So I haven't looked into the price of dvd media for a few months, sue me. I have no reason to own a DVD burner, and therefore no reason to look into direct pricing. It was a freaking example, sue me.
And as I said earlier, I'm not talkign buying in bulk, I'm talking about if you were to buy a single DVD or DVD-RW.
Actually, if someone really wanted to be able to get Linux on a Cube they could do so easily, but they'd just have to go the route of any normal developer and get professional pressing done.
The software wouldnt have to be licensed by Nintendo, ala the Action Replay or Freeloader, and would take some money to do, but I'd be willing to pay $50 for a knoppix-like disc for my GameCube using the memory card as a storage device (and soon the SD memory card adaptor).
Personally I think an officially licensed linux distro for a console would be a huge selling point. If Nintendo or Sony (we all know Microsoft would never go for it) could set something up, it'd be HUGE.
Actually Sega, Sony, Microsoft AND Nintendo have all taken hits on their console sales. Sega did so with the Dreamcast, Sony did on the PS1 and PS2, and Microsoft did it for the Xbox. Up until the GameCube, Nintendo has never taken a hit on their console sales. They've always made sure that they were getting at least some kind of profit on hardware sales, however for this generation Nintendo is taking a small hit on console sales. Not near as much of one as Microsoft and Sony, but they're taking a hit none-the-less. Console makers depend on software sales to make money, it's as simple as that.
Well first you need some gasoline and a lighter. The easiest way would be to pour the gasoline all over the computer for a minute or two and then light it up, but that could burn more then you planned. You best bet would be to open up the case and take out hte hard drive and just burn that.
I wasnt saying that piracy killed the Dreamcast, I was saying taht in reply to the first post, if piracy HELPED a system, then the Dreamcast WOULDN'T be dead because it was easily the most pirated system ever.
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If systems really sell because of modding, than the Dreamcast Wouldn't be dead today now would it?
I really hate when someone tries and makes this arguement because it makes piracy look like a good thing. All piracy does is take money from the developers who are struggling to make a buck to begin with.
I'm talking about walking into Best Buy and picking up a blank DVD. Sure you can get them cheap if you know where to look, but I'm talking mass-market here.
As for your little "open-source" comment, this article is all about ISOs, not about the ability to run linux on my beloved Cube. The modchip comment was the smallest arguement I made, and you forget that NO ONE will see a modchip as an open source medium, especially not those that matter (aka NINTENDO).
OMG I R SO 1337 CUZ I CAN DOWNLAODS A GAMECUB ISOZ!
But seriously, you're right Mikey. If/. is the premier "geek news" site, people see this as what geeks are interested in and like. Geeks are not pirates, the only pirates are 12 year old pansies who are too stupid to get a real job to pay for their pastime.
I've seen this on several GameCube sites, and NONE of the ones who reported it are even close to considered decent sites.
I find it funny how this article is on so many different sites, yet there is no proof of anything.
So what? Therea are a few cd dumps of the Wind Waker. The only way possible to get them on an actual system would be to totally replace the drive with one that doesnt just read Nintendo's pseudo-DVDs. It's just like those DVD players that ONLY read dvds, they dont have the physical capability of even reading anything but the GameCube Disc, no audio-cd, video dvd, nothing.
Someone said that GameCube piracy would be much like the Dreamcast, but they forgot that the Dreamcast has the built-in ability to read any kind of disc, the GameCube's laser can ONLY read Nintendo's custom DVD-like discs. So, without a GameCube SDK it's not possible.
Other people are comparing it to the Xbox, with ISOs being released and modchips later. There's an issue with this as well. Every other system has legit, somewhat legal reasons for using modchips: importing games from other regions. It just so happened that those modchips had an alternative "feature" of letting the system read burned discs as if they were real games. The Nintendo has the ability to play other regions built-in, just a little jumper change on the inside and you have a Japanese Cube, change it back and you have a US cube. There is no legal reason for a company to make modchips and therefore anyone mass producing them can be shutdown by Nintendo in a second.
Let's say for a second that these ISOs do exist, and that some moron figures out how to play them on the Cube. It will be more expensive to mod the system, burn the game (10 bucks for a normal sized blank DVD, not sure how much mini-dvds are or if they even exist yet), etc than it would be just to buy the damn thing.
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Finally, someone with some intelligence - i just said the same thing in another reply to someone else... If this isnt a hoax, it's simply a set-top PC and even that is unlikely.
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No, No, and NO! If it is able to play gcn, ps2, and xbox games, sony, ms, and nintendo would sue so damn fast they wouldnt know what hit them. Trust me, this is either a hoax, or a set-top PC. (most likely a hoax considering the lack of info on their site)
It wont be able to emulate games, becuase if it does and they advertise this, nintendo, sony, and microsoft would all sue their asses. Quit dreaming.
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yeah, that'd work - CONSIDERING IT'S ILLEGAL!
There are copyright laws for a reason, and it's very unlikely they'd be able to emulate next gen systems without using any code from the perspective manufacturers. Bleem was lucky with the PSX, it wont happen again.
Then there's the gamecube, which isnt even a normal disc - they'd need a special drive to read the gamecube games, which is proprietary for nintendo. Dream on.
Here's what i dont get. All these marvel comics fans are pissed off about marvel getting some money becuase some judge deemed their toys as "toys" instead of "dolls." Sure, the idea was that if they are human, then they are dolls, and them not being dolls means they are "not human," but who the hell really cares what they are "legally" called?
Think about it. Does this not fit the X-Men story? They struggle to be excepted as humans, but rarely/never are. Now, even in the REAL world that same "struggle" is happening.
Lastly, if marvel gets money out of this, and it means it'll cost them less to import their toys, wouldnt that price most likely come down on the retail end as well? If not, the company has more money to make more badass toys, so why complain?
Seriously, some people need to learn to lighten up.
I dont know what version of mozilla you have, or how crappy of a computer you use, but it runs fast as hell for me. It's at least 10x faster then IE6 on my machine.
Well sorry I couldnt find a Japanese copyright/trademark database, but Sony and Nintendo would have filed with Japan at the same time as the US with the same information. Sony and Nintendo both have divisions in the US.
Regardless SONY still owns both and Nintendo has absolutly no claim in it. Let's just drop the topic because it is completely stupid and pointless. It's fake and that is all that matters.
1) This is a bullitan board system. Our spealing and grammar is supposed to sucks.
2) It was fuggin midnight when I wrote that, I was tired and just got back from a long shift at work.
3) Yes, I am Hooked on Phonics. In fact I think it was Cris D. that found the program for me along with that book by that one guy titled "How to ignore the facts and post bullshit news"
Actually I've been coming for about a year, never done the forums thing until recently. However because of my affiliation with the subject matter, and already being pissed off about the overdone coverage of this rumor and the "megaton" rumor (which is also total bullshit). The video game world is filled with this crap, the very reason I ignore 99.9% of rumors until they happen.
Oh well, enough ranting for one day...
Slight correction, the source I got my information on was a bit wrong (NextGen Magazine) and in Steven Kent's Book he says that Nintendo dropped Sony becuase they found out the PlayStation was being developed alongside the SNES CD and saw Sony as a threat. That is where Phillips/Nintendo partnership came in and how Phillips got 3 shitty zelda games. Nintendo pulled out of hte PHILLIPS partnership thanks to Sega CD's flopping.
Thanks to StrikerObi at Planetgamecube for pointing that tidbit out to me. I was close enough;)
Either way PlayStation was NEVER a part of NINTENDO and SONY registered it officially, therefore THEY still own the copyright.
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So I haven't looked into the price of dvd media for a few months, sue me. I have no reason to own a DVD burner, and therefore no reason to look into direct pricing. It was a freaking example, sue me. And as I said earlier, I'm not talkign buying in bulk, I'm talking about if you were to buy a single DVD or DVD-RW.
Actually, if someone really wanted to be able to get Linux on a Cube they could do so easily, but they'd just have to go the route of any normal developer and get professional pressing done.
The software wouldnt have to be licensed by Nintendo, ala the Action Replay or Freeloader, and would take some money to do, but I'd be willing to pay $50 for a knoppix-like disc for my GameCube using the memory card as a storage device (and soon the SD memory card adaptor).
Personally I think an officially licensed linux distro for a console would be a huge selling point. If Nintendo or Sony (we all know Microsoft would never go for it) could set something up, it'd be HUGE.
Actually Sega, Sony, Microsoft AND Nintendo have all taken hits on their console sales. Sega did so with the Dreamcast, Sony did on the PS1 and PS2, and Microsoft did it for the Xbox. Up until the GameCube, Nintendo has never taken a hit on their console sales. They've always made sure that they were getting at least some kind of profit on hardware sales, however for this generation Nintendo is taking a small hit on console sales. Not near as much of one as Microsoft and Sony, but they're taking a hit none-the-less. Console makers depend on software sales to make money, it's as simple as that.
Well first you need some gasoline and a lighter. The easiest way would be to pour the gasoline all over the computer for a minute or two and then light it up, but that could burn more then you planned. You best bet would be to open up the case and take out hte hard drive and just burn that.
I wasnt saying that piracy killed the Dreamcast, I was saying taht in reply to the first post, if piracy HELPED a system, then the Dreamcast WOULDN'T be dead because it was easily the most pirated system ever.
If systems really sell because of modding, than the Dreamcast Wouldn't be dead today now would it? I really hate when someone tries and makes this arguement because it makes piracy look like a good thing. All piracy does is take money from the developers who are struggling to make a buck to begin with.
And it's morons like you that make me feel sorry for the future of gaming.
I'm talking about walking into Best Buy and picking up a blank DVD. Sure you can get them cheap if you know where to look, but I'm talking mass-market here. As for your little "open-source" comment, this article is all about ISOs, not about the ability to run linux on my beloved Cube. The modchip comment was the smallest arguement I made, and you forget that NO ONE will see a modchip as an open source medium, especially not those that matter (aka NINTENDO).
OMG I R SO 1337 CUZ I CAN DOWNLAODS A GAMECUB ISOZ! But seriously, you're right Mikey. If /. is the premier "geek news" site, people see this as what geeks are interested in and like. Geeks are not pirates, the only pirates are 12 year old pansies who are too stupid to get a real job to pay for their pastime.
I've seen this on several GameCube sites, and NONE of the ones who reported it are even close to considered decent sites.
I find it funny how this article is on so many different sites, yet there is no proof of anything.
So what? Therea are a few cd dumps of the Wind Waker. The only way possible to get them on an actual system would be to totally replace the drive with one that doesnt just read Nintendo's pseudo-DVDs. It's just like those DVD players that ONLY read dvds, they dont have the physical capability of even reading anything but the GameCube Disc, no audio-cd, video dvd, nothing.
Someone said that GameCube piracy would be much like the Dreamcast, but they forgot that the Dreamcast has the built-in ability to read any kind of disc, the GameCube's laser can ONLY read Nintendo's custom DVD-like discs. So, without a GameCube SDK it's not possible.
Other people are comparing it to the Xbox, with ISOs being released and modchips later. There's an issue with this as well. Every other system has legit, somewhat legal reasons for using modchips: importing games from other regions. It just so happened that those modchips had an alternative "feature" of letting the system read burned discs as if they were real games. The Nintendo has the ability to play other regions built-in, just a little jumper change on the inside and you have a Japanese Cube, change it back and you have a US cube. There is no legal reason for a company to make modchips and therefore anyone mass producing them can be shutdown by Nintendo in a second.
Let's say for a second that these ISOs do exist, and that some moron figures out how to play them on the Cube. It will be more expensive to mod the system, burn the game (10 bucks for a normal sized blank DVD, not sure how much mini-dvds are or if they even exist yet), etc than it would be just to buy the damn thing.
Finally, someone with some intelligence - i just said the same thing in another reply to someone else... If this isnt a hoax, it's simply a set-top PC and even that is unlikely.
No, No, and NO! If it is able to play gcn, ps2, and xbox games, sony, ms, and nintendo would sue so damn fast they wouldnt know what hit them. Trust me, this is either a hoax, or a set-top PC. (most likely a hoax considering the lack of info on their site)
Of course it's a joke - remember that mavav.org bullshit a while back? Mothers against violent something something. dur.
It wont be able to emulate games, becuase if it does and they advertise this, nintendo, sony, and microsoft would all sue their asses. Quit dreaming.
yeah, that'd work - CONSIDERING IT'S ILLEGAL! There are copyright laws for a reason, and it's very unlikely they'd be able to emulate next gen systems without using any code from the perspective manufacturers. Bleem was lucky with the PSX, it wont happen again.
Then there's the gamecube, which isnt even a normal disc - they'd need a special drive to read the gamecube games, which is proprietary for nintendo. Dream on.
Here's what i dont get. All these marvel comics fans are pissed off about marvel getting some money becuase some judge deemed their toys as "toys" instead of "dolls." Sure, the idea was that if they are human, then they are dolls, and them not being dolls means they are "not human," but who the hell really cares what they are "legally" called? Think about it. Does this not fit the X-Men story? They struggle to be excepted as humans, but rarely/never are. Now, even in the REAL world that same "struggle" is happening. Lastly, if marvel gets money out of this, and it means it'll cost them less to import their toys, wouldnt that price most likely come down on the retail end as well? If not, the company has more money to make more badass toys, so why complain? Seriously, some people need to learn to lighten up.
I dont know what version of mozilla you have, or how crappy of a computer you use, but it runs fast as hell for me. It's at least 10x faster then IE6 on my machine.
Where are these demos you speak of?
Well sorry I couldnt find a Japanese copyright/trademark database, but Sony and Nintendo would have filed with Japan at the same time as the US with the same information. Sony and Nintendo both have divisions in the US. Regardless SONY still owns both and Nintendo has absolutly no claim in it. Let's just drop the topic because it is completely stupid and pointless. It's fake and that is all that matters.
1) This is a bullitan board system. Our spealing and grammar is supposed to sucks. 2) It was fuggin midnight when I wrote that, I was tired and just got back from a long shift at work. 3) Yes, I am Hooked on Phonics. In fact I think it was Cris D. that found the program for me along with that book by that one guy titled "How to ignore the facts and post bullshit news"
You don't chat much do you. There are so many stupid people that believe that crap it's not even funny.
Actually I've been coming for about a year, never done the forums thing until recently. However because of my affiliation with the subject matter, and already being pissed off about the overdone coverage of this rumor and the "megaton" rumor (which is also total bullshit). The video game world is filled with this crap, the very reason I ignore 99.9% of rumors until they happen. Oh well, enough ranting for one day...
The site took the article down for fear of the slashdot effect killing their bandwidth limit. It was working at the time of the post.
Slight correction, the source I got my information on was a bit wrong (NextGen Magazine) and in Steven Kent's Book he says that Nintendo dropped Sony becuase they found out the PlayStation was being developed alongside the SNES CD and saw Sony as a threat. That is where Phillips/Nintendo partnership came in and how Phillips got 3 shitty zelda games. Nintendo pulled out of hte PHILLIPS partnership thanks to Sega CD's flopping. Thanks to StrikerObi at Planetgamecube for pointing that tidbit out to me. I was close enough ;)
Either way PlayStation was NEVER a part of NINTENDO and SONY registered it officially, therefore THEY still own the copyright.
I am in total disbalief that an upstanding bullshit free site such as slashdot as posted this article. For one, Nintendo has never had ANY stake in the playstation name. Nintendo and Sony's partnership on the then dubbed "SNES CD" ended without the project going anywhere. Because of Sega CDs flop, Nintendo pulled out extremely early in the process and left Sony to develope it alone. AFTER Nintendo left the partnership is when Sony took up the PlayStation name. Check out Copyright.gov if you dont believe me. 3. Registration Number: VA-759-813 Title: PlayStation. Description: Computer graphic. Claimant: acSony Computer Entertainment, Inc. Created: 1994 Published: 10May94 Registered: 2Apr96 Title on © Application: PS device. Special Codes: 5/S The official copyright database says NOTHING ABOUT NINTENDO. There is no way in hell that Nintendo could POSSIBLY win this suit, and there's no way in hell they are dumb enough to pursue it. I have lost much faith in my beloved slashdot for posting such total unofficial rumored bullshit.