What? He's not complaining about high version *numbers*, he's complaining about the lack of numbers. If you were to go back 10 years and ask someone "Will Windows XP or ME" come first, you'd almost certainly be at chance. If you were to go back and ask the same question of Emacs 18 v. 21, you'd have near perfect.
What if studios didn't tell people what they were doing until they had a few people snagged? Any particular technique wouldn't last long, but there would usually be something they could do. Maybe change the scene the names at the beginning appear with. There are enough things that could be done that many people could be ferrited out.
The problem is that many of the high quality pirated copies of movies have been pirated from Oscar and other screeners, not that the award shows themselves have anything to do with the pirating.
Ah, but that's not the discussion here. We're talking about whether the congresscritter did his job, which is to represent the people *of his district*. He wasn't elected to serve the 50 million people who are on the list, he was elected to do what he thought was best for his region. If he thinks that voting against the bill is best for the region, he's doing his job.
In fact, I'd say he's in a decent situation... he knew that he could vote against the bill to appease the employees of the telemarketing company while offering really no chance of blocking the bill, so the people who want the list are still happy, though less so than if he had voted for it. So he is sure to get support from many of the employees while probably losing very few.
Because we all know that people let the issue of not being annoyed by telemarketers trumps less important ones such as abortion, the degree of environmental protection, the merits and demertis of social security and medicare and other welfare programs, etc.
Thought the difference isn't as great as just that implies, because there are also many people with more than one phone number associated with them, especially if people sign up cell phones and even moreso if businesses can register.
Oh, but they would be contributing back; without copyright, you can reverse engineer Wndows to you heart's delight, peop;e who work for MS could release code, etc.
This is also the worst I've seen in terms of email viruses. Despite using my mail rather sloppily (including on newsgroups) I don't normally get that many infected emails. But in the last 48 hours I've gotten over 80 of these damn things...
"However, since I, like most, purchased a hard drive to use within a computer, I expect the magnitude prefixes to accurately reflect the context of use, not some marketing scheme"
And you're missing my entire point... *I* would expect the computer versions of the magnitude prefixes to match the rest of the world.
Yes, but imagine that the CD-R industry had redefined the word "ten" to mean "9" because it was convienient to do so; then your analogy would be complete. The HD companies are arguibly more correct in this case as they are using the definition that is used everywhere else.
Note that I went into US mode there; it's possible that Canada or other is different. If you too are talking about US law, continue...
Cite where this is from. All decisions on what is fair use and what is not are judicial and when people say "parodies are allowed" they are citing case law rather than Congressional decisions. The word "parody" does not appear in Title 17 for instance, nor does "satire", at least if Cornell's search is worth its salt.
However, the MP3 is not an "independent fixation of other sounds", if it was not considered tantamount to the original it would almost certianly be considered a derivative work.
Copyright law makes no such restriction, though it does say that the purpose for which the material used is one of the criteria that need to be used in determining fair use. Even commercial uses are allowed provided the judge feels the total of all the criteria is acceptable. Otherwise commercial parodies, satires, etc. would be out.
But yes, I agree in this part that I think claiming a P2P service that uses this protocol constitutes fair use is pressing it.
And I agree... so by locking out the third-party programs which they aren't even losing money to or anything, they are decreasing their user base harming it further. Which is why I don't get why they wouldn't *welcome* third-party software.
"Of course, no patches have been installed, since they are available as downloads unless MIT is distributing service packs and patches to the students via CD."
This is not unlikely, especially given this policy. PSU had a massive PR campaign called "disinfect before you connect" where they printed what must be a couple thousand CDs with the patches and stuff, and handed out flyers to everyone, and had RAs try to get people to patch, and stuff like that.
Many colleges don't allow devices such as hubs to be connected to networks; PSU says that the only thing you may connect is a PC. And I'd argue that most college students *are* "too fucking poor" for a hardware firewall to be a worthwhile investment.
"If they let just anybody connect to the servers, what incentive would you have to shell out $27/month for AOL."
Um, anyone *can* connect. The AIM client is free. How does AOL benefit from people using AIM proper over a third-party app, with the exception of a small amount of advertisement?
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What? He's not complaining about high version *numbers*, he's complaining about the lack of numbers. If you were to go back 10 years and ask someone "Will Windows XP or ME" come first, you'd almost certainly be at chance. If you were to go back and ask the same question of Emacs 18 v. 21, you'd have near perfect.
That's why they *didn't* just post torrent links.
Oh, and mine is going 240 down 270 up, so I'm happy.
For the links in the story, you need BitTorrent. Google for it.
What if studios didn't tell people what they were doing until they had a few people snagged? Any particular technique wouldn't last long, but there would usually be something they could do. Maybe change the scene the names at the beginning appear with. There are enough things that could be done that many people could be ferrited out.
The problem is that many of the high quality pirated copies of movies have been pirated from Oscar and other screeners, not that the award shows themselves have anything to do with the pirating.
The credit roll time could be a very possible option; with other things you take the chance of losing the stenography with the compression.
Ah, but that's not the discussion here. We're talking about whether the congresscritter did his job, which is to represent the people *of his district*. He wasn't elected to serve the 50 million people who are on the list, he was elected to do what he thought was best for his region. If he thinks that voting against the bill is best for the region, he's doing his job.
In fact, I'd say he's in a decent situation... he knew that he could vote against the bill to appease the employees of the telemarketing company while offering really no chance of blocking the bill, so the people who want the list are still happy, though less so than if he had voted for it. So he is sure to get support from many of the employees while probably losing very few.
As long as I can yell out my window and tell them to turn off their music and they do so, that's fine by me.
Because we all know that people let the issue of not being annoyed by telemarketers trumps less important ones such as abortion, the degree of environmental protection, the merits and demertis of social security and medicare and other welfare programs, etc.
Thought the difference isn't as great as just that implies, because there are also many people with more than one phone number associated with them, especially if people sign up cell phones and even moreso if businesses can register.
Oh, but they would be contributing back; without copyright, you can reverse engineer Wndows to you heart's delight, peop;e who work for MS could release code, etc.
This is also the worst I've seen in terms of email viruses. Despite using my mail rather sloppily (including on newsgroups) I don't normally get that many infected emails. But in the last 48 hours I've gotten over 80 of these damn things...
"However, since I, like most, purchased a hard drive to use within a computer, I expect the magnitude prefixes to accurately reflect the context of use, not some marketing scheme"
And you're missing my entire point... *I* would expect the computer versions of the magnitude prefixes to match the rest of the world.
Yes, because auto manufacturers can't measure the volumes of their engines to better than the nearest 100cc...
Yes, but imagine that the CD-R industry had redefined the word "ten" to mean "9" because it was convienient to do so; then your analogy would be complete. The HD companies are arguibly more correct in this case as they are using the definition that is used everywhere else.
Note that I went into US mode there; it's possible that Canada or other is different. If you too are talking about US law, continue...
Cite where this is from. All decisions on what is fair use and what is not are judicial and when people say "parodies are allowed" they are citing case law rather than Congressional decisions. The word "parody" does not appear in Title 17 for instance, nor does "satire", at least if Cornell's search is worth its salt.
This is the only rational (if stupid nevertheless) explanation explanation I've heard so far.
However, the MP3 is not an "independent fixation of other sounds", if it was not considered tantamount to the original it would almost certianly be considered a derivative work.
Copyright law makes no such restriction, though it does say that the purpose for which the material used is one of the criteria that need to be used in determining fair use. Even commercial uses are allowed provided the judge feels the total of all the criteria is acceptable. Otherwise commercial parodies, satires, etc. would be out.
But yes, I agree in this part that I think claiming a P2P service that uses this protocol constitutes fair use is pressing it.
And I agree... so by locking out the third-party programs which they aren't even losing money to or anything, they are decreasing their user base harming it further. Which is why I don't get why they wouldn't *welcome* third-party software.
Free as in beer, that's why it wasn't capitalized.
"Of course, no patches have been installed, since they are available as downloads unless MIT is distributing service packs and patches to the students via CD."
This is not unlikely, especially given this policy. PSU had a massive PR campaign called "disinfect before you connect" where they printed what must be a couple thousand CDs with the patches and stuff, and handed out flyers to everyone, and had RAs try to get people to patch, and stuff like that.
Many colleges don't allow devices such as hubs to be connected to networks; PSU says that the only thing you may connect is a PC. And I'd argue that most college students *are* "too fucking poor" for a hardware firewall to be a worthwhile investment.
"If they let just anybody connect to the servers, what incentive would you have to shell out $27/month for AOL."
Um, anyone *can* connect. The AIM client is free. How does AOL benefit from people using AIM proper over a third-party app, with the exception of a small amount of advertisement?
Tell that to Barnes and Noble; they should be allowed to reinstate the appearance of a one-click order system.