Look, it's the classic "this idea isn't appropriate in this one instance, so it's a dumb idea" argument.
*OF COURSE* you wouldn't read aloud your VPN password in an airport terminal. But I could see telling a HTPC "channel 63" or "mute" or "pause" while I'm sitting on a couch instead of using a remote. I could see giving the computer instructions while I'm working on something else. Say you're eating breakfast. Instead of reading the newspaper, you have a computer read you the news (or just display it), and you control it with voice commands.
And this isn't even touching on accessibility concerns.
Depends... Gentoo docs are generally VERY thorough, so I think that it would be possible to start with it. However, you have to be of the right mentality I think... you have to be a tinkerer, not mind doing some work to get things to work sometimes, be perhaps a bit of a control freak, and you have to have patience. Gentoo is a great distro (my desktop dual-boots XP and Gentoo, and I've been using it for a couple years now), but if you want to pop the CD in and have a working system in 30 min or an hour, you have to look elsewhere. (Even with the Gentoo reference packages I suspect.)
My personal feeling right now is that either Ubuntu or Debian would be best. Like Gentoo, they have excellent package management, but don't have to go through the things that go with compiling everything.
I just did the exact same thing myself. I don't know what type of computer this guy had, but I installed Etch on a Thinkpad 390X this past Friday. (That's like a 5 year old at least model I got for $40 used...) It went suprisingly simply actually. It even detected my wireless card no problems, which really surprised me.
The only hitch in the procedure that is even sorta the fault of Linux is that I don't know how to get it so that the computer will hibernate/resume.
After all that is said, they did still have LCARS and all, so it isn't like voice interaction was the only way to work with the computer.
Indeed. According to the Star Trek: Next Generation Technical Manual (p. 33), "keyboard input is preferred in most situations for greater operating speed and reduced chance of input error by voice discriminator algorithms." So it looks like Starfleet thinks that the voice input feature is not ideal. Though, I think for your queries above, it probably would be faster, especially if you had to search for options.
-formatted lists look nicer. (Especially if you have multiple lines with a proportional font, because then it gets indented correctly.) Just like nothing's wrong with writing bold text with *blah* and similar things, but the html version is still better looking.
Books generally go out of print for a reason - because the demand for them sinks below a profitable level and/or interest in them drops to near zero.
Which is *exactly* where POD shows its most promise. Without the costs of shipping and stocking the item, things that were not profitable before can become profitable.
Not only that, but we're talking about running Vista on a Mac. The Vista Home license only forbids using the SAME license for both host and guest OS. But if you're on a Mac, guess what... you're not using it for the host OS.
If the BBC transferred copyright to Warner in the US (I'm not 100% sure this is possible and it's probably not done in any case), then the BBC can't authorize it any more than the torrent originator can authorize that D/L. Now, anyone who gets it would have a very strong case to plead ignorance, and if the BBC *didn't* transfer copyright then it doesn't involve anyone who downloads it.
1. Open explorer 2. Open the desktop, but expand the tree view so you can see, say, C:\program files 3. Click on program files 4. Press backspace 5. Watch as you change to C:\ rather than desktop
1-3. As above 4. Click in the main file view 5. Press backspace 6. Watch as you change to C:\ rather than desktop
...none of those are going to be particularly attractive to most people.
Most people don't care if you can bypass driver signing or not. Almost all vendors have been signing drivers since XP (since $300-$500 for them is nothing; a day of programmer time will cost them more), so it's not like there are going to be "this hardware won't work on Vista" issues (at least because of signing) for actual hardware. Heck, it's not like most users even replace hardware to begin with. And how many people are running third-party drivers that didn't come with a particular hardware device?
I can run 'rm -rf ~' from user mode without rooting the system. Doing so would do 90% of the damage that 'rm -rf/' would.
If you have a properly set up multi-user system, yes, it makes a difference; but if you don't, for 95% of the people out there (I'm one of them) who doesn't routinely back up, the former is just as damaging as the latter. So if I can break a user application and coerce it to do the former, why would I want root?
(And A LOT of the malware behavior that's out there is stuff that wouldn't need root.)
What say people chip in a few bucks for the appropriate certificate from Very$lime and then leak it onto the Internet or share it amongst themselves? Call it the Windows Authors' Collective or some such thing.
I'm pretty sure that Verisign and/or MS can revoke said certificats.
The fact that you essentially need a license to develop kernel-mode software for Vista galls me.
You "need" a license to distribute it in a usable form, but you don't need one to develop at all since you can control the "hit F8" thing.
It wouldn't be too much harder to simply locate the thing you want, instead of doing it like you did, I'm sure
It is if the reason you're doing it in the first place is because you need a vulnerability to get your code running on the system, it's sorta hard to locate the thing you want until you've already done that.
I haven't bothered to research the tech......but I feel like I can just spout random crap about it anyway
it will probably be mostly useless
OpenBSD and the NSA [SELinux] disagree.
take up additional processor/memory speed
No additional memory, and only an increase in the time it takes when first loading a DLL (such as on boot). Once the DLL's loaded, accesses don't change.
be disabled on all old system
I can't speak to this, so I won't say anything.
and users will likely disable it on new systems because it causes errors with some game they play.
I guess theoretically possible, but to break because of ASLR the game would have to be doing something extremely non-kosher like using hard coded addresses. And since those addresses can change from version-to-version (or even just patch-to-patch), the chance that it'd run under Vista w/o ASLR is extraordinarily slim.
There are two ways of exploiting a buffer overflow: you can make code in the buffer execute, or you can make code that already exists in the system execute with parameters from the buffer. The former is prevented by NX protection in most cases. The latter is made substantially more difficult by ASLR.
There's a third way, which is to corrupt other security-sensitive data, but leave the control flow (i.e. the return address on the stack) unchanged.
And yet I think I've read something where Linus said that had they not switched to BK, Linux would not be where it is now. This isn't it, but it still has some choice comments:
I decided to bite the bullet and just see what life without BK looks like. So far it's a gray and bleak world;)
So the three years with BK are definitely not wasted: I'm convinced it caused us to do things in better ways, and one of the things I'm looking at is to make sure that those things continue to work.
So I just wanted to say that I'm personally very happy with BK, and with Larry.
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Look, it's the classic "this idea isn't appropriate in this one instance, so it's a dumb idea" argument.
*OF COURSE* you wouldn't read aloud your VPN password in an airport terminal. But I could see telling a HTPC "channel 63" or "mute" or "pause" while I'm sitting on a couch instead of using a remote. I could see giving the computer instructions while I'm working on something else. Say you're eating breakfast. Instead of reading the newspaper, you have a computer read you the news (or just display it), and you control it with voice commands.
And this isn't even touching on accessibility concerns.
Depends... Gentoo docs are generally VERY thorough, so I think that it would be possible to start with it. However, you have to be of the right mentality I think... you have to be a tinkerer, not mind doing some work to get things to work sometimes, be perhaps a bit of a control freak, and you have to have patience. Gentoo is a great distro (my desktop dual-boots XP and Gentoo, and I've been using it for a couple years now), but if you want to pop the CD in and have a working system in 30 min or an hour, you have to look elsewhere. (Even with the Gentoo reference packages I suspect.)
My personal feeling right now is that either Ubuntu or Debian would be best. Like Gentoo, they have excellent package management, but don't have to go through the things that go with compiling everything.
The only hitch in the procedure that is even sorta the fault of Linux is that I don't know how to get it so that the computer will hibernate/resume.
Oh yeah, and my sound card doesn't work.
I just did the exact same thing myself. I don't know what type of computer this guy had, but I installed Etch on a Thinkpad 390X this past Friday. (That's like a 5 year old at least model I got for $40 used...) It went suprisingly simply actually. It even detected my wireless card no problems, which really surprised me.
The only hitch in the procedure that is even sorta the fault of Linux is that I don't know how to get it so that the computer will hibernate/resume.
After all that is said, they did still have LCARS and all, so it isn't like voice interaction was the only way to work with the computer.
Indeed. According to the Star Trek: Next Generation Technical Manual (p. 33), "keyboard input is preferred in most situations for greater operating speed and reduced chance of input error by voice discriminator algorithms." So it looks like Starfleet thinks that the voice input feature is not ideal. Though, I think for your queries above, it probably would be faster, especially if you had to search for options.
-formatted lists look nicer. (Especially if you have multiple lines with a proportional font, because then it gets indented correctly.) Just like nothing's wrong with writing bold text with *blah* and similar things, but the html version is still better looking.
Books generally go out of print for a reason - because the demand for them sinks below a profitable level and/or interest in them drops to near zero.
Which is *exactly* where POD shows its most promise. Without the costs of shipping and stocking the item, things that were not profitable before can become profitable.
Not only that, but we're talking about running Vista on a Mac. The Vista Home license only forbids using the SAME license for both host and guest OS. But if you're on a Mac, guess what... you're not using it for the host OS.
If the BBC transferred copyright to Warner in the US (I'm not 100% sure this is possible and it's probably not done in any case), then the BBC can't authorize it any more than the torrent originator can authorize that D/L. Now, anyone who gets it would have a very strong case to plead ignorance, and if the BBC *didn't* transfer copyright then it doesn't involve anyone who downloads it.
IANAL, blah blah
Not on my XP.
1. Open explorer
2. Open the desktop, but expand the tree view so you can see, say, C:\program files
3. Click on program files
4. Press backspace
5. Watch as you change to C:\ rather than desktop
1-3. As above
4. Click in the main file view
5. Press backspace
6. Watch as you change to C:\ rather than desktop
Imagine if everyone only used appropriate analogies...
Never mind, that's too hard.
...none of those are going to be particularly attractive to most people.
Most people don't care if you can bypass driver signing or not. Almost all vendors have been signing drivers since XP (since $300-$500 for them is nothing; a day of programmer time will cost them more), so it's not like there are going to be "this hardware won't work on Vista" issues (at least because of signing) for actual hardware. Heck, it's not like most users even replace hardware to begin with. And how many people are running third-party drivers that didn't come with a particular hardware device?
It reminds me of the Apple "I'm a PC" commercials that grate against my sensibilities worse than most negative campaign ads from politics.
Does this include calling someone a shill with no evidence?
What about me calling you a hypocrite?
I am so glad that he showed what a difference can make, because I was *really* getting annoyed at having to wait that extra
I can run 'rm -rf ~' from user mode without rooting the system. Doing so would do 90% of the damage that 'rm -rf /' would.
If you have a properly set up multi-user system, yes, it makes a difference; but if you don't, for 95% of the people out there (I'm one of them) who doesn't routinely back up, the former is just as damaging as the latter. So if I can break a user application and coerce it to do the former, why would I want root?
(And A LOT of the malware behavior that's out there is stuff that wouldn't need root.)
What say people chip in a few bucks for the appropriate certificate from Very$lime and then leak it onto the Internet or share it amongst themselves? Call it the Windows Authors' Collective or some such thing.
I'm pretty sure that Verisign and/or MS can revoke said certificats.
The fact that you essentially need a license to develop kernel-mode software for Vista galls me.
You "need" a license to distribute it in a usable form, but you don't need one to develop at all since you can control the "hit F8" thing.
It wouldn't be too much harder to simply locate the thing you want, instead of doing it like you did, I'm sure
...but I feel like I can just spout random crap about it anyway
It is if the reason you're doing it in the first place is because you need a vulnerability to get your code running on the system, it's sorta hard to locate the thing you want until you've already done that.
I haven't bothered to research the tech...
it will probably be mostly useless
OpenBSD and the NSA [SELinux] disagree.
take up additional processor/memory speed
No additional memory, and only an increase in the time it takes when first loading a DLL (such as on boot). Once the DLL's loaded, accesses don't change.
be disabled on all old system
I can't speak to this, so I won't say anything.
and users will likely disable it on new systems because it causes errors with some game they play.
I guess theoretically possible, but to break because of ASLR the game would have to be doing something extremely non-kosher like using hard coded addresses. And since those addresses can change from version-to-version (or even just patch-to-patch), the chance that it'd run under Vista w/o ASLR is extraordinarily slim.
There are two ways of exploiting a buffer overflow: you can make code in the buffer execute, or you can make code that already exists in the system execute with parameters from the buffer. The former is prevented by NX protection in most cases. The latter is made substantially more difficult by ASLR.
There's a third way, which is to corrupt other security-sensitive data, but leave the control flow (i.e. the return address on the stack) unchanged.
And yet I think I've read something where Linus said that had they not switched to BK, Linux would not be where it is now. This isn't it, but it still has some choice comments:
And yet Linus has said that even with the Bitkeeper fiasco, Linux would not be where it is if they hadn't used it.
If you are going to run closed, proprietary, unaudited code in ring 0, what benefits do you think you are going to get from running a Free/Open OS?
Maybe I'm cheap and don't feel like buying Windows (i.e. I'm interested in the "free as in beer" aspect.)?
(Cygwin also has some problems, at least on my configuration.)
The closed source drivers lag on the bleeding edge?
Which has driver support for XGL-like effects: the nVidia closed source driver, or the nv open source one?
To make such a blanket statement like that's silly.
I don't think that's true. I read the summary as "despite the copyright on these editions still applying, they are being released..."
Not just performances though, but publications of the sheet music.