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Homemade Star Wars Flick/Fanimatrix Movie

Geminus writes "There's a really cool fanmade Star Wars video called 'Duality' in the wild. The homemade video used only three props and apparently the quality was good enough that the makers were hired on by Lucas Films. The film was 90% made with Electric Image Universe, Adobe After Effects, FinalcutPro, and Commotion Pro. Of course the rest was the blood sweat and tears of the crew. I have to admit it is a very good example of what software can do today without million dollar render farms and special effects equipment." And as a followup to the Fanimatrix story the other day, the movie is now available: LarsBT writes "It's out. Get the full movie. Here's the torrents: normal mpeg version torrent (170 MB); Normal Divx version torrent (73 MB); and finally the High quality DivX torrent (135 MB)."

322 comments

  1. Broken? by pouncer7 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Broken link HQ divx? Opera 7.2

    1. Re:Broken? by echucker · · Score: 1

      Not broken.. DLing now. 13 minutes remaining, but I'm sure that'll change REAL soon.

    2. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no - the links are fake. just some little file with gibberish in it.

    3. Re:Broken? by EvanED · · Score: 1

      For the links in the story, you need BitTorrent. Google for it.

    4. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      bittorrent links are fake links. I know what a fucking .torrent file is. it's a fake link.

      now go stare at your not-downloading mpeg for the next 6 hours.

    5. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, good sir, are humor impaired. HAND!!

    6. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well this 89% 115mb of 128.8 file downloading in my bittorrent client must be a really big fake file

    7. Re:Broken? by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      Geez, buddy, calm down. Just leave your window open and calm down. BT relies on everyone doing it at the same time. It's people like you who prevent you from getting good download speeds. Be a good netizen, run BT and leave the window open, and tell others to do the same.

    8. Re:Broken? by drkich · · Score: 3, Informative

      What you don't realize is that the download speed is relative to the upload speed. So if you have very little downloaded, you can not upload very much. However, if you wait a couple of minutes, the rate goes up drastically because you have enough content to share to enough people.

      You really should read about it. The devil's in the details.

    9. Re:Broken? by Zocalo · · Score: 2, Informative
      BitTorrent does tend to bounce around some when you first start downloading, but you need to bear with it. The more you upload back to the system, the more you will be rewarded with improved download speed. I usually end up with a 3:1 download to upload ratio long before I get to 20% completion. It can vary some though; I'm currently at 5:1 and 2:1 on two big files I'm grabbing right now. Once it's stabilised it tends to stay around that point until completion when it changes to 0:1 until you close the dialog.

      Think of it this way: When you start a download you get some credit to get you started. Once your credit has gone you have to acquire more credit by uploading data, each chunk you upload earning you around 3 more chunks worth of download credit. Once your download completes, any further uploads you permit before closing the dialog is pure charity since you get nothing for it other than the karma of contributing to the network.

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    10. Re:Broken? by Mage+Powers · · Score: 1

      hey cool you've kinda screwed up anyone joining you because you only seemed to have given bittorrent a 15 second chance in total, keep up the good work! so what if you wont get a super fast download if only one person has the whole thing. Course I'm getting 20/20 right now :)

    11. Re:Broken? by croddy · · Score: 1
      update! update! update!
      your last chance to persuade me to use bittorrent!

      $ btdownloadheadless The-Fanimatrix-\(MPEG\).mpg

      ERROR:
      got bad file info -

      saving:
      percent done:
      time left:
      download to:
      download rate:
      upload rate:

      ERROR:
      got bad file info -

      saving:
      percent done: 0
      time left: Download Failed!
      download to:
      download rate:
      upload rate:

      $

      wow, this bittorrent sure is the AWESOME!

    12. Re:Broken? by sfire · · Score: 1

      You need to tell bittorrent the name/path of the torrent you want to download, not the file that it has already started.

    13. Re:Broken? by croddy · · Score: 1

      oops. duh!

    14. Re:Broken? by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      You waited 15 seconds, that is the problem.
      It may not be the content distribution system of the future, but it's pretty good for the here and now.

      I've been running this torrent for about 2 minutes now and i'm getting 28 kB/s down and 11 kB/s up

      You need patience young grasshopper.

    15. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, mine's up to 4.3k/s down.
      so this *almost* competes with dialup + a standard ftp server.

    16. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody ever tell you you're a FUCKING RETARD?

    17. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, I've never seen anyone so argumentative over a piece of software.

      Try this:

      btdownloadheadless --url http://www.fanimatrix.net/The-Fanimatrix-(MPEG).mp g.torrent

      Bittorrent works great for most people.

    18. Re:Broken? by waveguide · · Score: 1

      Shame these vids aren't available in something other than torrent. Means at least that I'll never see it.

    19. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WHY oh why can't they just release it on KaZaA or eMule?

      That's what those networks are for and they are much more popular.

      [both KaZaA and eMule have systems in place to create links of hashes to be posted on the web.]

    20. Re:Broken? by rikkards · · Score: 1

      I agree it took me a while to get 5% of the large fanimatrix but once I got to about 6% all of a sudden it spiked to 31kB down and about 21kB up. I am downloading both the 70M and the 128M and will be nice and leave it up overnight.

    21. Re:Broken? by KaiLoi · · Score: 1

      They are also available via http off the main site www.fanimatrix.net

    22. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BitTorrent fucking SUCKS. Why the fuck would you need a fucking GUI for something like this? That means those of us who use text-only terminals (ie. ssh'ed to home from work to download shit so we can watch it later that night) are FUCKED.

      Fuck BitTorrent, and fuck the wxPython horse it rode in on.

    23. Re:Broken? by KaiLoi · · Score: 2, Informative

      btdownloadcurses --url "http://www.fanimatrix.net/The-Fanimatrix-(DivX-5. 1-HQ).avi.torrent"
      ;)

    24. Re:Broken? by D'Sphitz · · Score: 0

      Yeah tell me about it - so far i've uploaded 29MB for the privilege of downloading 17MB, and currently i'm downloading at 0 kbps - impressive.

    25. Re:Broken? by LilJimbo · · Score: 1

      also recall how sometimes *ahem* ok, lets say often, when Slashdot posts something there is a 'Slashdot affect' whatever it is that was linked to gets flooded. For ftp and http downloads this is a definite negative situation for many people who end up waiting for their turn where as with bt as long as several people have the whole thing and assuming people are at least somewhat charitable (ok, that isn't true often but let's assume) then as more people download a file the bandwidth also increases allowing more people to have access to that file...so for now bt is a pretty good thing, of course it isn't the end all be all and it does seem to get at least a few people thinking(thinking = possibility for improvement yay [insert smile here]).. Correct me if I'm off my rocker

    26. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      WHY oh why can't they just release it on KaZaA or eMule?
      Because Kazaa and eMule are fucking terrible. I'm sure it'll be up soon, it'll just be labeled "School.of.Rock(Jack.Black.2003.DivX.CD1).avi" or some shit like that.
    27. Re:Broken? by Mistlefoot · · Score: 1

      This is my 1st experience with BitTorrent as well but I did read the faq after starting the dl. While I found it slow at 1st I am sitting now at 70% and 110KiB/s Down and 45 KiB/s up.

      Not too bad at all.

      I do find that a single file open right now uses about 10% of my system resources on a PII 366 (my old laptop).

      All in all better results than I would see on Kazaa.

      I am a bit at odds as to how easy it would be to find files a week or two old. On Kazaa this is easy but with BitTorrent is seems a file must be left open to be downloadable. Anyone who downloads much can't be leaving much open. This technology might go far with Open Source software releases were the demand is high shortly after the release.

    28. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody ever tell you that people that post comments like this can only be a fucked-up fat, ugly american bastard like yourself. And you wonder why the world hates you? Only your fellow fucked-up porn-crazy fat american bastard trailer-park trash buddies like you.

    29. Re:Broken? by Saiai+Hakutyoutani · · Score: 2, Informative

      The DivX itself is broken. I got it yesterday, and the audio starts desyncing severely near the beginning.

    30. Re:Broken? by Saiai+Hakutyoutani · · Score: 1

      Oh, I meant that to be about Fanimatrix, btw, not Duality. Sorry about that.

    31. Re:Broken? by am+2k · · Score: 1
      Once your download completes, any further uploads you permit before closing the dialog is pure charity
      Not really. The more you upload, the faster it'll be for others, the more people will use it again next time, the faster will be your download next time.
    32. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jokes on you buddy, I'm a fucked-up fat, ugly CANADIAN bastard! And yes, my fellow fucked-up porn-crazy fat Canidian bastard trailer-park trash buddies are quite fond of me.

    33. Re:Broken? by Ripping+Silk · · Score: 1

      I've used bittorrent only twice... the first to get the trailer to this movie.. the second time to get the full length divx movie 128Mb. On both videos the download completed but when playing, the video lasts about 5 seconds then stops, altho the audio continues. tried every type of video player I have.. but no go.. . is it bitorrent or the movie ? shite

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    34. Re:Broken? by Saiai+Hakutyoutani · · Score: 1

      Probably the movie. Try the low-Q MPEG version.

    35. Re:Broken? by nolife · · Score: 1

      If you have having a technical problem, don't give up.. If you just don't want to use it, oh well.
      Just like usenet, there are still the diehard anti yEnc's out there but they are decreasing in number quickly.
      If you can't beat 'em, join 'em

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    36. Re:Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Download rate: 629 KiB/s
      Upload rate: 88 KiB/s

      I like it, rather a lot.

    37. Re:Broken? by inquisitor · · Score: 1

      Since when did BitTorrent require a GUI?

      [inq@aragorn net/py-bittorrent]> uname -sr
      FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE
      [inq@aragorn net/py-bittorrent]> make fetch
      ===> Define WITHOUT_GUI to disable GUI installation


      The GUI is optional. It only depends on WX if you've set it up that way. Same with, say, CVSup on FreeBSD; there's a version which requires X, and cvsup-without-gui which doesn't. Same code; cvsup-without-gui just doesn't compile the X bits.

      Oh, and you can use mldonkey for BitTorrent, which doesn't need a GUI either. Nice try.

    38. Re:Broken? by EvilLumpy · · Score: 1

      Actually it's your DivX codec.. I bet for you the trailer times out JUST at the dance scene right?

      Yeah, get updated, 5.1 is what you need.

      http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX51Bundle.exe

  2. Just watched... by fjordboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just watched the fanimatrix movie..and I gotta admit, it was pretty impressive for a fan film. While the dialogue and actual acting wasn't all that great, the fight scenes were pretty creative and well done. The first fight scene at the goth/rave party thing started out great...the cell phone gag was clever and looked pretty sweet (the rest of that scene went downhill though). I liked the film..especially the anti-climatic ending. I recommend it...best fan film I've ever seen. Anyone know how much they spent on making it?

    1. Re:Just watched... by Swift(void) · · Score: 3, Informative
      From the site:

      Although the film was a "zero budget" production, the final cost of the movie (combining personal expenses of cast and crew such as investment into costumes, transport costs, food etc) has reached upto approximately $1000 NZ (or $400-$600 US).
    2. Re:Just watched... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "While the dialogue and actual acting wasn't all that great, the fight scenes were pretty creative and well done."

      So, they nailed the Matrix feel eh?

    3. Re:Just watched... by kriox · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      From the article:
      Posted by michael on Sunday September 28, @21:45
      From parent:
      by fjordboy (169716) on Sunday September 28, @21:48

      Man, what's your ISP???

    4. Re:Just watched... by epiphani · · Score: 1

      Anyone know how much they spent on making it?

      According to their what is section of their website, about $1000 NZD. Appearently the most expensive item was the main characters' costume.

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    5. Re:Just watched... by fjordboy · · Score: 1

      whoa...that's impressive. I'm actually at college and I just clicked on slashdot, saw the article and replied to it cuz I had just watched the film a little bit before. *shrug* Wow..that's some fast response time...I impress myself!

    6. Re:Just watched... by bluethundr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not Matrix or SW related. But there is ST themed really high quality and ambitious fan fiction that you may enjoy. That is, if fan fictioning is your kick.

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    7. Re:Just watched... by Bugmaster · · Score: 1
      While the dialogue and actual acting wasn't all that great
      And it still was miles ahead of Keanu Reeves. Funny how that works.
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    8. Re:Just watched... by Narphorium · · Score: 1
      This film was very impressive. They really did a great job of focusing in on what made the first film such a success and using it to showcase their talents.

      Great job guys (and girl)! Now when can we expect the sequel...

    9. Re:Just watched... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the fight scenes were pretty creative and well done

      Well, creative maybe, but I wouldn't say well done. I hate watching fight scenes with flashy pointless moves. Too many parts of the battle were filler so that one dark jedi could spin his sabre in a 'cool' way :(

      The production overall, though, is pretty nice.

    10. Re:Just watched... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those who can't get to it... try this alternate location.

    11. Re:Just watched... by jaxdahl · · Score: 1

      Anyone have subtitles for fanmatrix (english)? I'd like to be able to understand the dialogue. Thanks.

    12. Re:Just watched... by stanmann · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about the fan video or Episode 1??

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  3. Duality... by mnemonic_ · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...is also 2 years old.

    1. Re:Duality... by fitten · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, almost 3 years old now I believe. It's still pretty darn awesome even without considering its origin. That some fans put together something of this quality on a low budget really is incredible. On the makers' site, they go into detail of how they made the costumes and such (like one of the Sith's mask is really a juiced up paintball mask and how they made the Emperor's clothes).

    2. Re:Duality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here. Old news is par for the course here at /. Especially the stuff posted by michael.

    3. Re:Duality... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 4, Informative
      In the meantime, it turns out that the best link to download duality is the the divx copy which is hosted by downoad.divx.com (they seem to like it).

      In the meantime I've set up a (temporary!) bittorrent for the duality divx video.. Get it while it's up.

      People who already have the divx copy can (please) use it to seed the bittorrent feed (and keep my ISP from toasting me alive).

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  4. This is new? by monofish_X · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is extremely old news. The website to the Duality fan film is http://www.crewoftwo.com/

  5. trend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I can respect the amount of work that goes into any of these remakes, what's the point? Technology has been at the point during the past couple of years that anyone with the know-how, time, and determination can crank out quality stuff. I just find it unoriginal and redundant.

    1. Re:trend by Seabass55 · · Score: 1

      It got them a job didn't it?

    2. Re:trend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it didn't

  6. Hmm by dachshund · · Score: 0, Troll
    From the Gallery, I thought it looked a lot like a (well made) video game. Then it occurred to me that Episode II did, too.

    So, props to you folks-- maybe Lucas's next movie will be slightly less of a train-wreck because of you.

    1. Re:Hmm by inertia187 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I felt the same way while I was watching it. It makes me wonder why ILM would hire these guys. Then it occurred to me, the reason could have been to create animatics (aka videomatics). ILM prides itself on having very detailed footage of scenes that require a lot of CG work before any animators or actors begin work. Among other things, it helps when trying to get actors in a sea of blue to understand what is expected of them.

      It's obvious the Duality group can do this. Animatics have the added benefit of being released on DVD when the time comes, so there's marketing value too.

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  7. go go go by xao+gypsie · · Score: 1, Funny

    quick! get the clip before the server gets /.ed to a smoldering ember.....because even the force cannot protect itself from the onslaught of fans and /. readers..

    xao

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  8. Dammit! by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Funny
    Homemade Star Wars Flick/Fanimatrix Movie

    [...]

    And as a followup to the Fanimatrix story the other day

    God damn it. I was half way through a bitter post complaining about inaccuracies in story titles and dupe posts after reading that story title, before I happened to glace at the middle of the blurb.

    What, now you expect us to read the whole friggin' blurb? Why can't you use less confusing story titles? First we had to 'read the stories' before we posted, now we've gotta read the blurb too?

    That settles it. I'm going over to Curl6fin, this place sucks.

  9. It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    ...that unoriginality and the borrowing of characters and concepts is what it takes to get noticed in the film world these days.

    1. Re:It's a shame... by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Can you really name an original story from the last 50 years or so?

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    2. Re:It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Battlefield Earth

    3. Re:It's a shame... by bscabl · · Score: 1

      last 50 years? yes... planet of the apes [the original] star trek [the original].. star wars [the original] all occured less than 50 years ago... we can go on, im sure.

    4. Re:It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      donnie darko

    5. Re:It's a shame... by Vanieter · · Score: 1

      Hyperion, Ender's Game, Foundation, Dune ...

      And that's for sci-fi.

    6. Re:It's a shame... by rikkards · · Score: 1

      Would Usual Suspects be considered original? It is meant as a true question I would like to know as it caught me completely offguard. So used to movies with much more predictable endings that the ending blew me away.

    7. Re:It's a shame... by spooje · · Score: 1

      I hate to tell you but the "origional" Star Wars was just a rip off of various westerns done in space. The first 45ish minutes was almost a shot for shot ripp off of John Ford's 1945 classic "The Searchers." Lucas admitted this at the time.

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    8. Re:It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Star Wars. Yeah. That Hero Quest is as original as The Odyssey and Jason and the Golden Fleece.

      Star Trek is just your good old classic space opera, a la Buck Rogers or Flash Gordon.

    9. Re:It's a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quit your hating. If you want people to notice you instead, get off your ass and do something.

    10. Re:It's a shame... by Sgt+York · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The twist ending is nothing new; see just about any of the shows from the Hitchcock TV episodes. Although I gotta agree with you, Usual Suspects was an excellent movie. I thought I had it pegged as standard cops & robbers crap from the start, and I gotta admit they got me.

      A lot of people trash everything as "unoriginal" because they can compare it to something else (ref Star Wars is a space western, etc.). Well, hell, you can compare just about anything. An old Lit prof of mine in college once claimed that Shakespeare did every possible plot in his plays, provided you boiled it all down to the basic elements. He proved it by having the class (there were about 25-30 of us) shout out things we thought countered his claim. None of us could refute him; this was '94 or '95.

      Stories are reflections of life, hopes, and dreams. All people have had the same lives and hopes and dreams for thousands of years. Their constant reuse does not make a story unoriginal. A story filled with older plot elements arranged in a different or unique way can be, and is, original.

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    11. Re:It's a shame... by dosius · · Score: 1

      Marmalade Boy.
      Kimagure Orange Road.
      Pokemon.
      In fact a good number of anime.

      -uso.

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    12. Re:It's a shame... by spectecjr · · Score: 1

      ...that unoriginality and the borrowing of characters and concepts is what it takes to get noticed in the film world these days.

      Tell me about it. I've spent the last 6 months looking for funding to get a short film made... and so far, nada.

      I'm even thinking of setting up a CafePress store with merchandising to fund it. Might work, actually.

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    13. Re:It's a shame... by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The last I've watched that I found original was Donnie Darko. But perhaps there's a similar movie out there, somewhere, if you look hard enough.

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    14. Re:It's a shame... by BobTheLawyer · · Score: 1

      Jeez, you've never seen the Searchers, have you?

    15. Re:It's a shame... by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      "Dark City" was pretty original, and I also liked "Cube" (1997) - except for the ending.

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    16. Re:It's a shame... by spooje · · Score: 1

      I've seen it several times and written a disertation on it.

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  10. star wars kid... by holzp · · Score: 5, Funny

    were any of their names Ghislain?

    1. Re:star wars kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      were any of their names Ghislain?

      No, you can watch it without cringing.

  11. A few years late... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is a few years later than hyped, but I think this may be one of the first big examples (other than the machinima with teh QuakeX engines) of that "small/low budget production house music/movie/multimedia art extravaganza" that PCs, software, the 'net and broadband were supposed to enable.

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    1. Re:A few years late... by RealisticWeb.com · · Score: 1

      Your telling me you have never seen independant films on the 'net? You must not have looked. For starters, check out atom films. They have a wide variety of styles, and some really good content. There a lot of good indi films out there, you just have to look for them. Try google.

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  12. Victory for BT by PovRayMan · · Score: 1

    Horray for BT once again! More people on the torrents and the faster we get the files! Slashdot effect averted..... unless you guys keep hammering away at the server hosting the torrent files...

    1. Re:Victory for BT by BagOBones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, It all depends on if the tracker server can take the request load. But the chances of that are far better than the chances of any single server hosting the file normally.

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      EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
    2. Re:Victory for BT by CanadaDave · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm getting just 14 kBytes/s download and 30 kBytes/s upload. Come on people, make sure to leave your bittorrent dialog open after you download it. Share the love!

    3. Re:Victory for BT by Kenard · · Score: 1

      saving: The-Fanimatrix-(DivX-5.1-HQ).avi (128.8 MB)
      percent done: 8.1
      time left: 2 hour 45 min 07 sec
      download to: /arc/BitTorrent-3.2.1b/The-Fanimatrix-(DivX-5.1-HQ ).avi
      download rate: 3 kB/s
      upload rate: 17 kB/s
      3kbps? Not too many people on the network?

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    4. Re:Victory for BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      110k/s here

    5. Re:Victory for BT by echucker · · Score: 1

      UL rate averaging 40 kBytes/sec. 97MB ULed and counting.
      connected to 108 peers with an average of 23.3% completed.
      60 seeds seen recently; also seeing 13.998 distributed copies

    6. Re:Victory for BT by 1000StonedMonkeys · · Score: 4, Informative

      140 down and 40 up here, though I'm posting 20 minutes later. Remember to forward ports 6881 through 6889 on your router or other people behind firewalls won't be able to send you blocks.

    7. Re:Victory for BT by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      I dunno...all three of them had some obscene number of seeders (and a large number of downloaders) and I'm barely getting any throughput, well at least not downstream - plenty of people are using my upstream.

      Oddly though - when I first started, I was getting 44kbps+ and then it dwindled off. I would have thought I would be getting better performance...perhaps I am just getting unlucky and getting slow seeders :(

    8. Re:Victory for BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Multiplying 5.5kB/s by 8 to quote a kbps figure is LAME.

    9. Re:Victory for BT by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the port forwarding tip... I'm behind a router, and I totally forgot that this might be necessary.

    10. Re:Victory for BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the exception then, 3k here as well.

    11. Re:Victory for BT by croddy · · Score: 1

      didn't change anything. my patience with this client is quickly wearing thin...

    12. Re:Victory for BT by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      I'm getting 110 kBytes/s now. It took a few minutes. I think more slashdotters are starting to download it as well. At least the file is available. Normally it would be so slashdotted it wouldn't be available at all for at least a few hours. Those I2O videos from a few weeks ago still aren't available, as the company took them offline!

    13. Re:Victory for BT by ShawnDoc · · Score: 1
      I opened up the ports and am forwarding them to my machine. However I still get:

      Problem connecting to tracker - (10061, 'Connection refused')

      I run into this problem about 70% of the time I try to download a Bit Torrent.

    14. Re:Victory for BT by KaiLoi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The webpage/files are being hosted by myself and a few friends and quite frankly BitTorrent is the _only_ way we could have survived this. The US http mirror melted down last night under the first slashdot posting (load of 60) But then it was only a little baby box anyway. The fall of this load onto the UK one pretty much killed that too. So we regrouped, replanned and spread things out a bit better. This time round the http is doing better... However the BT's have been going pretty much solidly since the initial slashdotting and after this second one we went from roughly 200 simultaneous DLs to currently about 1700 according to the main reflector. This kind of load would have melted _all_ our mirrors. So say what you like about BT but it sure does kick the ass of stuff that sucks for this kind of distribution. Oh and to the 505 or so people who are staying online with it full shared. Thanks to you all you've helped us make this a successfull slashdot survival. As to the other http mirror admins (you know who you are) thanks heaps for your support!

    15. Re:Victory for BT by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      By the time I finished that post above, I was getting 150 kBytes/s

    16. Re:Victory for BT by snooo53 · · Score: 1

      Try the website itself... I'm getting 31kb/s vs like 2 on bittorrent. Well actually no wait like 10 minutes and then try the website ;-)

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    17. Re:Victory for BT by Azadre · · Score: 0

      the best is 6881-6999 and it should be TCP. Zone Alarm Pro users, just goto firewall then customize.

    18. Re:Victory for BT by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      I opened the ports, but I am still only getting 1-2 k download, 10-20 k upload. What else might I be doing wrong?

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    19. Re:Victory for BT by 1000StonedMonkeys · · Score: 1

      Well, for starters, run netstat and make sure that other people are in fact connecting to your machine on 6881. If they aren't, check your forwarding setup (or maybe try reconnecting to the .torrent), but assuming they are, you might want to try limiting your upload speed. If you're on a cable modem/dsl and are uploading at full capacity, it will prevent ACKs from getting sent in time and hurt your download speed. You can restrict your upload speed in the bt client using the --max_upload_rate command line argument. Usually limiting it to something around 6kB/s less than your hard upload cap will be good enough. If that doesn't work, I don't know what to say.

    20. Re:Victory for BT by 1000StonedMonkeys · · Score: 1

      ... stupid html formatting eating my line breaks... Oh well, that's what I get for not hitting preview.

    21. Re:Victory for BT by r00zky · · Score: 1

      Translation:
      since most people won't be forwarding these ports, open them in your firewall
      I was getting 3kbps before, I'm maxing my bandwidth now!

      Thanks man!

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    22. Re:Victory for BT by dtfinch · · Score: 1

      I got great performance with the BitTorrent link when I downloaded it last night. The downloads usually start out very slow and gradually get faster as it downloads.

      I probably got 30kb/s down and 12kb/s up, because my ISP severely caps my upload rate.

    23. Re:Victory for BT by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      Whoever is giving me 80+ KB/s on a Slashdotted link is really impressing me. I'm using the direct http download from the second mirror site after trying bittorrent for half an hour and getting nothing but a segfault after several minutes of inactivity.

      The trailer was excellent - in about two minutes, I'm dimming the lights and watching the whole flick. Thanks, guys!

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      --
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    24. Re:Victory for BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anywhere (really slow webpage still) where there is a non-torrent download link? I'm at school and the packet shapers drop the connections if it sees the BT header show up. (Yes, I exmperimented to verify that was what was stopping my BTs)

    25. Re:Victory for BT by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      Personally, I run Reget Deluxe. I just click on the link, and the client connects up to 20 times to the ftp server until I hit 300k/sec, my cable modem download speed. Beats using bitorent in any case.

    26. Re:Victory for BT by KaiLoi · · Score: 1

      And at the same time for no added cost screws the server for other people. ;)

      *sigh*

      People wonder why server admins fear a slashdotting.

    27. Re:Victory for BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those I2O videos from a few weeks ago still aren't available, as the company took them offline!

      It would be responsible for story posters to download the file in question *before* submitting the story. Include the BT link in your submission. That way we don't run into this problem (and hosts don't run into bandwidth problems).

    28. Re:Victory for BT by ShawnDoc · · Score: 1

      Just to reply to myself.... I can connect just fine when I click the torrent links from IE. But it still gives me a connection refused when I click the links in Mozilla. The Torent opens just fine, it just can't connect.

    29. Re:Victory for BT by rune-bare-rune · · Score: 1

      > and the client connects up to 20 times to the ftp server until I hit 300k/sec

      Isn't this a bit antisocial? If everyone did this it will eat up the available number of slots on the server very quickly...
      On the Fanimatrix file, I got up to 750kB/sec incoming (with 200kB/sec outgoing) with BitTorrent, that is quicker than the fastest FTP sites I have downloaded from.

      Rune

    30. Re:Victory for BT by LMCBoy · · Score: 1

      Hey, thanks 100StonedMonkeys!

      Yeah, turns out I just had to wait, I eventually was getting 80 k/s. Oh well; I'm definitely going to remember to cap upload though, my connection was really crawlinguntil I finally stopped the client (hours after the download was done, natch..left it up overnight :)

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    31. Re:Victory for BT by RPoet · · Score: 1

      Poser. 1100 down, 90 up :) And all these people say they don't use BT because it's SLOW?

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    32. Re:Victory for BT by lxs · · Score: 1

      well you can always save the .torrent file and double-click the file. (Also makes resuming a torrent a lot easier.)

  13. Looks like... by iiioxx · · Score: 1

    The Star Wars Kid lost some weight...

    Great film!

  14. Paintball by Tuffnut · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder where his apprentice got that paintball mask!

    1. Re:Paintball by rhiorg · · Score: 1

      Probably here. Or someplace similar.

    2. Re:Paintball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I sought out a friend of mine who owns a paintball store, looked through his selection, and settled on the Raven, which I thought had a bit of a stormtrooperish look to it. Very little was done to the mask--we painted out some silver logos and tinted the glass, added a neoprene hood, and voila: there was Darth Blight.

      On this page.

  15. Torrent is fast... by Aliencow · · Score: 1

    Going at 280K/s now... If we could only submit Slashdot stories about porn !

    1. Re:Torrent is fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm only getting 175k/s

      oh wait, my porno is taking the other 190k/sec

    2. Re:Torrent is fast... by snooo53 · · Score: 1
      I'm curious... why is it whenever I go to a bittorrent link on slashdot I inevitably see hundreds of posts about these amazing download speeds and yet I only get something in the neighborhood of 1-10 k/s while uploading at like 25k/s? (i'm not maxxing out my upload speed so that's not the problem)

      Whereas with torrents on other websites I routinely get >25kb/s speeds. What's the deal here? I'm starting to think all slashdotters are leechers who sign off the instant their download is done.

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    3. Re:Torrent is fast... by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      We just like to fuck with you.

      Seriously though, from what I understand, bittorent isn't impartial in terms of your location on the internet. It hooks people that are nearby together, so if you're not on a neck of the internet with lots of people downloading, you end up getting leftovers. Or, now that I think of it, that might be archive.org's thingy, but I think bittorent does it too.

    4. Re:Torrent is fast... by flatface · · Score: 1
      I thought so too, until I got this client. I know that it seems lame to cap your upload, but on my connection, if your upload goes too fast, your download is shit.

      I normally get high speeds on "DSL/Cable fast", or if I'm already uploading stuff, "DSL/Cable slow".

    5. Re:Torrent is fast... by cioxx · · Score: 1

      If you're behind a router, you need the forward the port range. It'll make your download speed faster.

      You might think that data is coming through just fine, but it does make a HUGE difference.

      Try it.

    6. Re:Torrent is fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucky you... I've not got more than 22Kbs... and most of the time its dribbling round 1-2Kbs....

      Seems more like a Bit Dribble to me....

    7. Re:Torrent is fast... by snooo53 · · Score: 1

      thanks for the advice. Just out of curiosity I tried forwarding the ports, and it does make a big difference! (although slashdot torrents in general seem much slower than torrents elsewhere) The /. torrents jumped up to about 90k/s, and other places I am now getting 200+. Even upload is much faster.

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  16. What is .torrent ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I click on teh link to download the movie and I get this .torrent file that mozilla warns me is trying to hack my computer.... what do I need to play .torrent files?

    1. Re:What is .torrent ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It took me 5 nanoseconds to google for an answer, and since you spelled "the" as "teh", you can't be helped.

    2. Re:What is .torrent ? by Lshmael · · Score: 2, Informative

      BitTorrent. You could have always googled for ".torrent" or "torrent." It's the second link.

    3. Re:What is .torrent ? by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      what is 'googled'?

      heh.

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    4. Re:What is .torrent ? by Gleng · · Score: 1
      --
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  17. 90% computer-generated? by Gay+Nigger · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, that certainly explains why LucasFilm liked it so much.

  18. A nagging gripe by ctrl-alt-elite · · Score: 3, Funny

    *Here be Duality spoilers*

    When the masked Sith gets cut in half at the end, he bleeds. Anyone else getting visions of a similar move in Episode 4 where Obi-Wan cuts off Ponda Baba's arm and he bleeds? Does this mean the masked Sith is perhaps Ponda Baba's father? That would explain his reaction to Kenobi in the cantina...

    1. Re:A nagging gripe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yep, that's the first thing that popped into my mind. Because getting your limbs hacked off by lightsabers doesn't happen much in Star Wars.

      . . .

      Oh, wait ... :b

    2. Re:A nagging gripe by dan_bethe · · Score: 1

      Most of the time, there's no blood because the energy of the light saber cauterizes the wound. Such as with Darth Maul in Episode I.

    3. Re:A nagging gripe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch the DVD again there is a blood spray...

    4. Re:A nagging gripe by dan_bethe · · Score: 1

      Well yeah, there's blood spray initially as it's being cauterized and then nothing at all as he falls away. I seem to remember hearing somewhere that Darth Maul is still actually alive due to cybernetic regeneration. :-o

  19. REALLY REALLY GOOD by gtshafted · · Score: 1

    Everything was PERFECT... except for the fighting choreography, too slow.

  20. bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2 kB down
    11 kB up.

    Yeah, BT is a great distribution system.

    Posting BitTorrent links alone is one of the most retarded ways to try to distribute your work.

    1. Re:bittorrent by EvanED · · Score: 1

      That's why they *didn't* just post torrent links.

      Oh, and mine is going 240 down 270 up, so I'm happy.

    2. Re:bittorrent by Polyphemis · · Score: 2, Funny
      Posting BitTorrent links alone is one of the most retarded ways to try to distribute your work.

      I agree. I'd much rather not be able to contact the server at all. :)

    3. Re:bittorrent by Phil+John · · Score: 1

      Are you behind a firewall? Try forwarding the ports to your machine. On a NAT network? Once again, try forwarding the ports to your machine. Then if it doesn't work you can slate BitTorrent.

      --
      I am NaN
  21. Broken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BitTorrent says "Bad data from tracker".

  22. terrific... by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Funny

    so this is the way to get a job in today's economy? Copy exactly what the potential employeer is doing and do it on a shoe string budget? So if I want to work at Microsoft I have to make my own OS?

    I have no answers, just questions.

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    1. Re:terrific... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes you do.

      It's just another step on the path back to a agrarian-barter economy.

    2. Re:terrific... by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      Usually that's how it works. I think they call it "experience".

    3. Re:terrific... by goodchef · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, that would explain linux now wouldn't it?

      --

      "Inflammable means flammable? What a strange country!" -Dr. Nick, The Simpsons

    4. Re:terrific... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called "I can work for free, on whatever project floats my boat, for an unlimited amount of time, because I'm living off daddy's money."

    5. Re:terrific... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's he supposed to do, sit alone in a dark room and cry 'cuz he hasn't got a job?

    6. Re:terrific... by KaiLoi · · Score: 1

      Whatever made you think this? Most of the people who worked on the movie have jobs.. most of us 9-5... hence many days of bleary eyedness at work after shoots from when work finished till 3-4 am the next morning. Besides... it's not like it cost all that much. ;)

    7. Re:terrific... by Animats · · Score: 2, Interesting
      so this is the way to get a job in today's economy? Copy exactly what the potential employeer is doing and do it on a shoe string budget?

      Roger Corman wrote, in "How I made a hundred movies in Hollywood and never lost a dime", that a woman once applied for a job with his film company, and his assistant told him that she'd already shot two scenes from his next movie on her own. He said "I have only one question. Did she shoot them in 35mm?". Told "yes", he hired her.

      So, yes, sometimes it does happen that way.

  23. You must open the ports! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have to open the ports Bittorrent uses to get full speed. If you're behind firewall/router, there's no way you're going to get a direct connection. Open the ports.

    1. Re:You must open the ports! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't make that as clear as it could have been; basically, I was getting slow downloads like you with bittorrent, and then one day I realized that I didn't have the ports open for bittorrent (I can't remember what they are exactly but I think it's tcp and udp: 6969 and tcp and udp: 6881-6889).

  24. fanimatrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any got a copy of Fanimatrix online for those of us behind firewalls not under our control?

    1. Re:fanimatrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you go to the main web page

      www.fanimatrix.net

      there are direct http download links off of that.

  25. Duality torrent by moltar77 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I posted a BitTorrent for the Duality 640 DivX here.

    1. Re:Duality torrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you screwed up the mime type so that it shows up as text in Mozilla :). Thanks for the link though.

  26. Direct Link for Duality Movie, FAST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    1. Re:Direct Link for Duality Movie, FAST by exhilaration · · Score: 1

      24.3 MB? What version is this? I want the 173 MB Divx!

    2. Re:Direct Link for Duality Movie, FAST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the 173mb divx version.. well the link says so but its not, i wondered why it looked so crappy, grr

    3. Re:Direct Link for Duality Movie, FAST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duality has no 173 MB version, only Fanimatrix. Read the story, you stupid fucker.

  27. Mirrors by baximus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mirrors of both of these:

    Duality (HQ, DiVX and Mov*): HTTP | FTP
    Fanimatrix (Trailer and Full, HQ DiVX): HTTP | FTP

    * Note: This mirror is in progress now, a whopping 9k/s, so be patient!

  28. If you cannot beat them by trolman · · Score: 0, Troll
    buy them out.

    This is year old news.

  29. Run Program (spoilers).... by antdude · · Score: 4, Informative

    The video is about 16 minutes long. It is actually decent. Don't expect it to have special effects out of this one. The only one I considered is the agent dodging bullets. There aren't any camera rotations.

    There are some cool run and fight scenes. Of course, there is the nmap reference like in Reloaded movie. Running Windows with a lot of holes in this fan flick. ;)

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    1. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by EvilLumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah we couldn't get 50 cameras for free so sorry, no rotating bullet time :) As for all the choreo and stuff, that was pretty much all done by Steven A Davis, who played 'Dante', the main character. We did all the running scenes 'guerilla' style, as in, we didn't have permission to shoot anywhere so we were just quick and quiet

    2. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by antdude · · Score: 1

      EvilLumpy: Heh. :) Nice stuff. Did you get the Matrix falling codes from the screen savers like xscreensaver?

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    3. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by EvilLumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah pretty much. We were running on my work machines (where I'm posting from now) which are on windows so we used the port, which also included that fantastic phone trace you see in the film. I must say it seemed rather budgo at the time filming an actual screen showing matrix code instead of adding it later. Kind of like photocopying your monitor display...

    4. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually you can do an amateur rotating bullet time in After Effects as well, just takes a bit of prep work when you are shooting:

      http://www.nccinema.ch/esfx11.html

      http://www.creativecow.net/articles/kumar_satish/b ullet_time/index.htm

    5. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by PollyJean · · Score: 1

      I thought it was very well done - a nice tribute. I'll be making copies and forcing people to watch it. I'm hoping that the Wachowskis and co. see it and put in on the Revolutions DVD or something.

      Also, it was good to see that they fixed the spelling of "Wachowski" on their disclaimer page. I figure they have a stronger case of "this is fannish fun; don't sue us" if they actually get the names correct. They were spelling it "Warschowski" before.

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    6. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that was actually a good movie. beating up a bar full of goths.. hilarious! the chick was pretty hot as well.

      3*s because you can hear peoples footsteaps and they sound weird and also the car in the car shot wasnt goign fast enough and/or didnt screech to a halt when it almost hit the guy.

    7. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by clueless123 · · Score: 1

      FYI I've seen camera rotations done with 7 single camera shots and a morph program...
      (Tutorial at: http://www.nccinema.ch/esfx11.html)
      It is a lot of work but the result looks pretty good to me if you ask. For your flying scenes, Just get a decent pulley, 500 lb wire, a full harnes and 3 big guys to pull it. Later just use cinepaint (ex film gimp) to wipe out the wire.. (frame by frame!) I've done it on home movies of my kids and it works! Still, the movie was pretty cool stuff..
      Kudos to y'all

    8. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 1


      I must say it seemed rather budgo at the time filming an actual screen showing matrix code instead of adding it later. Kind of like photocopying your monitor display...

      But that's what they did when filming the Matrix as well. I remember reading about it in the production notes on the Matrix website. The visual effects guy said the monitors were just showing a videotape. The far-off ones were using VHS, but the nearer ones had to use Beta because otherwise it would have been obvious it was a tape.

      -a

    9. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but what I was meaning was that even when it took up the whole screen it was just being filmed, including the trace...

    10. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, that was pretty impressive!

    11. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Hi Lumpy. I've read some of your other posts about being involved with this. I think you guys did a great job. For a zero budget, that was an amazing piece of work. You and your friends should be really proud.

      Now, I saw all the disclaimers on the website, and at the beginning and end of the film. However, that generally goesn't seem to matter much to the copyright and trademark holders. Are you expecting lawsuits from both The Matrix franchise itself, and and also the copyright holders for the music you used? Please keep the /. community updated with any legal troubles you might have.

      Thanks for entertaining me, and I hope you don't get sued into oblivion.

      --
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    12. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by ralphclark · · Score: 1

      There is another way...

    13. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by TiggsPanther · · Score: 1

      It was very well-done. Personally I don't think the lack fo a bullet-time effect was too much of a problem. Not eevyr "Matrix Move" needs to be accompanied by a 180 freeze-frame. Dante's flying-punch looked cool.

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    14. Re:Run Program (spoilers).... by TiggsPanther · · Score: 1
      Don't expect it to have special effects out of this one. The only one I considered is the agent dodging bullets.

      Although not a new technique, I'd certainly class digital removal of the wires used in stunts a "special effect".

      Or did you think Dante actually managed to fly in that last stunt? ;)

      Tiggs
      --
      Tiggs
      "120 chars should be enough for everyone..."
  30. Re:Hey hey by sootman · · Score: 1

    In Mozilla/Phoenix/etc (and, in fact, Netscape back to about 2.0) type this in the location box:
    view-source:http://meshier.com/fs/a/
    I use Mozilla, so I'm not sure if AOL left this in Netscape or not. Also handy when you go to a website that has a neat thing but redirects you before you get a chance to pick 'view source' from the menu.

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  31. Go here for http download links and mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  32. Duality by rocketfairy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    50kB/s down
    380kB/s up

    Thanks to bittorrent, we can ALL get /.ed.

    1. Re:Duality by sweetooth · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. I've got it downloaded, but currently going up at 350kB/s.

    2. Re:Duality by Kewjoe · · Score: 2, Informative

      that is why you need the Experimental Release of Bit Torrent which allows you to cap your upload at a certain speed.

      works great. :)

    3. Re:Duality by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Very nice! I especially like the seed listing. I always wonder if I might be the only seed left and cutting someone off when I finally shut down, this is a nice way to make sure I'm not!

      Though I do wish they'd indicate a little more clearly that by source, they mean platform independant python code instead of a windows only implementation of the windows download.

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    4. Re:DUALITY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just urban legend, I suppose..

    5. Re:Duality by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      512/256 adsl:

      54kb/s down
      0.3kb/s up

      I've never seen my upload rate go above 1.5kb/s, whatever and whenever I download. I'm trying to share, dammit, but no one will let me.

  33. I had this in my wallet by Spacelem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My flatmate showed the duality movie to me about 2 years ago and burned it onto a tiny 5cm CD which I stuck in one of the folds of my wallet.

    I completely forgot about it and only rediscovered it 6 months ago. I then gave it to my sister who found it very amusing and said that the disc was "cute".

    It's now residing in my wallet again. Just for the sake of it.

    1. Re:I had this in my wallet by thelizman · · Score: 1

      Principal Smith: Johnny, what's that round thing in your wallet? It's not one of those "C" things is it?

      Little Tommy Anderson: Why no sir, Mr. Smith. It's a 5cm CD-ROM.

      Principal Smith: Bullshit, I'm calling your parents.

  34. That explains it then by The+Ancients · · Score: 1

    Windows ME that is...

  35. More than that actually. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember seeing it for the first time about 3 years ago.

  36. And how to use it to download: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    btdownloadcurses.py [torrent_url]

    README.txt only explains how to start running a tracker and start hosting files, not how to download. I was amazed.

  37. Thats 28.0kb/s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    im getting 1161 kb/s

    not 1161 kps which would be ~11MB/s

    so im actually getting 116.1 kps which isnt bad but still nto 11 meg :)

    1. Re:Thats 28.0kb/s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI, 1161kb/s * 1kB/8kb = 145kB/s

    2. Re:Thats 28.0kb/s by Aliencow · · Score: 1

      You didn't notice the uppercase K?

      Yes, I really did mean kiloBYTES.

  38. really old and not that good.. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sorry but most everyone knew about that one almost 2 years ago. there is a much better fan film in the making (and with some clips available to be watched) at www.rewindvideo.com called heart of the rebellion.

    duality had some good parts, some of the CG was hokey not because of bad cg, but bad editing and acting.

    Dont get me wrong, it's cool, but hardly anything fantastic... while heart of the rebellion is unbelieveable in acting, props being made and the camera work by true masters of the art.

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    1. Re:really old and not that good.. by useosx · · Score: 1

      while heart of the rebellion is unbelieveable in acting, props being made and the camera work by true masters of the art.

      Somebody mod the parent Funny, because it has to be a joke. Watching the clip and trailer for Heart of the Rebellion and all I can do is laugh. The acting is pretty bad. It's hard to compare with Duality because Duality doesn't really have much acting, just fight scenes. The props and costumes do look excellent, though the FX makeup looks pretty crappy. The camerawork? Crappy 4:3 video, decent lighting.

      I'm not trying to mock the talent and work of the people behind Heart of the Rebellion. It looks like they're doing great work, albeit shoddy low budget stuff. Whether they are "true masters of the art" unlikely, but maybe if they had a bigger budget.

      As for Duality, it is pretty stunning. Just because it's 2 years old doesn't make it bad. Sure, what acting there is isn't that great and some of the bluescreen work is subpar. But the fights are pretty damn good and the CG is really damn good for no budget. I mean, they had to work their asses off to design, construct, light, and render those settings. Comparing it to Heart of the Rebellion is not really possible because HotR is limited by budget, whereas Duality looks great because it doesn't cost anything to make CG environments, just a hell of a lot of time.

  39. neat-o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is neat but it is old enough to have a beard...And i thought cnn was slow.....What about the election? Did Gore win?

    1. Re:neat-o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gore won, but Bush is the president.

  40. For those that use emule edonkey by Crashmarik · · Score: 3, Informative

    Heres the link for the bit torrent impaired The-Fanimatrix-(DivX-5.1-HQ).avi

    1. Re:For those that use emule edonkey by bitty · · Score: 1

      Slashcode seems to have edited out some stuff, so the link won't work. Try copying and pasting this (with any spaces removed): ed2k://|file|The-Fanimatrix-DivX-51-HQ.avi|1350465 74|1A98FBDCB753C3120DA1F35E2DC5A047|/

  41. Excellent! by RyanFenton · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's the Matrix meets Sam Raimi... which I like.

    One thing that got me. In that first "trinity" fight scene, was that white-haired security guard played by... TV's Frank? Wow - so, second-banana heaven is The Matrix fan movies!

    Definetly a perfect role for bar-dwelling goths. :^)

    Ryan Fenton

    1. Re:Excellent! by EvilLumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, white haired security guard = me Erm, who's TV's Frank? I really wanna know!

    2. Re:Excellent! by RyanFenton · · Score: 2, Informative

      One explanation of the wonder that was... TV's Frank.

      Actaully, the actor has since moved onto working behind the scenes in such shows as Sabrina, the Teenage Witch, and the wonderful Invader Zim. Anyway - the character was mostly one of a parody of a stupid mad scientist sidekick. Most of the larger bittorrent sites will have a few MST3k movies available... see most any of the pre-624 episodes to see him in action. He was a great character. :^)

      Ryan Fenton

  42. Considering it's being slashdotted... by Kjella · · Score: 1

    ...there's a lot of new people coming in, which naturally can't send much to begin with. I doubt that many are finished yet, 4 hrs to go at this speed myself.

    Kjella

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    1. Re:Considering it's being slashdotted... by CanadaDave · · Score: 1

      I'm getting a much higher download rate now: 110 kBytes/s, it's been building up as soon as I opened up the BT ports on my router.

  43. How about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's fun to create and it's fun to watch?

    And anyway what you're saying clearly isn't true. I challenge you to provide anything even remotely resembling Duality.

  44. Great job, guys! by sootman · · Score: 0

    Just finished watchin the Fanimatrix. Excellent work. And my BT window is still open, uploading at my DSL's 25K/s max.

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  45. GRAND THEFT AMERICA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's your proof that Bush stole the election.

    1. Re:GRAND THEFT AMERICA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      duuuuude!!!!That shit rocks!@

  46. Art of the Saber by Caraig · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sorry, guys, but this piece of work utterly destroys Duality. It's not strictly saber-fighting in the SW canon, but quite frankly I think it's miles better than Duality. (And for those of us who care, it uses a hell of a lot less CGI.)

    Frankly, I think these guys should have been taken on by LucasFilm, as fight choreographers.

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    1. Re:Art of the Saber by blincoln · · Score: 2, Informative

      I actually posted a link to the Duality website back in this post, but I think that the ones with real stories like Broken Allegiance, The Dark Redemption, The Formula, and most recently Reciprocity (no relation to Duality that I'm aware of) destroy any FX-only project like Duality or AotS2.

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    2. Re:Art of the Saber by the+gnat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hah. "Troops" still remains the standard by which all Star Wars ripoffs must be judged. It's hard to tell how good the effects actually are, given the low quality of most of downloadable version, but it feels right. And the fact that it's entirely tongue-in-cheek makes up for the utter geekiness of it being a Star Wars fan film.

    3. Re:Art of the Saber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AoTS was great. I can only come up with really minor nitpicks. For a fan film, that's quite a feat.

      1. Sticking lightsabers into the ground. They should cut right through the ground and fall straight down to the hilt; you can't leave them standing up in the ground or support yourself with them.

      2. Really cheesy JK2 sound effects on saber retreival.

      3. JK2 "lift stop" sounds added to some missed swings. It really sounds out of place when you know what it is, and there's really no reason to use that sound effect in the first place.

    4. Re:Art of the Saber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, saber-fight-wise AotS is certainly better than Duality, but it has one major drawback:
      The sith guy (the one with the single red saber, I suppose) is worse armed and fights in a less spectacular and intimidating fashion than the jedi guy. Also, the jedi looks more evil and agressive, while the sith seems to excercise more control and restraint. Should be the other way around, according to the SW canon, no?

    5. Re:Art of the Saber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Heh, Art Of the Saber rocks.

      I have to confess I am biased though as I know the guys who played in it and shot the film. The Jedi guy was my roommate in grad school and I've known him and his brother for years.

      In fact Calvin, the jedi guy just got back from going to San Diego where he was motion captured to be part of the Star Wars Galaxies game thing.

      Both of those guys have been doing martial arts for years. Calvin was really good at Wu Shu when he was more into it about 6 years ago. Since he's gotten older he's slowed down a bit with responsibilities and such.

      The sith guy is Calvin's brother and he's just stockier and not as flexible as Cal.

      It's funny you guys like the choreography, they've been doing it for years since they were kids, basement fight scenes, homemade movies, etc... They are a fun bunch of guys and are very creative. I'm sure they'd be glad to hear that people really like their work.

    6. Re:Art of the Saber by DeanAsh · · Score: 1
      Heh, seconded. The fight rocked, but the mood was perfect. The music had a degree of pathos such that you knew that there wasn't going to be a happy ending, however it resolved. It felt like the two warriors weren't "good/evil" but rather fighting for political powers. Any other time but now they may have been as brothers.

      Yes, I know they were brothers. You know what I mean.

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    7. Re:Art of the Saber by DarthTaco · · Score: 1

      Looks like that project was made by a bunch of Ho's.

    8. Re:Art of the Saber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No way man, the karate kid with his wax on, wax off was way more inspiring. sniff.

  47. What is a torrent file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone please explain what a torrent file is?

    1. Re:What is a torrent file? by thelizman · · Score: 1

      On the off chance this is not a troll, a torrent file is used by BitTorrent to download large files from multiple sources, yielding high bandwidth downloads. BT is available for GNU/Linux, Windows, and MacOS X. http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/

    2. Re:What is a torrent file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whats a file?

    3. Re:What is a torrent file? by hc00jw · · Score: 1
      On the off chance this is not a troll, a torrent file is used by BitTorrent to download large files from multiple sources, yielding high bandwidth downloads. BT is available for GNU/Linux, Windows, and MacOS X. http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/

      I think it's a fair point... It's not a widely known network, and indeed, the first time I heard of BitTorrent was on slashdot. If today was the first time the poster had read slashdot, then it doesn't surprise me at all that they do not know what BitTorrent is. Personally, I think it would be a lot more helpful for the poster of the BitTorrent link to put a link to the BitTorrent client download as well, so those not in the know (which is quite substantial) can download the client and improve the network!

  48. BT Question by agent+dero · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's happening AGAIN!

    I use BT on my iBook, and everytime I start using it, I get ridiculous downloads, right now I am getting 3.2KB/s, from the 100KB/s possible on my connection, (uploading somewhere between 8-12(my max)) Everybody seems to be going super fast, but I always get shafted, why!!!! (dramatically held)

    I've also had BT's in the past with 5 seeders, and 12 leechers, where I was hardly even downloading anything. What gives? Mac bias? :-p

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    1. Re:BT Question by impto · · Score: 1

      If you're maxing out your upload, as you state that you are, you're likely not leaving enough room for the overhead that BT needs to request packets. You should use the command line options to limit the number of active uploads and upload rate to give yourself some leeway. If you set the max upload to a half or three-quarters of what your line can handle you ought to get much better downloads. This link would normally be of use, but it appears he's maxed his outbound for the month. In the mean time you can start here.

  49. Re:For even more speed by exhilaration · · Score: 4, Informative
    You really should open ports tcp 135, 139 and 445.

    No, you shouldn't. This is a joke, as opening those ports would open your Windows machines to attack.

  50. Movie was pretty bad, actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate to say it, but it sucks next to Duality. Sorry. The acting is marginally better than the fan made Star Trek series, but in order to duplicate the look and feel of the Matrix, you got to get a stedicam and better everything.

    1. Re:Movie was pretty bad, actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying they're only limited by budget?

  51. This guy MUST be JeffK by JonnyRo88 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This Anonymous == JeffK http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/

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    1. Re:This guy MUST be JeffK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are soooooo freakin kewl.

  52. Re:For even more speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, I couldn't resist.

  53. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  54. CRINGE, embarassing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember the last time some goober posted on slashdot how AWESOME! UBER! some fan clip was. Ten seconds into it, I wanted to hurl. This was better the last 'super cool' fan clip, but the overriding thing, like the other one, that one comes away with is it's a geeks wet dream as they play pretend and capture it on film. Like watching the fans in the triumph insult comic dog clip. Shiver.

    Someone said Lucas hired these guys? Man is the next star wars is gonna suck.

    1. Re:CRINGE, embarassing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The starwars kid is better than all these lame fan 'productions'.

  55. Pink Five by G27+Radio · · Score: 1

    Pink Five

    I think it's a little more recent.

  56. A funny Star Wars Trailer by Quantum+Jim · · Score: 1

    Check out Episode I: When Senators Attack. Man, it's the funniest thing I've seen in ages! From TFN:

    The second trailer for Episode 1 The Phantom Menace has never looked so crazy. Tongue way in cheek throughout When Senators Attack IV lampoons the entire Phantom Menace trailer...

    WARNING: If you like Jar-jar or normalcy, then you may wish to avoid the trailer.

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    1. Re:A funny Star Wars Trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God this is fucking horrible.

    2. Re:A funny Star Wars Trailer by Quantum+Jim · · Score: 1

      I guess we have different tastes then; I think its really funny.

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  57. Homemade Star Wars.... Bahhhhhh, I want PORN! by jbottero · · Score: 2

    Where are the Star Wars PORN films?

  58. dewd, summoner geeks... by mekkab · · Score: 1

    SUmmoner Geeks, a bold look at the darker side of geekdom.

    P.S.- you know that was you.

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    1. Re:dewd, summoner geeks... by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      Summonr Geeks was not amateur, and was not low budget. It was a combination of two separate professionally authored projects: a high-profile cross-platform videogame, and a much older comedy recording.

  59. DUALITY by Azeem2000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As someone who helped work on DUALITY, I can tell you neither Mark Thomas nor Dave Macomber went to work for LucasFilm after the movie.

    Mark is still an artist and Dave runs a dojo in the Santa Barbara, CA area. He is a retired National Karate Champion.

  60. Matrix Kid by Mad+Man · · Score: 1

    re: star wars kid...

    How long do you think before some kid films himself acting out his Matrix fantasy, and his classmates releast that video onto the internet?

    1. Re:Matrix Kid by 11223 · · Score: 1

      It happened a few years ago, and some parts of video were carried on the news.

    2. Re:Matrix Kid by PhoenixK7 · · Score: 1

      Um, yeah, the film came out days before that happened. Doubtful that they were acting it out.

    3. Re:Matrix Kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they watched the divx

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  62. You think it's bad now by uberdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you think it's bad now, wait until they start reverse rendering actors and scenes from old movies. (By reverse rendering, I mean taking a series of images, and creating a 3d digital representation of an actor. That 3d representation could then be animated to generate new scenes.) Imagine all new Hogan's Heroes fan episodes, or Gilligan's Island episodes. Same actors, just digitized, and animated. Imagine some of the Star Trek novels done up as movies. It may not be that far off.

    1. Re:You think it's bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't they allready do this in Plan 9 from outer space ?-)

    2. Re:You think it's bad now by uberdave · · Score: 1

      Lots of movies and shows use archive footage and clever compositing techniques to either put the put the current actor into the archived scene, or put an archived actor into a current scene. For example, the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Trials and Tribble-ations", where the DS-9 crew go back into the past and interact with Kirk and the gang. The interaction shots require just the right archive footage. It is impossible, using this technique, to create actions and dialogs that didn't already exist.

      What I'm talking about is creating a 3D digital model of the actor. That model could then be animated for whatever action or dialog is required. Perhaps a better way of explaining it is - create a digital actor, then give it a "skin" based on a real actor.

    3. Re:You think it's bad now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Forest was not actually talking to Nixon? Damn..

  63. Copying art by mariox19 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many great artists in history have spent many afternoons and evenings copying great paintings, sculptures and so forth? I don't know what goes on in our "modern" world, but for the longest time copying the works of the masters was the way to train and develop as an artist. Isn't this something like what's going on here?

    Maybe these guys aren't interested in story writing and are only trying to hone their skills in cinematography. What's wrong with reworking the material of others to accomplish that end?

    What they do isn't a career; it's the beginnings of one. I think your criticism is a little misplaced.

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  64. Three Words. by Xthlc · · Score: 1

    SAD CLOWN KUNG-FU!
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
    SAD CLOWN KUNG-FU!!!!!!!!

    Man, do NZ goth clubs REALLY look like that? Yikes.

    Seriously though, aside from a bunch of dorky Crow-wannabes who seem to have mastered muy thai in between moping sessions, this is definitely worth the download. Much better Matrix-like fight choreography than I expected. Still a fan-film, but it shows what key elements fans can adopt (like light sabers in Star Wars) to capture the essence of a mythos' style.

    1. Re:Three Words. by KaiLoi · · Score: 1

      Hahahah.. actually no.. whilst the scene was shot in a NZ goth venue and a lot of the people in the scene are goths... this is not how most of them dress/makeup. The makeup artists were told to "go for the stereotypical goth look that everyone would recognise", and "more makeup!" A lot of the poor buggers were sitting there saying things like "You want to make me look like the crow? Can I reconsider being in this?" ;)

    2. Re:Three Words. by Xthlc · · Score: 1

      Oh man, I can imagine the pain. :)

      I'd call the look of the Matrix a little more fetishy than goth -- still though, I guess if you're trying to present things that people will instantly identify ...

    3. Re:Three Words. by EvilLumpy · · Score: 1

      I still remember poor old Michael freaking out about his lipstick rubbing off. That being said we did have little Cameron really being quite pleased about being coated in makeup... slightly concerning...

    4. Re:Three Words. by KaiLoi · · Score: 1

      Curse you and your pretty eyes!

    5. Re:Three Words. by Loiosh-de-Taltos · · Score: 1

      I'd just like to give a big thank you out to your full team. (Including the two of you who share a slashdot number registered within minutes of each other, hah!).

      This is the only fan movie that I feel not only reflected the source material but respected it as well. Wonderful job.

    6. Re:Three Words. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great picture and the fight scenes were very good.

      The black dude was the best actor. Perfect. He should have been the lead.

      One sheesy scene: "free your mind... " Arch, that sucked... ;-)

    7. Re:Three Words. by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      I can't wait to show this one to my little sister.

      Like I always thought - Matrix kicks Crow's butt =)

  65. Re:For even more speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...unless you know how to download security patches.

  66. How about Bounty Trail or Pink Five?? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Personally, I think Bounty Trail is one of the best star wars fan films.

    As far as comedy goes Pink Five is the funniest fanfilm. It ranks right up there with Troops.

    I dont know why duality was posted, its almost three years old.

    1. Re:How about Bounty Trail or Pink Five?? by Snaller · · Score: 1

      I dont know why duality was posted, its almost three years old

      Because the slashdot editors hadn't heard about it before now!

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  67. If you guys like that, check out.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    www.pulgaritrap.com, it's currently in post-production, should be out soon!

  68. Already parodied... by rhiorg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Duality", perhaps one of the finest fan films ever IMHO, has already been parodied by the utterly hilarious "Twoness". A definite must-see for fans of fan films.

    Here's a short, totally unrelated "fanimation" if you just can't get enough fan action.

  69. no one wants to see it? by sput-pwk · · Score: 0

    it seems not very many people are using the bit torrent link... I'm only getting 8 kb/s ack.

    1. Re:no one wants to see it? by soccerisgod · · Score: 1

      it seems not very many people are using the bit torrent link... I'm only getting 8 kb/s ack.

      It might just be me, but just perhaps not many people here want to use BT ;)

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  70. Classic moments.. by sudog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Top three moments in the movie:

    1. ..where Dante sits there and fervently prays before engaging the agent.
    2. ..where Medusa busily fiddles around with nmap. For a long time. Tickety tick.
    3. ..where the operator says, "Come on man, don't do this to me, pick up the phone," while Dante is off on an Agent-killing ego trip.

    What a great job! :-) Love the not over-used wire work. Not so much flying through the air as in the real Matrix movies. Seems very tasteful the way they've arranged it here.

    1. Re:Classic moments.. by EvilLumpy · · Score: 1

      Heh it was a little difficult to overdo the wirework due to lack of funding A blessing in disguise it seems Being one of the two people as ballast for the final wire-throw, I would like to say that Steve is heavier than he looks! Our operator, Fasi, has just landed himself a lead role in a show currently in production which is being filmed in Wellington, NZ. Good on him! We're lucky to know such talented people really.

    2. Re:Classic moments.. by TiggsPanther · · Score: 1

      1:
      Yep. Very funny. And also really, well, realistic I guess. Actually having to psyche yourself up before doing something really dangerous.

      2:
      *grins* I love it when things that take time are actually shown to take time.
      None of this "use a dialup account to hack into a network and download a 6-meg file - all in under a minute" stuff you see on TV.

      3:
      Heh. There's nothing as bad as hearing the phone keep ringing, when you KNOW the other person ther is in a position to pick up.

      Tiggs

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  71. Torrent? by the+MaD+HuNGaRIaN · · Score: 1

    WTF is a torrent? God dammit, wtf is wrong with posting a damn MPEG?

    I guess it's a message from above that I shouldn't bother wasting my time anyway.

    1. Re:Torrent? by EvilLumpy · · Score: 1

      Torrent links were posted so you could download them (if you understood how) without bringing down the site for everyone else There's a 'damn MPEG' on the Fanimatrix.net site if you can get yourself there to get it

    2. Re:Torrent? by westyvw · · Score: 3, Informative

      they did post a mpeg, and an avi. Bittorrent is just the way of getting it.

      It stops from hammering servers, cause you upload while you download. You can get the file faster and so does everyone else without the /. effect happening to servers.

      I love BT. It kicks ass. I use it under Linux, and it works well.

      Over 120 gigs of legal videos and music downloaded. Nice huh?

      BTW while I am an a rant: RIAA listen UP! I ONLY listen to legally shared, non commercial music. Sorry but you missed the boat. The bands I listen to get my money when I see them, and no other way.

    3. Re:Torrent? by eatenn · · Score: 1

      Hello, was just wondering what the intent of this sort of project is. Was this a learning experience, done for fun, or a stab at advancing yourself professionally? I can understand the value of it as a learning experience, but it occurs to me that if you were trying to get your foot in the door, showcasing your own originality instead of copying someone else's may have been more beneficial.

      BTW, what was this shot on? I downloaded the low-quality version so I can't really tell. It looks quite good. Did you have your own lighting rig or was it just whatever light was available?

      enntee@N0-SPAM.localgod.net

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    4. Re:Torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Over 120 gigs of legal videos and music downloaded"

      you drive a saturn dont you?

    5. Re:Torrent? by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      BTW while I am an a rant: RIAA listen UP! I ONLY listen to legally shared, non commercial music. Sorry but you missed the boat. The bands I listen to get my money when I see them, and no other way.

      Doh! Sorry, but if you watched the Matrix fan film, then you just listened to commercial, copyrighted music, synched to video and distributed without permission. I found the film really entertaining, and I hope the copyright holders decide to consider this "flattery" instead of "theft," but these days? Ha. Remember, it's usually not the actual artists who are pissed off about stuff like this, it's the lawyers for the production companies that represent them. The brothers Wachowski might actually like this and get a kick out of it, but that's not going to stop Warner Bros. from pursuing legal action.

      Prediction: within a week there will be a front page /. story: "Fanimatrix producers slapped with cease and desist letters" from the "no-good-deed-goes-unpunished dept."

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  72. Too bad this couldn't have been done onLinux.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Macs rule..

    I've been learning after effects and damn, I am walking effects house with OSX and my powerbook. Heck, one :30 second title sequence I did paid for the laptop and the software.

  73. HELP FOR PETE BT SAKE!! by DJ_Tricks · · Score: 1

    ok i have my ports forwarding to my ip and stuff but i still only get 5kbps on BT whats up with that im uploading at 23kbps but downloading worth crap

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    1. Re:HELP FOR PETE BT SAKE!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're probably maxing out your connection uploading so you cant make download connections.. Try limiting your uploads with the

      --max_upload_rate

      command

      Set it to about half your upload speed,so like:

      --max_upload_rate 12

      Or be a horrible evil leecher like me and do

      --max_upload_rate 1

      (hey i only get 7.5 gig up a month, cant waste it)

  74. Bit Torr^H^H^H^H Trickle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm through with the fickle Bit Trickle. It rarely works well for the average broadband home user. I got jazzed when it started at around 10 KB/s and was climbing, but then it dropped to 0 KB/s and now it's at 1 KB/s down and 8 KB/s up. I allowed more incoming connections, but that didn't help.

    Feh! Yeah, sure, it's fair and free, but it sure ain't fast. BIT TORRENT IS WAY OVER-HYPED. And I hate when after resuming a download, it has to rescan the whole temporary file first--a BIG PITA when you're downloading a 699MB ISO!!!!!!! Uploading the movie to Usenet would work MUCH better.

    *looks at progress bar* C'mon...When's my "torrent" gonna start???

    /*end rant*/

    1. Re:Bit Torr^H^H^H^H Trickle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The slow allocating has been fixed in the new 3.3 client (it doesnt allocate the complete file anymore, just allocates as it needs)

      As long as a torrent has a lot of seeders it should not get slow.. The problem is everyone that downloaded it, when this story first got posted, exited BT as soon as they were done..

      YOU HAVE TO LEAVE BITTORRENT OPEN, at least long enough to upload as much as you downloaded.. leechers suck

  75. If squatting asian guys are your thing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then yeah, I suppose it would destroy the other fan clip in a homo nerd sort of way.

  76. Return of the BryBry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Return of the BryBry

    Well done and very amusing.

  77. wow!! by gobblez · · Score: 0
    the fight scenes in fanimatrix were better than in the movie! i mean it actually looked believable. the camera angles and such were all good. i was dissapointed however with the fact that they tried so hard to make it exactly like it... sunglasses, no smiling, same clothes, the black guy stuck being an operator, etc...

    i was expecting since its made by fans, other people just like us, that it would be a movie closer to "us". like people in normal clothes watching wheel of fortune in the living room getting the phone call and they are like "wth?!" and the pizza guy comes and turns into a bad guy. then they fight and the phone rings again and he gives them a pep talk over the phone to believe they can win, etc... that woulda been cooler :P

  78. Troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Probably doesn't qualify as a fan work, but Troops is worth checking out.

    1. Re:Troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hows that not qualify? Troops was like the first made-for-the-net starwars fan film.. All the ones after were made mostly because of Troops... and sofar none has compared (not storywise, some fan films have great stories but the acting is horrible and some of the FX.. although there wasnt much FX in troops and the actors were masked, and the quality of the video is low so you cant really see the faces of unmasked actors.. but still its the best =P)

  79. Liked Dante; liked the Operator; but Medusa ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, the story is first-rate. Everybody has a good reason for going where they go and doing what they do.

    Dante is well realized. He belongs to the matrix universe, but he's not just a rip-off of anyone else in the official movies. I like the bit with the cell phone in the bar, and the dialogue in the car at the beginning where Dante puts on a brave show but he knows how much shit he's getting into. And the "free your mind" scene at the end didn't strike me as cheesy, but as something natural for Dante to do.

    The operator has a stock role, but plays it well, bringing operatorly concern and even a sense of humor (when Dante is getting hassled by the Goths).

    I didn't care for Medusa. I didn't see anything but derivative Trinity, and it hurt that she had no speaking lines. Also, her fight scenes with the security guards looked like little set pieces, with bad continuity -- she's walking away from the car, then she's standing in front of flashlights, then she's kicking ass (pretty good work there), and then she's standing there again. Compare with Dante where we can trace every step of his path in the night.

    Still thinking about the Agent. Physically, he looks too young and blond for the role. But you make the movie with the people you have, so that's not so bad. He did a reasonable poker-faced agent job. I would have liked to have seen a little bit of stunt work or wire work during the big foot chase.

  80. Fanimatrix..... by ziggy_zero · · Score: 1

    fight scenes = most.....loud....and annoying.....swishy sounds......EVER

    gaaaaah

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  81. Made in NZ.. Cool Aye by node159 · · Score: 1

    For all you people who don't have a clue, think LOTR's :)

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  82. 1999? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes-- "Duality" has just hit the 'net, and starry-eyed fanboys across the world stare in awe at the quasi-creativity of a particular fan[atic] with too much time on their hands. The NASDAQ is trading above 3000, Y2K is going to kill us all, and capri pants are *ALL* the rage.

    Good times.

  83. Ohh god it hurts by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

    Wow.. it hurts to watch the Fanimatrix.

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  84. Kid Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    One word -- if I had used a hyphen -- Kid Wars ...

  85. Re:For even more speed by EMH_Mark3 · · Score: 1

    ...which you wouldn't if you thought opening those ports would mean faster download speed.

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  86. How do i use the torrents?? by Dan+the+Automater · · Score: 1

    I know I sound like a monkey, but what do I stream this with??

  87. Churchill vs. Rock? by PotatoMan · · Score: 1
    "..the blood sweat and tears of the crew."


    The quote is actually, "blood, sweat, toil, and tears". You've confused politics with music again, fanboy.

  88. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    saw this when G4s were new and exciting. way to keep up on the news /.

  89. Duplicate Article? by slippyd · · Score: 1

    As said, Duality is 2 years old, but are you guys(/girls) sure this isn't a duplicate/repeat article? I can't remember where I first found out about Duality, but I have an inkling that this is a dupe article. I can't find anything by searching... ah, nevermind. Maybe it was in MacAddict (considering it was made on Macs, I think) or something.

  90. I've been looking for this by brusstoc · · Score: 1

    I couldn't remember the name. I've seen this once before. The acting is not so great (i.e. the fighting is somewhat amateurish - but they are after all amateurs). Why are all of the lightsabre wounds the same. It's either an arm, a stab through the midsection, or a slice along the beltline. What's up with that? (OK, ok I do remember that jango-Fett was beheaded)

  91. Batman Fan Flick!!! Just Awesome. by FreedomOfSpea-MMNnnf · · Score: 1

    Forget those others, see this FanFlick of Batman: http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_ deadend/index.shtml Fights with Joker (scary as hell), predator(s) and an Alien. This is not Joel Schumaker's batman!!! This is OUR batman!!!

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  92. Working link to duality by captainstupid · · Score: 1

    Does anyone have a WORKING link to Duality?

    The crewoftwo.com website is completely bonked and is displaying an ad for the hosting provider.

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  93. Everyone check the above link.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geeks with camera's rule. I hope these guy's get jobs with DC Comics or whoever makes Predator Vs Aliens someday...