my aunt madge is a reference to the article, so rtfa, your middle aged secretaries probably had a good teacher.
Otherwise, I'll point out that I think you're right.
however, the original article and the original post refer to using unix being easy once you've learned how to use it. my quibble is that the once you've got it step isn't as easy as it's being made out to be.
You're comparison to english makes it sound much easier to figure out than the man pages/online documentation do. I'm sure you'd be a good teacher to have for exactly that reason. But for the average person, like me, it's incomprehensible until someone points all of these things out.
There's no way to just fiddle around and type random things until you achieve desired response because most of the time, when things go right you see nothing happen.
I have learned some words, but I can do things NOW with my mac using the GUI, wheras learning and gathering experience takes time. So, it's a healthy compromise to own a mac and get weaned into unix.
Strawman? probably. but I'm sticking with what I said.
The analogies we're using all suck, but, unix isn't intuitive and it is hard to learn. That's my point and I'm sticking to it.
If it wasn't (difficult to learn), then I would get it, and I've tried.
I'm a science student at the 2nd best school (yeah right) in canada who's about to graduate. I'm no super genius, not even close, I'm just not as retarded as any linux user will be quick to tell me. So, I think it's safe to say I'm a little brighter than the article's clueless aunt madge. Yet, I find the unix environment difficult to understand and difficult to learn how to use.
If your argument held any water, aunt madge, who can drive, who can ride a bike and who 0wnz at mortal kombat should be able to learn unixy stuff.
So, why can't she?
Because it's not THAT easy. "Just learn the language" and then it's easy is still BS. Because "Just" learning the language isn't easy, not for me and aunt madge anyways.
If you'll excuse us, we have an MK tourney to attend to.
And once you learn the language it is far more "user friendly" than any amount of icons for those tasks it's good at.
That's like saying, flying a jet is easier than buying a plane ticket once you go through flight school. Duh, of course it is.
On the other hand I agree with you about MacOSX and would like to add that's it's an excellent way for weaning me and aunt madge onto unix. It just works and you can screw around with unix in manageable doses.
I get the satire, it may even have supraironical in the most endearing sense of the word.
The point was that it wasn't funny and his points were stupid.
Linux is fantastic for a variety of reasons but doesn't work the way I want it to (ie: without having to look things up repeatedly) for a variety of others.
Perhaps this means I'm both retarded and not fit to produce offspring as is often what linux users tell me.
I think it means that linux isn't prepared for home desktop users.
I'm generally satisfied with what's available to me in Linux, but I recognize that others may not be, any more than they would be satisfied driving an old but reliable pickup truck instead of a low-slung, zoomy sports car with all kinds of fancy power accessories"
I'm sorry, because you can't figure out how to install thunderbird and mozilla or opera isn't my problem. When I start my XP box, it does what i want it to, when i want it to how I want it to.
Linux sucks for games.
Linux sucks for digital cameras and USB keys.
I spent 5 hours trying to figure out how to use my USB key under linux, eventually I said fuck it and put the data on a HD partition so that linux could figure out how to mount it. Windows on the other hand can figure this out in seconds. Maybe this means I'm losing cpu on looking for usb devices when there aren't any, but why would I care about this? My computer is still fast enough to run any 8 home applictions without slowing down by a wink.
Windows IS customisable, you just have to NOT be retarded, like the author.
Turning off messanger, IE, outlook is one fucking click away in the "set program access defaults", which a doped up chimp could find and figure out how to use.
The idea of having day to day programs on the task bar dates back to win 98. It's called the quicklaunch bar. you enable by clicking "show quick launch bar".
OoOoOOOOooO mysterious!!!
I hate you linux circle jerks. It's not that great, it's just trendy, so get over it.
It got people thinking in the right way and I would say without hesitation that this is the Parent experiment of chemical evolution.
Recently some other people (see Bernstein et al. at NASA ames) have shown that some of these amino acids could have come from nebulous gases formed on ice crystals due to interstellar photochemistry.
multiple sources is the more modern way of thinking about all of it.
bull shit. times 3!!! 1) It's our high technology that protects us holding everyone in a stalemate. I know, now it only takes one but to kill us all but I think we're a lot safer this way. 2)"anti-war religions" who the f@ck are you kidding? some holy men tell you that if you're a good little muslim and kill X number of jews you'll go to heaven. It's a survival of ideas game, the peoples who are willing to kill to survive will survive. What you're really missing is just how draconian your people are. Assuming you're an american... who is Bin Ladin and who trained him, who made him? Is it really fair to destroy an entire country and it's government because of a terrorist action, are you sure the government knew anything? Is it fair to chastize Israel for doing the samething?
I agree completely.
However, If you look at ideas as if they were sort of like genes, or 'memes' as they have been called. You'll realize that no matter how far some of us go, or how much religion as an idea might be selected against, you'll never, ever EVER get them all.
a third possibility is being researched as we speak. Dinococcus radiodurans is a bacteria than can take a REALLY big pounding to the genome, we're talking IMPRESSIVE DNA repair mechanisms. After a bombardment sufficient to kill a human about a hundred (or thousand i forget the figs) times over, it's DNA is left in shambles, but quickly, it stitches the whole thing back into order, working order. how does it do this? does it do this because it came from space originally and this is just vestigial biochemical event?
why even bother going to Mars before we know these "simple" things about our own planet?
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my aunt madge is a reference to the article, so rtfa, your middle aged secretaries probably had a good teacher.
Otherwise, I'll point out that I think you're right.
however, the original article and the original post refer to using unix being easy once you've learned how to use it. my quibble is that the once you've got it step isn't as easy as it's being made out to be.
You're comparison to english makes it sound much easier to figure out than the man pages/online documentation do. I'm sure you'd be a good teacher to have for exactly that reason. But for the average person, like me, it's incomprehensible until someone points all of these things out.
There's no way to just fiddle around and type random things until you achieve desired response because most of the time, when things go right you see nothing happen.
I have learned some words, but I can do things NOW with my mac using the GUI, wheras learning and gathering experience takes time. So, it's a healthy compromise to own a mac and get weaned into unix.
Strawman? probably. but I'm sticking with what I said.
The analogies we're using all suck, but, unix isn't intuitive and it is hard to learn. That's my point and I'm sticking to it.
If it wasn't (difficult to learn), then I would get it, and I've tried.
I'm a science student at the 2nd best school (yeah right) in canada who's about to graduate. I'm no super genius, not even close, I'm just not as retarded as any linux user will be quick to tell me. So, I think it's safe to say I'm a little brighter than the article's clueless aunt madge. Yet, I find the unix environment difficult to understand and difficult to learn how to use.
If your argument held any water, aunt madge, who can drive, who can ride a bike and who 0wnz at mortal kombat should be able to learn unixy stuff.
So, why can't she?
Because it's not THAT easy. "Just learn the language" and then it's easy is still BS. Because "Just" learning the language isn't easy, not for me and aunt madge anyways.
If you'll excuse us, we have an MK tourney to attend to.
And once you learn the language it is far more "user friendly" than any amount of icons for those tasks it's good at.
That's like saying, flying a jet is easier than buying a plane ticket once you go through flight school. Duh, of course it is.
On the other hand I agree with you about MacOSX and would like to add that's it's an excellent way for weaning me and aunt madge onto unix. It just works and you can screw around with unix in manageable doses.
Time travel is possible now, you just can't go backwards.
See relativity.
I have two exams on the 17th day and seeing as how I flunked the midterms for both classes, I won't be given a B.Sc in May if I go.
That being said I have tickets for 12:01.
Who cares if you flunk a couple in the long run anyways?
Why don't you just buy a Mac? Duh.
Nope, literally, twice as large.
I get the satire, it may even have supraironical in the most endearing sense of the word.
The point was that it wasn't funny and his points were stupid.
Linux is fantastic for a variety of reasons but doesn't work the way I want it to (ie: without having to look things up repeatedly) for a variety of others.
Perhaps this means I'm both retarded and not fit to produce offspring as is often what linux users tell me.
I think it means that linux isn't prepared for home desktop users.
P.S. you're an asshole
I'm generally satisfied with what's available to me in Linux, but I recognize that others may not be, any more than they would be satisfied driving an old but reliable pickup truck instead of a low-slung, zoomy sports car with all kinds of fancy power accessories"
I'm sorry, because you can't figure out how to install thunderbird and mozilla or opera isn't my problem. When I start my XP box, it does what i want it to, when i want it to how I want it to.
Linux sucks for games.
Linux sucks for digital cameras and USB keys.
I spent 5 hours trying to figure out how to use my USB key under linux, eventually I said fuck it and put the data on a HD partition so that linux could figure out how to mount it. Windows on the other hand can figure this out in seconds. Maybe this means I'm losing cpu on looking for usb devices when there aren't any, but why would I care about this? My computer is still fast enough to run any 8 home applictions without slowing down by a wink.
Windows IS customisable, you just have to NOT be retarded, like the author.
Turning off messanger, IE, outlook is one fucking click away in the "set program access defaults", which a doped up chimp could find and figure out how to use.
The idea of having day to day programs on the task bar dates back to win 98. It's called the quicklaunch bar. you enable by clicking "show quick launch bar".
OoOoOOOOooO mysterious!!!
I hate you linux circle jerks. It's not that great, it's just trendy, so get over it.
Ummm...
Or, if you take the time to go throught the history of middle earth, you'll find bombadil is unaccounted for. Is he God? Tolkien? Something else?
Word.
But, we this was the first step!
It got people thinking in the right way and I would say without hesitation that this is the Parent experiment of chemical evolution.
Recently some other people (see Bernstein et al. at NASA ames) have shown that some of these amino acids could have come from nebulous gases formed on ice crystals due to interstellar photochemistry.
multiple sources is the more modern way of thinking about all of it.
bull shit.
times 3!!!
1) It's our high technology that protects us holding everyone in a stalemate. I know, now it only takes one but to kill us all but I think we're a lot safer this way.
2)"anti-war religions" who the f@ck are you kidding? some holy men tell you that if you're a good little muslim and kill X number of jews you'll go to heaven. It's a survival of ideas game, the peoples who are willing to kill to survive will survive. What you're really missing is just how draconian your people are. Assuming you're an american...
who is Bin Ladin and who trained him, who made him?
Is it really fair to destroy an entire country and it's government because of a terrorist action, are you sure the government knew anything?
Is it fair to chastize Israel for doing the samething?
I agree completely. However, If you look at ideas as if they were sort of like genes, or 'memes' as they have been called. You'll realize that no matter how far some of us go, or how much religion as an idea might be selected against, you'll never, ever EVER get them all.
a third possibility is being researched as we speak.
Dinococcus radiodurans is a bacteria than can take a REALLY big pounding to the genome, we're talking IMPRESSIVE DNA repair mechanisms. After a bombardment sufficient to kill a human about a hundred (or thousand i forget the figs) times over, it's DNA is left in shambles, but quickly, it stitches the whole thing back into order, working order.
how does it do this?
does it do this because it came from space originally and this is just vestigial biochemical event?
why even bother going to Mars before we know these "simple" things about our own planet?