i too use intellij, and which the eclipse developers would take a look at what IDE innovation really looks like. eclipse has crap template support compared to intellij and eclipse STILL doesn't have dot completion done right like it is in intellij.
I've long told my friend eric that what linux needed more than anything was an easy to install (think redhat or mandrake) debian based distro. Is this the first distro like that? I wish mandrake would stop using rpms and use debian's apt repository to handle software installing/updating, but alas it seems impossible for Mandrake developers to pull their head out of their ass and realize that rpms are not the way to go.
what the hell are you talking about?
i went to the finder, hit cmd-K, typed in smb://myserver/share, and it instantly mounted on my desktop. i clicked the eject button in the finder's new sidebar and it unmounted just fine.
so you'd rather apple base their os off a completely priorietary kernel like NT? you'd rather apple use a centralized, faulty registry system like windows instead of apple's plist preferences system where prefs are independent xml files? would you also like apple to drop their *vastly* superior quartz extreme interface for X11 so that we can live in the 70s again? i'm sure we shouldn't stop there. we should ask apple to stop using apache as the built in web server, ssh as the built in remote login server, and lukeftpd as the built in ftp server.
zealots like you don't look at the whole picture. you use your computer for the sole purpose of running applications. mac can run your applications, or linux, or bsd. the point is relatively moot. apple's choice of applications is based off the open source community. and for THAT, i can forgive just about any atrocity apple commits due to a lifetime of woes that microsoft windows has caused the computer industry. when i use apple's os, at least i'm using an os built off the ideals of oss community, not the embrace and extend policy of the other world.
so give apple some slack. they can't exist with the oss community, so linux and bsd are never going away, and the oss community can't live without the innovation and embracement of the "consumer" os.
people don't change because they don't know macs are better, and they don't like change.
i switched about 8 months ago, and i tell every person i talk to that complains about his pc sucking to get a mac. so far i've switched almost 4 friends.
people ARE switching, however the computer market is growing rapidly and the mac isn't growing as fast.
mac doesn't really sell an "entry level" craptacular beige box, so they don't compete on price. apple competes on quality, and far too many people care about the bottom line - price. it's the american way! in all seriousness, if you take a look at the fact that macs are usually high end (price) and macs have 3% of the market, then 3% of the market wants high end machines. the total market for high end machines might only be 10% tops. mac has a big chunk of the high end market if you look at it from that perspective.
they moved the option to set drafts, sent, and trash.
click the folder you want to set as trash, click the menu mailbox, then "Use this mailbox for" -> trash
you used to be able to set these from ctrl-clicking the folder.. oh well.
if you're like many slashdotters, you want classic to die a horrible death. are there any other drastic differences? i've been running the 7b85 seed for some time now.
that's funny. cause it has a console mode.
it runs all my unix apps.
it has an integrated x11 server.
and it has support from some OS packaging groups (fink, darwinports).
it mounts my nfs shares off my linux desktop.
yeah.. that definatly sounds like it's NOT unix to me. get a life troll.
in many ways i agree with this statement (i'd know since i use a powerbook with programs like gvim frequently). however many mac native apps don't have a command line interface FIRST with a gui later. in fact, just about none do. os x has a few programs such as hdiutil, niutil, defaults, etc that are basically frontends to drive utility, net info, and property list but these seem to be the exception rather than the standard unfortunatly.
What about all those people who have already signed their soul over to the devil? I'm sure if it were as simple as "switching" from one record label to another, many bands would. The choices today are getting better, but the contracts those people have to sign just to get their music on a cd is insane. The record company basically owns their ass for years before they can choose to go somewhere else, and even then in many cases the new record label they go to still has to pay a cut to the previos label.
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I've got a DVD burner.. I've had one for awhile now. Is there any compelling reason the Knoppix site isn't hosting the linuxtag dvd yet, or why it isn't being pushed more? The concept of being able to fit nearly anything you want on one disk, and being able to show anyone with a dvd drive the huge amount of free software available in linux would be nice..
when you say "non-damaging" that depends on the window really. mac has the concept of "click through" buttons and non-click through buttons, where click-through means you can perform an action on a window out of focus. by default the controls in os x do not click-through unless explicitly set. the exception for that is the control buttons (close, zoom, minimize) are always click through
in regards to pie menus: YES! pie menus are the most efficient menu design possible, and i completely agree.
It's about time we started playing catchup with BeOS's filesystem. Though this seems more user-land when a function like this (file systems) should be more kernel-land.
This is essentialy what Longhorn's taked on SQL extensions are going to provide, and I had no idea there was ongoing progress to have this functional in *nix so soon! By the time 2005 rolls around, I have a feeling this will be a lot further a long than microsoft's implementation.
*cracks whip* On zerocool, on uberh4ck3r, on coding monkey! We're catching up:)
after doing some searching i found out that the project is officially called DarWine. It is a port of wine to the PPC architecture, backed by bochs. it's still a translation layer -- there's nothing stopping you from porting wine to another platform. it just doesn't do much good if there isn't a way to run the x86 compiled binaries, and this is where bochs comes in.
i think the key word here is "port." It's not emulating linux. when i run konqueror in os x using fink, i'm not "emulating" linux to run konqueror, i'm running the Qt/X11 based PPC port of Konqueror.
funny that this is posted on winehq.com then. as someone else said, you'd need to hook wine into an x86 emulation engine, but apparently that's being worked on.
Actually that's incorrect. the reason most email/address book viruses spread so fast and cause so much havoc is because of Outlook and Outlook express -- which are ENTRENCHED in the business sector. I told my boss the other day that there's an email client that doesn't have these problems (Mozilla Mail) and his first question was how much does it cost to license. Managers think nothing is free, and if it is it's too good to be true -- and that, just isn't true.
If companies made it a rule to stop using outlook/outlook express, and properly instruct people to never open email attachments from people they don't know, and file extensions that aren't safe (pif, scr, exe) then that alone would stop most viruses in their tracks. But alas, 90% of the office workforce is comprised of mindless drones who barely know how to use outlook in the first place.
you know, i read an article in the paper about all of this. It made the front page. it does say in the very last paragraph that microsoft is the reason we have all these viruses, but i was very upset that the paper didn't say there were alternatives to Windows (Linux and Mac).
I'm glad someone got the word out that this is *just* a windows problem, and that there is choice in this world.
that's just not true. The price of a dual 3ghz xeon with the same ram/etc as a dual 2ghz g5 is abou5 $500 less. for that 500 you get superior software, and according to the spec tests and demos rougly 0.9 to 2.5 times the performance. obviously it depeneds on what you do.
you just can't compare a put together clone with a crafted work of art (visually it is quite stunning).
Or...here's a crazy idea...you could put some virus protection on the systems. We maintain quite a few systems at the Uni and we rarely go on virus calls. Blaster was taken care of in a day or so. Why? Because we install McAfee on the systems and put them on autoupdate. And for the most part, the faculty all keep their systems up to date.
That does no good when the virus hasn't even been updated in our company's norton anti-virus server yet. Even if that was the case, viruses are always out before the anti-virus, so if the company gets it en-mass, you have a hell of a time cleaning it up. Outlook multiplies the problem, because a lot of viruses spready by simply previewing them. Obviously we've mandated that users turn off the preview pane, but that doesn't stop half the people from ignoring it and double clicking to open the email anyways.
Mozilla doesn't prevent Blaster. It doesn't prevent people from opening attachments. It just warns them or maybe you're so lazy and paranoid you plan on forbidding attachments which is just idiotic.
I never said anything about mozilla preventing blaster, i spoke of mozilla mail preventing the ease of infection. half the time our users get viruses because they simply preview the email before anti-virus updates are released. We tell everyone in the company not to open emails with attachments on days where viruses hit hard, and some people still manage to accidently view the email when trying to delete it, or when they haven't heard the announcement.
Let's hope you learn how to be an actual tech before then.
i manage a qmail, apache, mysql, postgres, sftp, and webmail server in my spare time with very strict requirements on security (https, sftp, imap-ssl, pop3-ssl, smtp over tls protocols REQUIRED), and prompt updating. to be honest, i'm better at adiminstrating my linux server than i am the networks at my job because i'm not the boss sysadmin, and i don't care if the company runs itself into the ground using half rate solutions like windows xp with outlook when the boss won't approve a switch.
Helpful hint number one: use virus protection software. This is a no brainer.
Helpful hint: anti-virus software is not a cureall.
Helpful hint number two: never put a PC directly on the wire regardless of OS unless you absolutly must. A router is all of $50. If your users absolutly must have their own unique IP then figure $50 as part of the cost of the PC otherwise throw them behind a NAT will no ports open.
We are behind a firewall, that doesn't sales men and execs from bringing in their infected laptops.
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i too use intellij, and which the eclipse developers would take a look at what IDE innovation really looks like. eclipse has crap template support compared to intellij and eclipse STILL doesn't have dot completion done right like it is in intellij.
According to Steve Jobs himself I don't think we can expect to see a tablet from apple at all. It's a niche product in a niche computer field.
I've long told my friend eric that what linux needed more than anything was an easy to install (think redhat or mandrake) debian based distro. Is this the first distro like that? I wish mandrake would stop using rpms and use debian's apt repository to handle software installing/updating, but alas it seems impossible for Mandrake developers to pull their head out of their ass and realize that rpms are not the way to go.
I've heard of "nipple" input devices on laptops, but this brings it to a whole new level!
what the hell are you talking about?
i went to the finder, hit cmd-K, typed in smb://myserver/share, and it instantly mounted on my desktop. i clicked the eject button in the finder's new sidebar and it unmounted just fine.
apple's isn't better? seen mac os x's expose, genie effect, or fast user switching any time recently?
yet another troll.. move along people
so you'd rather apple base their os off a completely priorietary kernel like NT? you'd rather apple use a centralized, faulty registry system like windows instead of apple's plist preferences system where prefs are independent xml files? would you also like apple to drop their *vastly* superior quartz extreme interface for X11 so that we can live in the 70s again? i'm sure we shouldn't stop there. we should ask apple to stop using apache as the built in web server, ssh as the built in remote login server, and lukeftpd as the built in ftp server.
zealots like you don't look at the whole picture. you use your computer for the sole purpose of running applications. mac can run your applications, or linux, or bsd. the point is relatively moot. apple's choice of applications is based off the open source community. and for THAT, i can forgive just about any atrocity apple commits due to a lifetime of woes that microsoft windows has caused the computer industry. when i use apple's os, at least i'm using an os built off the ideals of oss community, not the embrace and extend policy of the other world.
so give apple some slack. they can't exist with the oss community, so linux and bsd are never going away, and the oss community can't live without the innovation and embracement of the "consumer" os.
people don't change because they don't know macs are better, and they don't like change.
i switched about 8 months ago, and i tell every person i talk to that complains about his pc sucking to get a mac. so far i've switched almost 4 friends.
people ARE switching, however the computer market is growing rapidly and the mac isn't growing as fast.
mac doesn't really sell an "entry level" craptacular beige box, so they don't compete on price. apple competes on quality, and far too many people care about the bottom line - price. it's the american way! in all seriousness, if you take a look at the fact that macs are usually high end (price) and macs have 3% of the market, then 3% of the market wants high end machines. the total market for high end machines might only be 10% tops. mac has a big chunk of the high end market if you look at it from that perspective.
7B85 refers to the version of the darwin kernel. The B does not mean beta. And 7b85 is infact the seed of panther that was announed as the GM version.
they moved the option to set drafts, sent, and trash. click the folder you want to set as trash, click the menu mailbox, then "Use this mailbox for" -> trash you used to be able to set these from ctrl-clicking the folder.. oh well.
if you're like many slashdotters, you want classic to die a horrible death. are there any other drastic differences? i've been running the 7b85 seed for some time now.
that's funny. cause it has a console mode.
it runs all my unix apps.
it has an integrated x11 server.
and it has support from some OS packaging groups (fink, darwinports).
it mounts my nfs shares off my linux desktop.
yeah.. that definatly sounds like it's NOT unix to me. get a life troll.
in many ways i agree with this statement (i'd know since i use a powerbook with programs like gvim frequently). however many mac native apps don't have a command line interface FIRST with a gui later. in fact, just about none do. os x has a few programs such as hdiutil, niutil, defaults, etc that are basically frontends to drive utility, net info, and property list but these seem to be the exception rather than the standard unfortunatly.
And where exactly did kazaa say that the portions of their revenue would go to the RIAA?
What about all those people who have already signed their soul over to the devil? I'm sure if it were as simple as "switching" from one record label to another, many bands would. The choices today are getting better, but the contracts those people have to sign just to get their music on a cd is insane. The record company basically owns their ass for years before they can choose to go somewhere else, and even then in many cases the new record label they go to still has to pay a cut to the previos label.
I've got a DVD burner.. I've had one for awhile now. Is there any compelling reason the Knoppix site isn't hosting the linuxtag dvd yet, or why it isn't being pushed more? The concept of being able to fit nearly anything you want on one disk, and being able to show anyone with a dvd drive the huge amount of free software available in linux would be nice..
when you say "non-damaging" that depends on the window really. mac has the concept of "click through" buttons and non-click through buttons, where click-through means you can perform an action on a window out of focus. by default the controls in os x do not click-through unless explicitly set. the exception for that is the control buttons (close, zoom, minimize) are always click through
in regards to pie menus: YES! pie menus are the most efficient menu design possible, and i completely agree.
wow that's funny. i wrote rant about this very same topic just the other day on my website.
It's about time we started playing catchup with BeOS's filesystem. Though this seems more user-land when a function like this (file systems) should be more kernel-land.
:)
This is essentialy what Longhorn's taked on SQL extensions are going to provide, and I had no idea there was ongoing progress to have this functional in *nix so soon! By the time 2005 rolls around, I have a feeling this will be a lot further a long than microsoft's implementation.
*cracks whip* On zerocool, on uberh4ck3r, on coding monkey! We're catching up
after doing some searching i found out that the project is officially called DarWine. It is a port of wine to the PPC architecture, backed by bochs. it's still a translation layer -- there's nothing stopping you from porting wine to another platform. it just doesn't do much good if there isn't a way to run the x86 compiled binaries, and this is where bochs comes in.
i think the key word here is "port." It's not emulating linux. when i run konqueror in os x using fink, i'm not "emulating" linux to run konqueror, i'm running the Qt/X11 based PPC port of Konqueror.
funny that this is posted on winehq.com then. as someone else said, you'd need to hook wine into an x86 emulation engine, but apparently that's being worked on.
Actually that's incorrect. the reason most email/address book viruses spread so fast and cause so much havoc is because of Outlook and Outlook express -- which are ENTRENCHED in the business sector. I told my boss the other day that there's an email client that doesn't have these problems (Mozilla Mail) and his first question was how much does it cost to license. Managers think nothing is free, and if it is it's too good to be true -- and that, just isn't true.
If companies made it a rule to stop using outlook/outlook express, and properly instruct people to never open email attachments from people they don't know, and file extensions that aren't safe (pif, scr, exe) then that alone would stop most viruses in their tracks. But alas, 90% of the office workforce is comprised of mindless drones who barely know how to use outlook in the first place.
you know, i read an article in the paper about all of this.
It made the front page. it does say in the very last paragraph that microsoft is the reason we have all these viruses, but i was very upset that the paper didn't say there were alternatives to Windows (Linux and Mac).
I'm glad someone got the word out that this is *just* a windows problem, and that there is choice in this world.
that's just not true. The price of a dual 3ghz xeon with the same ram/etc as a dual 2ghz g5 is abou5 $500 less. for that 500 you get superior software, and according to the spec tests and demos rougly 0.9 to 2.5 times the performance. obviously it depeneds on what you do.
you just can't compare a put together clone with a crafted work of art (visually it is quite stunning).
Or...here's a crazy idea...you could put some virus protection on the systems. We maintain quite a few systems at the Uni and we rarely go on virus calls. Blaster was taken care of in a day or so. Why? Because we install McAfee on the systems and put them on autoupdate. And for the most part, the faculty all keep their systems up to date.
That does no good when the virus hasn't even been updated in our company's norton anti-virus server yet. Even if that was the case, viruses are always out before the anti-virus, so if the company gets it en-mass, you have a hell of a time cleaning it up. Outlook multiplies the problem, because a lot of viruses spready by simply previewing them. Obviously we've mandated that users turn off the preview pane, but that doesn't stop half the people from ignoring it and double clicking to open the email anyways.
Mozilla doesn't prevent Blaster. It doesn't prevent people from opening attachments. It just warns them or maybe you're so lazy and paranoid you plan on forbidding attachments which is just idiotic.
I never said anything about mozilla preventing blaster, i spoke of mozilla mail preventing the ease of infection. half the time our users get viruses because they simply preview the email before anti-virus updates are released. We tell everyone in the company not to open emails with attachments on days where viruses hit hard, and some people still manage to accidently view the email when trying to delete it, or when they haven't heard the announcement.
Let's hope you learn how to be an actual tech before then.
i manage a qmail, apache, mysql, postgres, sftp, and webmail server in my spare time with very strict requirements on security (https, sftp, imap-ssl, pop3-ssl, smtp over tls protocols REQUIRED), and prompt updating. to be honest, i'm better at adiminstrating my linux server than i am the networks at my job because i'm not the boss sysadmin, and i don't care if the company runs itself into the ground using half rate solutions like windows xp with outlook when the boss won't approve a switch.
Helpful hint number one: use virus protection software. This is a no brainer.
Helpful hint: anti-virus software is not a cureall.
Helpful hint number two: never put a PC directly on the wire regardless of OS unless you absolutly must. A router is all of $50. If your users absolutly must have their own unique IP then figure $50 as part of the cost of the PC otherwise throw them behind a NAT will no ports open. We are behind a firewall, that doesn't sales men and execs from bringing in their infected laptops.