Just because Google does some good works doesn't mean that they are always right. From the press release, its not really an article, it looks as though Google gave the impression that they were pushing LimitNone's product to their users and that there was an understanding that they wouldn't release a competing program.
That said, unless LimitNone's product keeps someones gMail and Outlook accounts in sync, this looks like an excessive amount of money for a trival tool.
I've not been to the US since they made fingerprinting a requirement of entry. I've no intention of changing that either. There are plenty of other countries in the world that don't treat me like a criminal when I visit them.
And I would like to see ISPs getting to the point where you and half the kids on your street could have a gaming session/streamed movie/video chat at the same time without killing the network. Because, you know, if they did it likely would and we're headed that direction. I predict that the "top 5% of users, top 95% of bandwidth" stat will start to decline. "Bandwidth hogs" won't just apply to the illegal users anymore.
I don't think more bandwidth would make any difference. The people that share would just share more.
The vast majority of people pirating aren't doing it to make a statement they are doing it because its free and they can. If you believe anything else I would like to smoke some of what you are smoking.
that punishment is not being dealt through proper judicial review.
it's being dealt against people on mere accusation.
Which is a good reason to object to it. Sadly that's not what the majority of objections are based on. They are along the lines of "set the music free!"
I agree with some of what you say but not your initial statement. I don't see that this is a war that cannot be won. We've seen the announcement of DPI devices earlier in the year. The cost of these will only come down as the technology becomes more widely used. You are seeing these moves now because they are coming into the realms of being technically possible. Whilst its true that the sharing software will, in itself, adapt the monitoring systems will be able to keep up.
Now who is to blame for this impending policing of the internet? Is the nasty governments? Is it the pigopolists of the *AA? Is it the freetards?
There is a limited amount of bandwidth. I'd rather have it available for legitimate use. I don't want my gaming session/streamed movie/video chat spoiled because half the kids in the street have found bittorrent and are downloading nekkid pictures or dirty movies.
So the punishment should act as a pretty good deterrent then shouldn't it? Its not everyone's right to download copyrighted materials because they [can't afford it]/[don't think its worth it]/[want to strike a blow against the captialist scum]*.
The outrage over this is tired and predictable. People know that the copyright holders don't want them to download the [music]/[video]/[movie]* without some recompense. That the legal system is finally trying to catch up shouldn't be a surprise. Just be thankful that you've got away with it for so long.
If you ignore a core order, even if you believe that the order is incorrect, then you open yourself up to a charge of contempt of court. Ignoring court orders is a big deal.
He's got his publicity now, the pragmatic approach would be to comply with the court order. He can continue to fight the original order through the legal system, but to ignore it in this manner is only going to end one way.
There comes a point in life where rather than spending time sourcing wheels, engine, doors, body, fuel system and spending time testing and assembling before a journey you just go out and get a car.
I'm happy with what.Mac gives me for the money. Looking at it MobileMe will deliver too. The tight integration with the OS is what's important.
During the dotcom boom my uncle developed an aseptic filling plant and had an order from Mars. In order to be able to fulfill the order in its entirety he needed additional funding in the region of £1m. He failed to secure the funding. This at a time when people where being given millions for just adding '...and its on the internet' to the end of any physical process.
The reason he failed to get funding. In his case despite having a customer lined up the possible investors saw a greater potential return from other means. A single dotcom success would far outweigh the return they would get from this physical process.
The point I'm trying to make is that until they've been able to prove the process on an industrial scale they are going to find it difficult to attract investment. Especially when speculation on the oil price is reaping such rich rewards at the moment.
Listening to BBC Radio 4 this morning some of the details were expounded on. The designs were more sophisticated than had earlier been found from this particular source. The only previous designs found had been Chinese ones from the 1960s. Whilst these were capable of producing an atomic device it quite a large and cumbersome affair. The new plans that were found were for a warhead that was suitable for missle delivery. As the states that are known to have dealt with these smugglers in the past include ones that have missle delivery systems this is a newsworthy development. If anything it steps up the pressure against Iran.
If I were cynical I'd suggest that this is precisely what GWB needs in order to up the ante against Iran. I wouldn't be surprised if details are made available in the next few days, perhaps email logs etc, that indicate that the plans have been sent to Iran. This could be used to justify further action against Iran under the auspises of the UN.
Personally I think that the genie is out of the bottle and its about time countries grew up and started dealing with each other in a more adult way. All of this 'my dad is bigger than your dad' stuff is something that I grew out of a long time ago. I think you can assume that any country that wants and atomic weapon has access to the plans by now. The rest is just fabrication. The whole nuclear non-proliferation thing has failed to stop any country that has been determined to get hold of these weapons. Its time to move on to the next stage of diplomacy.
Thank you for that link. I think I see a whole new business opportunity here. I realised that audiophiles were obsessive having worked with a couple but hadn't realised quite how gullible they were.
Solaris has used the idea of "unused memory is wasted memory" for a long time now. If memory isn't being used by applications then why not use it for file system buffering and cache? As long as it gets reaped by your memory manager when you need it for applications it seems like a good thing to do performance wise.
If Brown hadn't got this through then the vultures would have been circling and there would have been a challenge before the summer recess.
There are so many bad things about this bill and it bears no resemblence to the measure at was originally proposed. Its a reserve power that requires parliament to approve it being put into operation and then requires judicial oversight to activate it for an individual. To be honest it looks pretty much unworkable. As a consequence the only thing its going to be good for is extremist recruitment and as a political virility statement on behalf of the Prime Minister.
I've written to my MP on the subject but, as she's a Tory, she was voting against it already.
I live in the UK. Its possible to get most phones for free here with the correct price plan. I've tried various smart phones from Sony Ericsson and Nokia over the past 5-6 years and all of them have failed in one sense or another. They've all promised much but been left lacking in execution. This is not disimilar to the MP3 player market when the iPod was released.
I don't expect technology people to see the problem. In general they are happy having to learn the various hoops you need to to get the best out of a device. The remaining people just want something that does the job as easily as possible. The iPhone fits these users. It may not have all of the features that the other phones have, it does execute the features it has better than the competing phones.
As an example of poor implementation I'm currently using a Nokia E61 with the latest firmware on it. It has a nice web browser, built off Web-Kit. If I select a URL from the messaging app it launches a WAP browser instead of the web browser.
Ah, replace with Linux. That's the solution to everything. Though if it was why hasn't everyone done it already? Ah, that would be because its not as simple as that in the real world.
The existing PPC kit will run no problem on 10.5 for a couple more years. This will probably be the timescale for 10.7, at which point patches for 10.5 would stop being produced. That gives the 5 year life time. I don't understand that problem.
Why do people insist on referring to their Mac OS with a code name instead of a number? I have no clue what version of the Mac OS Tiger was versus Puma but I can easily figure out if 10.4 is newer than 10.2. Perhaps its because that's what Apple refers to the releases as. Its a marketing distinction as much as anything but 'OS X Leopard' sounds more impressive than 'OS X 10.5'.
Nice posting Mr Anonymous Coward. Typical Usenet type flame. Nip in with a few words, get a criticism in, then disappear without a trace your job done.
The point, that you are avoiding with your post, is that on the mainland there was no change with the IRA bombings other than the bins. It was stated many times that to change the way that we lived would be to give in to the terrorists. The message that is being pushed by the government is that they need more powers in order to act, they need us to accept more restrictions on our lives and privacy.
If you want to comment register and put your name to it rather than posting as an AC. It's not as if the security services are going to pull you up about it.
A far greater threat to the UK is from the left wing totalitarian minded government that is using the threat of trouble to clamp down on personal liberty in the name of security.
I'm old enough to live through the IRA terror campaigns in the UK. I worked in Manchester when they blew up the Arndale Centre there. The most authorative response by the government at that point was to remove waste bins so as to remove one possible drop point for bombs.
We were told repeatedly at the time that to change the way that we did things, to impose draconian measures, would be counter productive in that it would be seen as a success by the terrorists. The best thing that we could do would be to look out for anything suspicious but carry on our normal lives much the same as before.
What has changed? The IRA were a credible threat, carried out multiple attacks, but we didn't need huge changes in daily life or restrictions to freedom, to deal with them. Why do we need them now?
"Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Any reports to the contrary are mistaken." - George Orwell, 1984.
Substitute 'The West' and 'Al Qaeda' and you have today's situation. The 'War on Terror' whilst a real, but insignificant threat, is as useful to the UK government as the war in 1984. It allows them to engender a climate of fear and get people to accept restrictions on liberties that would not otherwise be tolerated.
Around 1980 I built my first computer. It was great. It had 1k of memory and a cassette tape machine for storage. Programming it involved looking up Z80 machine code on a sheet and entering it in hex. Fantastic!
Building your own computer is fine, for a hobbyist. There are people that build their own cars, do their own wiring in their home, grow their own food. These are all worthwhile. The rest of us buy a car, pay someone to do the wiring, buy our food down at the store. We also buy our computers already built. We've come a long way since the early 1980s. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with building your own computer just that for most people that's too much hassle. The computer is a tool and they want it to just work.
It may be a gratuitous slam on the United States but its a truthful one. The behaviour of the United Status regard Guantanamo has been a blight on its reputation, one that has soured its image across the world. Its a measure of how badly the image has been soured that its not possible to have a discussion of rights without the subject being raised. This might not be people's taste but its the reality of the situation.
What is the answer? I guess that if you are holding yourselves up as being the defender of the free world and calling 'evil' to account you have to make sure that you don't commit evil yourselves.
I realise that not all US citizens supported this state of affairs but enough of them voted to elect the George W Bush and again to re-elect him. Whilst you might not agree with the policies conducted they are being carried out in your name by your democratically elected government. As such you have to take the heat that goes with it. Fortunately you are free to protest against this and not be locked up.
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Just because Google does some good works doesn't mean that they are always right. From the press release, its not really an article, it looks as though Google gave the impression that they were pushing LimitNone's product to their users and that there was an understanding that they wouldn't release a competing program.
That said, unless LimitNone's product keeps someones gMail and Outlook accounts in sync, this looks like an excessive amount of money for a trival tool.
I've not been to the US since they made fingerprinting a requirement of entry. I've no intention of changing that either. There are plenty of other countries in the world that don't treat me like a criminal when I visit them.
And I would like to see ISPs getting to the point where you and half the kids on your street could have a gaming session/streamed movie/video chat at the same time without killing the network. Because, you know, if they did it likely would and we're headed that direction. I predict that the "top 5% of users, top 95% of bandwidth" stat will start to decline. "Bandwidth hogs" won't just apply to the illegal users anymore.
I don't think more bandwidth would make any difference. The people that share would just share more.The vast majority of people pirating aren't doing it to make a statement they are doing it because its free and they can. If you believe anything else I would like to smoke some of what you are smoking.
that punishment is not being dealt through proper judicial review.
it's being dealt against people on mere accusation.
Which is a good reason to object to it. Sadly that's not what the majority of objections are based on. They are along the lines of "set the music free!"No that's not a suggestions its an snide remark that adds nothing to the discussion.
I agree with some of what you say but not your initial statement. I don't see that this is a war that cannot be won. We've seen the announcement of DPI devices earlier in the year. The cost of these will only come down as the technology becomes more widely used. You are seeing these moves now because they are coming into the realms of being technically possible. Whilst its true that the sharing software will, in itself, adapt the monitoring systems will be able to keep up.
Now who is to blame for this impending policing of the internet? Is the nasty governments? Is it the pigopolists of the *AA? Is it the freetards?
There is a limited amount of bandwidth. I'd rather have it available for legitimate use. I don't want my gaming session/streamed movie/video chat spoiled because half the kids in the street have found bittorrent and are downloading nekkid pictures or dirty movies.
So the punishment should act as a pretty good deterrent then shouldn't it? Its not everyone's right to download copyrighted materials because they [can't afford it]/[don't think its worth it]/[want to strike a blow against the captialist scum]*.
The outrage over this is tired and predictable. People know that the copyright holders don't want them to download the [music]/[video]/[movie]* without some recompense. That the legal system is finally trying to catch up shouldn't be a surprise. Just be thankful that you've got away with it for so long.
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You can be in the UK.
A typical 'normal' speeding offence would get you 3 points on your licence.
A 'reckless' speeding offence would get you 4-6 points on your licence.
Once you've totted up 12 points in a 3-4 year period that's it. Your licence will be revoked for a period of time.
If you get caught driving at 30+ mph over the limit, which is possible on the motorways, then the loss of licence is pretty much automatic.
He's got his publicity now, the pragmatic approach would be to comply with the court order. He can continue to fight the original order through the legal system, but to ignore it in this manner is only going to end one way.
There comes a point in life where rather than spending time sourcing wheels, engine, doors, body, fuel system and spending time testing and assembling before a journey you just go out and get a car.
.Mac gives me for the money. Looking at it MobileMe will deliver too. The tight integration with the OS is what's important.
I'm happy with what
During the dotcom boom my uncle developed an aseptic filling plant and had an order from Mars. In order to be able to fulfill the order in its entirety he needed additional funding in the region of £1m. He failed to secure the funding. This at a time when people where being given millions for just adding '...and its on the internet' to the end of any physical process.
The reason he failed to get funding. In his case despite having a customer lined up the possible investors saw a greater potential return from other means. A single dotcom success would far outweigh the return they would get from this physical process.
The point I'm trying to make is that until they've been able to prove the process on an industrial scale they are going to find it difficult to attract investment. Especially when speculation on the oil price is reaping such rich rewards at the moment.
Listening to BBC Radio 4 this morning some of the details were expounded on. The designs were more sophisticated than had earlier been found from this particular source. The only previous designs found had been Chinese ones from the 1960s. Whilst these were capable of producing an atomic device it quite a large and cumbersome affair. The new plans that were found were for a warhead that was suitable for missle delivery. As the states that are known to have dealt with these smugglers in the past include ones that have missle delivery systems this is a newsworthy development. If anything it steps up the pressure against Iran.
If I were cynical I'd suggest that this is precisely what GWB needs in order to up the ante against Iran. I wouldn't be surprised if details are made available in the next few days, perhaps email logs etc, that indicate that the plans have been sent to Iran. This could be used to justify further action against Iran under the auspises of the UN.
Personally I think that the genie is out of the bottle and its about time countries grew up and started dealing with each other in a more adult way. All of this 'my dad is bigger than your dad' stuff is something that I grew out of a long time ago. I think you can assume that any country that wants and atomic weapon has access to the plans by now. The rest is just fabrication. The whole nuclear non-proliferation thing has failed to stop any country that has been determined to get hold of these weapons. Its time to move on to the next stage of diplomacy.
Thank you for that link. I think I see a whole new business opportunity here. I realised that audiophiles were obsessive having worked with a couple but hadn't realised quite how gullible they were.
Solaris has used the idea of "unused memory is wasted memory" for a long time now. If memory isn't being used by applications then why not use it for file system buffering and cache? As long as it gets reaped by your memory manager when you need it for applications it seems like a good thing to do performance wise.
If Brown hadn't got this through then the vultures would have been circling and there would have been a challenge before the summer recess.
There are so many bad things about this bill and it bears no resemblence to the measure at was originally proposed. Its a reserve power that requires parliament to approve it being put into operation and then requires judicial oversight to activate it for an individual. To be honest it looks pretty much unworkable. As a consequence the only thing its going to be good for is extremist recruitment and as a political virility statement on behalf of the Prime Minister.
I've written to my MP on the subject but, as she's a Tory, she was voting against it already.
I don't expect technology people to see the problem. In general they are happy having to learn the various hoops you need to to get the best out of a device. The remaining people just want something that does the job as easily as possible. The iPhone fits these users. It may not have all of the features that the other phones have, it does execute the features it has better than the competing phones.
As an example of poor implementation I'm currently using a Nokia E61 with the latest firmware on it. It has a nice web browser, built off Web-Kit. If I select a URL from the messaging app it launches a WAP browser instead of the web browser.
The existing PPC kit will run no problem on 10.5 for a couple more years. This will probably be the timescale for 10.7, at which point patches for 10.5 would stop being produced. That gives the 5 year life time. I don't understand that problem.
Nice posting Mr Anonymous Coward. Typical Usenet type flame. Nip in with a few words, get a criticism in, then disappear without a trace your job done. The point, that you are avoiding with your post, is that on the mainland there was no change with the IRA bombings other than the bins. It was stated many times that to change the way that we lived would be to give in to the terrorists. The message that is being pushed by the government is that they need more powers in order to act, they need us to accept more restrictions on our lives and privacy. If you want to comment register and put your name to it rather than posting as an AC. It's not as if the security services are going to pull you up about it.
A far greater threat to the UK is from the left wing totalitarian minded government that is using the threat of trouble to clamp down on personal liberty in the name of security.
We were told repeatedly at the time that to change the way that we did things, to impose draconian measures, would be counter productive in that it would be seen as a success by the terrorists. The best thing that we could do would be to look out for anything suspicious but carry on our normal lives much the same as before.
What has changed? The IRA were a credible threat, carried out multiple attacks, but we didn't need huge changes in daily life or restrictions to freedom, to deal with them. Why do we need them now?
"Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Any reports to the contrary are mistaken." - George Orwell, 1984.
Substitute 'The West' and 'Al Qaeda' and you have today's situation. The 'War on Terror' whilst a real, but insignificant threat, is as useful to the UK government as the war in 1984. It allows them to engender a climate of fear and get people to accept restrictions on liberties that would not otherwise be tolerated.
Around 1980 I built my first computer. It was great. It had 1k of memory and a cassette tape machine for storage. Programming it involved looking up Z80 machine code on a sheet and entering it in hex. Fantastic!
Building your own computer is fine, for a hobbyist. There are people that build their own cars, do their own wiring in their home, grow their own food. These are all worthwhile. The rest of us buy a car, pay someone to do the wiring, buy our food down at the store. We also buy our computers already built. We've come a long way since the early 1980s. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with building your own computer just that for most people that's too much hassle. The computer is a tool and they want it to just work.
Now all they have to do is find him to serve the order.
It may be a gratuitous slam on the United States but its a truthful one. The behaviour of the United Status regard Guantanamo has been a blight on its reputation, one that has soured its image across the world. Its a measure of how badly the image has been soured that its not possible to have a discussion of rights without the subject being raised. This might not be people's taste but its the reality of the situation.
What is the answer? I guess that if you are holding yourselves up as being the defender of the free world and calling 'evil' to account you have to make sure that you don't commit evil yourselves.
I realise that not all US citizens supported this state of affairs but enough of them voted to elect the George W Bush and again to re-elect him. Whilst you might not agree with the policies conducted they are being carried out in your name by your democratically elected government. As such you have to take the heat that goes with it. Fortunately you are free to protest against this and not be locked up.