The GMOs issue is not only about toxicity. One of the main reasons for opposing GMOs is it's irreversibility, given the potential risks that it may carry and all the uncertainty and ignorance we have about the subject. This renders genetic engineering a totally indeterminate technology when we are talking about the release of its products on the environment.
Yes, dihydrogen monoxide is tens of thousands times more toxic than the MON 863 maize. But you are not eating it everyday without being able to choose. Also, even if you campaign against it not now but in 10 years, you will still be in time to erradicate its use and therefore its impacts.
With GMOs the case is different - once you release one in the environment you have absolutely no idea of what interactions it may have with it, how it may mutate, replicate and give different results than those that were achieved on a laboratory or on any field trial. Remember the case of BSE, the mad cow disease? This was something that was completely unknown to science - no virus is there, no strange chemicals or chemical balances are there. Just a protein that appears with a different geometry, therefore resulting in totally different phenotypical effects.
Proteins are produced from genes. By messing with genes we are increasing the potential for this type of effects to happen. The biotech industry will naturally keep lobbying our governments and institutions and undermine what should be their role. This is what happens with both EFSA or the FDA, which continuously stand on the side of big industries and disregard the consumers and farmers concerns. As citizens we must stand against this strong lobbies.
No one is free anymore, especially after 9-11. Civil liberties and rights are being taken off in the name of the fight against a terrorism that is build up by many interested parts...
Billy Jean is not my lover
He's just a boy who claims that I am the one
This are not pictures from the magazine. They are personal photos that he took to give to his lover. Someone said that the photographer asked him to make love to the camera. But... the photographer is his lover!
I think this is another corporate play to improve sales. Now it's the candle truck and speaker bracelets technology. Tomorrow it can be Micro$oft squating all over google search terms.
We must be aware. Capitalism is slowly taking over and destroy our favorite search engine, like it has been doing to so much nice things...
Let's join efforts and destroy capitalism!
The difference between this release and the last stable one (641d) is mostly on bugfixes and installation, with integration with KDE/Gnome (at least with KDE it's finally well integrated:))
As for the mirrors, you should give some time for all of them to sync. Maybe as I am writing, you will find your version in your nearest mirrors. If not try another one. Expect the servers to be overloaded. If you're not able to get it today, try again tomorrow.
And so on, and so on:)
Who wins the desktop war is something which always appears whenever some new from GNOME or KDE appears in/.
Well, so now it's time to say my opinion: no one will win the desktop war. Or at least, I want to think that. I don't Linux/UNIX to become a Microsoft world with one look, one Micro$oft browser, one Micro$oft desktop, one billionaire, one fence with one Gate...
I want to be free, like Linux, I want it open, with lots of things to choose. I like to change between KDE, Gnome, WindowMaker. Right now I'm using Gnome, but I got really excited with the new version of KDE. I'm probably going to switch to it after I download and install it - I like to try new things:)
So, for all of those who only see one good and one bad in the world (computer games, holywood movies and american policies vision of the world...), I hope that you don't succeed.
Gnome, KDE and all the other developers - keep up the good work!
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The GMOs issue is not only about toxicity. One of the main reasons for opposing GMOs is it's irreversibility, given the potential risks that it may carry and all the uncertainty and ignorance we have about the subject. This renders genetic engineering a totally indeterminate technology when we are talking about the release of its products on the environment.
Yes, dihydrogen monoxide is tens of thousands times more toxic than the MON 863 maize. But you are not eating it everyday without being able to choose. Also, even if you campaign against it not now but in 10 years, you will still be in time to erradicate its use and therefore its impacts.
With GMOs the case is different - once you release one in the environment you have absolutely no idea of what interactions it may have with it, how it may mutate, replicate and give different results than those that were achieved on a laboratory or on any field trial. Remember the case of BSE, the mad cow disease? This was something that was completely unknown to science - no virus is there, no strange chemicals or chemical balances are there. Just a protein that appears with a different geometry, therefore resulting in totally different phenotypical effects.
Proteins are produced from genes. By messing with genes we are increasing the potential for this type of effects to happen. The biotech industry will naturally keep lobbying our governments and institutions and undermine what should be their role. This is what happens with both EFSA or the FDA, which continuously stand on the side of big industries and disregard the consumers and farmers concerns. As citizens we must stand against this strong lobbies.
In 2004, servers hosting several indymedia (http://www.indymedia.org) sites were seized by order of the FBI. Some links:p
http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2004/10/660722.ph
http://www.londonfreelance.org/fl/0411imc.html
No one is free anymore, especially after 9-11. Civil liberties and rights are being taken off in the name of the fight against a terrorism that is build up by many interested parts...
Billy Jean is not my lover He's just a boy who claims that I am the one This are not pictures from the magazine. They are personal photos that he took to give to his lover. Someone said that the photographer asked him to make love to the camera. But... the photographer is his lover!
Do I need to add anything to the subject?
I think this is another corporate play to improve sales. Now it's the candle truck and speaker bracelets technology. Tomorrow it can be Micro$oft squating all over google search terms. We must be aware. Capitalism is slowly taking over and destroy our favorite search engine, like it has been doing to so much nice things... Let's join efforts and destroy capitalism!
The difference between this release and the last stable one (641d) is mostly on bugfixes and installation, with integration with KDE/Gnome (at least with KDE it's finally well integrated :))
As for the mirrors, you should give some time for all of them to sync. Maybe as I am writing, you will find your version in your nearest mirrors. If not try another one. Expect the servers to be overloaded. If you're not able to get it today, try again tomorrow.
And so on, and so on :)
Who wins the desktop war is something which always appears whenever some new from GNOME or KDE appears in /.
Well, so now it's time to say my opinion: no one will win the desktop war. Or at least, I want to think that. I don't Linux/UNIX to become a Microsoft world with one look, one Micro$oft browser, one Micro$oft desktop, one billionaire, one fence with one Gate...
I want to be free, like Linux, I want it open, with lots of things to choose. I like to change between KDE, Gnome, WindowMaker. Right now I'm using Gnome, but I got really excited with the new version of KDE. I'm probably going to switch to it after I download and install it - I like to try new things :)
So, for all of those who only see one good and one bad in the world (computer games, holywood movies and american policies vision of the world...), I hope that you don't succeed.
Gnome, KDE and all the other developers - keep up the good work!
I think this is on top priorities to be implemented. Maybe it will even be available on version 1.0?