everything (no pun intended) from everyone, and Google still found E2 on the first try. That's because it indexed links to Everything 2 from sites that linked to it using the text "Everything 2". (Teoma does not do this.) If numerous pages link to a page blocked by robots.txt, Google still indexes the page under the search terms of the text of A elements by which other sites link to the page.
Has Slashdot disabled anonymous commenting?
Will I retire or break 10K?
Opera can do this too :) The new right-click funcitonality in Opera 6 is one of my favorite things (But I use K-meleon anyway)
Galeon lets you both define keywords (I type 'gg pigeons' to search for pigeons, 'groups pigeons' to view usenet messages about pigeons, 'images pigeons' to run image search for pigeons, and 'imdb pigeons' to find movies about pigeons) and redefine handlers, using gnome. To set up handlers, go into the Gnome settings -> URL Handlers. Create a new handler foo that runs xterm. (The UI is icky -- you put in a handler name, put in the command, and click Set to add it to the list.) Then in Galeon, put in foo: as the URL and it will launch an xterm. At work, I used this to set up a todo list as my home page, and the "URLs" launch the commands that help me do my work.
Another reason to love Google.
"AltaVista ... doesn't try to eliminate
redundant or very similar pages (or subpages)
like Google does."
Given that Andrei Broder, CTO of Altavista has written at least 4 papers (some dating back to his days at Compaq SRC) describing the algorithms used by Altavista to detect near duplicate documents, I think you need to do some more research. FYI, the four I know of are:
Teoma Search: "Internet Search Engine"
First hit: Google
Zero hits: Teoma
Hm... So when you type in "gg search terms" it actually goes to google.com and uses "search terms" for the search? Or does "gg" just take you to google and you type in your query there? I'll have to go check this out...
I think perhaps it is time all national borders are disolved and people put down all arms. The whole war thing is a joke. How can anyone expect peace when they are willing to fight. I personally have an easy life that is one that I don't consider it threatened. I do beleive in lead by example afterall you are the affect of your enviroment. Peace is a state of mind. When people have tolerance for one another is when there will be peace. War is a battle of everyone. It is a choice of the individual to fight. I personally think it is greater to die for your beliefs then it is to kill. I think this might be off topic though. I say it is about time that the UN exercises worldwide peacekeeping and that it is resolved to a international orginazation of the people and not the government.
hmm sooner
I often mess up spelling google as goggle ..not quite the same teoma makes your fingers move teoma hi and low.. google is just the top two ...
hmm sooner
Well, my web site is #1 on the list when you search for "mathew", so it's as good as Google in that respect.
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
[insert witty comment here]
Some reasons for us aliens to stick with Google...
Special characters (like æ,å,ø) in Teoma shows up like ?. Very annoying.
It is avaliable in my language (Danish), so I can search only on Danish pages.
Fnally Google also suggest corrected spellings and has some indexing, but that might come along in future versions Teoma...
I would think competition is good for the consumer as long as it keeps the feild in progress and lowers pricing aswell as increases use of said product. As far as the need for innovation in the product due to the competive nature the feild progresses aswell as becomes more available. That is if the company wasn't going to do this on their own. Its the whole concept of lets keep it fresh and new in order to keep control. There are competitors to microsoft they just arn't fighting a war to beat them(as a whole). From what I have seen of software for instance companies specialize in feild but are dependant upon ms as the point. I personally am one for monopolies since I think that they reduce waste but they have to be well managed monopolies with forward vision instead of stagnation. I am in no way saying that microsoft is non forward looking or stagnant and just the mention may lead to psychology binding so I will say again I do not think ms is non forward looking or stagnant. Instead actually it's ability to be supported and establishing the trends and compatibilities is its own perspective as to how it wants to shape the future of computing. Just think if all those other companies which arn't in anyway owned by microsoft well hold on... nevermind. All in all competition is seen as a tool for the lazy. It's like saying we arn't wanting progression and innovation at reduced cost to the consumer... no we are companies(no me I'm a bum)which increase cost to the consumer for reduced sevice and reliability... no we are not(not me)like that. The barriers of communication among large companies do not exist in a traditional sense. For instance take the music industry you have top execs switching for company to company. Really the buisness world is just like everyday life, you have nice people and you have not nice people. The trend of successful buisness is to succeed and this success is garentied(only if I could spell it). The success lays with knowing your customer, shaping your customer, and ease. Of course this is just my opinion. But the world is a odd place(only as odd as you make it). You have people with self intrest and you have people with global intrest. Plainly the world is not an effective buisness for the global person. If only self intrest became global intrest and not in a self intrest way. Hell it will be how it is I just think that it could have been and still could be a nicer place for "everyone". But hell I'm just a bum who won't do anything for myself. The whole wide world question is ....
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